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@Surprise+Me Hey, follow me stay inside Hutan. Tak Lak Motorbike racing boom boom boom.....hahahahahahahahahahahaha..........
Sep 24, 9:29 PM
Good location to invest after check on Google Map. How to register as early bird buyer?
Sep 24, 9:16 PM
next to highway hahaha...... Service apartment hahaha...... Motorbike racing boom boom boom.......hahahahaha.......
Sep 24, 10:51 AM
@tahusamatahu Sorry typo - Many high-rises are definitely NOT suitable...
Sep 21, 10:04 AM
Many high-rises are definitely suitable for home-stay, but the authority simply turned a blind eye or as in Malaysian term - Closed one eye !
Sep 21, 10:03 AM
@Penangite I think more issue for homestay airbnb in Queens waterfront Q1&Q2 later. Lol.. Chapalang liau..
Sep 20, 1:36 PM
@Penangite Most of the netizen's quality
Sep 20, 8:48 AM
Pandai : No need care the traffic la. Just do more project earn more money. Then cabut. Why bother about the congestion? your reply is...
Sep 20, 8:43 AM
@Pandai No need worry la. Q3 is hotel nia. Q4 super condo super low dense. Queens sport only 1. Balance all is football field &...
Sep 19, 6:00 PM
No need care the traffic la. Just do more project earn more money. Then cabut. Why bother about the congestion?
Sep 19, 3:18 PM
Penangite : A quick question, There’s no dispersion nor diversification of any access/routes in and out to these area. With the additional population from Q1,...
Sep 19, 2:44 PM
A quick question, There's no dispersion nor diversification of any access/routes in and out to these area. With the additional population from Q1, Q2, Q3...
Sep 19, 9:30 AM
The date has been changed to 7-9 October
Sep 20, 6:33 PM
May I know that day show 30sept -2 October still have fair ? Or change already
Sep 20, 3:05 PM
I thought 30th September ~ 2nd October???
Sep 20, 2:51 PM
JunCW : @The Rise Collection Yeah.. I think all the local developer is full of shit. Well, I don’t think anything can stop The Stone...
Sep 20, 9:18 AM
@The Rise Collection Yeah.. I think all the local developer is full of shit. Well, I don't think anything can stop The Stone becoming Bangla...
Sep 20, 8:20 AM
@JunCW The Rise Collection 400k house is the worst. Presented in flyer like super good but hau siao finishing all. Worst apartment ever.. The stone...
Sep 19, 6:03 PM
@CC Ya sorry, it's a bit sensitive to discuss here. All I can say is, it is nothing like what was presented. If it's on...
Sep 19, 3:48 PM
@JunCW No, i'm not. I'm currently shopping around for properties around Penang and want to be informed. If the issues are not convenient to share...
Sep 19, 3:31 PM
@CC are you owner?
Sep 19, 3:17 PM
@JunCW can you explain more about the issues here? Interested to know
Sep 19, 2:50 PM
Any owners here? Can we meet up together and form a group to sue the developer? By far the worst project in the entire Penang...
Sep 19, 2:42 PM
After Aspen Glove, sold land to Kerjaya and warning by SGX, Aspen's financial still sound to continue develop new project? Could it be risky to...
Sep 19, 8:43 PM
@hk By now you should already be able to answer that yourself. Since you already know some bad news from some users, I assume you...
Sep 19, 1:35 PM
May I know why the same TPPT developer project =Emerald residence selling rate so low? What is the reason? Heard some bad news from some...
Sep 19, 12:44 PM
Anyone have the management number?
Aug 17, 2:11 PM
Update, TIME internet is now available in Platinum 3
Aug 12, 10:58 AM
this project go to hell already, mah sing just sold this land if im not wrong. this area quite sensitive for development. even the new...
Sep 19, 1:25 PM
The unit that facing main road is 100% facing sunset. start noon until night the master bedroom, bedroom 2 and living it pretty hot. pro...
Sep 18, 5:40 PM
Have the corridor water pouring issue fixed? I heard developer actually wanted to fix it by installing shade/shield. Can any owner confirm if this had...
Sep 18, 9:33 AM
@xoxo better consider other condos as this one seemingly has a lot of problems as you may refer to those comments over here
Sep 17, 8:29 PM
well done Penang Property Talk
Sep 16, 7:10 PM
Who to blame? Government anyhow approve those irresponsible developer who don’t deliver as promised. And overpriced property at lousy location. Expect buyer to be dumb...
Sep 15, 10:51 PM
hi,what's the project status? when is the completion date?
Sep 15, 3:57 PM
@SARAH Tak ada kosong. this is under lpnpp affordable home.
Sep 15, 3:54 PM
MASIH ADA UNIT YANG KOSONG?
Aug 01, 3:29 PM
any unit for rent pls email stevanchai@yahoo.com
Sep 14, 2:57 PM
any owner wanted to sell ( No agent plz ) pls text me .. 1300sgft budget rm550-580k email : mydmp11@gmail.com
Sep 14, 9:13 AM
Any owner wanted to rent out your unit? email stevanchai@yahoo.com
Sep 12, 11:03 AM
@ewen i also want to know ,why take so long time ,still don't have strata title, any person can answer ? IDEAL Property ? MELMAX...
Aug 13, 2:27 PM
@smallfish That's why The Zen is best development in Penang or Asia pacific.
Sep 14, 8:47 AM
Aahhhh.....Mah Sing is getting smart now, knowing the real money is in affordable homes, and not luxury homes. Luxury homes are only useful for vanity,...
Sep 14, 8:16 AM
Yes, there is surely another rate increase in Dec, and more to come.
Sep 13, 10:44 AM
wah very nice!! This is good news for old people like me who rely on fixD interest for living expenses. For those who keep holding...
Sep 09, 3:15 PM
HOW TO APPLY ON THIS ? HAVE ANY CONTACT NUMBER ?
Sep 13, 10:20 AM
Selective policing is the norm in our country unless the citizen themselves make it clear it is unacceptable. Mdm J Lim, I hope you will...
Sep 13, 9:41 AM
@Mdm J LIm Really? Is that Tanjung Villa in Tanjung Tokong near Han Ming school? Did you lodge an online complaint or written? Can take...
Sep 12, 9:05 AM
My personal opinion and on-going experience : I think it's a second rate farce by MBPP to muffle up complaints . It is selective demolition...
Sep 11, 10:27 PM
Short term rentals should preferably be 1 year or minimum 6 months. 6 months is open to abuse. But it is also up to the...
Sep 13, 9:13 AM
PLEASE no homestays....really unfair to residents. Residents pay for facilities and upkeep of facilities - imagine 10 people jumping into the pool dressed! Yes -...
Sep 12, 2:15 PM
Imagine seeing different people just beside my unit almost every weekend and sometimes in group. Lost my belongings and shoes as well after "neighbours" left...
Jul 29, 4:32 PM
bengkali roti and roti canai are the the same family ?
Jul 29, 12:03 PM
Please ban airbnb if you cannot regulate it at all, a nuisance and menace to society
Jul 28, 11:10 PM
This kind of thing can drag until January 2023. Somemore think themselves very accomplished. Slow like tortoise, keeping bullet for upcoming election
Jul 28, 9:58 PM
Hi, I'm interested to buy this property, can i have more details or comments about this property? The buyer can you please share the package...
Sep 12, 10:51 PM
I'm interested for this project, any more details or comments to share about it? Those buyers can please share the packages you get it, any...
Sep 12, 2:33 PM
pending project
Sep 12, 4:06 PM
Hello Owners, i am looking for a 1598 sq feet unit. basic unit ya.. Kindly message me if anyone wants to let go of their...
Sep 11, 11:03 AM
Hi I’m looking for rent hall for wedding may I know more details about it.Thank You
Sep 09, 2:40 PM
If you wish to buy OSK/PJD project , think again. There are some condos in harbour place yet to receive the individual strata title now...
Sep 08, 11:20 PM
PM
Aug 23, 5:50 PM
千山再现海外缘 万水重逢槟岛情
Sep 08, 3:09 PM
This is a rare opportunity for the state gov to develop PG as a favoured property investment destination in SEA. Pls CKY, don't screw it...
Sep 05, 9:19 AM
When there is no politiking or less politiking in a state, it tends to flourish.
Sep 03, 3:37 PM
Looking good. When is the estimated completion bate?
Sep 08, 10:21 AM
any agent for this project?
Sep 07, 9:56 AM
Salary 5k to 10k should buy affordable home (300k-500k), in order to maintain reasonable lifestyle. 500k to 700k a bit overstretch. One shouldn't just look...
Sep 06, 4:29 PM
@Rachel @nurul Don't be foolish here. PM DM or CM also useless. 3 years back already finished. Fully sold in 1 week.
Aug 31, 1:41 PM
how to apply? really interested
Aug 31, 9:51 AM
@linlin Welcome to airbnb. This service apartment highly potential can be holiday home & airbnb. 1 carpark unit will be airbnb business for sure. Location...
Aug 31, 8:38 AM
interested , pls pm or email detail. thanks
Aug 30, 4:01 PM
when will they ever build the cantilevered road, supposed to be planned and all
Aug 29, 1:03 PM
Obviously, bad road there kills everything.
Aug 28, 2:41 PM
Very inconvenient to go through that narrow and winding coastal road makes it somehow an unpopular "tourist belt".
Aug 27, 8:52 AM
@JO Siok la kawan.. GIC gong xi fa chai. Mereka blh bagi tile pilih lagi mana package yg nak ambil A &B. Pilih sampai akhir...
Aug 29, 11:34 AM
Agreed! Anyhow, I will avoid all this developer's projects & the agency too. Honestly, feel like both throw ball to each other. It so suspicious...
Aug 28, 6:26 PM
@SK Technically, the signed SPA needs to be stamped within 30 days, KPKT also confirmed this. U signed in March and until August 2022 also...
Aug 24, 10:50 AM
Tim : SF : @Tim We all know that year 2020 was soft launch but Feb 2022 already officially launch with price increase adjustment, I...
Aug 23, 2:04 PM
Is the project confirmed and launched?
Aug 27, 10:34 PM
Oversupply of luxurious overpriced project and undersupply of affordable homes. Simple.
Aug 26, 1:57 PM
williamyl : @jack you can go to their sales office to view. All in the plan how the road plan and flyover direct to PICC...
Aug 26, 12:41 PM
Potato so cheap : @ThePotato Diam diam la you. Here poo that poo. Can call poo-tato haha
Aug 24, 9:50 AM
@ThePotato Diam diam la you. Here poo that poo.
Aug 23, 12:14 PM
The JIZZ
Aug 22, 5:22 PM
Then I wish them success to implement the plan. Hopefully the plan can be realized with PG state gov and MBPP to solve the traffic...
Aug 22, 3:40 PM
@jack you can go to their sales office to view. All in the plan how the road plan and flyover direct to PICC etc. Drop...
Aug 22, 2:55 PM
they have a plan already bro.... hunza collaborate, i think you can see in their website, if im not wrong, there will underpass and flyovers...
Aug 18, 1:10 PM
Hope they put some considerations to the road and traffic planning. Bayan Baru already has the worst and most ridiculous traffic rules in Penang
Aug 18, 10:51 AM
hahaha...
Aug 18, 2:04 AM
I’m interested in this project. A serious buyer here, please contact me
Aug 23, 5:11 PM
im interested pls pm me
Jul 21, 7:57 PM
Preparing for the massive launch of 5G ! Look promising enough !
Aug 19, 5:54 PM
A hot spot now, getting popular there !
Aug 18, 8:38 AM
HAI MACAM MANA NAK APPLY RUMAH K PARK INI.
Aug 17, 6:44 AM
@diana Hi can i know how to apply dor this house
Aug 15, 2:19 PM
PM
Jul 27, 3:01 PM
hi all, I’m currently looking to get a unit in Middleton with these criteria: 1) Block B 2) Middle floor (10 – 20) floor 3)...
Aug 15, 1:31 PM
Nice place and environment
Aug 13, 6:40 AM
Is Penang going to a high level income category to match up the high end developments? Excerpt - Nanyang Press 12/8/22 （吉隆坡11日讯）根据国际货币基金（IMF）数据显示，若以人均国内生产总值（GDP per capita）来计算，邻国新加坡荣登2022年全球第二个最富有国家，而大马则排在- 第58位。...
Aug 12, 10:58 AM
maybe quaywest sold out?
Aug 11, 8:19 AM
Where's QuayWest? Got a lot of comments for this property this year
Aug 02, 4:57 PM
It's high time to move up the value chain with more value-added plus local trained talents.
Aug 10, 1:11 PM
Tah wah service is slow and bad, many people complain
Aug 10, 10:31 AM
Bad experience from the Tah Wah group staff... We was try to get house plan from them and keep delay us say with feedback until...
Aug 09, 1:02 PM
hintu : project name misleading people…actual location show in google is tasek gelugor…. Don't forget seberang prai is also Penang, that area is also called...
Aug 09, 11:24 PM
project name misleading people...actual location show in google is tasek gelugor....
Aug 09, 5:47 PM
when this project will be launch..
Aug 02, 1:58 PM
@Kane IJM is the best...
Aug 09, 8:27 AM
so far all the site progress look the same. like no progress... but maybe yes, they are focusing a lot on the protective infrastructure...
Aug 09, 8:24 AM
The Highland Towers in making with so much of wall retention built. The mountain god will not be happy.
Aug 08, 2:36 PM
@Jack Jack & Jill, if you are so mature, care to advice how to go about to improve all these defects before warranty period ?...
Aug 09, 7:46 AM
@Jack Jack, do you mind to list down in details the procedure of legal actions required? Like should go to which tribunal? Any form required...
Aug 08, 2:59 PM
Guys Rilex & Chillex
Aug 06, 1:48 AM
@Susan I can see many buyers in Amarene are immature. The way they acted & responded to problem just purely emotional. Nobody will care if...
Aug 05, 9:49 PM
And guys! The tangki pipe bursting again , we are now experiencing another "downpour"! Belum sampai 24 jams it reoccuring and tons of water are...
Aug 05, 5:45 PM
@Jack I want everyone know about this, i knew i couldnt sell my unit out if get bad reputation on amarene, but at least i...
Aug 05, 5:36 PM
@The Zen Development What is your motif then? You are The Zen Samseng KIA? Go back build your Condom so slow many year already.
Aug 05, 1:16 PM
@The Zen Development Logically thinking those owner who bought their condo should know how to value their property. This is not a right forum to...
Aug 05, 1:13 PM
@The Zen Development The Zen development is the best in Asia pacific. Later we will viral once completed. Interested to see any ah tu ah...
Aug 05, 1:12 PM
@Jack What's ur motive then? U r the IDEAL SAMSENG?
Aug 05, 12:24 PM
Poolview : @WaitView Research is not helpful but need take action. Lol. No action is equally to reading a book like a boy. Another bollywood...
Aug 08, 2:02 PM
@WaitView Research is not helpful but need take action. Lol. No action is equally to reading a book like a boy.
Aug 08, 11:08 AM
@WaitView Ghost alot. 600k out of your affordability. Research is not helpful but need take action. Lol.
Aug 08, 11:07 AM
@WaitView Yes, I’ve invested too much time on this post. That’s all, I’ll continue my market research. Hopefully you can really “see” everyone laughing at...
Aug 08, 8:33 AM
@WaitView Talk now is useless. Price already set. We see how's growing price future. I just see everyone laughing at you. LOL.. Shocking on the...
Aug 08, 8:28 AM
how can i apply this
Aug 05, 10:55 AM
how can i apply？Still available？
Jul 23, 12:20 PM
@NOR AZWANI BINTI MD NOOR So? You expect developer to call you now? XD
Aug 04, 6:47 PM
I am interested with this project.
Aug 04, 6:16 PM
Malayisan people like to splurge on expensive new car but complain about house price being unaffordable...LOL
Aug 04, 9:30 AM
请问我需要去哪里申请？
Aug 03, 8:38 AM
Any more progress photos?
Aug 01, 10:36 AM
@cindy woo 20mil is a very good deal even infuture block or unblocked. However your comment.. This is a very serious humiliating. Even you angry...
Jul 31, 5:38 PM
@cindy woo I believe you & him no different as you asking people faster sell their unit before lelong. And now you said people out...
Jul 30, 10:24 PM
@cindy woo Hohoho.. I feel very proud to be a Quaywest owner because this agent with 200million club come to challenge & worry us about...
Jul 30, 10:21 PM
@KumbarPavilion This is Rm200mil range club is out of your affordability, not in your life time you will afford. go back to hold tight your...
Jul 30, 6:52 PM
@cindy woo Here you go again Agent. From Queensbay to Gurney. Goreng Goreng owner & try to ask them sell faster & lelong this &...
Jul 30, 5:01 PM
so this is a hoax, 2 of the owners said they will are not selling after knowing the land can sell RM200mil. Paul Lim scam...
Jul 30, 4:41 PM
@Oh nice Marriott residence is a luxury project not skinny by Greenery BSG. Hotel/Service suites & Residence under 1 package. One of the best development...
Jul 27, 10:21 PM
Oh nice : if other developer can build 29 storey condominium on 2 bungalow lot , everything is possible, look how skinny the marriott residence...
Jul 27, 4:00 PM
vicky : @Oh nice No no, it’s not a steal at all. It is actually a very narrow strip of land, you can’t do major...
Jul 27, 3:58 PM
if other developer can build 29 storey condominium on 2 bungalow lot , everything is possible, look how skinny the marriott residence is...LOL
Jul 27, 12:51 PM
ya just like an elevator, when it breaks down, you're stuck inside. Just like what happened that day, my car got stuck inside for 4...
Jul 30, 2:34 PM
Hi, Is it still avail? only Penang registered ic can apply?
Jul 30, 12:40 PM
another foreign workers heaven in making
Jul 29, 8:28 AM
@QY No news as over supply in this area. Nobody really want to stay..
Jul 29, 4:32 AM
Any news about this project??
Jul 28, 10:57 PM
FaithBian : A lot of nonsense going on. Fix the basic necessities first, idiot. A lot of project awaiting APDL approval. You mean fix the...
Jul 28, 11:09 AM
A lot of nonsense going on. Fix the basic necessities first, idiot. A lot of project awaiting APDL approval.
Jul 28, 10:56 AM
@cindy woo Come with the largest aquarium, tallest building, deepest underground carpark, longest skybridge at KSD also
Jul 28, 10:41 AM
Macinai : @jack No way. Even GOD also couldn’t help as this is nature of Karpal singh drive. RIP your mind. All development fix. No...
Jul 28, 9:20 AM
@jack No way. Even GOD also couldn't help as this is nature of Karpal singh drive. RIP your mind. All development fix. No point to...
Jul 27, 12:25 PM
Macinai : @kaygayn What are you talking about? How to improve those road in Karpal singh? No way to improve already as all land fully...
Jul 27, 11:27 AM
@kaygayn What are you talking about? How to improve those road in Karpal singh? No way to improve already as all land fully developed. And...
Jul 26, 7:12 PM
@Git Hi @kaygayn, do you still want to buy? I have 1 unit
Jul 26, 4:56 PM
@Hush It is indeed stupid that the people who complains about complaints, are making the complaints themselves. The hypocrisy stems so much deeper than just...
Jul 27, 4:33 PM
cindy woo : Hush : Those that oppose probably have never experience the traffic during peak hour. Then expect the gov to do something about...
Jul 27, 4:21 PM
not talking about you guys, but generally speaking, there are a percentage that does. It stupid to think that, they want the state to progress...
Jul 25, 2:59 PM
Hush : Those that oppose probably have never experience the traffic during peak hour. Then expect the gov to do something about the traffic. Mass...
Jul 25, 2:52 PM
Those that oppose probably have never experience the traffic during peak hour. Then expect the gov to do something about the traffic. Mass transport in...
Jul 25, 2:50 PM
Oh nice : @ex-Penangites Penang not ready for LRT, we do not have enough ridership, after taking into account population growth, to justify it. Can’t...
Jul 24, 5:40 PM
You think Wee Ka Siong's team will give you LRT?You hope lar.He didn't even want to give approval to expand the airport.
Jul 22, 10:10 PM
You are comparing ferry, which transport people in and out of the island, to a transportation which is supposed to regulate the traffic internally? Now...
Jul 22, 2:11 PM
@ex-Penangites Penang not ready for LRT, we do not have enough ridership, after taking into account population growth, to justify it. Can't even keep the...
Jul 22, 12:46 PM
Pre-qualification, Post Pre-qualification, quarter qualification, Post-quarter qualification, Semi Quarter qualification, Post Semi-Quarter qualification, Quarter final qualification, Post Quarter Final qualification, Semi Final Qualification, Post Semi...
Jul 22, 11:10 AM
@KJ This is strata title living & we have law to deal with this scenario. Cash is not king. And also the person look down...
Jul 26, 7:08 PM
@jack some said Asia and Pacific
Jul 26, 5:31 PM
House bought by them by cash. They didn't borrow your money to buy this house. Rent to who, none of your business. By law, by...
Jul 26, 1:39 PM
@cindy woo I believe owner intention is to ensure no bulk rented by a company for foreigners. That's all. This should bring up in JMC...
Jul 26, 12:17 PM
Ju : Guys..what is happening for our condo? I saw quite many of unit & bangla/foreigner rented in our condo. Can someone please confirm &...
Jul 26, 11:39 AM
Ju : Guys..what is happening for our condo? I saw quite many of unit & bangla/foreigner rented in our condo. Can someone please confirm &...
Jul 26, 11:37 AM
Ju : @The Zen Development You totally don’t understand what is discrimination. Just wanna annoy you only, wait till he/she mentions The zen6/9 is the...
Jul 26, 9:59 AM
@Ju Discrimination
Jul 26, 9:22 AM
@The Zen Development You totally don't understand what is discrimination.
Jul 26, 8:27 AM
@Ju Discrimination
Jul 25, 11:10 PM
Buy 2 banglo lot demolish and build 198 units condo.. fuiyoooo..
Jul 26, 3:35 PM
This is Malaysia's developer speed. Get used to it.
Jul 26, 2:04 PM
@jack Later like Penang LRT took forever to complete
Jul 26, 11:05 AM
WoofWharf : It’s been 6 years, this project still not yet complete? zzz… just a small piece land also took so long, Andaman Island then...
Jul 26, 9:56 AM
It's been 6 years, this project still not yet complete? zzz... just a small piece land also took so long, Andaman Island then need another...
Jul 25, 4:51 PM
@CC Me simply boom eh
Jul 25, 2:29 PM
@The Zen Development opsss.. coz not pandai boom macam u ma XD
Jul 25, 9:47 AM
@CC I thought you pandai. Make me laugh.. Simply shoot only. All wrong. You know nothing. Why not guess Balik Pulau. XD.
Jul 23, 10:42 PM
@The Zen Development The Light City, abo Andaman Island then XD
Jul 23, 4:52 PM
@CC Penang world city? OMG. You totally don't know anything. It's in Island. But not PWC.
Jul 23, 4:05 PM
@The Zen Development Pavillion Mall? Build at Penang World City ah? Rumors only gut XD
Jul 23, 3:52 PM
@Resmond So sad.. then hopefully they will build a huge carpark for them to sembahyang la :')
Jul 23, 4:27 PM
@YYYYY Unfortunately it will be build regardless of any plan changed. It's due to compensation for owner land. However it could be further infront to...
Jul 23, 4:08 PM
@YYYYY The problem now is not about cancelling. This floating mosque is must for compensation for owner land infront of Quaywest. It won't cancel but...
Jul 23, 8:15 AM
@Resmond Then hopefully the floating mosque in original masterplan also cancelled la =X Just stay nearby, can't imagine the crowd and illegal parking around can...
Jul 22, 10:36 AM
@YYYYY No money & agreement between both developer broke. And PWC land slowly selling piece by piece to others like rojak. Pwc project totally out...
Jul 21, 9:49 PM
Why project cancelled? PWC masterplan gone, those who bought TBR hoping the success of PWC in deep shit now!
Jul 21, 6:32 PM
@Alibaba Thank you for your feedback, @Alibaba. Absolutely agree with you on Andaman Island.
Jul 23, 1:52 PM
Msia cannot be dead sri lankan style lah don't be an idiot! We have crude oil, we have a strong e&e manufacturing industry for exports,...
Jul 23, 1:33 PM
Anyhow, Malaysia is actually miring in the middle-income trap, E&E included. That's why we are being named as a "rampant" talent-exporting country in this region...
Jul 23, 11:34 AM
@jack another virus strike mean these island will be dead Sri Lankan style.....glad that Penang would not be in the running for the top ten...
Jul 22, 8:44 AM
dino : what? Penang even behind Langkawi? Aiyo, penang really going reverse gear in the last 10 years we need wee ka siong to save...
Jul 21, 7:35 PM
dino : what? Penang even behind Langkawi? Aiyo, penang really going reverse gear in the last 10 years Chill bro, the other islands mentioned are...
Jul 21, 3:32 PM
what? Penang even behind Langkawi? Aiyo, penang really going reverse gear in the last 10 years
Jul 21, 1:43 PM
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