Bayu Villas @ Desa Titi Panjang

Bayu Villas @ Desa Titi Panjang is located within the established township of Bukit Minyak, Penang. This residential property development comprises 100 units of 2-storey semi-detached houses. Strategically located with easy access to Bukit Minyak and Perai Industrial Area. A mere minutes drive to Juru Autocity and Penang bridge

Property Project : Bayu Villas, Desa Titi Panjang
Location : Bukit Tengah, Penang
Property Type : 2-Storey Semi-Detached
Tenure : Freehold
Built-up Area: 2,559 sq.ft.
Land Area: 35′ x 80′
Total Units : 100
Developer : TPPT Sdn. Bhd.
Contact No.: 04-540 2898 / 012-487 8594
Indicative Price: RM467,000 onwards

Contributed by @eenngg (04/12/2011)

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    June 8th, 2011 at 07:49 | #1

    I think the location is strategic. But it would be better if this is planned without the townhouse in between.

    Anyway, they are having sales launch this weekend.

  2. T
    June 11th, 2011 at 22:15 | #2

    Just check out the location today, it is quite strategic. A few fall back i have now is
    1. I don’t prefer road higher than house. (jalan bukit tengah).
    2. Currently only have one access, it is kind of consider one way. you can only go out heading to Alma or simpang empat. If you want to go to Island, you need to make a u-turn. If you are coming from simpang empat, you can only make ilegal turn to the site.
    3. Phase 1 is actually at behind of townhouse and a low cost Pangsapuri is coming up.
    4.Most of the good spot already book by people. (my preference only, it may not be the same for you.

    Beside than that, the height and size is more than enough. Price is consider cheap with RM 30 psf.

  3. L
    June 12th, 2011 at 02:28 | #3

    how u calculate to get RM30 psf?

  4. T
    June 12th, 2011 at 07:33 | #4

    the RM 30psf is the extra land you pay for corner.

  5. L
    June 12th, 2011 at 13:13 | #5

    oic, so u finally booked for the bayu villas ?
    i have booked a 2ST at tropicale residency, will sign the S&P this month.

  6. Max
    June 12th, 2011 at 23:10 | #6

    Well…I went today.
    T, you’ve got the point here. The entrance or exit to the area is a big big problem.

  7. T
    June 12th, 2011 at 23:38 | #7

    no, i didn’t book this property, but i like the design. The room is spacious and due to it’s size is rectangle instead of square, it help a lot in term of design and arrangement. 23.5X50 leaving extra land at the side of 11.5X80. Although car park just 21 feets but the big land beside compensate everything. The design layout overall is quite ok plus now a day it is very hard to find RM 30psf in BM.

    i remember the sales agent told me the best case is they can put yellow box in front of the entrance but no traffic light and the next one to Alma is too close. There is possibility of other entrance but you will need to wait for other project. From past experience, don’t put high hope for something which cannot control by you developer. So i didn’t put my money for this project.

  8. T
    June 13th, 2011 at 09:44 | #8

    Anybody can comment who is the developer who purchase the land next to this project?

    June 13th, 2011 at 12:12 | #9

    Hi T, I believed the land next to this project is part of sewerage treatment plant. I don’t think anyone will develop houses next to the plant :).

    If you are referring to the piece of land sit in between Desa titi panjang and BM permai, those are bumiputra land. Not sure if those are bumi reserved, but there is no development plan submitted so far.

  10. stef
    June 13th, 2011 at 13:13 | #10

    it is confirmed the sewerage plant will be there?

    June 13th, 2011 at 13:25 | #11

    The sewerage plant is already there. If you view from google map, it is about 200 meters away from this project. I don’t think there will be anymore project between the sewerage plant and the desa titi panjang.

    If you are concerned, better choose those units nearer to the main road instead of those units behind the townhouse :)

  12. stef
    June 13th, 2011 at 22:32 | #12

    200m is very near! i googled but cannot find it :(
    asked developer, was told it is “seperated” by river, true? but dunno which river lar … when asked the land next to me it , was told dunno …

  13. stef
    June 13th, 2011 at 22:39 | #13

    200m is very near! i googled but cannot find it
    asked developer, was told it is “seperated” by river, true? but dunno which river lar … when asked the land next to it , was told dunno

    June 14th, 2011 at 00:17 | #14

    Try http://www.wikimapia.org and then search for “Juru Sewerage”.

  15. stef
    June 14th, 2011 at 08:15 | #15

    Thanks Ken. Found it. I supposed the 3 “red things” are the townhouse? In front of townhouse is phase II.

    June 14th, 2011 at 10:20 | #16

    Yes. They are building the semi-D around the townhouse. So you may want to choose the front one which is nearer to the main road. The back one are nearer to the sewerage plant.

  17. B
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:32 | #17

    Can i know which houses (specifically house number) that are near to main road rather than those near townhouses ? thanks

  18. T
    June 14th, 2011 at 12:42 | #18

    Phase 2 will be near to main road.

  19. M
    June 14th, 2011 at 14:15 | #19

    Any locals can comment whether area flood before as near river?
    Also if traffic condition & air quality as in light industrial area?
    Went to launch last weekend. Love the layout & size.. concern only above.
    Any other semi-d projects comparable to this? Thanks

  20. s
    June 16th, 2011 at 19:19 | #20

    place booking for corner which is first row next to river..
    my fren stay there for almost 3 year but no major flood even certain area in BM is flooding..
    sewerage is not a concern even take example Taman bagan and Taman Inderwasih whcih the price is booming even sewerage just opposite them
    main concern is just the main entrance…
    hope side land can develop and eventully will have new road and more convinient to ppl in desa titi panjang

  21. T
    June 16th, 2011 at 22:10 | #21

    S, did you book last week or earlier…..

  22. S
    June 16th, 2011 at 23:40 | #22

    During launch.. So wat u think about this house I book. Mind to share ur comment cos this is my first property

  23. Max
    June 17th, 2011 at 01:06 | #23

    @ S,
    congratz on your first property.
    I went to the showhouse during launch last week.
    The house is nice and spacious.
    The only problem i can think of, is the entrance (from ex-Krico direction) and exit (heading to autocity direction).
    The sales person did tell me honestly that, the government didn’t approve traffic lights in the junction due to the short distance of another traffic lights around the area.

  24. M
    June 17th, 2011 at 11:36 | #24

    I agree this location is strategic as nearer to Autocity exit but exit/entrance may be problem. Good to hear no flood problem. Then house nearer river is much nicer as see greeneries instead of other houses/roads or existing townhouse only.

  25. s
    June 18th, 2011 at 15:47 | #25

    i dun think is goverment problem..
    as you can at inderawasih there…the traffic light there are so near and no problem at all..
    if developer agree to sponsor to build i dun think it is a problem..
    just hope 1 day there is new exit/entrance to this area…

  26. M
    June 23rd, 2011 at 15:40 | #26

    Is take up good for the project as been 2 weeks since launch? Any extra info?

  27. C
    June 24th, 2011 at 21:22 | #27

    I’m managed to book 1 unit over there now pending loan approval…

  28. Sam
    June 26th, 2011 at 21:25 | #28

    i just visit the site today. Like the spacious built area & small land behind kitchen.
    Whoever had booked the unit, can you share the package offred by developer? such as S&P wave? lawyer fees? bank fees?

  29. Deal
    June 27th, 2011 at 12:25 | #29

    i think the location of the project is good as the future Carrefour is just opposite & it is not far from autocity. Comparing the price with other similar BM projects such as BSG, Airmas etc which are over 500K, it can be consider quite cheap.

  30. M
    June 27th, 2011 at 15:17 | #30

    Yeah.. location is good as I timed <1/2 hr from FTZ smooth traffic as before Bkt Minyak bottleneck. I also don't mind the oxidation pond as didn't smell a thing. Worry now is if it ever flood as it's envelop by Juru river. What if water pump spoils for those buying right next to river? The other is how to get back to the housing area back from Carrefour or Tesco side as now have to do illegal turn?

  31. Bosco
    June 27th, 2011 at 15:59 | #31

    Hi Sam, I have booked a unit last Sat. Developer covers legal S&P only, buyer need to cover legal for loan. Good thing is, TPPT is “anak syarikat” Bank Negara, and their aim is to provide “affordable” homes, maybe that’s why its a little cheaper than other nearby projects. Also, upon signing S&P, need not pay 10% immediately, pay after 60 days.
    But, I was informed that the next phase will be 5-10% more expensive. Many people came to the Show Unit last Sat, many units are gone too!

  32. Sam
    June 27th, 2011 at 21:43 | #32

    Hi Bosco, which unit you had booked? I was told the same too when asked about phase 2 which is nearer to main road.
    Currently still considering which is better, nearer to river which is better view or more to inland because worry of flood but nearer to low cost pangsapuri ???
    Some sharing who concern on the entrance problem, if not mistaken to get back to Bayu Villas from carefour, we can make a U-turn at the traffic light infront of Ceva warehouse. But not sure if it is illegal or not…maybe can check it out….

  33. Bosco
    June 28th, 2011 at 12:37 | #33

    I also had much considerations before placing my booking. I prefer to face a “taman”, but the units in Lorong Titi Panjang 1 are all gone. I don’t mind the flat so much, as the design looks ok. Only 3-storeys and 60 units anyway. I book the other smaller “taman”, and also facing the river. As for view, developer will build a wall along the river (tembok), thus I believe not much view. But at least, I hope, can prevent flood, if any.
    I’m also unsure if the U-turn is illegal, I have been turning there a lot. JKR has plans for the entrance, but developer unsure what plans. JKR is waiting for the project to be completed, then implement the plan. Maybe they want to see the condition of the traffic first, then do something, not sure

  34. Sam
    June 28th, 2011 at 17:05 | #34

    I just passby Ceva warehouse today, didn’t see there is “No U-turn” or “U-Turn” signboard there…worst case make a u-turn under the fly-over…. just drive another 200m lor…..:>
    now my main concern whether if it will flood??!! coz I plan to buy for my own stay….

  35. M
    June 30th, 2011 at 16:21 | #35

    Looks like there’s more interest in this than expected:) Bosco, I didn’t know about the wall (low or tall) along river(north or west side).. If low ok lessen flood worry but still got “river” nature view.. Same worries as Sam on what if flood else it’s the best semi-D deal now.

  36. Bosco
    June 30th, 2011 at 17:52 | #36

    Hi all. The developer said that the area is not flood-prone. Also, the townhouse has not experienced flood before.

    I have checked on Sg. Juru and found the following article:(http://www.sungaijuru.com/v2/tag/juru-river-pollution/). Long article, just “search” for the word “flood”. Seems like flood is more prone at Sg. Rambai area. There is also another article on this (http://www.sungaijuru.com/v2/info-on-sungai-juru/) which suggested that flood-prone areas are near Taman Makok & Taman Desa Damai. On wikimapia, those areas are far from here (between Bandar Perda & old BM town), with the river much narrower in width and maybe more easily to flood. Thus, this areas is hopefully safe. Well, just my 2-cents worth of opinion.

    Not sure how tall is the wall. Just know that it will be 55 ft away from the house. Haha, not sure if there is a “view” though :)

  37. Sam
    July 1st, 2011 at 11:13 | #37

    do some local survey & I was told a fren’s fren house behind Krico “sink” (car porch area), so the owner has to spend $$ to rebuild it. And his contractor told him that the riverside is ‘tanah paya” so the risk is there. Need to do more survey~~~~
    anyone can share what is your finding?

  38. Deal
    July 1st, 2011 at 15:04 | #38

    hi Bosco
    agree with your analysis, i’ve asked the local folks staying at the townhouse if that area ever flood, their replied were they have been staying there for the past 3 years and no flood even on that day somewhere in april this year where many parts of BM was flooded.

  39. Sam
    July 1st, 2011 at 16:17 | #39

    yes…i went there again today & ask the Kampung people, they said not a flood area…. :>

  40. S
    July 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 | #40

    my loan already approve by Maybank….
    still waiting for UOB to get my laon approval…
    using UOB flexi, i did not need to pay large amout money to lower my interest rate..
    just link it with current account and u can get back some interest base housse interest rate -blr offer by bank….

  41. M
    July 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 | #41

    It rained overnight from yesterday to now on Penang Island thought of checking area out later today.. Ha ha anyone nearby want to go on site help survey river level first :) Yeah, area no longer flash flood nowadays AFTER pump installed all along Juru River. One pump is right at the end of the road can see in google map so the area “WAS” a flood area if you ask any older folks assumed resolved by pump.. Thus my question what if pump spoilt??

  42. L
    July 3rd, 2011 at 19:12 | #42

    if the pump accidentally can’t work properly, it will cause flood like past months in known flood area, like sri rambai.

  43. Sam
    July 4th, 2011 at 16:35 | #43

    Hi L, what you mean is If heavy rain & pump was not functioning during that period of time, it will cause flood, it is??

    Hi, anyone go survey the river level last weekend?

  44. M
    July 4th, 2011 at 16:37 | #44

    Touch wood :) Good news is I went over yesterday and things are still nice n dry even after full day rain fall. Most units already snapped up except for those with big land but still low 500K. It’s a good buy for those not looking for pay maintenance for gated & guarded. Funny thing is low pricing makes people wonder as competitors without land is already 600K+. Should just hike up prices 5-10% to get sales going 😉

  45. Lemon
    July 4th, 2011 at 16:51 | #45

    Hi all…I m staying in sri rambai one. @M, u r rite. It may flood if the pump spoilt or not in use due to some unforseen fault. Just like last flooding case happened in sri rambai, we guess it maybe fault of the pump guidance.

  46. richer
    July 5th, 2011 at 09:43 | #46

    how to go to penang bridge from the site ? I need to make U-turn at the bottleneck jamme up of Krico traffic light?

  47. M
    July 5th, 2011 at 16:30 | #47

    Yeah.. if they put a traffic light, more people will consider.. With yellow box, potentially you can turn right when it’s not jam.. What would be a good alternative semi-D? Anybody consider BM Permai? Kensington Residence is smaller I believe. Others like Tropicale Residency is far away. How?? Worth it to take a risk here?? Feel free to comment.

  48. Bosco
    July 5th, 2011 at 17:19 | #48

    Hi all, thanks for the valuable comments. Sam, you are right, if there is a flood AND the pump is not working, then it will be trouble. Flood does not need to happen frequently, I believe once is already enough…furniture damaged, walls need to be re-painted, and built-in kitchen cabinets need to be replaced. I can tolerate the yellow box, but the thought of flood is scary, especially if you have a young family. Rozhan was flooded too early this year, but the majority housing areas were ok. Did the developers raise the land? If so, how about this project?

  49. L
    July 6th, 2011 at 11:44 | #49

    @M, seem like u are considering many projects. i booked for tropicale residency. firstly i tried to avoid flood area, because my old house is at sri rambai. so, i exprienced flood. even if, saying that there is water pump would help, it might not guarantee for future bcoz many new projects pop up surrounding and the existing housing area will become lower and drainage might affected. so, i rather than look for higher area. this is just my opinion. and the concept of tropicale residency for the gated also one point i considered. the show units will ready may be august, u could check with office.

  50. M
    July 6th, 2011 at 17:35 | #50

    Thanks @L for input.. I’m researching now I’m considering between Bayu Villas & BM Permai undecided. If not for flood worry Bayu Villas would win as get much bigger land for cheaper price.

  51. stef
    July 10th, 2011 at 12:10 | #51

    M, i thought BM Permai are fully booked for phase I? Phase II yet to launch.
    Bosco, scary to hear what u said… touch wood touch wood.
    buyers what is the best package that u got from bank? which bank? possible to share?

  52. Sam
    July 10th, 2011 at 21:13 | #52

    Hi, you already book a unit at Desa Titi Panjang?

  53. M
    July 11th, 2011 at 17:30 | #53

    Most banks give same packages BLR-2.4 long term.
    BM permai a lot of Heliconia (bungalow) 658K & super semi-D (Viola Garden) left 710K but prices are already 150-250K more than here.

    For Bayu Villas, I manage to test turn right into/out of the area assuming as though if yellow box is there. Manageble if no traffic. Else have to move a bit to Mobil where there’s a yellow box to turn, else really U-turn at traffic light..

    stef, we can all have a pump committee to check it’s working if all staying there :)

  54. Bosco
    July 15th, 2011 at 16:34 | #54

    Hi all, I’m sure the community would be great, already many great people and suggestions here on this blog. After much consideration, I am too worried on the flood issue to commit and have cancelled my booking. All best everyone!

  55. stef
    July 15th, 2011 at 21:26 | #55

    @Sam, yupe, i have booked ..
    @Bosco, thanks for ur wish!
    HSBC gave -2.45 but somehow the letter format still under discussion of both bank & developer. if ok, good then. else, have to go for -2.4 from other bank.

  56. M
    July 15th, 2011 at 23:55 | #56

    Bosco, may I know which unit you let off? Should stay on as really good deal esp if you take more land as cheap. If worry about flood take the ones nearer road as should be safer but
    I’m still considering those near river as one factor is it’s quieter more tranquil.
    Stef, is -2.45 long term or first few years as PBB give -2.5 1st year, -2.45 2nd, 3rd year only

  57. stef
    July 17th, 2011 at 16:20 | #57

    -2.45 is whole tenure & bond 5 years. but now both parties still unable to agree on the letter format. really hope that they can make a deal.

  58. S
    July 17th, 2011 at 19:05 | #58

    find intresting fact..
    since 2002, seem there is a big project to prevent flood.
    so is there any flood after 2002?
    if no, then the flood prevention project consider successful

  59. M
    July 29th, 2011 at 18:02 | #59

    Yeah.. if willing to take risk and no flood, this is really a good deal. big land & big enough house at fair (some even consider cheap) price..

  60. S
    July 31st, 2011 at 19:38 | #60

    today go there again to check the land..i found out the front there got few kampung left and the area is lower than the housing land..might need to ask them is this area is flood area…
    if not then might be safe..
    however, last week i manage to get this sungai juru committe member they say they going to summit memorandum to CM Lim Guan Eng today regarding this sungai juru issue..
    i hope our CM can find solution to 100% eliminate the flood issue…

  61. M
    August 11th, 2011 at 15:00 | #61

    Wah. got CM to get involve also ah.. I think currently that area is NOT a flood area. What everyone is worried about is if it happens. Anybody finalized their deals already?

  62. Sam
    August 11th, 2011 at 16:17 | #62

    Hi S, any progress on the memorandum, submitted already? I’m really interested on this project, just can’t make decision yet due to flood concern…

  63. S
    August 13th, 2011 at 11:45 | #63

    yes that area never been flood before..however, current water is raising…we cant guarantee the future hehe… i still waiting my banker to summit the approval letter for me to sign due to my house price deduct rm100 as my land area reduce 0.3square feet…haha

    u can try call the sungai juru community regarding the memorandum…
    i not very sure regarding the progress

  64. stef
    September 4th, 2011 at 22:15 | #64

    hi all buyers, the developer has called & said that they will not ask money from bank until the house is fully completed. just wondering, is the land a swamp?

  65. ling
    September 20th, 2011 at 10:33 | #65

    From my observation at the site, the leftover trees beside the river there don’t look like pokok paya bakau. Anybody else went to the site that can comment further?

  66. S
    September 21st, 2011 at 16:59 | #66

    @ling, there wont be swamp area as u can see beside got coconut tree.
    how coconut going to grow in swamp area :)

  67. ling
    September 23rd, 2011 at 00:45 | #67

    s, you got the point there.
    Finally made up my mind booking for a unit near the small land beside the river. At first i thought it was too near to river, but after try to sneak view from corner of the townhouse area, it looks good to me =)
    Just wondering why most of the house already painted even inside not yet complete? I thought painting is the last process? I was a little bit shocked to see the house is almost 50% complete even just launched ~ 3 months+. They already start building Phase 2 even just open for registration.

  68. S
    September 24th, 2011 at 19:19 | #68

    i just sign my SNP today…
    my house is lot68 also corner near the river wan

  69. K
    September 25th, 2011 at 02:35 | #69

    Congrats S!! I think most people worry about the flood in long term but house size quite good for the price. Do you know the phase 1 take up % currently as seem quite slow and phase 2 already 10% cost more 513K. Just worry low take up and it becomes a bit deserted like Juru Heights and Cendana. I also don’t understand why Bayu Indah didn’t take off nearer to Autocity some more. I’m from Penang Island now considering mainland. Thanks for inputs.

  70. K
    September 25th, 2011 at 02:48 | #70

    @S, from the plan, I’m wondering whether the space beside your lot 68 will be a through road pass corner townhouse. . @ling, did you mean 69/70? You can buy both to make a big bungalow :) My previous post I actually meant Bayu Mutiara not bayu indah.

  71. ling
    September 26th, 2011 at 01:51 | #71

    @S, nice number you got there =) I’m still working on my loan. Glad to meet you here. I’m 84. =)

    @K, Yeap, my sister working in main con company in KL told that they using the normal material, so the house is selling below market price around that area. Anyway, i think the land in Penang worth more money than the house in future. Her boss knows TPPT and ask me don’t worry coz the developer sure will hand over.
    Ya, i also notice both Juru Heights and Bayu Mutiara. Let me share with you my last week’s research. This morning, i also make a few quick rounds at Bayu Mutiara.
    Juru Heights looks good when earlier but Sony took up many of the DST to turn into their hostel. It looks like another “country” now. haha.
    I found out an article claim that Bayu Mutiara is swamp area and the development there causing the flood during April 2011. Taman Sri Rambai near Jit Sin is famous for flood and Bayu Mutiara is just beside it. I notice that there are still many Bayu Mutiara’s Semi D units available from their official website although cheaper than Bayu Villas because the 1. the entrance is behind the DST. 2. Too near to plastic factory. Anyway, the DST still looks good to me.

  72. ling
    September 26th, 2011 at 02:06 | #72

    @K, if you are considering Bayu Villas, my advice is don’t wait for Phase 2. Some ppl might think that it’s nearer to main road, but try open up your map. http://wikimapia.org/#lat=5.3324774&lon=100.4476011&z=17&l=0&m=b&v=8&search=desa%20titi%20panjang&o=1
    Do you notice a dead water area beside the show room? If you pass by the main road, you can see how’s the water quality of the river near Phase 1 compare to Phase 2 area. I think still many good units available right now.

    @S, do you notice that your house is facing northwest instead of north? This morning i just brought my “lou pan” there. All this while, i thought my unit is facing west but actually little bit of southwest, lol.

  73. chng
    September 26th, 2011 at 11:03 | #73

    Hi Ling, can you advise the sale contact# for bayu mutiara?

  74. ling
    September 26th, 2011 at 11:31 | #74

    @chng, Sorry, i don’t have any contact for Bayu Mutiara. You might want to try this number from this website.

  75. chng
    September 26th, 2011 at 12:02 | #75

    I have tried, the phone number the service has been terminated and the sale office has been closed.

  76. chng
    September 26th, 2011 at 12:02 | #76

    Thanks, I have tried, the phone number the service has been terminated and the sale office has been closed.

  77. Deal
    September 26th, 2011 at 12:21 | #77

    Bayu Mutiara has long been sold out, it is one the few mainland’s successful project in terms of sub sale value. When it was launch, the overhead bridge was not ready so that area/interscetion was very jam, now it is highly sought after property in BM.

  78. M
    September 26th, 2011 at 12:41 | #78

    Wow, lots of inputs again. I was very worried about flood also when considering this project as like river view more. Thanks to all recent comments, may be good to take it now as phase 2 nearer road noisier and also @ling mentioned have a dead water lagoon area I noticed with new BIG notice board there. Lou pan also come in so feng shui master here :)

  79. PenangHunter
    September 26th, 2011 at 14:03 | #79

    Hi all, have all of you serve Google Maps, what is the thing locater right to the north of this project. If you see it, you may consider again if you really still want to buy. For those who have bought it, better you don’t see it, or else, you may regret.
    The thing is just located to the north, after cross the river (Juru River), about 100-200 meters distance.
    Besides, Juru River, is ranking top 3 most poluted river in Malaysia, i will not choose to face it everyday. Good luck, buyer.

  80. KK
    September 26th, 2011 at 15:10 | #80

    Indah Water one izzit…

  81. chng
    September 26th, 2011 at 16:32 | #81

    Acutally the exterior design is not good and out dated. The roof have two support woods makes it looks ugly. The main wood door is located at the corrner, expose to sunlight and rain door will damage soon.

  82. stupidPenangHunter
    September 26th, 2011 at 16:50 | #82

    Hi stupid PenangHunter, which developer company are you from ah?? I can see that you are trying to shoot here and there, discourage ppl from not buying. So which property that you think is good to buy ahh?? i suggest you go buy atap house enough lah.

  83. Sam
    September 26th, 2011 at 17:00 | #83

    any fengshui issue if house facing northwest?

  84. PenangHunter
    September 26th, 2011 at 17:01 | #84

    Hi Stupid, since u name ur self as stupid.
    I just give value input for people to consider. Buy or not, it is still depend on individual.
    I am sure many of the read may follow my direction to search Google Maps now, before buy this Titi Panjang.
    As u, since you behave so agressive, you mind be one of the buyer who have bought it, or you many be someone from the developer people.
    Pls, this the purpose of the forum, as long as you did hurt people, then it find.
    You are so Kurang Ajar of calling people Stupid. If you are so good, then you should control you emotion and listen to me. Now i have to call u Stupid.

  85. ling
    September 26th, 2011 at 17:55 | #85

    @Deal, Do you mean the info from their official website is outdated?
    Do you know much is the market price for DST and Semi D at bayu mutiara now? I agreed that the location is good there looking at the distance from Main Road.

    Hey, calm down everyone. Sorry for any bias comment previously. I’m just sharing my own analysis.

    @PenangHunt, yes, i already saw that thing long time ago. It’s actually my major concern before considering to book my unit. Is the Plant already operating there or still in construction?

    I believe every areas got it’s pros and cons. I’m also very sad on the water quality of Sg Juru but considering the location, surrounding, river shape, mountain location and layout, it’s a tradeoff for me.
    Sometimes, you should just visit the site and the surrounding area before making your decision. There’s a small motor road beside the river, you might want to park your car at the corner of the townhouse area and take a walk there.

  86. ling
    September 26th, 2011 at 19:48 | #86

    @chng, i agree the exterior looks not as good as some of the new Semi D around the area. If you have the budget, you should go for BM Permai or BM Utama. I like their balcony made of glass that look elegant. Just too bad it’s not within my budget =(
    Anyway, do you know that there’s a reason why the main door is located at the corner instead of middle? I believe most of the house has the door at the side of the house. Actually, it’s better not to position the gate directly with the main door in term of fengshui as you will drive your car in and out everyday through the gate. Main door is the most important part of the house.

    @sam, there no specific fengshui issue with northwest. Many things come into consideration if you believe such as land shape, river shape, the location of the house in the housing area and more. It’s really depends on what you prefer. One of the common criteria most people look at is house facing the sun in the morning or afternoon so that the house is not hot. Too bad, the beautiful Bukit Mertajam is located at the East of the area. So, it’s another tradeoff for me to choose house facing west as preferable mountain at the back of the house because Bukit Mertajam is just within 10km radius. If i have the money, i would choose Penang Island Property with house facing the east and mountain at the back. =)
    If you interested, i can share with you my info personally instead of posting here as i believe, some ppl not really into this topic.

  87. Sam
    September 26th, 2011 at 22:14 | #87

    TQ for the sharing, I’m also considering a new project behind carefour Seberang Jaya, next to the river…. :> , really can’t decide yet….

  88. chng
    September 27th, 2011 at 10:00 | #88

    Thanks fot the sharing, I am quite interested to buy Bayu Villas as it is within my affordablity. Hopefully still have units for selection.

  89. ling
    September 27th, 2011 at 12:56 | #89

    Mind to share the name of the project behind carrefour Seberang Jaya. I’m quite interested that area too. The rental is good there coz many doctors around. At this moment, I still can cancel my booking anytime if can find better property.

  90. M
    September 27th, 2011 at 13:33 | #90

    As @ling the oxidation pond was a factor in decision but so far no bad smell from location & river and also so far Jit Sin is top performing school next to it. River view is more because you know the land is Reserved so you won’t suddenly have a development right in front.

    A positive factor I have on the house is it’s decent size and also able to move in condition. BM Permai I was also considering but honestly put off by too many glasses as it’s green and we need to have to have lots of curtains if we want privacy. BM Permai also have a communications tower that is very near. BM Utama is too expensive for so small later phase.

  91. Sam
    September 27th, 2011 at 16:54 | #91

    developer is Metro Jelata….

  92. ling
    September 27th, 2011 at 22:11 | #92

    Thanks. I have look at the details already. The project is indeed very attractive. The location is good, the whole project land is square, the layout is good too, the design is nice and also gated. I can see that the comparable price to Bayu Villas is their double storey terrace. The problem is any unit still available since so laku?

  93. KK
    September 27th, 2011 at 22:19 | #93

    2nd phase soft launch by them but all already been booked. Only can be get with some undertable money. RM400k for 2 storey terrace no G&G.

  94. ling
    September 27th, 2011 at 22:39 | #94

    aww, i’m tempted too on this property. I don’t mind paying undertable money if got unit available facing Northwest with river located on the left of the house. Think i should visit their sales office and the site this weekend to see the surrounding. Sam, i’m in same position with you now, haha.
    I have just done applying my loan for Bayu Villas today. Worse come to worse, i still can get back my RM1K booking fees on Bayu Villas and recalculate everything again. ^.^

  95. BC
    September 28th, 2011 at 15:07 | #95

    Hi Ling,
    I’m also considering a unit facing northwest, will go to their sales office this weekend before making final decision… :>

  96. ling
    September 28th, 2011 at 23:01 | #96

    Btw, we’re discussing about Villa Primero on my previous post. Are you considering Bayu Villas or Villa Primero? If Bayu Villas, i can help you give some points on the each unit no pros and cons for your consideration as i’ve done a lot of analysis before this. =)

    Villa Primero guys just replied my email, “Sry, All sold out”. Should i be straightforward to them asking for “undertable” unit availability? LOL.

  97. BC
    September 29th, 2011 at 02:43 | #97

    I’m refering to Phase 2 next to Villa Primero.

  98. KK
    September 29th, 2011 at 09:43 | #98

    Yea, what i mean is phase 2 next time Villa Primero.. the buildup size is larger than villa primero but it is not Gated & Guarded. If you are really interested, you should go to Metro Jelata sales office and ask for “undertable” units.

  99. BC
    September 29th, 2011 at 11:40 | #99

    what is the built up area & land are for Villa Primero?

  100. Sam
    September 29th, 2011 at 21:16 | #100

    Hi, if Bayu Villas, what is your opinion of the unit facing north or south which is infront of the 3 storey flat?

  101. ling
    September 30th, 2011 at 00:14 | #101

    Try avoid the house no 49 with the low cost pointing at the back of your house and also the house opposite the no 49 with the weird shape land with a corner shape pointing at the right side of the house. (both house got fengshui problem) If i were you, i would prefer house facing south but bear in mind that low cost might have a lot of motors coming in and out from behind your house. It’s will be a bit noisy if you’re the type of person that easily awake. That won’t be a problem for me. hehe

  102. ling
    September 30th, 2011 at 00:20 | #102

    The reason i choose south is as you can see, the master bedroom is the biggest possibility that i will stay in. From the house layout, the best bed position will be the head of the bed sitting on north wall of master bedroom which means the beautiful Bukit Mertajam is at your back supporting you.

  103. BC
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:56 | #103

    how about kichen? kitchen sitting at south is the best?

  104. ling
    September 30th, 2011 at 13:25 | #104

    Kitchen best location really dependable on your house facing/sitting location. Think you also into this kind of thing… hehe (Kitchen is the 2nd most important area of the house).

  105. ling
    September 30th, 2011 at 15:34 | #105

    Yes, my loan for Bayu Villas has been approved. Now in dilemma either to take full flexi or partial flexi loan. Anyone can share the advantages or disadvantages in details?

  106. chng
    October 1st, 2011 at 20:10 | #106

    Which bank loan you applied?
    Is the sale office accept credit card for downm payment?

  107. K
    October 2nd, 2011 at 00:01 | #107

    @chng: I think most accept max 1-2K CC maybe for booking as doubt will take 47K or more for 10% down payment :) Have you booked or sign S&P?

    @ling, full flexi is basically a mortgage loan where they’ll earn in charges and hopefully the “convenience” of taking $$ out you may more likely do so. It will suit prudent cash rich folks or those that cashflows in+out a lot like business folks. Partial flexi basically means you can take out or pay extra when needed but extra 1-2 days informing which I think is OK for most salaried folks as I did that last few loans to avoid all the extra mortgage loan charges. Appreciate correction on my assumptions.

    I’m really still undecided on Bayu Villas as besides all the factor, it boils up to travel time to FTZ or Georgetown and staying on Island getting a smaller place midway eg Central Park. Any folks with actual move from Island to mainland experience can comment? Any pros & cons;travelling time, kids education such as any good national school, etc.

  108. chng
    October 2nd, 2011 at 06:57 | #108

    Thanks K, I viewed the show unit and original unit yesterday. I like the design layout. I will booked today.

  109. Sam
    October 2nd, 2011 at 14:30 | #109

    Hi Ling,
    considered of the location, i most like will choose Phase 2 next to Villa Primero, the unit is facing northwest, kitchen at the south. Any comment?

  110. ling
    October 2nd, 2011 at 15:31 | #110

    I applied for Public Bank, UOB, CIMB and HSBC, lolz. So far, i think HSBC offer best rate if you plan for own stay. If for investment, i think Public Bank is quite good. I personally prefer CIMB but still depends on what they have to offer me when all come back to me later.

  111. ling
    October 2nd, 2011 at 15:35 | #111

    K, Thanks for your explanation. I’m staying at Penang now too. My office is just within walking distance from my house. Actually i quite hesitate to move to mainland too but considering i might have bigger family in future + my parents might stay with me in future, that’s why i’m considering a bigger house. I can only get a condo in Penang with the same price which the elder don’t prefer to stay. FYI, the travelling time from Bayu Villas to FTZ is < 45 mins for normal working days. If Jam, then you should know better than me =). Hope 2nd Penang Bridge will ease out the traffic in future. At least got alternate route to back home since this property is in the middle of both bridge.

  112. ling
    October 2nd, 2011 at 15:38 | #112

    Where is the exact location of phase 2? I don’t have the time to visit the site yet.

  113. chng
    October 2nd, 2011 at 21:10 | #113

    What is the rate that HSBC offer?

  114. ling
    October 2nd, 2011 at 21:54 | #114

    BLR -2.45

  115. ling
    October 2nd, 2011 at 22:58 | #115

    Sam, try put your kitchen at southwest, northeast, west or northwest. Will have health problem with kitchen at south when your house facing northwest. If really can’t avoid, then put your stove at those location within the kitchen area. =)

  116. BD
    October 3rd, 2011 at 08:29 | #116

    From what I know, the direction of main door, stove, bed and the location of rooms in the house depend on the house main person’s (father/husband) year of birth.

  117. Sam
    October 3rd, 2011 at 08:54 | #117

    Hi Ling & BD,

    looks like the best way is hire a feng shui master when going to renovate the house?
    Hi Ling, Phase 2 is next to the river too. Do you know there is 2 row of single storey behind carefoure? Phase 2 is in between carefoure & this single storey houses (exactly next to single storey). The site already been cleared & gated with blue colour aluminium plate.
    For double storey terrace, there is only 2 row, facing northwest or southeast. For the row facing southeast, behind is 3 storey terrace, i feel it will not have enough sunlight because block by 3 storey terrace? For row facing northwest, behind is single storey, so no people can look into your bedroom :>

  118. ling
    October 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 | #118

    haha, totally agreed. Just that i hope less renovation needed if you know some basics before you hire the master.
    You got the point there on the privacy. If you think the other way around, the 3 storey building will block some view from northwest balcony and also wind coming from infront. Anyway, if for me, i will also choose northwest as Bukit Mertajam is located at your back within 8km and the mountain is more superior to the building. Best condition is house facing northwest and the 3 storey building behind. =) BTW, how much is the 2nd phase now?

  119. BD
    October 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 | #119

    Villa Primero phase 2 for sale now? How much is the 2ST? Where is the location for phase 1?

  120. eenngg
    October 3rd, 2011 at 12:30 | #120

    I plan to buy a unit at Bayu Villa. Which unit do you think good? Unit 81 good?

  121. Sam
    October 3rd, 2011 at 13:22 | #121

    Hi Ling & BD,

    Let continue our “talk” under Villa Primero webpage….same developer….:>

  122. ling
    October 3rd, 2011 at 13:37 | #122

    81 is a good unit. Anyway, i personally think 83 is better than 81 coz the land in front will be grass or small playground = more fresh air =). come and be my neighbour la, hehe. I personally prefer the mirror layout of 81. if you buy for own stay, you might want to consider 94 coz more neighbours and if you have more budget, should go for 86. I notice someone just let go 86, it was unavailable before this. Go ahead with 81 if it means something to you. (eg. your year of birth)

  123. eenngg
    October 3rd, 2011 at 15:15 | #123

    IC. 83 also ok. 86 how much u know? Which unit u buy ling? 83 facing where u know?
    94 door at right side, so bo gam.

  124. ling
    October 3rd, 2011 at 16:15 | #124

    I’m buying 84. Door at right side got any problem? my unit door is at right side. 83 also facing same direction with 81. I think 86 around 483k or 488k already, don’t really remember but it’s a corner unit. You think corner unit good?

  125. eenngg
    October 3rd, 2011 at 22:42 | #125

    Right door no problem… Just want pray god left door better lo. Conner unit ok but the way they cut the land not so good lo. Price 483k. Do anyone heard abt taman bukit minyak got new house?

  126. eenngg
    October 3rd, 2011 at 22:43 | #126

    Who else buying here? What unit no?

  127. ling
    October 4th, 2011 at 02:01 | #127

    Ya, i also don’t like they cut off a lot of the front corner of the land. Hard for people if want to renovate the gate to park more cars. You know what is the land size of the no 86 compare to standard unit?

  128. Sam
    October 4th, 2011 at 14:40 | #128

    Hi Ling,
    I’m going for Rivere Garden (phase 2 of villa primero)..facing northwest. I refer to Joey Yap’s book. after screening, it look better location than facing southeast…. :> hopefully it is a good choose…

  129. eenngg
    October 4th, 2011 at 14:55 | #129

    Hi Ling,

    The land size I’m also not so sure. I think around 3300. You want change? Actually you can design the cut off land become koi pool.

    Hi Sam,

    The house there for Semi D very expensive ler….

  130. Sam
    October 4th, 2011 at 15:17 | #130

    I choose double storey terrace lor….

  131. ling
    October 4th, 2011 at 17:10 | #131

    Yes, i thought of that before because of larger land size and nicer house number. But i’m not sure if it’s worth it to pay extra 16k for the 500sqft land thinking of all the units looks the same because this property is Semi D and not DST.

  132. M
    October 4th, 2011 at 18:43 | #132

    Land is approx 30+/sq ft which is very cheap and great for those who have good plans for the extra land..

  133. BD
    October 5th, 2011 at 09:10 | #133

    Sam :
    Hi Ling & BD,
    Let continue our “talk” under Villa Primero webpage….same developer….:>

    Is Bayu Villa & Villa primero same developer?

    Anyway, anyone know how’s the occupancy rate of the townhouses there?

  134. ling
    October 5th, 2011 at 10:50 | #134

    Nope, Bayu Villas is under TPPT and Villa Primero is under Metro Jelata.
    I heard from developer left 3 units available for townhouse. It’s around 90% occupancy when i make a few quick turns there.

  135. eenngg
    October 5th, 2011 at 11:02 | #135

    Actually worth to buy it. Don’t think. Just do it. This is my 2nd property, reason is 1st property no land. :(

    Sure or not? Don’t follow my step. Now din buy SemiD with land, don’t know in future how much it will cost us. When I buy terrace, the conner with big lands only 200k+, now 400k+.

  136. Sam
    October 5th, 2011 at 13:34 | #136

    my main worries is whether it will flood in future? very near to the river.

    hey, anyone can advice what is the total $$ for stamp duty, lawyer fees etc for a rm467K unit?

  137. ling
    October 5th, 2011 at 13:48 | #137

    Sam, that day when i went to the site to take my house facing direction, i met a passer-by on motorbike. He said that he has been staying there for 20 years and the flood the most reach the river bank only. He has a small farm of chickens and rabbits further up nearer to the Juru Sewerage through motor path beside the river. I asked him about the Juru Sewerage, and he says so far no smell. That’s why i stick with my decision on Bayu Villas after meeting this friendly Malay guy. However, he recommend those units at the center of the housing area.

  138. Sam
    October 5th, 2011 at 13:59 | #138

    earlier i did consider unit in front of the 3 storey flat…..but end up many comment received..so give up…

  139. ling
    October 5th, 2011 at 14:03 | #139

    Oklar.. at least every unit also got land for Semi D. Some ppl advice that corner unit might be noisier and dirtier a bit because of beside the road. Anyway, i agree the price for the extra land is really great for investment for future but i’m buying for own stay. The extra land also give you better flexibility to renovate the house and also more parking for cars inside the house. Why don’t you consider of 86?

  140. ling
    October 5th, 2011 at 14:11 | #140

    Every house also got pros and cons. No perfect house. Just can give and take on our own preference. =) I haven’t visit the Rivere Garden yet, but i think the location is convenient there.
    I quite familiar with that place. Sometimes, buying house need to use some feeling too.. haha. Too much consideration will let the opportunities fly away.

  141. Sam
    October 5th, 2011 at 14:31 | #141

    86, what is the facing direction?
    I went to show house on 10/1, meet a guy there, he did comment where i feel it is true too. Do you have a think of the land where 2 river meet? the smaller river which currently flow with curve/snake? when a river curve, the river flow intend to wash out the land slowly, although there is 50meter from river bank, but after years by years, it might slowly eat up the lands. So it is better to chose unit at the center rather than near to river.

  142. eenngg
    October 5th, 2011 at 15:20 | #142

    86 bo lui la. See how lo this weekend when I visit the show house. Y u choose facing west? Sunset very HOT lo.
    Go perfect home if we got many many money..

    For lawyer I think you keep 10k lo. Actual amount I need to ask my friend. She known better (property lawyer).
    Abt flood, do anyone know the land above sea level by how many ft? Maybe need to check.

  143. BD
    October 5th, 2011 at 15:40 | #143

    For your RM467k house:
    Stamp duty S&P: first 100k 1%, after that 2% = RM8340
    Stamp duty loan: 0.5% = RM2335
    Legal fee: first 150k 1%, after that 0.7% = RM3719

  144. eenngg
    October 5th, 2011 at 15:42 | #144

    Need so much? My friend say got 50% discount lol… If use same lawyer for all.

  145. ling
    October 5th, 2011 at 15:46 | #145

    Yes, you are right, that’s why i’m trying to avoid the house facing the curve and choose unit inside the curve. Actually, that’s part of the fengshui study also. 86 is facing west/southwest, i still can’t get the accurate direction yet since can’t go into the contruction site.

    I prefer river in front and mountain at the back, haha. You might think i’m very supertitious. =P

  146. BD
    October 5th, 2011 at 15:58 | #146

    I think stamp duty and lawyer legal fees cannot be discounted, unless the developer pay for you.

    I think you think too far. The river bank won’t erode that fast kua. Even if it happens later, it will be “repaired” before it reaches the houses.

    Anyway, flood is a concern. All of us know that this river has caused few terrible floods in Taman Sri Rambai which is situated at the other side of the river many years ago. I’m not sure whether the side of Bayu Villa is affected or not at that time. The positive part is, no major flood for recent few years. This river was once rated as the most polluted river in Malaysia and even south east asia. Now I guess it’s surely improving.

  147. eenngg
    October 5th, 2011 at 16:41 | #147

    You are right but if your own lawyer, fee can be discount but not on stamp duty.

  148. ooi
    October 5th, 2011 at 16:42 | #148

    Bayu villas will face same traffic issues as BM Permai especially when need to turn to opposite road. If local authority can place a traffic light at its junction, then it is good. otherwise will be a challenge to turn to opposite road especially when office hour time. No offence, just give some views.

  149. ling
    October 5th, 2011 at 18:58 | #149

    i saw someone post this at BM Permai forum. O.o

    we, the owners did some survey before purchase, including the mosque, malay area, and the traffic problems. don you think repeating those issues over here make this forum quite boring?! i believe whoever wanna buy property surely will go to the site, instead of going thru the property forums to decide.”

  150. eenngg
    October 5th, 2011 at 21:46 | #150

    I think how worse the traffic from Bayu Villa also better than traffic at BM Permai because they facing more traffic places that Bayu Villa.
    From Bayu Villa can just make a twice right turn and no more jam.

  151. ling
    October 6th, 2011 at 10:07 | #151

    Guys, which loan better?
    1. BLR -2.45, Locking 5 years
    2. BLR -2.4, Locking 2 years
    3. BLR -2.5 1st year, -2.45 2nd & 3rd Year, -2.4 subsequently, Locking 3 years

  152. BD
    October 6th, 2011 at 10:34 | #152

    For own stay, I’ll take no.1
    For investment, no.3

  153. Sam
    October 6th, 2011 at 10:43 | #153

    Hi, latest visit to show house on 10/1, i was told there will be a yellow box at the entrance, no brick wall along the river.

    Hi BD,
    After rm8340 + rm2335 + rm3719 (~rm15K), still need another few K for lawyer, am I right?

    Stamp duty S&P: first 100k 1%, after that 2% = RM8340
    Stamp duty loan: 0.5% = RM2335
    Legal fee: first 150k 1%, after that 0.7% = RM3719

  154. BD
    October 6th, 2011 at 11:30 | #154

    Ya, there are still some disbursement fees for lawyer who pay certain authorities on your behalf. The amount I’m not sure, but should be around 1k I guess.

    Stamp duty for loan depends on the total amount of loan u get from bank, so should be less than RM2335.

  155. Sam
    October 6th, 2011 at 13:06 | #155

    Hi…thank you for the information.

  156. M
    October 6th, 2011 at 15:48 | #156

    To go out from housing area: Currently at night with no traffic, I just turn right. Else I stay on the right lane and eventually turn into the Pelita nasi kandar to turn out. If people follow yellow box, easiest to turn to petrol station first and then right turn.

    Flood or not I think really depend on whether the pump house keeps working. Maybe can have house committee to ensure it’s serviced or working? Else, it hasn’t ever flood even after heavy downpour recently.

    Dust near road is really true as my current house facing a road I earlier thought never mind but now have to clean house often. Also the sound pollution from traffic. So prefer nearer river now as have bigger land options also.. Then now worry flood :(

    Anybody got any comment if really stay there, what are the schooling options both national & chinese primary?? I went to see a nearby national school that has sign celabrating just attendance “Congratulations, you are at school” which worries me :)

  157. BD
    October 6th, 2011 at 16:17 | #157

    For BM folks, more famous non-chinese school: stowell primary school, BM high school, BM Convent.

    Chinese primary schools a lot, not much different I think, but near to that area are Ping Min Bkt Tengah, True Light Juru, New Beng Teik Kota Permai. These 3 are almost same distance from Bayu Villas. Others are Keow Kuang Bkt Kecil, Kim Seng BM & Sin Ya Alma. Kim Seng is most famous. For secondary school of course the famous Jit Sin, which your child can take a sampan across the river to go to school. :)

  158. ling
    October 6th, 2011 at 20:14 | #158

    BD, Thanks for your suggestion. FYI, i have just accepted no. 1 as i plan for my own stay. Do you know roughly how much need to spend for refinancing in future just in case the -BLR suddenly dropped in coming years?

  159. BD
    October 7th, 2011 at 15:11 | #159

    I have no experience in refinancing, can’t really answer u how much. But I think the fees should be the same like getting new loan, which include loan stamp duty, legal fees and various disbursement fees.

  160. K
    October 8th, 2011 at 09:42 | #160

    @ling usually you can write letter to reduce interest if change drastically and bank’s response depends on how much interest left. If different banks, you need to take account of loan agreement fees offset the interest savings or not. Usually yes, when your loan is still a lot

    I may pop by the site to take a look again. Do you know if the showhouse is still open?

  161. ling
    October 9th, 2011 at 22:54 | #161

    @BD, @K,
    Thanks for the info. Yes, i think the show house still there even on weekends. Just don’t go too late in the evening.

  162. M
    October 10th, 2011 at 12:03 | #162

    I was there yesterday. Showhouse open Fri-Sun 10-5pm with some lots still available mostly big land or west facing. Look at site again and the triangle divider at entrance make it hard to enter from Carrefour and exit right.. According to the salesman, it will be removed together with yellow box.

    Now wondering if this is worth investment for longer term if not immediate stay. Eg, will we get another house with big cheap land at this price 5-10 years later? This also have to factor in the place really will not flood.

    Do you think it will become a worker’s hostel with Dell nearby like what’s faced by Juru heights? If not, it’s good as Carrefour and food available nearby.

    Some discussions appreciated by those booked or even those already signed S&P on what makes you bit the bullet :)

  163. eenngg
    October 10th, 2011 at 21:32 | #163

    For refinance, there are few ways to do this. Depends on which bank you have your loan now. Some bank can do refinance without any charges like Citibank.
    Do you know there is a small chicken & duck farm nearby? Opposite your house there is a small path, go until behind and you can see it.
    Do you think Unit 38 OK or not?

  164. K
    October 10th, 2011 at 23:05 | #164

    I tried travelling today to Bayu Villas after work to gauge the jam from FTZ. One positive factor is the the Ipoh/KL turn right way that goes to Autocity is moving while left 2 lanes going straight to Prai/Butterworth is jam.. Then at autocity turning left again clear so it’s good :)

    @eenngg surprisingly I also walk the small path but didn’t reach the end, you’re more adventurous :) Is it a big farm , then it’s even lower than the housing area.

    Also went to Carrefour which I didn’t know is open to look see and have dinner.

  165. ling
    October 11th, 2011 at 19:10 | #165

    Yes, i met the farm owner during my visit but i didn’t go all the way inside to see the farm coz i’m thinking 1 person farm should not be very big. How big is the farm anyway? Will it cause any problem like flies and smell or not like in Tambun? BTW, i not sure where exactly is Unit 38. Somewhere near the bungalow unit right? The advantage for front part location is easier to tell people the location of your house when some guest visiting your house.

  166. eenngg
    October 11th, 2011 at 23:30 | #166

    The farm is not big. No problem. Unit 37&38 facing TNB, so not going to buy.

  167. ling
    October 12th, 2011 at 00:25 | #167

    i thought 61, 62, 63 only facing TNB? Anyway, what other problem if facing TNB other than the view not so nice?

  168. ling
    October 12th, 2011 at 00:27 | #168

    Hey, is it unit 37&38 Phase 2?

  169. eenngg
    October 12th, 2011 at 12:40 | #169

    Unit 37&38 under Phase 1. You want move to there?

  170. ling
    October 12th, 2011 at 13:37 | #170

    No no.. i’ll stick to my unit. =)

  171. M
    October 12th, 2011 at 16:12 | #171

    I considered 37 before as nearer road and some land. 38 also have advantage if you plan an intermediate as you will hopefully face a nice bungalow.

    Anybody sign S&P yet and how long can we wait?

  172. 88
    October 12th, 2011 at 17:29 | #172

    Just spotted one new development with GnG concept in BM – orange villa by tah wah – http://tahwah.com/ProOV.html . I think its location is very strategic since it’s near to BM’s pejabat tanah and majistic court. any comments to share on this project?

  173. BD
    October 12th, 2011 at 19:02 | #173

    Will the price of Orange villa beat Gemilang Permai? I think so… Anyway, it should be named as “sugar cane villa” :)

    Their project at Bagan Ajam seems to be more interesting.

  174. 88
    October 12th, 2011 at 20:15 | #174

    Called their sales, this is what i got – Price for orange villa, 3 storey terrace with roof top garden around 569k. 3 storey semi-d with roof top garden – 704k. Heard that got discount for early bids. Location looks good cause that area is near to primary school(walking distance), 5 mins to jit sin secondary school, gemilang permai and sri rambai pasar. 8mins to auto city. GnG concept with swimming pool and club house. Wow!!

    It will sell like hot cake i believe !!

  175. eenngg
    October 12th, 2011 at 23:19 | #175

    Do you know what they sell the unit so cheap?

  176. ABCD
    October 12th, 2011 at 23:25 | #176

    guess they got the land cheap,

  177. ling
    October 12th, 2011 at 23:40 | #177

    If you notice my previous post, i got mentioned why it’s cheaper than other surrounding properties. You should be able to notice if you visit their standard unit. Try see the hand rails on the stairs and the balcony compare to BM Permai. My sister working as QS told me that the materials that they use is just normal material, that’s why cheaper. Moreover, TPPT is a company under bank negara that aim to build affordable home. Maybe that’s why they can get the land cheaper.

  178. ABCD
    October 12th, 2011 at 23:49 | #178

    they built the townhouse back in 2006, back then land should be cheap

  179. ling
    October 13th, 2011 at 00:03 | #179

    hmm… got logic also. Btw, why still left 3 empty units for the townhouse? Those units any problem?

  180. M
    October 13th, 2011 at 09:51 | #180

    If eventually don’t get to stay, how much rental do you think this area will fetch? Thanks.

  181. BD
    October 13th, 2011 at 10:07 | #181

    From mudah.my, two storey terrace at Bayu Mutiara is asking for a rental of RM800, fully furnished even at RM1800! I think original unit semi-D here should be around RM1000-1200, depends on the demand at the time it is completed.

  182. BD
    October 13th, 2011 at 10:16 | #182

    I think only 3 empty townhouse units left is quite common. There are about 100 units there.

    Anyway, anyone check the developer’s previous project at Mengkuang? The townhouse has about 50/50 mixed ethnicity, how about the Bayu villa semi-ds?

  183. ling
    October 13th, 2011 at 11:23 | #183

    Yeap, i also think it will be around 1k for unfurnished unit looking at the current market price. Anyway, is this area easy for renting?

    i think should be mixed ethnicity also as during my visit to the showhouse, i see multirace too. We won’t know until it’s completed.

  184. M
    October 13th, 2011 at 15:13 | #184

    I’m ok and actually encourage multirace. My worry is only if the area don’t pick up or become a run down area but unlikely as so many amenities nearby. Do really wish the traffic condiction improve though. Still undecided to bite the bullet or not?

  185. BD
    October 13th, 2011 at 16:15 | #185

    Not easy to rent out a semi-D in BM area I guess, as most people prefer to buy rather than rent (if they can afford to stay in semi-d). Location is important, and I think this project should be ok.

    However, if the property price keep on rising, most young people will not be able to buy landed house then, and will be forced to rent. We can expect more and more medium to high end condos to be built in BM area in the coming years, just like B’worth.

  186. K
    October 13th, 2011 at 22:17 | #186

    Good point @BD. Though mainland has more land than island, eventually housing projects nearby bridge will eventually get less and less and condos may be the next phase like what is happenning on the island. Second bridge area will be the next expansion site as already happenning with Batu Maung area prices are rising due to Southbay.

  187. eenngg
    October 13th, 2011 at 22:45 | #187

    Mah Sing just buy a land in Batu Kawan for 2013 projects.
    I think Bukit Tambun will develop faster than BM and bukit minyak soon.

  188. eenngg
    October 13th, 2011 at 22:47 | #188

    When you want bite your bullet? Buy in Pearl City or Bukit Minyak?

  189. ling
    October 14th, 2011 at 00:44 | #189

    I also think anywhere near the bridge will develop faster in future. However, i got a friend ask me, “Why Raja Uda develop faster than Seberang Jaya even it’s nearer to bridge?”. I think in term of economical way for business, places nearer to transportation will develop faster for industrial and factories or commercial area. It may not necessary for residential area as many factors comes into consideration later.

  190. eenngg
    October 14th, 2011 at 11:43 | #190

    Info to share:

  191. eenngg
    October 14th, 2011 at 11:44 | #191

    Do you ask Feng Shui master to see your house?
    Main door and toilet can’t in same line?

  192. BD
    October 14th, 2011 at 12:09 | #192

    Yes. That’s why I think property price in mainland pg will not drop. When landed house price is too high, apartment/condos will be built, then condo price will slowly increase here, and landed price also follow, as the land get less and less.

    When economy turn very bad, island property will be hit first, and I predict more people working in the island will think seriously about renting/buying property in the mainland, as they are ~50% cheaper, and both areas are well connected now. Thus, mainland property price may keep on rising because of high demand.

    Another point is, Bayan Lepas FTZ is kind of saturated. New industrial zone is at Batu Kawan. If mahsing really join in here, then we can expect the property price to rise significantly here in the future. I’m not surprise that at that time, Simpang Ampat/tambun/Batu Kawan are more sought after compared to BM.

  193. M
    October 14th, 2011 at 12:14 | #193

    @eenngg, may bite the bullet soon in Bayu Villas as nearer to Island though Batu Kawan may in future develop faster.

  194. BD
    October 14th, 2011 at 12:17 | #194

    Where do you get the news that Mahsing bought land in Batu Kawan?

  195. BD
    October 14th, 2011 at 13:50 | #195

    The reasons Raja Uda develops faster than Seb jaya:
    – difference in race distribution
    – power lines in Seb Jaya

  196. eenngg
    October 14th, 2011 at 14:29 | #196

    Why not just consider Pearl City? It is more nearer to 2nd link.

  197. eenngg
    October 14th, 2011 at 14:29 | #197

    From one of my property agent. She in charge on that land.

  198. The_truth
    October 14th, 2011 at 14:52 | #198

    BD :@K
    When economy turn very bad, island property will be hit first, and I predict more people working in the island will think seriously about renting/buying property in the mainland, as they are ~50% cheaper, and both areas are well connected now. Thus, mainland property price may keep on rising because of high demand.

    This is my first time I hear ppl comment about Mainland PG property is greater than Island property. As trace for history, every cycle of economy downturn mainland will hits the most. This is the fact.

    Island is short of land. Population may grow but land cannot grow. That’s why the price keep hiking for new high. Compare to mainland, except those township which is owned by majority of Chinese can grow only. The best example is like Raja Uda.

    Else, don’t expect your property price may appreciate if your area is full with mat rempit with all those dirty dirty stall beside the road side. :) I may not say the mainland property price may not appreciate but it will be higher risk not only depend on the location but also the population which is out of your control.

    Code you another example, people more willingness to buy ShineVille Park in PG which is surrounded & populated by Ghost rather than chose mainland. With the same price, those buyer may get a bangalow unit in mainland. WHY still buy ShineVille park??? Simple, bcoz they believe that $$ gain in island property will be always better despite putting their whole family into a haunted township.

  199. Ah Dog
    October 14th, 2011 at 15:06 | #199

    Batu Kawan is MSC and Seberang Perai Utara will be the second. A lot of giant factory will build there, then follow by SP Utara. The resedential rental is cheap, land is cheap, easy to develope compare to Island. One day, Island factory will move out one by one, due to higher cost living for their expatriate, and eventually island will become tourist place like Pulau Langkawi, with those rich man super condo. Those residential will focus in the mainland and more and more condo will also be built at seberang.

  200. Ah Dog
    October 14th, 2011 at 15:07 | #200

    Btw, shinevile pask is too early to term as haunted township, let’s see once it is completed.

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