Fyi, get to know All project from Ideal Property, upon completion there will be gangster contractor force you to take up their renovation service or else need to pay so-call “sampah fee”. They charge ridiculous price. Many owner of Ideal Property is facing this issue, and the developer didn’t help to solve this issue, worst still allowing them to set up a booth in the building. So think twice before make the choice to buy their project.

I’m interesting , please email me burntan123@outlook.com

I am interested

Infront of Baystar ? oh shit my Baystar price going to sink and stink !

freehold or leasehold?

We should ban n boycott these idiot contractors…

i heard this before. sad of this

It looks like Bayan Lepas areas are covered by these appointed contractors. Developers say it is not their problems. They will tell you this land belongs to who and their job is to complete the projects. So, buyers are facing problems when they want to renovate their units.

Condolences to baystar owner, being block

Faster enjoy the sea view now before its too late

Life is hard and sometime need face reality , me too especially penang

Unless u can buy 30 floor above and with no land in front u

@CK: There is always land reclamation for the “greater good” of Penang. BTW, 30 stories building will soon be dwarfed by new launches of >40 stories nowadays.

I really pity those baystar buyers, especially those who bought from resale market at RM600psf upwards. I feel so sorry for them.

@sophy

Baystar is low dense. Sold at less than 300pft during launch. I won’t want to too worry too much for them.

@cookie

I said RESALE market, sellers were asking for RM500-700psf. For those who didn’t buy, lucky! For those who bought, well, waterfish lor!

Seems like very good location, anyone or agent have more details? when launching etc? seems Ideal doing lots of project recently with i-santorini, foresta etc

I heard it will launch after Chinese New Year, keep in touch by five7pp@gmail.com

Notify me – soft launch date

when launching ?

@swc
This coming April

012-5590872

@MJ
I’m interested, please email me at ceoroom2let@gmail.com
Notify me the soft launch date.
Anyone or agent has more details when launching etc, Please contact me at 016-4141686

@Iambroke
Good that you brought it up but did the developer listen?

I’m interested, pls email detail to ciderblue@yahoo.com or text me at 0124733347. Tq!

I’m interested, pls email detail to meio_00@yahoo.com

I’m interested, pls email detail to cindyghey@gmail.com or contact me for soft launch at 012-4724222.

heard that no action taken by the developer. The gangster contractor still loitering freely and continue asking for “fees”. So think twice before you buy Ideal’s property or else you will be ended up with these issues.

@Flow

What is the package offer by ideal?
Hope ideal offers good price..

pls email details to my email
thx

Please email me for further soft launch

Is it a stadium beside this project?

Another terrible project by ideals…

Gangster developer

Please send me the details. thanks.

Email and update me thanks

Plz pm me for detail ,i am interested in this project

Hearsay that one of the owners of Ideal property is the sibling of those contractor of renovation..So, what makes you think that Ideal will stop that for you since everyone needs to renovate their house…The only thing that matters is if the contractor charges you reasonable price for renovation works or not…Of course, being limited in choice also makes people pissed off…Haha..Siblings must take good care of each others mah…

is that too close to aircraft take off path? what s the height? imagine if future air traffic will be heavier and airport is going to expand further..

Better don’t buy if yoy have concern.

Send me details, thank you.

Pls email or contact me when it soft launch or launch

engchun@hotmail.com

Plz email when it is soft launch or launch

pantoprazole@gmail.com

Iambroke :
Fyi, get to know All project from Ideal Property, upon completion there will be gangster contractor force you to take up their renovation service or else need to pay so-call “sampah fee”. They charge ridiculous price. Many owner of Ideal Property is facing this issue, and the developer didn’t help to solve this issue, worst still allowing them to set up a booth in the building. So think twice before make the choice to buy their project.

Gangster contractor is an issue or maybe norm which penang authorities are not able to manage as well.

Please PM me when the soft launch or launching.
thanks.

test_solution@yahoo.com

Pls pm me during soft launch..

Testing_problem@yahoo.com

Anyone know when is the launch date?

Is this project soft launched already?

Min 1mil with launching crowed units >2000 planned units, do you fool enough to go in ?

@Praveen

I will not. How about you?

H@Praveen
So cheap.. Anytime also no problem..

Ideal looking for water fish to buy .. ha ha

Heard the sales people telling customers to register for Phase 2. Say overwhelming response.

Only Fool rush in for RM1000/sq

mayb many water fish here :))
@LOL

lol u guys still water fish here and there, all sea view unit sold out, may be u will be my next water fish later, haha late bird no food eat, pg alot rich ppl, 2k psf I think also sapu in 1 week.

I am not water fish therefore I not going at all. I have the money but I will spent elsewhere.

Serious question . Can baystar owners sue for lost of sea view?
Can’t imagine buying a house whose best selling point is access to unimpeded sea view being lost.

Is there such thing as a Claude in snp mentioning unimpeded view to etc etc. There by blocking future development in front of it ?

@water fish

Really? Sold out so fast? Damn… I missed.

@water fish

Early worm will be eaten by bird.

Freehold or leasehold?
Residential or commercial tittle?

@Ivan555
Sue wat? In SNP got stated any exclusive seaview for baystar onwer when they buy?

@Big fish

I mean in general.
Let’s say you bought a place and one of the consideration is its not surrounded by other high rises and you can still have a nice view of the mountains.

Can you sue a developer that built another high rise that blocked your nice view of the mountains?

Same applies to Queens residences. Currently owners will have nice sea view. If in future land reclaimed and in front another high rise. Can Queens residences owners sue for lost of view?

@Aya
freehold and residential for shoplot that is not open to sell and manage by Ideal…..

@MJ
still got lah how come sold out…..just need prepare your RM20K cheque

Heard that many bought this as retirement home.

@Ivan555

Of course can sue, but whether you win or lose is another matter.
There is no law against this.

@Ck
actually only those units facing the sea may experience depreciation in value. Those units facing Queensbay may instead enjoy an appreciation !

Aya :
Freehold or leasehold?
Residential or commercial tittle?

Freehold
Residential

@Lovely Lace

why?

Residential title? The front counter girl told me to pay 20k as booking fee to SAN & Associates. As I know now no stakeholder sum should be collected for project under controlled by HDA.

@ppng

Apreciation in terms of market value bro.

Arnold :
@ppng
Apreciation in terms of market value bro.

@Arnold

Just curious why did he/she said seaview will depreciate and qbay appreciate

@Ong

Ong :
Residential title? The front counter girl told me to pay 20k as booking fee to SAN & Associates. As I know now no stakeholder sum should be collected for project under controlled by HDA.

yes, they said residential…. I also questioned them how they managed to get residential even with shop at gnd and 1st floor…..

@ppng

Mixed use land kut..

Where is the sales office? Still have unit available?

Vertiq 800psf too. Can consider there if you have the same budget.

@Vertiq

metro east (vertiq) also good, but qbay area better….

@ppng

Yes, agreed. W/o nearer to TNB.

Wow ! RM 1100 per sq ft….1.82 million Ringgit for 1650 sq ft… I rather put my money in a bank and collect rm 7000 per month….
Also scared of sinking land….

the main concern is the building is it anti vibrate……
i still remember last few years Indonesia earthquake and queensbay mall shaking very seriously…
if their buidling still build like normal house structure very fast will see the side effect.

Heard that this Sat, apparently only invited guests able to view the layout and choose their units. Not yet open to public for booking. No invite no chance to view. Anyone can confirm this?

My friend received SMS for the preview. Maybe I should use his name since he is not going.

Just seen the show room this morning. Material quite ok (tiles, batch room, sliding door, window frame etc.). Book now & sign snp by 1st quarter of 2017. Estimated completion by 2021. Free legal fee for snp, free kitchen cabinet with H&H, 2-3 car parks, rental subsidy 20-30K, free maintenance fee for first 2 years, maintenance fee + sinking fund 0.33 psf.

@Penangite
Dear Penangite, i was not invited too. I just syiok-syiok walked in & made the booking.

@Penangite
they will send the sms to previous customer for their preview first.

@haha
Please share the info here. Ideal acts very secretive for this project. Or they always very secretive for every new projects?

interested in this project.
anyone can provide more detail on project and soft launch.
please email test_solution@yahoo.com
0154609573
thanks.

I heard seaview unit almost fully booked…. city view (qbay view) still have many…. not sure city view good or not….

anyone knows what is the plan for the empty land (currently car park)…. this land belongs to CP land

Testing…

Testing

Testing 1 2 3

Who do you think is paying for the international Sports Arena which consists of the swimming pool and velodrome? Its definately costed in the price of the condo units? Price too high lah .Definately no Anti Vibrate , otherwise they would have marketed that idea…18 units per tower….heavily congested….

Price too high? pls check the seafront project like The Light Waterfront by IJM and Bay Residences by Ivory. See what their selling price is for today? And we are talking about this project completion by 2021, what you think the property price would be by then?
the International Sports Arena should be facilities built for State gov. It cannot put as under Condo facilities or the maintenance cost will be too high to bear. The cost would of course pay by Ideal Group that been developing so many projects for these years. So to say it costed in the Queens Residences condo project is inaccurate. I would see this as part of pay back to society from Ideal, afterall if they make money in housing, there is very good for them to offer something back.

Anti Vibrate features is according to law requirements in construction building. Malaysia not consider within the zone that direct impacted by earth quake eg. Japan.

sorry typo…18 units per floor per tower.. wonder how many lifts service these units…

wow…penang is catching up a most livable city to stay…according to my view :p

not good for investment.
seaview unblock one, wil cause min 1mil++ (only 1400sf and 1650sf have unblocked seaview)
1200sf will have partial seaview (blocked) cost min 1.03mil (about 858/sf)

facing QBM will be smaller unit 1000 and 950sf which generally around 800/sf but will have afternoon sun.

the garden unit didn’t launch yet.
confirm with sales lady is freehold residential title (don’t curse me if not true)

950/1000/1200 will come with 2 rooms only, 1200 will come with study room without door.
will post up the layout if allowed.

not much facilities to mention but 0.33sen for maintenance will be expensive, ie 950sf pay 313.50 doesn’t include sinking fee.

only have 4 lift to service each floor, will have 20 floors if not mistaken.
1-2 is commercial units
3-5 is carpark
6-20 is units

maybe just me, I prefer 1200sf units but for 1.03mil (lowest one) I could buy one landed unit at Batu Maung and travel there daily for the seafront and don’t need to pay for maintenance fee too.

don’t curse me if any misinformation

Sking,

Can you send me the layout in email address— jackyclong@hotmail.com

thks

sking :
not good for investment.
seaview unblock one, wil cause min 1mil++ (only 1400sf and 1650sf have unblocked seaview)
1200sf will have partial seaview (blocked) cost min 1.03mil (about 858/sf)
facing QBM will be smaller unit 1000 and 950sf which generally around 800/sf but will have afternoon sun.
the garden unit didn’t launch yet.
confirm with sales lady is freehold residential title (don’t curse me if not true)
950/1000/1200 will come with 2 rooms only, 1200 will come with study room without door.
will post up the layout if allowed.
not much facilities to mention but 0.33sen for maintenance will be expensive, ie 950sf pay 313.50 doesn’t include sinking fee.
only have 4 lift to service each floor, will have 20 floors if not mistaken.
1-2 is commercial units
3-5 is carpark
6-20 is units
maybe just me, I prefer 1200sf units but for 1.03mil (lowest one) I could buy one landed unit at Batu Maung and travel there daily for the seafront and don’t need to pay for maintenance fee too.
don’t curse me if any misinformation

Thanks Sking. Your informations are correct which is freehold. I have same preference with u to book the 1200sqft, about RM870 psf for higher floor. Looking forward more on this project.

@sking

950sf still available? I prefer 950sf with two rooms, just nice.

I think 950 sf unit facing qbay not bad even though with evening sun…. there are only few projects in penang which are walking distance to shopping mall… Furthermore, the location is very close to FTZ…. For evening sun, you can install aircond anytime and pay a bit higher of TNB bill…..

I think 950 sf unit facing qbay not bad even though with evening sun…. there are only few projects in penang which are walking distance to shopping mall… Furthermore, the location is very close to FTZ…. For evening sun, you can install aircond anytime and pay a bit higher of TNB bill…..

the price for qbay facing also comparable to PWC price and upcoming waterside residence (the light)…

cheaper than tbr…any furnishing thrown in?

then again, looking at the 1st post about the gangster contractor, heart shrinks a bit especially for high class project.

@Flow

free airocnd and kitchen cabinet….

Fiera Vista Resident :
Just seen the show room this morning. Material quite ok (tiles, batch room, sliding door, window frame etc.). Book now & sign snp by 1st quarter of 2017. Estimated completion by 2021. Free legal fee for snp, free kitchen cabinet with H&H, 2-3 car parks, rental subsidy 20-30K, free maintenance fee for first 2 years, maintenance fee + sinking fund 0.33 psf.

How about air con?

Forgot to ask them kooi liap aircond provided? Downlight in showroom provided?

@tehka
Total a/c is one for living and total number of rooms

@chong @ppng
Anyone of you get a unit? How may being sold?How is the response?

@wsg

Almost sold out. Better be quick.

I also prefer it near QBM if I need to pay 761k (min) for 950k then I choose to stay in Arena for 600k for 1500sf and travel every weekend.
it is not like I will visit QBM everyday.

btw forget to mention, every floor upward will be 5k added.
the unit will come with 2×2 tiles, 1200sf will have wood flooring for study room and both bedrooms.
3 aircon for 950sf, 100sf and 1200sf.
all things in both toilets will be include (like partition glass, water heater, mirror, basin) other please help to confirm, that what the sales lady told me though

a lot of ppl there last Saturday, but not sure how many buying though

I believe city view still available. For Seaview, unless you had kangtao, you have zero chance to get even if you are first in queue

Ideal :
@wsg
Almost sold out. Better be quick.

Dont tua kang la. Got so fast bo

@Mainland4u

don’t believe me? go see for yourself la

Nobody ever considers the risks and health hazards of living under a flight path and near the TNB station?

how many units in total?

Ideal :
@Mainland4u
don’t believe me? go see for yourself la

No true lah!!

Seaview no big deal lah. Everyday look at the same thing also boring lah. As for rental, there are also plenty of seaview condos left vacant, cannot be rented out. So what’s the big deal about sea view?? It’s nice to have, but bodoh to pay too much for it.

@kamolan

Please share your view on which project, view and floor you think is the best. Thanks.

Whether seaview is worth or not worth.. this question is not important at all, unless you have kangtao, you can’t get it even if it is important to you. That’s what I trying to say

There must be a reason why seaview units are so laku …

Aiyoyoyoyo!!!!

BSG staffs all have damn bad manners! The worst of the worst sales team out there!

Shout out to those BSG rude staffers! DON’T WANT TO WORK, NOBODY FORCE YOU TO WORK! DON’T SHOW AN ASS FACE TO EVERY CUSTOMER WHO WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR TO ENQUIRE BSG PROJECTS!

Just to add, BSG projects are nothing to be proud of… i don’t see anything special with their projects. quality wise, so so nia laaa!!

@Ideal

What is the package they are offering? They are open to us to buy now?

@FUNNYGAMES

HELLOO??? Queens developer is Ideal, not BSG. You sure you’re at the right blog????

@tehka
3 biji aircond for 2 rooms
4 biji aircond for 3 rooms

@FUNNYGAMES
lost in the world….

Kindly provide more info/details for the above project.. i’m interested and plan to get one unit.. thanks..

just went to their showroom at ideal office and seem like they are selling>800K for 950sqft. the agent also very sombong!!!

@kia su

Still have many units available?

kia su :
just went to their showroom at ideal office and seem like they are selling>800K for 950sqft. the agent also very sombong!!!

Not only this project, their stuffs all the while also.very sombong.

@Taugi
My guess you are one of them. So sorry to hear you cannot afford.

The issue is Ideal staff really behave like pasar malam, no PR at all. I screw them 1 time during my 1st visit to their bayan baru sale office.

Good luck to those planning to invest in this project

Is this location directly along flight path? Anyone can confirm?

What are u implying

@Taugi

And we do not need ftz engineers come to our good neighborhood of Tanjong T. Sg ara more suitable for them…

This is getting out of hand..and I see this in other properties forum as well.

I think we could all behave and be civil in our discussions. This is a great place for Penangites to discuss our interest in properties and we should be able to do it with respect for each other.

No matter u stay in T. Tokong, Sg Ara, Georgetown, Balik Pulau, mainland, or wherever in Penang, we’re all Penangites and proud of the place we live in or grew up.

Let’s not mock or insult each other for their jobs or location, but just be happy that we have this great place we can live in and use this place as a positive and informative discussion.

tt :
@Taugi
And we do not need ftz engineers come to our good neighborhood of Tanjong T. Sg ara more suitable for them…

Have to admit you are right…

Has anyone in this forum already booked a unit?

Not me… not worth the price…for a little bit of seaview….

Thx for responding, Timothy. My thought is slightly different, sea view not the only reason, but the location and the waterfront concept. Just like the same in other countries, waterfront residential cum commercial always has high rental value. Or, can be used as weekend or retirement home :). Guess, perhaps I will go for it.

Heard still got a lot unit to let go?

Phase 1 fully booked. Open registration for phase 2 this week at StarProperty Fair.

Ideal told me queenbays facing units still avail for phase 1

@Celina
What about sea-facing units?

Amy, I was told there’s still one lower floor unit avail, facing direct to the sea, 1.8M.

I believe that would be the 1650 sqft unit with full sea view.
950/1000 sqft with partial seaview I believe should be taken up already

Tehka, right. What left for the mentioned size are those facing evening sun.

Surprisingly, bigger units with better view and no afternoon sun are booked out first. As what I understood, the purchasers are mostly local penangites with deep pockets, most of them are seasoned investors.

I booked a partial seaview 950sf unit, at ~900psf after discount. I love the location, that’s the main motivation, follow by freehold, residential title, and 2 car parks.

Same price Iam paying can only buy a medium size in Bayswater or summer place, which I think is reasonable.

Wbst, we booked an unit of 1200sf facing pool with partial seaview. Like the waterfront concept as well as the surrounding amenities, close to ftz, in addition to the few points you mentioned.

Ya among all, those bigger size,with full sea view are sold like a hot cake. Imagine condo of this price is almost sold out in less than a month.

@Celina
challenge now is on the financial consolidation to prepare for the signing of snp next year, at least there is still time buffered in between.

@Wbst
May I know what kind of discount that Ideal offered to your unit? Coz As far as I know, besides the official statement that shown black and white in developer’s marketing brochure, there is no unit price discount, even for early bird’s bookings.

Ya, didn’t get any discount too

Iam again surprise that you guys are not aware of the package:

1) free kitchen cabinet with hood, hob, oven
2) free 2 car parks up to 1400sf. 1650sf with 3.
3) free legal and disbursement for spa n loan
4) rental subsidy, eg 950&1000sf = 20k.
5) free 2 years mnt fees
6) free air conds
7) cash rebate: 5% upon first 10%, 10% during 2(a), and further 3% during 2(b)

at the end the package works out to be pretty attractive, I would think it’s at least comparable, if not better than STP or The light waterfront. I seriously failed to pin point any disadvantage of this project, except the final selling price in psd which can be bit subjective.

@Wbst

hi wbst thanks for your respond, all you pointers are aligned with my understanding except point 7
can you further elaborate on “7) cash rebate: 5% upon first 10%, 10% during 2(a), and further 3% during 2(b)” , does it mean discount only for first 10% buyer?

@Wbst
What is 2(a) & 2(b)? are u referring to development progress?
Free Stamp duty as well?
Any partial seaview like your unit still available?Which floor u took?

hopefully Ideal do this waterfront project successfully, else no way they can compare with The Light / STP. Don’t be another screwed PWC.

But I a bit skeptical about their speed, too fast. This year start reclaim, next year start building. Wow!

At rm1000/sft for sea view I wouldn’t buy this project. It does not make investment sense. Number 1 it is not STP. It is more of a local area and not an expat area. Furthermore, even Gurney drive is a better choice at this price. To claim this location is better than STP is just delusional at best. According to statistics and property search engine database websites, Tg Bungah and Tg tokong are the most sought after place in Penang. Based on facts and statistics.

@Lol

Quayside with full sea view cannot sell now. Don’t know who is delusional.

@Lol
Which statistics & property search engine database that I can refer?

@Tuck

Quayside already cannot sell, this Queens Res mah even worse!!

@sylvia

STP investors sure die die say STP is the best one la. No need to argue.

sylvia :
@Tuck
Quayside already cannot sell, this Queens Res mah even worse!!

Typical STP supporter’s comment.

Tg. Tokong is history. Quayside totally “Dead”.

so many IDEAL supporters….LOL

enjoy the free gangster contractor service once OC, IDEAL’s property culture !!

@Teoh
This is why their package is include kitchen build up……..
so your room can buy the complete build good enough……

This is my third property purchased from ideal. No issue with the so called gangster contractor, can just ignore.

Well…all units come partially furnished. Kitchen and bathrooms are already done up, air-cons are already given, there shouldn’t be anything major you want to do to meet the basic requirements other than moving in the furniture. Therefore, why should there be worry about gangster contractor?

@sophia
Upon signing of the SnP, normally you will have to pay 10% of the purchase price. However in this case, you only have to pay 5%.

The price stated in the flyer was discounted price. The selling price is among the highest in that area. Even Baystar also can’t beat Queens Residence before it get block.

@Lam

TBR should be the highest but their units are small.

I do not have confidence on IDEAL’s land reclaimation works. They are in-famous for cost cutting / cut corner in all their previous projects.

Good luck.

@Khor

No wonder they price their project so competitively. Which contractor do they use to reclaim the land for Queens Waterfront?

Here better than Tg. Tokong.

@Khor

Which developer good in reclamation work then?

Here better than Tg.Tokong.

I have same concern over quality of reclamation project that Ideal first time handling, turn out the reclamation will done by outside contractor named “See Song & Sons Sdn Bhd”. the website stated that they are specialist reclamation contractor established since 1961. Anyone know this company background and reputation?

@Khor

You are talking about One Resident or One Imperial?

@Tan
TBR stand for?

@ppng

The value of the baystar units would be benchmarked against the sale price of Queeswaterfront. Surely appreciate lah ! Only those whose view are blocked may suffer some depreciation

@Lovely Lace

all baystar units will be blocked by queens waterfront right. anyway, i think baystar price will not depreciate as it is freehold and walking distance to queens bay mall. maybe have limited appreciation only. I am not sure about you guys, but I believe having a condo walking distance to established mall is very good. Gen-Y like it very much.

@ppng

No not all will be blocked as there are units facing queensbay and do not have existing seaview anyway. Overall it wont depreciate much as you have mentioned even for those that are going to be blocked by Queenswaterfront.

@Lovely Lace
I was referring to the units that facing seaview, not qbay view.

Anyway, how is the performance of the baystar unit that facing evening sun (facing queensbay)? is the capital appreciation ok?

@ppng

Not quite sure about which units are facing the sun as I dont live there but I have a friend whose unit is facing Qb which he bought for RM400k++ but now easily worth 750k to 800k

@Lovely Lace

Easily? Got buyer or not?

Will queens waterfront have a pokes top?

how is the take up rate so far

very quiet here… lack of interest ?

Phase 1 already fully booked..! Phase 2 launching in Q1 2017
for those managed to book a unit…congrats because phase 2 will surely higher price

Queens Buyer :
Phase 1 already fully booked..! Phase 2 launching in Q1 2017
for those managed to book a unit…congrats because phase 2 will surely higher price

non seaview (facing queensbay) unit also fully booked?

Since don’t have chance to buy phase 1, then lets wait for phase 2.

How about Ideal project Forest Ville?

Any 1 would like to purchase a unit of Queens Residence? I would like to let go. You could contact gonggonggong@1235@gmail.com

Snp normally actual price or discounted price.

Fully book your head lah.

There is still 950sft unit for sale, I just asked. Facing QB mall, below rm 800k pricing.

Market is soft nowadays.

@Queens Buyer
Lao Sai la…Don’t cheat…still available alot

@Tan
Hi Tan,phase 2 launch already?
I received SMS mention queen resident 2. I wonder what will be the package offer

I bought Phase2 with full seaview and poolview. Rm1000/sf

Bought a unit of Phase 2 with full seaview and poolview too

Also bought phase2 full sea view and pool view. Just wonder when start apply loan.

Queenie… how big is the unit that you got and which floor if you don’t mind me asking.

ZhiYee… should I say hello neighbours in advance? Haha… I guess not so soon as currently Phase 1 just being called to apply loan, if not mistaken just last month. I foraee it’ll be 3rd quarter of the year earliest or even end of the year

Mine is L9-L10, One of the Unit 5-8. The 40 degree with good pool view and seaview. I think this is the best unit. Other have see no pool, have pool no sea.