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Tropicana Bay Residences @ Penang World City

Bayan Mutiara/ 5 February 2013 Leave a comment

Bay Residences, the phase 1A of Penang WorldCity development by Tropicana Ivory Sdn. Bhd. Strategically located within Bayan Mutiara, a new development hub located in the eastern part of the Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu Expressway and in the vicinity of Sungai Nibong. Comprises four 22-storey residential tower, with condominium unit size ranging from 455 sq.ft onwards.

Property Project : Tropicana Bay Residences @ Penang World City
Location : Bayan Mutiara, Penang
Property Type : Residential
Land Tenure : Freehold
No. of Blocks : 4 blocks of condominium
No. of Storey : 22
Built-up Area : 455 sq.ft. – 1,945 sq.ft.
Indicative Price: RM359,900 onwards
Developer : Tropicana Ivory Sdn. Bhd.

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  1. PangCW
    February 25th, 2013 at 14:31 | #1

    hahaha :
    @PangCW
    that is it redi, who ask you follow the crowd. ppl buy you oso buy, already stated it is 615sqfeet, you oso can’t wait jump into it. >500k for 615sqfeet, congratulation !!! hahaha

    Hello! I didn’t follow the crowd, I already have intention to buy that area and studio size. I already did my survey compare with KL and Klang Valley. Pls don’t simply comments base on ur points!

  2. pwc
    February 25th, 2013 at 15:13 | #2

    actually it is good deal for buyers..u pay 5%, and wait 6+mths..if dont like, just show loan reject and get
    refund…buyers basically ‘lock-in’ the price and can always decline later

  3. Jessie
    February 25th, 2013 at 16:13 | #3

    Not good if u r look see look see only. waste everybody time and money.

  4. Penang Homes
    February 25th, 2013 at 16:25 | #4

    pwc :
    actually it is good deal for buyers..u pay 5%, and wait 6+mths..if dont like, just show loan reject and get
    refund…buyers basically ‘lock-in’ the price and can always decline later

    This way may be fun but you lose opportunities….. property investment is no child’s play… be serious…. think rationally and you will reap huge rewards and enjoy a very comfortable retirement…..

  5. Penang Homes
    February 25th, 2013 at 16:26 | #5

    Jessie :
    Not good if u r look see look see only. waste everybody time and money.

    Agree…. most important… you waste your own time which is PRICELESS

  6. islander
    February 25th, 2013 at 17:04 | #6

    Jessie :Not good if u r look see look see only. waste everybody time and money.

    First step of course “look see look see”……
    If really like it then go for next step…..
    Let’s walk before flying….

  7. kotun
    February 25th, 2013 at 17:40 | #7

    For people who are buying. I have a chat with my banker, and he told me that by law, they MUST refund the 5k if you don’t want it. This is the case, since something is not solve yet. I could not remember the detail, something like the they haven’t got the approval or something.

    Sounds like flipping anyone…? wink wink…

  8. islander
    February 25th, 2013 at 18:15 | #8

    @kotun
    Is it the project approval from MPPP?

  9. Pwc
    February 25th, 2013 at 18:51 | #9

    This ‘game’ is common…buyers book unit (some multiple), and look see look see whether project is well received, then decide later…eg. If block e later is 900psf, I am sure many will not let go blk a and b, but if blk e is say priced at 600psf, I am sure buyers will cancel the booking…in fact if u have capacity for the5% deposit, u can book multiple units and decide later..I am not saying its fair but sometimes this happens

  10. tomyam
    February 25th, 2013 at 20:40 | #10

    @kotun

    teoratically yes.. but if it really happens, the process of getting back the 5k will not be so smooth if you not able to show 2 reject bank loan. since this is the ivory person verbally told me need to have 2 reject bank loan, i am starting thinking the worst case scenario, how to make sure the bank 100% reject you.
    the terms of reject/unapproved also very scary. if bank approved your loan by giving you 70% , 80% loan is still consider an offer and not reject.

    will need to spend time and may be $$ to get some people help to get it back.

    one of the loan officer told me they know the rules and regulation very much and know what is the customer right, but normally they wont tell u too much as those developer is also their customer, if they blacklist the bank/loan officer, he will be hard to survive in future then.

    i wish all can be smooth, a happy property buying process.

  11. Fabian
    February 25th, 2013 at 21:50 | #11

    How much your guy is paying? Am thinking summerton vs PWC @tomyam

  12. PG Guy
    February 25th, 2013 at 22:49 | #12

    Typically there will be certain amount of buyers pull out last minutes or loan get rejected during final S&P signing. The early buyers rebate is to make it look like you have profited 5-8% on paper and all smiling during the S&P signing. You might want to wish people who drop is less than people who take up later, else your subsales price won’t be so attractive.

  13. Barisucks
    February 25th, 2013 at 23:36 | #13

    tomyam :@kotun
    teoratically yes.. but if it really happens, the process of getting back the 5k will not be so smooth if you not able to show 2 reject bank loan. since this is the ivory person verbally told me need to have 2 reject bank loan, i am starting thinking the worst case scenario, how to make sure the bank 100% reject you.the terms of reject/unapproved also very scary. if bank approved your loan by giving you 70% , 80% loan is still consider an offer and not reject.
    will need to spend time and may be $$ to get some people help to get it back.
    one of the loan officer told me they know the rules and regulation very much and know what is the customer right, but normally they wont tell u too much as those developer is also their customer, if they blacklist the bank/loan officer, he will be hard to survive in future then.
    i wish all can be smooth, a happy property buying process.

    no worries. it’s easy. just ask around how to do it.

  14. tomyam
    February 26th, 2013 at 07:00 | #14

    Fabian :How much your guy is paying? Am thinking summerton vs PWC @tomyam

    mine is 872sf, about 6xxk (avg 750 psf) before discount.
    one of the reason i get pwc is freehold, it depends on own preference. but if dun mind whether it is freehold or leasthold, may be i will grab a unit in putra place as so far some of my friend staying there is happy and their monthly maintenance consider very reasonable in the market. and since there is many unit there, there is more opportunity to get a unit in discount rate.

  15. YumYum
    February 26th, 2013 at 18:12 | #15

    Why so quiet this forum? I tot PWC is very hot?

  16. PenangHomes
    February 26th, 2013 at 19:08 | #16

    Nothing to buy already… mah not hot lo

  17. Cindy
    February 26th, 2013 at 20:13 | #17

    All sold? no more unit?

  18. islander
    February 26th, 2013 at 21:14 | #18

    YumYum :Why so quiet this forum? I tot PWC is very hot?

    417 comments in less than 1 month. Quiet? Nt Hot?

  19. Penang Homes
    February 26th, 2013 at 21:49 | #19

    @islander

    Liked!

  20. PangCW
    February 27th, 2013 at 01:02 | #20

    islander :

    YumYum :Why so quiet this forum? I tot PWC is very hot?

    417 comments in less than 1 month. Quiet? Nt Hot?

    Liked!!!

  21. Ye
    February 27th, 2013 at 09:21 | #21

    This morning the stench from the river (longkang?) is just unbearable!
    But it happens only once in a bluemoon. :)

  22. Penang Homes
    February 27th, 2013 at 09:31 | #22

    Ye :
    This morning the stench from the river (longkang?) is just unbearable!
    But it happens only once in a bluemoon.

    Extra value for money…. free smell from the sea…. yea

  23. ST
    February 27th, 2013 at 10:14 | #23

    Ye :
    This morning the stench from the river (longkang?) is just unbearable!
    But it happens only once in a bluemoon.

    Blue moon And Full moon !!!

  24. fisherMan
    February 27th, 2013 at 21:24 | #24

    Can anyone comment/rate on this developer IVORY based on their past records?

  25. Penang Homes
    February 28th, 2013 at 09:17 | #25

    How about track records of Tropicana

  26. Messy
    February 28th, 2013 at 11:12 | #26

    Heard positive comments about Ivory from a past purchaser who works in press.

    Did not hear any negative comment about Tropicana so far.

    But I would not be surprised to hear negative things about them from past buyers. Even when I look at SP Setia’s product, I have my negative views. YTL, lagi worse. Its quality of material is much worse.

    I kind of like Bayswater, can they beat it?

  27. jelly
    February 28th, 2013 at 11:31 | #27

    There is nothing special or attractive about the bay residence development itself, in terms of facilities, view, design, unknown factor in quality etc. I believe there are more new projects in the island currently which can match the standard. However, what trully distinguish Bay residence from others are the location, and also the future development.

    Location wise is strategic – in between both bridge, very good accessibility through highway and no major jam problem. It is a seafront project – exclusiveness is there, and the neighbourhood is good. There is going to have a bicycle route in near future.

    Future development wise there is going to have a mall, seafront park, medical centre and etc, will be very convenient. Dun forget that queensbay and the light waterfront are just next to the door-step, this are the add-ons. Youngers nowadays going for lifestyle living, and this projects fits into the description.

  28. Jay
    February 28th, 2013 at 13:04 | #28

    jelly :
    There is nothing special or attractive about the bay residence development itself, in terms of facilities, view, design, unknown factor in quality etc. I believe there are more new projects in the island currently which can match the standard. However, what trully distinguish Bay residence from others are the location, and also the future development.
    Location wise is strategic – in between both bridge, very good accessibility through highway and no major jam problem. It is a seafront project – exclusiveness is there, and the neighbourhood is good. There is going to have a bicycle route in near future.
    Future development wise there is going to have a mall, seafront park, medical centre and etc, will be very convenient. Dun forget that queensbay and the light waterfront are just next to the door-step, this are the add-ons. Youngers nowadays going for lifestyle living, and this projects fits into the description.

    Liked!

  29. LY
    February 28th, 2013 at 13:09 | #29

    @jelly

    I only heard from the sales that they are planning a medical center but no other commercial property. All will be high rise condo. Maybe need to verify that again with Ivory or else invest into wrong property.

  30. Chan
    February 28th, 2013 at 13:37 | #30

    Quote, “Nobody can forecast future property prices accurately but we can anticipate and estimate the probability of future prices based on the current situation. If the property was bought in a crisis market, the chances of capital gain is broad based and high. If the property was bought below market price in a highly populated area, you are almost certain in making capital gain.

    If you buy a ready-built matured property which is way below the brand-new high priced property nearby, you have almost certainly made money.

    On the other hand, if you buy property in an over supplied high-rise residential property, you are almost certain of future capital depreciation. If you buy an over supplied high-end landed residential property in a middle and lower income area, you are almost certain of capital depreciation.”

    I think Bay Residences is at “over supplied high-rise residential property” category.

  31. pwc
    February 28th, 2013 at 13:45 | #31

    @jelly liked!

  32. Bryan
    February 28th, 2013 at 14:24 | #32

    @Chan

    Unless something spark it up, otherwise over supply will always remain as over supply for years.

    Btw, since 2000 Pg already have excess residential unit (excess ~100K units), I take it as over supply.

  33. jelly
    February 28th, 2013 at 15:27 | #33

    @LY
    Phase 1 is purely residential. But there shall be commercials in the upcoming phases. Qouted from the Dijaya website:

    “Contemporary Seafront Commercial Animated by Leisure Space
    The iconic look of the commercial tower is the bedrock of a new central business district in Penang WorldCity. Wrapped by a seafront promenade and peppered with lifestyle retail outlets and alfresco retail space, this exhuberant business hub will also have convention centres, international school, wellness centres, and high end international hotel chains to elevate the status and prestige of Penang WorldCity.

    Meticulously Planned Development Propels a Healthy Lifestyle

    Mindful of the impact of too soon, too much progress, the planners have included a generous leisure and recreational space to the master plan of Penang WorldCity in an effort to encourage wholesome interactions and activities. Facilities include a vast man-made lagoon, designated pedestrian, vehicle and bicycle lanes, proposed public infrastructure, landscaped boulevards and arenas for cultural exchanges.

    Island Charisma Meets Cutting-Edge Architecture

    A sublimely beautiful seafront development with residential, commercial and leisure precincts, Penang WorldCity seeks to embrace and celebrate the cultural importance and seafront beauty of Penang island, creating a vibrant and exciting development that not only delivers high business and investment value but also a wholesome lifestyle by providing vehicle-free public spaces for leisure and cultural exchanges”

  34. sjt
    February 28th, 2013 at 15:46 | #34

    The term “Over-Supply” can be subjective. If you are using an average statistical data by nation or state this will never be accurate. Take Penang as an example, the state itself consists of the Island, and the vast mainland. The over-supply in the state does not imply that the island is facing this tussle. Penang island houses the capital georgetown, heritage enclave, offers better job oppurtunity, infrastructure and lifestyle such as leisures and convenience. People flock into the island to enjoy all these features, everybody wants to own a piece of property here. Furthermore there is a scarsity of land in the island right now, as accredited from the poor urban planning and the love&passion of our environmentalist, it is not logical to say that the island will run into over-supply situation now or future.

  35. sjt
    February 28th, 2013 at 16:02 | #35

    There was also a saying of over-supply of residential property in KLCC , Sri Hartamas and Mont Kiara some years back, but up to now i don’t see the price drops at all. I strongly believe that as long as the location is tip-top, the demand will always be there. Rental may stumbled a bit, but long term appreciation is almost guaranteed. Most of the investors in singapore dun even care about the rental return, as their appreciation rate is good enough to cover everything.

    Coming back to Penang, take Bayswater as an example, this is one of the most appreciative condo project in the island so far. Apart from being built by the reputable developer, what keeps it going is the location – good accessibility, hypermarket (tesco), and e-gate, these are the lifestyle-living as commented by somebody earlier.

  36. Chan
    February 28th, 2013 at 16:23 | #36

    @jelly

    I hope you are right. The sales at Bayan Mutiara said only condo will be built here. I think Ivory should built a model to show the whole plan to buyers. Something like The Light.

  37. 元肖日
    February 28th, 2013 at 18:50 | #37

    Developers are not stupid.
    Commercial properties have better profit margin. They will build the crowd thru residential, then launch the commercial units when the residential is matured.

    Don’t you think so?

  38. Chan
    February 28th, 2013 at 20:12 | #38

    @元肖日

    Time Square not a good example, the shoplots next to Summerplace also dead. How come the commercial properties at good location still can’t survive? So far only QBM and Gurney being managed well.

  39. Jay
    February 28th, 2013 at 20:27 | #39

    QBM and Gurney belongs to capital land that’s why it is well managed.

    I think if Dijaya would not built a mall, it should be sustainable because they can depend on berjaya group companies to fill up majority of the lots, like what happen to tropicana mall

  40. Truth
    February 28th, 2013 at 20:46 | #40

    @Jay

    Why not depend berjaya group companies/ associates to fill up majority
    of the lots at PWC ? Sales closed. 100% sold, construction can start right
    away.

  41. Jewel
    February 28th, 2013 at 21:28 | #41

    They have a piece of jewel here. Building malls and many high-rise will return less to the people and themselves. Make full use of the coast, give it ‘oomps’ feeling that ppl need.

  42. see
    February 28th, 2013 at 21:57 | #42

    Went to sales gallery, they have contact for panel bank – Am, Affin, OCBC, maybank.
    Saw some units of 615, 1020, 1302sf from Block A & B back to available.
    according to sales, 3+5% still applicable for Block A & B.

  43. 元肖日
    March 1st, 2013 at 00:41 | #43

    Jay :
    QBM and Gurney belongs to capital land that’s why it is well managed.
    I think if Dijaya would not built a mall, it should be sustainable because they can depend on berjaya group companies to fill up majority of the lots, like what happen to tropicana mall

    QBM & Gurney are mostly for leasing only. Capital Land owns most of the units, that’s why they can impose strict guidelines, penalties, and choose their tenants, hence being able to manage & do so well.

  44. 元肖日
    March 1st, 2013 at 00:46 | #44

    Chan :
    @元肖日
    Time Square not a good example, the shoplots next to Summerplace also dead. How come the commercial properties at good location still can’t survive? So far only QBM and Gurney being managed well.

    Hey, shoplots in Times Square at ask sold out. Ivory has collected the money. Whether biz is good or otherwise not the developer’s problem anymore. That’s why I said develops are smart !

  45. Penanghomer
    March 1st, 2013 at 07:01 | #45

    sjt :
    There was also a saying of over-supply of residential property in KLCC , Sri Hartamas and Mont Kiara some years back, but up to now i don’t see the price drops at all. I strongly believe that as long as the location is tip-top, the demand will always be there. Rental may stumbled a bit, but long term appreciation is almost guaranteed. Most of the investors in singapore dun even care about the rental return, as their appreciation rate is good enough to cover everything.
    Coming back to Penang, take Bayswater as an example, this is one of the most appreciative condo project in the island so far. Apart from being built by the reputable developer, what keeps it going is the location – good accessibility, hypermarket (tesco), and e-gate, these are the lifestyle-living as commented by somebody earlier.

    You may see Bayswater price drop significantly later when the seaview been blocked by highrises on reclaimed land infront later.

  46. Penanghomer
    March 1st, 2013 at 07:05 | #46

    <blockquote cite="#commentbody-117878
    Chan :
    @元肖日
    Time Square not a good example, the shoplots next to Summerplace also dead. How come the commercial properties at good location still can’t survive? So far only QBM and Gurney being managed well.

    Because Penangites like to put all the money to buy residential properties and leave it vacant, no money or kiam siap to shopping/enjoying. Or may be the house price is too expensive until penangites has no more life style…tight up with debt.

  47. penangite
    March 1st, 2013 at 09:02 | #47

    Ivory is a bad developer, look at how penang tines square being manage, even the main tenants jus move out before CNY. The did very little to make it a success and ivory jus dont give a damn. Due to this development failure, I hav lost trust on them on making it big or grandier. They jus dont hav the grade to be on the same par as IJM or even MahSing.

  48. penangite
    March 1st, 2013 at 09:07 | #48

    Penanghomer :
    <blockquote cite=”#commentbody-117878
    Chan :
    @元肖日
    Time Square not a good example, the shoplots next to Summerplace also dead. How come the commercial properties at good location still can’t survive? So far only QBM and Gurney being managed well.
    Because Penangites like to put all the money to buy residential properties and leave it vacant, no money or kiam siap to shopping/enjoying. Or may be the house price is too expensive until penangites has no more life style…tight up with debt.

    What r u talking, how can u compare a shopping complex shoplot with 3 storey shoplot. Please compare with the same comparison such as 1st avenue with times square and not lot 28. Why not u jus compare with commercial title residential title. Nonsense. .

  49. Chan
    March 1st, 2013 at 09:23 | #49

    @penangite

    IJM is a reputable developer. Lot 28 is sa front promenade with bridge view. I think you and I know why Capital land mall is successful but not those ABC commercial lots.

  50. Chan
    March 1st, 2013 at 09:24 | #50

    元肖日 :

    Chan :
    @元肖日
    Time Square not a good example, the shoplots next to Summerplace also dead. How come the commercial properties at good location still can’t survive? So far only QBM and Gurney being managed well.

    Hey, shoplots in Times Square at ask sold out. Ivory has collected the money. Whether biz is good or otherwise not the developer’s problem anymore. That’s why I said develops are smart !

    Not the developer problem any more. Luckily these words are not coming from Ivory itself.

  51. Penang Lang
    March 1st, 2013 at 13:55 | #51

    I do feel that Ivory try to make Penang Times Square a success, the design not bad and they do decoration & events trying to boost it. However, Ivory’s luck not that good, their project usually not doing that well (The View, Ivory Plaza). Agreed that commercial activities/shoplots cannot do well in Penang, even those Bay Avenue shoplots beside QBM also a lot vacant.

  52. condomana
    March 1st, 2013 at 14:38 | #52

    Hi Bryan,

    You are right. Statistics wise, there is an oversupply of residential properties in Penang. But something that puzzles most is, why is price not dropping? or at least not yet!….:)

    I think there is a few reasons :-

    (1) People have been buying with cheap money in the last few years. It’s not uncommon to hear someone owning a few properties but not staying there nor rented out.
    (2) As long as people can afford to hold, prices would probably remain stable or stagnant (but not dropping).
    (3) It probably takes a recession/crisis kind of situation to bring prices back to match fundamentals.

    It is highly likely that people would start to loose money on properties very soon, loosing not in terms of the value of the properties, but because of all the finance charges behind (legal fees, stamp duties, interest charges etc) when they dispose of their “investment” properties, as evident in recent asking prices for properties for sale.

  53. islander
    March 2nd, 2013 at 14:08 | #53

    Anyone know about the Chow Tat Send & Low lawyer firm? good reputation?

  54. Teng
    March 2nd, 2013 at 14:22 | #54

    Limited units available..

  55. John_70
    March 2nd, 2013 at 20:02 | #55

    More unit to release later… be patient.

  56. Jay
    March 2nd, 2013 at 20:47 | #56

    Anybody who already signed the SnP?

    Wanna check do they specifically mentioned the car park lot? and also the ceiling height?

  57. islander
    March 2nd, 2013 at 21:43 | #57

    @Jay
    come with 1 car park. No detail for layout.
    Need to sign again additional document with the detail layout later.

  58. James
    March 2nd, 2013 at 23:58 | #58

    Is it stated that it come with one free air-con?

  59. Jay
    March 3rd, 2013 at 10:48 | #59

    @islander

    islander :
    @Jay
    come with 1 car park. No detail for layout.
    Need to sign again additional document with the detail layout later.

    Thanks Islander

  60. Falken
    March 3rd, 2013 at 17:00 | #60

    Does anybody know whether their master and building plan already approve or not? Also do they obtained advertising permit? Coz their brochure didn’t even mentioned as compared to other projects brochure like ijm the light.

  61. yapp
    March 3rd, 2013 at 18:50 | #61

    condomana :
    Hi Bryan,
    You are right. Statistics wise, there is an oversupply of residential properties in Penang. But something that puzzles most is, why is price not dropping? or at least not yet!….:)
    I think there is a few reasons :-
    (1) People have been buying with cheap money in the last few years. It’s not uncommon to hear someone owning a few properties but not staying there nor rented out.
    (2) As long as people can afford to hold, prices would probably remain stable or stagnant (but not dropping).
    (3) It probably takes a recession/crisis kind of situation to bring prices back to match fundamentals.
    It is highly likely that people would start to loose money on properties very soon, loosing not in terms of the value of the properties, but because of all the finance charges behind (legal fees, stamp duties, interest charges etc) when they dispose of their “investment” properties, as evident in recent asking prices for properties for sale.

    Agree with you. When to stop property investments in Penang? I think in SouthEast once the price is >500psf it is the right time to stop. In Northern, Georgetown,Gurney,Tg Tokong price >1100psf better stop there

  62. Chan
    March 3rd, 2013 at 22:37 | #62

    @yapp

    Any reason why you use 500psf and 1100psf as your reference? Or all what you want to say is NOW is the time..

  63. 101
    March 4th, 2013 at 15:16 | #63

    simple, because he has backed out from penang properties and want it crash, so he ask you to stop at 500 psf :)

  64. islander
    March 4th, 2013 at 20:11 | #64

    Anyone know when need to show the bank loan reject letter to developer in order to get the refund of the downpayment?
    Any deadline?

  65. CH
    March 4th, 2013 at 20:41 | #65

    I need to know too… Need to get my down payment back!

  66. islander
    March 4th, 2013 at 20:53 | #66

    @CH
    Any reason to drop? What is your unit?

  67. PangCW
    March 4th, 2013 at 23:07 | #67

    The IVORY staff told me you need to write in a letter to withdraw for whtver 14 days before 9mths tht thy will send for stamping.

  68. tomyam
    March 5th, 2013 at 07:14 | #68

    @PangCW

    this will be a problem as they did say final stamping might be in year end, so 9 month before already March. According to the public bank loan officer, they tell me currently they still not accept the loan application for pwc yet as what end of finance for pwc is not yet happen.

  69. tomyam
    March 5th, 2013 at 07:16 | #69

    islander :Anyone know when need to show the bank loan reject letter to developer in order to get the refund of the downpayment?Any deadline?

    have you pre-sign the snp doc and start applying the loan? the bank officer that i call all ask me to wait and will contact me later, say not yet accept the application for pwc project even they are panel bank???

  70. PangCW
    March 5th, 2013 at 07:32 | #70

    tomyam :
    @PangCW
    this will be a problem as they did say final stamping might be in year end, so 9 month before already March. According to the public bank loan officer, they tell me currently they still not accept the loan application for pwc yet as what end of finance for pwc is not yet happen.

    I asked the lawyer firm regarding the loan application process and thy said right now we can only servey for banks although their panel banks. Start applying only after they sent snp for stamping which is around sept time frame.

  71. tomyam
    March 5th, 2013 at 07:40 | #71

    @PangCW

    hmm.. but i have the feeling ivory will try to drag the date for stamping.. as most of their project snp stamping date is dragging… :p

  72. HK
    March 5th, 2013 at 20:10 | #72

    Any unit available?thanks

  73. 101
    March 5th, 2013 at 21:55 | #73

    PangCW :

    tomyam :
    @PangCW
    this will be a problem as they did say final stamping might be in year end, so 9 month before already March. According to the public bank loan officer, they tell me currently they still not accept the loan application for pwc yet as what end of finance for pwc is not yet happen.

    I asked the lawyer firm regarding the loan application process and thy said right now we can only servey for banks although their panel banks. Start applying only after they sent snp for stamping which is around sept time frame.

    wrong, you apply now even without the snp stamping
    after you know you can get loan, then only you sign snp
    you can save yourself a lot of hassle

  74. pg gal
    March 6th, 2013 at 02:00 | #74

    Chow Tat Seng & Low are the brother-in-law & sister to Ivory’s boss & Techware’s boss.

  75. tomyam
    March 6th, 2013 at 06:54 | #75

    @101

    Do you know which bank is open for the loan application for PWC?

    So far i have ask public, hong leong and ocbc a weeks ago and all tell me wait, they need to wait ivory release more detail and end finance of pwc done then open for us to apply…
    maybank say they can let we apply another ad hoc housing loan but not the normal process..
    in this case, we are not able to confirm our bank loan approvel before the pre-sign process…

    anyone already sign it? i ask some of my friends and they tell me the laywer firm not yet call them to pre-sign?

    any info to share on any way to get the loan approval by only the booking receipt? thanks

  76. tomyam
    March 6th, 2013 at 06:55 | #76

    @pg gal

    Is techware the developer of putra place?

    wow.. all of them satu family!!!

  77. islander
    March 6th, 2013 at 08:11 | #77

    @tomyam
    Already signed pre-snp. Lawyer said will stamp end of this year.

  78. 元肖日
    March 6th, 2013 at 08:35 | #78

    Pre-signed more than 2 Weeks ago

  79. 101
    March 6th, 2013 at 08:50 | #79

    HK :
    Any unit available?thanks

    no

  80. islander
    March 6th, 2013 at 09:28 | #80

    101 :

    HK :Any unit available?thanks

    no

    Still have some units last week …. Block A, B,C D…
    Just drop by the sales gallery at Bayu Muatiara..

  81. HK
    March 6th, 2013 at 09:55 | #81

    @islander
    Thanks.

  82. PGT
    March 6th, 2013 at 13:44 | #82

    The developer trying to make this project looks like its a hot cake, but its not. The fact that thereis so much units left only show either customer cancel or they pretend those units are sold during launching.

  83. Ah Kong
    March 6th, 2013 at 14:40 | #83

    @HK

    You got it right. I had many comments deleted.They are saying what they
    want to hear that sound musical to their ears.

  84. 101
    March 6th, 2013 at 21:41 | #84

    the better units are really sold out , left bad units

  85. dk
    March 6th, 2013 at 22:08 | #85

    what were the so call bad unit? Mind to share?

  86. Tom
    March 6th, 2013 at 22:10 | #86

    Bad units are those facing west or near to the highway or those too near to the power station.@dk

  87. dk
    March 6th, 2013 at 22:23 | #87

    thanks Tom… where is the power station? I don’t see that on the plan.

  88. islander
    March 6th, 2013 at 22:27 | #88

    101 :the better units are really sold out , left bad units

    What size, which block?

  89. Andy pg
    March 6th, 2013 at 22:50 | #89

    Hai tom the power station is near the block a & b and near the “longkang” ?

  90. Tom
    March 6th, 2013 at 23:02 | #90

    Yes, u r right.@Andy pg

  91. bain
    March 7th, 2013 at 09:05 | #91

    @Andy pg
    Not to worry. It’s a TNB substation and only 3 storeys high i.e. as high as the car park level only and won’t block the view from Block A/Block B.

  92. islander
    March 7th, 2013 at 11:53 | #92

    @bain
    Block B won’t be blocked by the TNB station but Putra marine and putra place (16~18 floor) …

  93. YumYum
    March 7th, 2013 at 11:56 | #93

    That why i bought Block D with above 20 floors. Facing sea (at least for coming 4 years)

  94. Highlander
    March 7th, 2013 at 12:02 | #94

    I cant imaging, this Penang world city + The Light Iconic Waterfront Combination, will chnage Penang City look into a place like Manhatten+PuDong in Shanghai+Singapore’s Marina …… small unit apartment will cost USD 500K or RM 1.5 million.
    Look forward.
    Because of the location, just buy and no regret one. Any unit will do.

  95. bain
    March 7th, 2013 at 12:55 | #95

    @islander
    Agreed, however distance between Block B to Putra Place/Putra Marine not so close (about 300-400m) and separated by the river/canal. If no seaview, still got river/canal view which will be nice provided the embankment is beautified.

    Anyhow, can go up to the 23rd floor viewing deck at Block D to enjoy seaview since this level will be higher than Putra Place/Putra Marine top level.

  96. bain
    March 7th, 2013 at 12:58 | #96

    bain :@islander Agreed, however distance between Block B to Putra Place/Putra Marine not so close (about 300-400m) and separated by the river/canal. If no seaview, still got river/canal view which will be nice provided the embankment is beautified.
    Anyhow, can go up to the 23rd floor viewing deck at Block D to enjoy seaview since this level will be higher than Putra Place/Putra Marine top level.

    Sorry, should be 23rd floor viewing deck at Block B, not Block D.

  97. tomyam
    March 7th, 2013 at 13:42 | #97

    YumYum :That why i bought Block D with above 20 floors. Facing sea (at least for coming 4 years)

    @YumYum

    any idea the 2 block in front of block C and D when will be launch? if it launch just half year down the road.. then will be about the same…

  98. islander
    March 7th, 2013 at 13:43 | #98

    @bain
    I said so because facing direction of the building is the parallel with the canal.
    Anyway, it is good to have roof top viewing deck.

  99. dk
    March 7th, 2013 at 14:38 | #99

    what will be the impact of tnb substation? I understand that people don’t want high power transmittion tower (at least 1km away) but never heard of complain regarding substation…

  100. jack
    March 7th, 2013 at 22:17 | #100

    @dk
    should be no problem as long as not side by side.

  101. Pinang Pisang
    March 8th, 2013 at 06:10 | #101

    islander :
    @bain
    I said so because facing direction of the building is the parallel with the canal.
    Anyway, it is good to have roof top viewing deck.

    What can we do on the rood top viewing deck… at night… nothing to seen……black black…. only…..

  102. tomyam
    March 8th, 2013 at 07:17 | #102

    @Pinang Pisang

    mid autumn day.. all resident playing lantern there… :)
    night view of a city is always very nice.. (assume nothing is block and can at least see seaview or city view)

  103. biscuit
    March 8th, 2013 at 11:02 | #103

    @tomyam
    you can have picnic there too… haha.
    i read one kl project brochure, quite amazing, they even have a big kitchen in the sky deck.

  104. tomyam
    March 8th, 2013 at 11:26 | #104

    @biscuit

    sounds like can having apartment BBQ session…

  105. Highlander
    March 10th, 2013 at 00:51 | #105

    not a good sign, PWC so quiet already ……. tough time ahead.

  106. Pinang Pisang
    March 10th, 2013 at 07:20 | #106

    Penang Island ada terlalu banyak condo…..wait for crashing…..then I picking time to buying

  107. Justin
    March 10th, 2013 at 16:51 | #107

    Anybody sign the SnP?

  108. islander
    March 10th, 2013 at 17:13 | #108

    many signed already… just pre-SnP…

  109. Penang Developer
    March 10th, 2013 at 17:32 | #109

    islander :
    many signed already… just pre-SnP…

    Is this project good?

  110. islander
    March 10th, 2013 at 17:45 | #110

    @Penang Developer
    The location is good and strategic…
    no doubt the price is higher than neighbouring … (future price 3~4y)
    worth or not depends on ppl…

  111. worth?
    March 10th, 2013 at 21:36 | #111

    i am letting go my unit, feel that it is too expensive

  112. islander
    March 10th, 2013 at 22:52 | #112

    @worth?
    so any reason for booking?
    Which block / size?

  113. cm
    cm
    March 10th, 2013 at 23:06 | #113

    @worth?
    Which Block / Floor / Size (number)

  114. HK
    March 10th, 2013 at 23:56 | #114

    @worth?
    Which block & how much?

  115. fisherMan
    March 11th, 2013 at 00:02 | #115

    @worth
    which unit you r having? size?

  116. psy
    March 11th, 2013 at 23:57 | #116

    @worth? i have a 1600sq ft , is it too expensive to pay 1.1 mil for it?

  117. islander
    March 12th, 2013 at 00:06 | #117

    @psy
    If I were you, affordable for 1.1mil units, it is better to go for landed…
    again, your choice…

  118. tomyam
    March 12th, 2013 at 07:06 | #118

    @psy

    If I have that.. i will go for landed too..
    Been to sungai ara one residence before.. also around this price… it is very nice.

    or wait for another face that really confirm have seaview.. then get a unit may be 1020 sf will do : )

  119. Roquefort
    March 12th, 2013 at 07:37 | #119

    rm1.1 million can get you a studio unit at quauside 1100sft partially finished with water park. location also better.

  120. Local Man
    March 12th, 2013 at 08:08 | #120

    tomyam :
    @psy
    If I have that.. i will go for landed too..
    Been to sungai ara one residence before.. also around this price… it is very nice.
    or wait for another face that really confirm have seaview.. then get a unit may be 1020 sf will do : )

    Agree…. Landed will be better at this price range…….scarce category….. pay a bit but peace of mind that it will surely appreciate even during recession…..

  121. tomyam
    March 12th, 2013 at 11:59 | #121

    @Local Man

    Anyway, landed property for own stay or long term investment is good.. if target to get rental will be very poor return.
    recession time landed property price will going down some as well.. like last time i remember pantai jerjak landed price is about 450k during 09 year , i saw that in newspaper. just that they rebound speed is fast.. but again.. their rental is so terribe..

    a friend of mine rent sp setia master bed room for about RM400 only.

  122. Local Man
    March 12th, 2013 at 12:13 | #122

    @tomyam
    Yes… laned low rental is common knowledge…..but then again….landed is scarce… will appreciate much more in future…..condos age and problems like leaking will set in…. quarrels with upstairs neighbour is common as to who should repair……horror neighbours how live directly upstairs or downstairs….. banging floor or roof incessantly….

  123. tomyam
    March 12th, 2013 at 16:56 | #123

    @Local Man

    true also.. sometimes very depends on luck to get a good neighbour…
    just that nowadays.. better get a gate n guarded landed if financial can affort..

  124. Local Man
    March 12th, 2013 at 16:59 | #124

    @tomyam
    True…. minimum guarded for landed properties…..each month about RM100 will be well spent…. do not be stingy….you pay peanuts for guards you will get peanut service…….eat snake all the time……

  125. condomana
    March 12th, 2013 at 17:55 | #125

    Local Man :
    @tomyam
    Yes… laned low rental is common knowledge…..but then again….landed is scarce… will appreciate much more in future…..condos age and problems like leaking will set in…. quarrels with upstairs neighbour is common as to who should repair……horror neighbours how live directly upstairs or downstairs….. banging floor or roof incessantly….

    Wah Local Man, quarrel up and down, banging floor and roof. Very happening loh your neighborhood. May I know which project is that ah?

  126. islander
    March 12th, 2013 at 20:59 | #126

    anyone get the bank loan approval?

  127. tomyam
    March 13th, 2013 at 06:47 | #127

    @islander

    Not yet apply.
    Not even pre-sign the snp yet. Some of my friends not even receive lawyer call to sign n make the 5% payment.

    I will sign on end of this month, probably apply the loan on June.

  128. islander
    March 13th, 2013 at 13:49 | #128

    i have cancelled my booking.

  129. Mok
    March 13th, 2013 at 13:53 | #129

    @islander
    wise decision, well done.

  130. buyer
    March 13th, 2013 at 14:00 | #130

    islander :
    i have cancelled my booking.

    have u collected back your booking fees?

  131. bht
    March 13th, 2013 at 14:47 | #131

    How did u cancel the booking n get back the booking fees?

  132. islander
    March 13th, 2013 at 16:30 | #132

    buyer :

    islander :i have cancelled my booking.

    have u collected back your booking fees?

    Someone use my ID name!!!
    I do not cancel……

  133. fisherMan
    March 13th, 2013 at 19:30 | #133

    so childish la..for whoever did that @islander

  134. CH
    March 13th, 2013 at 21:27 | #134

    islander :
    @CH
    Any reason to drop? What is your unit?

    Just thought that it is not worth it… might be another high dense M Park? no different compare to other development other then expensive and high dense. Anybody get full refund?

  135. CH
    March 13th, 2013 at 21:36 | #135

    Related example is time square. so many block with so many units… scary. what a waste because this is a superb location (i love the location) but another junk in the making by ivory. sorry this is just my thought, please keep to your decision. I hope it turn out to be a dream home for those who decide to buy.

  136. KG
    March 13th, 2013 at 22:48 | #136

    @CH
    I think the price for that location should be ok (in 3-4 yrs). It is not that expensive.
    I do agree with you that Ivory produce high dense development. That make the different between $$$ mind developer vs quality developer, ie IJM, SP Setia…

  137. Tauge
    March 14th, 2013 at 16:53 | #137

    @KG
    Agree. I also observe that Ivory is a greedy type developer. Because Bay residence is a seafront project, the demand may be better than time square after it is complete.

  138. Surrounding
    March 14th, 2013 at 20:14 | #138

    Block A- 455 Sq feet got 2 units released!!
    Any one interested? Fast fast still valid 3%+5%

  139. Alan
    March 14th, 2013 at 20:16 | #139

    Are you sure?
    That will be very good bargain, low entry cost to high end property (less than RM400K) only

  140. PG188
    March 14th, 2013 at 21:13 | #140

    beside free S&P, the package also includes the legal fee of loan agreement and loan stamp duty,right?

  141. Alan
    March 14th, 2013 at 22:37 | #141

    -Free S&P
    -DIBS (Developer Interest Bearing Scheme)
    -Loan Agreement legal fee (You have to pay but you can negotiate with the bank)
    -Ok, basically, if you have RM20K for the 5% during S&P signing, you do not have to worry any payment until you receive the key.

  142. Scorpion
    March 14th, 2013 at 23:03 | #142

    @Alan
    WHAT IF I ONLY TAKE 70% LOAN? Do i need to pay interest?

  143. tomyam
    March 15th, 2013 at 07:12 | #143

    @Surrounding

    Is it means the rest of the small unit 1300 sf unit entitle the 3+5…

  144. PG188
    March 15th, 2013 at 09:19 | #144

    @Alan
    Thanks

  145. Weng
    March 15th, 2013 at 09:47 | #145

    I thought only Block A has 455 sq feet studio, right? Even that also very limited.
    I heard on the first day, already sold out. Early purchasers could not even buy this cheapest unit even Q for many hours. Impossible, no?
    The most affordable also around half a million

  146. tips
    March 15th, 2013 at 10:54 | #146

    @Scorpion
    if you can only take 70% loan, then you will lose out, as you need to pay cash on the pregessive payment for first 30%. Nothing you can do with it.

  147. islander
    March 15th, 2013 at 12:24 | #147

    @Weng
    It is true. I saw 455sq unit are available 2-3 weeks ago…

  148. TheLight_Price_Will_Drop_till_300K
    March 15th, 2013 at 14:53 | #148

    455sqf is very small area, try to find a place with 455 sqft and imagine the stay. There are more than 2 units type 455sqft available when I called yesterday (3+5 is applicable too), and in the beginning they offer 5+5%, try talk to the developer, they can still give 5+5

  149. James
    March 15th, 2013 at 18:10 | #149

    hahahaha…
    You know how people quarrel to get those 455 sq feet on the first day of launching?
    And there are hundreds and hundreds of people buying this PWC, spending at least RM400K to RM1 million. By logic thinking which one is a fool?
    -Hundreds of people who can afford half a million RM apartment or
    _a guy predicting The Light price will drop to RM300K

  150. islander
    March 15th, 2013 at 18:28 | #150

    thinking to change to 455sf unit (Blk A), lower price but it is facing west and main road (noise)…
    any other opinion on 455sf?

  151. TheLight_will_Drop_till_300K
    March 15th, 2013 at 20:53 | #151

    If there is rival for 455 sqft why there are left units now? Think of it after you bought it, not much space to move around. When relatives or friends come visit also need to squeeze. Undecided buyer need to think several days and retreat from sales office even visited few times for 615 sqft or 872 sqft units. Small size with RM400K that’s the technique to lure customers. Kindly enlighten us for the 455 sqft if one have to stay there for future despite the only pro is RM400K. Pls do not divert to the name that I am using. haha. Which unit you purchased in the Light?

  152. cm
    cm
    March 15th, 2013 at 23:44 | #152

    Have any people want cancel their booking at Block A ..

    872ft2 or 1020 ft2 or 1045ft2

    We want take it .. about 4 unit ….

  153. penangboy
    March 18th, 2013 at 00:06 | #153

    My friend want to let the 455 sq ft unit. I still considering whether want to take over the unit. The his reason are:
    1. The unit is too small, suitable for single person. Many people may not interested, very hard to resell or to rent.
    2. His unit is facing highway, may be dusty and noisy.
    3. The future development plan of the entire area is nice but not yet confirmed, it may change.
    4. It is a high density condo, the traffic may be congested.
    5. There is no balcony.
    6. Too expensive (>700 per sq ft and without sea view and balcony) if compared to nearby condos (~500 sq ft). Lease hold or free hold is not his concern.

    Initially, he thought that just paying around RM20k for deposit, he will only need to pay installment after the condo is finished built. At that time, he may sell it at higher price.
    Since the cost of the unit is quite high, he worried that the ROI may not be good.
    If economy crisis strike and no people buy, then this condo will become his greatest burden.

    I’m quite like this unit because:
    1. The strategic location, very near to Queensbay and FTZ.
    2. Free hold.
    3. Great future development plan in the whole area. Hope can become next Strait Quay.
    4. High ROI if no economy crisis and if the studio suite living concept become a trend.
    5. Affordable for me as it is below RM400k. Very difficult to find a nice condo below RM400k in Queensbay area.

    I am really having hard time to do the decision. I also plan to resell it after staying few years. Headache…

  154. islander
    March 18th, 2013 at 00:15 | #154

    Scorpion :
    @Alan
    WHAT IF I ONLY TAKE 70% LOAN? Do i need to pay interest?

    then you are not fully enjoying DIBS. not very good move

  155. pwc
    March 18th, 2013 at 10:48 | #155

    DIjaya recently launched phase 2 of Tropicana Gardens in Kota Damansara (with MRT,leasehold)..the price is about RM1100 psf and fully sold all the small 600sf units!
    They are becoming too confident and may influence their future pricing here..

  156. islander_Ori
    March 18th, 2013 at 13:32 | #156

    @pwc
    If MRT is passing PWC, it will be different storey…

  157. condomana
    March 18th, 2013 at 13:38 | #157

    Hi penangboy,

    Why not buy Putra Place? or Gold Coast?

  158. penangboy
    March 18th, 2013 at 18:47 | #158

    Putra Place and Gold Coast are least hold .

  159. penangboy
    March 18th, 2013 at 18:52 | #159

    In malaysia, is there any condo with 450 sq ft?

  160. tomyam
    March 18th, 2013 at 20:54 | #160

    @penangboy

    jelutong straights garden?

  161. islander
    March 18th, 2013 at 22:39 | #161

    leasehold is bad..don’t buy…cannot sell later

  162. condomana
    March 18th, 2013 at 22:39 | #162

    hi penangboy,

    OK. Assuming they are freehold, would you rather buy Putra Place or Gold Coast?

  163. islander_Ori
    March 18th, 2013 at 23:06 | #163

    @condomana
    I will choose Gold Coast if it is freehold and new project.
    However, its price will be much higher with freehold tenure…..may be match with Baystar…
    What do you say?

  164. cm
    cm
    March 18th, 2013 at 23:56 | #164

    Have any people want cancel their booking at Block A ..

    872ft2 or 1020 ft2 or 1045ft2

  165. tomyam
    March 19th, 2013 at 07:15 | #165

    @cm

    872 sf seems more worth as there is nothing much different between 872, 1020 and 1045. All comes with 1 car park only but the price makes a lot different.
    I wonder developer will start selling extra car park on the coming days or for future higher price buyer.. they come with buy 1 free 1 car park tactic.

  166. cm
    cm
    March 19th, 2013 at 11:17 | #166

    @tomyam

    I agree your point. So, now i just want to find who want to cancel their booking at Block A.

    872ft2 or 1020 ft2 or 1045ft2

    For my view, if we want to get a property at Penang island. This few year is the last change to own it. Don’t say want to wait …….. economy crisis strike … will happen … But, not much effect with property.

    In Malaysia, economy crisis strike happen how many time already. Are the property price come down ??? Not …. the property cost still Increase min 10% per year… Another 10 year, i think in penang the condo property will go to min RM1000/ft2 .. That is the basic estimation.

  167. pwc
    March 19th, 2013 at 13:18 | #167

    the corner unit 1045sf has a large masterbedroom..interesting design and i think only one unit only at some floors

  168. Jj
    March 19th, 2013 at 15:57 | #168

    How is the 1045sqft unit looks like? I didn’t see it in their website or brochure…

  169. cm
    cm
    March 19th, 2013 at 16:13 | #169

    Yes .. i own 1 unit already (1045ft2) … just find another unit again ….

    872ft2 or 1020 ft2 or 1045ft2

    The 1045ft2 i ask from HQ …. Here don’t have ….

  170. Andy pg
    March 19th, 2013 at 16:46 | #170

    @tomyam

    Ivory sale said no sell carpark because carpark 3 lever only ,no place to make carpark..

  171. penangboy
    March 19th, 2013 at 19:36 | #171

    Nowadays, many families have 2 to 3 cars. If park at outside condo, no good.

  172. tomyam
    March 20th, 2013 at 07:11 | #172

    @Andy pg

    Hmmm.. curious why they dun just add another 2 level of car park.. since selling car park is making so much profit by selling empty space in the air…
    If the bus terminal in front of the phase 1A can everyday having shuttle bus to all main factory will be nice

  173. tomyam
    March 20th, 2013 at 07:15 | #173

    @penangboy

    It’s true.. i guess 2 will be just nice.. but sometimes we can’t do nothing if developer dun have extra to sell. This is one of the point i do consider to get a 415 or 6XX sf unit coz only 1 room.. 1 car park will fit.. but they told only those 1300 onwards entitle 2 car parks.. so not worth to get > 872 sf unit if you are from big families.. if for rental may be still can take some little risk that those tenant got company subsidy.. can take taxi everyday.. (which a lot of my foreign colleague from india is currently doing.. most of them rent in putra place n get a taxi everyday.. )

  174. Bryant
    March 21st, 2013 at 16:55 | #174

    @cm

    I have a unit 1020sqft Block B, interested?

  175. cm
    cm
    March 21st, 2013 at 22:27 | #175

    @Bryant
    What is your Block No…..

  176. islander
    March 21st, 2013 at 22:28 | #176

    don’t buy, sinking land with blockage in front view

  177. cm
    cm
    March 21st, 2013 at 22:30 | #177

    @Bryant
    I think is Unit 6 or Unit 8…

    I want is Blok A …

  178. Bryant
    March 21st, 2013 at 23:24 | #178

    @cm

    Thought you might consider Blk B.. It’s unit 02..

  179. islander_Ori
    March 22nd, 2013 at 10:36 | #179

    islander :don’t buy, sinking land with blockage in front view

    Land is sinking????

  180. cm
    cm
    March 23rd, 2013 at 15:12 | #180

    @islander_Ori
    Why you know land is Sinking ?????

  181. islander_Ori
    March 23rd, 2013 at 23:19 | #181

    @cm

    your question to “islander”….

  182. cm
    cm
    March 24th, 2013 at 01:16 | #182

    @islander
    How you know Sinking land ??

  183. penangboy
    March 24th, 2013 at 21:00 | #183

    Studio suite… PWC 455 sqft vs Strait Garden 485 sqft …which more worth it ?

  184. Goreng
    March 25th, 2013 at 13:27 | #184

    @penangboy
    what is the price of SG’s 485sf unit?

  185. Jay
    March 25th, 2013 at 17:31 | #185

    Any idea why all the details on PWC were removed from dijaya website

  186. PG188
    March 25th, 2013 at 22:02 | #186

    @Jay
    The PWC details is still there, why u said is removed from Dijaya website?? http://www.dijaya.com.my/ourprojects/future_penangworld.php

  187. pgborn
    March 27th, 2013 at 00:42 | #187

    just to share on bank loan for those not eligible for 90% due to owning more than one property. you could still enjoy the DIBS fully by putting the difference of 20% value in FD. The bank will pay you the current FD interest rate. However, upon completion of the project, the 20% cannot be redeemed by you but can only be use as your upfront payment i.e. you will then owe the bank on a 70% loan and not 90%. During the 3 or 4 years construction period under DIBS, you will enjoy the FD interest. Otherwise if you pay upfront 30% to the developer, they will enjoys less interest payment to the bank.

  188. tomyam
    March 27th, 2013 at 07:10 | #188

    @pgborn

    is most of the people already start applying loan or need to wait till June only apply?
    Ivory person told me no need to apply that earlier , probably apply on June as the real sign of snp is on year end.

  189. Jay
    March 27th, 2013 at 09:56 | #189

    PG188 :
    @Jay
    The PWC details is still there, why u said is removed from Dijaya website?? http://www.dijaya.com.my/ourprojects/future_penangworld.php

    The floor plan, the common area plan (2nd, 3rd and 5th Level) were not there anymore

  190. Jay
    March 27th, 2013 at 09:57 | #190

    pgborn :
    just to share on bank loan for those not eligible for 90% due to owning more than one property. you could still enjoy the DIBS fully by putting the difference of 20% value in FD. The bank will pay you the current FD interest rate. However, upon completion of the project, the 20% cannot be redeemed by you but can only be use as your upfront payment i.e. you will then owe the bank on a 70% loan and not 90%. During the 3 or 4 years construction period under DIBS, you will enjoy the FD interest. Otherwise if you pay upfront 30% to the developer, they will enjoys less interest payment to the bank.

    Thanks for sharing

  191. PG188
    March 27th, 2013 at 13:24 | #191

    @Jay
    u r rite, i did not notice on that ..Thanks!

  192. KC
    March 27th, 2013 at 14:00 | #192

    I saw a huge condo model at the sales galary at bayan mutiara last week. very impressive & beautiful. The full name is Tropicana Bay Residence. few units available for 872, 1300 + &1500+ sqft

  193. jason
    March 27th, 2013 at 14:25 | #193

    What a waste… superb location but develop by super high dense developer who is good in making profit only. Don’t believe… check out their previous product.

  194. tomyam
    March 27th, 2013 at 14:57 | #194

    @Jay

    I think before signing the final snp .. there will be “surprise” floor plan again…
    only then buyers need to decide again whether hold or drop …
    may be bigger, smaller etc.
    if choose to drop it.. then you will waste of the interest during this period (as you already place 5 % down payment)..

  195. pgborn
    March 27th, 2013 at 16:00 | #195

    @tomyam
    of course you can start applying for loan prior to snp signing. but better to get banker advice as they are on their panel. i understand developer still has not obtained their ap (advertising permit license) hence, still cannot cannot get bank end financing yet. according to dijaya sale officer, the ap probably will be ready in May and the lawyer will call the buyers to sign the snp and pay up. so meantime fd your money for two more months.

  196. cm
    cm
    March 27th, 2013 at 20:56 | #196

    i already try few bank … ambank, HSBC, public bank …

    All just can get BLR-2,4% only …. Full flexi Loan

    Who can get another better loan …

  197. Ten
    March 27th, 2013 at 21:54 | #197

    @Jay,thanks for sharing.Which bank offers the package as you mentioned,FD and enjoy DIBS..?

  198. Pgborn
    March 28th, 2013 at 08:01 | #198

    @Ten
    Approach Maybank they are on pwc panel.

  199. PG188
    March 28th, 2013 at 09:19 | #199

    abt the car park… is every level of the car park, got lift?

  200. Pgborn
    March 29th, 2013 at 19:03 | #200

    Sure got lifts

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