wbk :Tower “officially” launched last Sat. Not sure how the response. Must be only few units left as always…

I mean Tower 3.

@wbk

You are like real time reporter at the scene ><"

wbk, how did you get the update? you always steps into Ideal office?

wbk :@FireDragon
I trust the aviation industry experts on their assessment and guidelines. The guideline says for airport with air traiffic of less than 500 flights (departure + arrival) per day, noise pollution for houses at 0.8km away from the runway is negligible. If the house is along the flight path, it has to be 4.8km away from the end of the runway.
Actually the min distance is 0.3km, but will have some level of noise if distance is less than 0.8km.
Facts:Fiera Vista is more than 1km away from the runway. Noise is negligible.QBM is 3km away from the end of the runway, but under the flight path. Will have some noise effect from aircraft.Penang airport only have about 130 flights (takeoff + landing) daily. First flight is 7am, last flight is 11pm.Only Cathay and Taiwan use larger aircrafts to Penang, the rest are smaller aircrafts. Cathay only fly once a day, Taiwan airline even less.
Based on my study, aircraft noise should not be a problem when considering to buy FV.

How about Korean Air ? Asiana Air ? Fedex ? These are 747-400 Freighter flight coming in the morning. Not including the afternoon China Airlines, EVA Air carrier in the afternoon.
Taiwan based carrier from Taipei flew in 4 or 2 times per week. Not including the daily China Airlines passenger flight. Please define large aircraft? I suggest you drive across Permatang Damar and see the construction going on and the end of airport runway. This is to cater for even larger configuration towards A380 type of aircraft to land in PEN International airport.
Do further research friend

@beckscum7

I am not sure you should address me as your friend as you sounded very sarcastic.

I am not sure about Permatang Damar. But I guess it is too far away from Fiera Vista, there are from the other side of the runway. All DHL and Fedex facilities are at the other side of the runway, near Batu Maung.

I have a few friends staying at Gold Coast, which experienced daily overhead flight passing above their houses. No complaint so far even though their condo is within the noise contour.

Again, I can only share what I know, either from experience or from the airport design/location guidelines.

Frankly speaking, after you stay for a few months you will immune to the airplane noise already. Try talk to those who stay next to school or mosque. First fews months will get frustrated by the school assembly announcement and mosque broadcast a few times a day. After you stay longer, you won’t realize there is actually a school or mosque nearby.

@wbk

Thanks for your technical sharing about the noise. Appreciate much.

MVP :@wbk
You are like real time reporter at the scene ><“

Just ngam ngam went to the showroom on Sat. Saw many people there. Thought fellow forumers should know.

kulikia :wbk, how did you get the update? you always steps into Ideal office?

No lar. Just curious about some properties in this area. And it wouldn’t hurt to share.

@wbk
Thanks for the sharing… Does anyone know when will ideals start the construction for FV?

I got quite sometime never goto Ideal office. Any updates about Tower 3? What is the latest price psf? How is the demand?

Anyone received letter from Ideal stated that all the units with skirting? Previous spec without skirting? I also not aware of it.

@YK
You mean something outside the unit to put the aircon compressor? I did ask the sale girl, she said yes according to the model. Don’t really trust her words on this. Maybe the buyer can write to Ideal for a confirmation. Everything must be black and white.

Hi wbk….thanks a lot for the sharing on noise pollution. I do agree with MVP that even if there is noise you will be immuned to it after a few months.

@wbk

Hi wbk, I’m referring to the skirting on the wall edge. Nowadays a lot of new projects without skirting and you will facing hard time when mop the floor.

@YK

Should have gua. The cheap apartment that I rent previously with lousy tiles also got.

Today just received letter from Ideal that confirmed there will be floor skirting provided to the internal of the unit.

I received confirmation from Ambank that they managed to offer BLR -2.45% for whole tenure & I planned for full flexi loan (RM10/month), now waiting for their MLTA or MRTA for comparision.

Last Saturday went to their show unit office & they just launch for Tower 3 which 60% was sold (all unit size are 1400sqft or 1450sqft, price start from RM512K), Tower 1 & 7 was sold out, Tower 5 left about 10 units of 1650sqft.

Checked with Ideal office last Saturday that no aircond piping provided, just aircond point & the celling height is 10.5 feet

Noise from the aircraft is minimal as my previous office just beside the runway (Sg Tiram) & one is in the aircargo complex

@2298

Left over units shld b less than 10%? Good response. Wah, AmBank managed to offer BLR – 2.45% but too late bcoz already took OCBC

It need to file for -2.45% & finally get the approval from their KL HQ as my company account & current housing loan is under them

@2298

Do you have the banker contact?

@YK

Did you have the clause in offer letter saying you need to start the instalment upon 37 months from the date of Offer Letter? No concern meh?

@MVP

I not applied AmBank loan. BTW, I didn’t received my stamped copies yet.

@MVP
installment start 37 months from date of letter of offer? that mean if there is long time difference between S&P stamping & letter offer date, then it is actually not really “interest-free until VP” if IDEAL take exactly 36 months from stamping date to complete.
Thanks for highlighting to buyers.

@1957

I thought this is standard term for all zero interest until VP schemes. Developer will always subsidize the loan interest until vacant procession. When 37th month comes, you only need to pay your portion while the developer pay the interest, which can be 70-80% of the installment. Look at it, it will reduce your cost easily by $40-50k during the 3-year constuction period.

If project delayed, developer has to fork out more money to pay the loan interest for us, in other words they will try harder to complete it on time.

Btw, does anyone know whether the new Penang Transport Master Plan includes the monorail from Airport to Tanjung Tokong again? If yes, it will be a great news for FV buyers.

Hardly Pg island to have monorail service within this 10 years because the island is too small.

@YK

I thought Penang monorail was approved before Pakaran Rakyat win the election. Federal government then postponed it indefinitely. Now Penang state government is putting up a master plan study. Monorail is most suitable for highly populated area like KL Bukit Bintang area. Now Malacca also started the monorail construction, even though less populated.

AmBank Pg Town – Tan Soon Seng 012-4271512

Read that Sathu Residence just got the vacant procession notice. Hopefully the residence there do nice nice landscape and renovation. Sure some businessmen will light up the firework during CNY one, then FV residence can watch.

Will there be centralized Astro satellite disk and embedded fiber optic cable to the house? This should be standard installation nowaday, but did anyone ask IDEAL before or stated anywhere in the SnP?

@1957

The sales girl said yes. But don’t know whether support Astro Beyond.

A taxi driver told my friend that Penang Airport will be having an airport hotel and a new terminal in next phase expansion. And Sungai Batu at Teluk Kumbar will be having a new resort and water theme park (by 2014) which has started land clearing. Guess you guys might want to know what is happening around this area.

@wbk

how abt internet cable? is there embedded fiber optic or LAN cable?

@1957

This one she doesn’t know. I think no fiber optic or else Ideal will sure market this feature during the launch.

AJC Consulting unveiled the Penang Transport Master Plan proposal last night. Only read that the sea tunnel is shelved. Need to find out whether monorail will be there and whether the road lead to Teluk Kumbar will be widen. This has been in discussion since 2006 I believe.

@wbk

Widen the road to Teluk Kumbar nothing impact for FV prices. The most important whether got Monorail station nearby this residential area? Airport for sure have a station but since it is too close to this residential region, they might not consider to build another one nearby.

@FireDragon

Road to Teluk Kumbar junction is important for those who travel to KL often. Based on the Balanced Approach Vision in the new Penang Transport Master Plan, they do mention about inclusion of Communal Rail, I guess the monorail is still on the table. Station at Airport is sufficient as it will be convenient for teenagers who live in Fiera Vista to go to schools or town by themselves. I am sure there would be feeder or shutter bus to airport as well if the monorail is a go.

Hopefully this can happen sooner than later.

I heard that Tower 3 all high floor booked already, only left units at low floor. Selling really fast, only launched less than two weeks.

@YK, MVP, wbk
Did you find any clause in the SPA said that developer will bear the interest until VP? Just to be get it in “black & white” since for the case of OCBC loan, bank will full release all the balance amount to developer by month 36 from date of OFFER LETTER even though project not complete. How to the bank charge the interest to developer (instead of borrower) since there is no legal bind between developer & bank?

How about other bank loans?
– is it start from the date of offer letter, or date of loan agreement?
– compulsory for MRTA?

wbk :@1957
I thought this is standard term for all zero interest until VP schemes. Developer will always subsidize the loan interest until vacant procession. When 37th month comes, you only need to pay your portion while the developer pay the interest, which can be 70-80% of the installment. Look at it, it will reduce your cost easily by $40-50k during the 3-year constuction period.
If project delayed, developer has to fork out more money to pay the loan interest for us, in other words they will try harder to complete it on time.
Btw, does anyone know whether the new Penang Transport Master Plan includes the monorail from Airport to Tanjung Tokong again? If yes, it will be a great news for FV buyers.

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wbk :@1957
I thought this is standard term for all zero interest until VP schemes. Developer will always subsidize the loan interest until vacant procession. When 37th month comes, you only need to pay your portion while the developer pay the interest, which can be 70-80% of the installment. Look at it, it will reduce your cost easily by $40-50k during the 3-year constuction period.
If project delayed, developer has to fork out more money to pay the loan interest for us, in other words they will try harder to complete it on time.
Btw, does anyone know whether the new Penang Transport Master Plan includes the monorail from Airport to Tanjung Tokong again? If yes, it will be a great news for FV buyers.

@1957

I haven’t signed yet, so not sure. But should be in SPA kua. SPA should cover everything since it is the “Agreement”. Everything that is agreed by developer and purchasers should be included there. Someone told me Sathu Residence DIBS mentioned in SPA, so should be the same. Make sure you ask your sales and banker.

Project with DIBS normally has prices marked up, no free lunch here. Most of the recent launches in Penang come with DIBS, just to attract buyers since it makes everybody think these projects are low risk. In property investment, it is all about risk and return.

@1957

If not mistaken SnP stated developer subsidy interest till VP. At the same time OCBC offer letter stated that must instalment 37 months from date of offer letter. They somehow clash. If you signed OCBC months earlier then die. No black and white stating the last few months of interest how to pay or how to claim back. All only verbal. Better don’t take OCBC to avoid unnecessary trouble.

@MVP

I thought normally after 3 years all banks will start collecting installment. They won’t wait until fully completed kua. If developer bankrupt, they will be in trouble especially those with DIBS. You can opt to start installment early, but cannot more than 3 years i think.

Anyway, I will sign the SnP only when they almost complete the pilling. 😀

@MVP
Thanks for the valuable advices. I also think OCBC loan is tricky.

@wbk
I think most of the banks should start installment 36 months from 1st drawn out by developer (or upon VP), not the date on offer letter.

How about other banks’ term on this for FV loan?

@1957

I think you are right, my previous housing loan stated 36 months from 1st drawdown. I just signed up with OCBC last week, my banker just mentioned that the letter offer date will be amended to follow the legal agreement date.

Most of the SnP already stamped in March, if they really delayed in handing over, Ideal will have to compensate to those buyers. If you sign from April onwards, should be no difference kua.

@wbk

why don’t u wait for Ideal stamp the SnP first then only sign the offer letter from OCBC? that is safer & more secure lah.

@1957

After accepting the offer letter, the lawyer will start preparing the legal agreement. Without taking any bank loan, I think Ideal won’t prepare anything for you to sign and stamp by the lawyer kua. Unless you tell them you are paying cash progressively. But then the IRB will come after you. The other risk for not signing the bank loan offer at this point is the bank quota. Once the bank quota is full, you have no choice but to apply loan from other banks. HSBC full long time ago for FV. HLB also will be full very soon. Not sure about OCBC and Public Bank.

I will try to wait until the very last minute to sign the legal agreement, just to be safer for a few more weeks. 😀

I really want to sign only when they start pilling.

@1957

Letter of offer not sign yet they won’t let you sign SnP

I saw they already start to cleaning the site…. Probably next will be the piling…

They said pilling will be completed by May/June wor. After that I think the first drawdown from bank will start to tick liao…

Should be la because the Dua Villa completed already.
My colleague just got VP and going to collect key already.

Wah. Dua Villa also can get key already ah? I went into their emptied house two weeks ago to check out, quite spacious.

just curious… how much is the dua villa when first launch?

Near to RM700K but the price is higher than Sathu Terraces and smaller land size. Do have Dua Villa page on this website

https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2010/12/dua-villas-one-residence/

Noticed that the whole block of Tower 3 is released for booking, few weeks ago they reserved units 3A and 5 (pool and lake view). I think they might be feeling the pressure from The Clovers lor, which has extremely low initial commitment and good take up rate within a week of soft launch.

Tower 3 units 3A, 5, 6 still have plenty of choices. But for those facing lake and swimming pool are asking for 600k for 1400sft units. So far 7-8 units already been booked.

Let’s see who is the better seller. Hehe…

Dear potential buyer of Clovers / Fiera Vista,

B4 all of us get too indulged into these new properties in Sg Ara, please take a look at the appeal of the neighborhood concern on the future hill slope project nearby.
It will affect you one way or another IF it get to go ahead. It can even caused safety issue, traffic jam and even drop the value of your future properties!

Give your comment on the topic in this blog “Sg Ara folk against hillside project”. Make our stand to be heard by the Govt and MPPP.

@layman

The other approach is to setup a facebook page and ask all our friends to like lar. That is more effective. But please don’t involve political party lar. Last time your protest seem to be hijacked by a politician. Hehe…

any idea water pumps is located at which floor?

@CT

Should be at ground floor kua. Only 16 floors. I think the pumps will be located at Tower 1, since closer to swimming pool.

any concern about where’s the pump locate..?
any idea when’ll know the carpark loc…?

A bit of noise if your units are too close to the pump room. Normally they turn on during daytime for the swimming pool. And shutdown at night. Do complain to the management if too noisy.

Car park will be ballot when vacant possession is near.

anyone go to site visit? are they start to install the piping?

@CS
Was there 2 wks ago but di dnot see any work just so holes dug only.

I saw the land cleared and signboard up already lar. Cannot see the main contractor name on the signboard, but I think shoud be Paramount kua, since they already finished sathu and dua.

I remember the sales girl mentioned that the pilling starts May 15, which is two days ago. Yet to confirm on this lar…

Anymore unit left? what is the selling price now?

@Loh

Hi Loh,

I just visit the showroom at one world (opposite Sunshine) they last i check is approx 20 unit left for tower 3.

Price are RM53000 1 carpark, additional 1 carpark 15K. Hope this help..

Hi ST,
I also went there last week, but was being told 1 additional carpark is RM20K, and facing tower 3 facing swimming pool is 600k above. Who told you the additional carpark is 15k? It is different 5k..

@Khoo

My bad i think i recall it wrongly.

All buyer,

I visited the site yesterday. What i see in progress:

The clearing is 80% completed. The pilling machine is there and they should have started the pilling.

Hope it would complete on time by 2015

@ST

You may want to email some site progress pictures to admin so that the buyers can see here lar. Construction site is quite dangarous one lar…

I got some picture to share which i taken on early of May.

@ST

Thanks ST..You bought which tower?

would fierra vista get disturbed by the airport noice??? this is my main concern.. i bought one in tower 5

@Khoo

T1

@gj

It would be very very minimal…..the runway is about 1.5KM. Even if you are in airport terminal do you heard annoying turbo engine sound; maybe mild, imagine is 1.5KM away now.

I would feel not safe to live near airport. Crash? who know.

@LimPek
Funny lar you.. like that you better don’t stay around or work around Bayan Lepas area

Found this article, just sharing…..

Neighborhoods with draining negative energy. Such examples are:

1. Depressing structures such as cemeteries and garbage dumps
2. High electromagnetic frequencies (EMFs) such as electricity pylons and cell phone towers
3. Chemical/toxic areas such as processing plants and slaughterhouses
4. Domineering structures such as water towers or a very large building in a residential area
5. “Dead” nature – little or no vibrancy in the trees, plants and wildlife
6. Rushing traffic from railroads, airports, or highways

All of the above examples are high energy-drain places that can lead to emotional, psychological or physical stress with repeated exposures.

I tot nothing interesting here already lar but then suddenly got some many post… hehe…

You all must read my technical assessment on the airport noise on FV lar…. I think i posted it on March/April lar… got distance analysis, noise contour study etc. lar… you can also do google search to verify my study lar… hehe…

The main selling point of FV is you can see the big stretch of green field, morning sun from the sea, a few small islands, beautiful bridge and some skyscrapers. Got different view at morning, and night lar. Got lake with fountain to see somemore…

@CK
Haha, let’s fill in the blank….
1. Depressing structures such as cemeteries and garbage dumps: Clovers, The Spring, Summer Place, All Seasons Park, Shineville,
2. High electromagnetic frequencies (EMFs) such as electricity pylons and cell phone towers: Vertiq, Platino, Pearl Regency, Bayswater
3. Chemical/toxic areas such as processing plants and slaughterhouses
4. Domineering structures such as water towers or a very large building in a residential area – Setia Pearl Island
5. “Dead” nature – little or no vibrancy in the trees, plants and wildlife – All projects around town area.
6. Rushing traffic from railroads, airports, or highways: The Light Linear, Bayswater, FV, The View, Southbay (future second link)

@wbk, you are right.. Nothing interesting here in FV… You are still here aren’t you? :p

@CK

Ya lor boring lar this FV thread, I guess almost sold out kua and all SnP stamped already… Hehe…

I will still be here for a while lar, so many launches coming soon. so many surprises. so many new concepts. Life long earning is my thing lar… hehe…

I should say life long learning lar… life long earning makes my face turn “$$$” lar… hehe…

And your point is???

@CK

A few points there already wor, which one you want to know more? Be specific can ah?

no need to elaborate lar… As long as you satisfy yourself can already… All the best to you kiddo…. And work hard to earn more $$$ ya… You might have more choice next time to sing song on other forum….

No offend intended to other FV purchasers…. Cheers

wbk :@CK
Ya lor boring lar this FV thread, I guess almost sold out kua and all SnP stamped already… Hehe…
I will still be here for a while lar, so many launches coming soon. so many surprises. so many new concepts. Life long earning is my thing lar… hehe…

nobody ‘shoot’ here u feel boring izit? then wait for another project from IDEAL lor..u know their record lah…heehee…

@LimPek
Wow, you’re talking about possibility that lesser than kena first price for RM20mil big sweep with jackport. FV to crash by airplane? The possibility is ~0.

@Anywhere

Anywhere :@CK Haha, let’s fill in the blank….1. Depressing structures such as cemeteries and garbage dumps: Clovers, The Spring, Summer Place, All Seasons Park, Shineville,2. High electromagnetic frequencies (EMFs) such as electricity pylons and cell phone towers: Vertiq, Platino, Pearl Regency, Bayswater3. Chemical/toxic areas such as processing plants and slaughterhouses4. Domineering structures such as water towers or a very large building in a residential area – Setia Pearl Island5. “Dead” nature – little or no vibrancy in the trees, plants and wildlife – All projects around town area.6. Rushing traffic from railroads, airports, or highways: The Light Linear, Bayswater, FV, The View, Southbay (future second link)

Haha, good one! I would say, no perfect property in Penang. Got 1 good, no 2nd good.

@Anywhere
Haha, let’s complete in the blank….
1. Depressing structures such as cemeteries and garbage dumps: Clovers, The Spring, Summer Place, All Seasons Park, Shineville,
2. High electromagnetic frequencies (EMFs) such as electricity pylons and cell phone towers: Vertiq, Platino, Pearl Regency, Bayswater
3. Chemical/toxic areas such as processing plants and slaughterhouses – The Spring, Straight Garden and future projects at five smell (goh bee) area (sesame oil plant, indah water treatment plant, garbage landfill, sea mud smell, sungai pinang bad sulfur smell)
4. Domineering structures such as water towers or a very large building in a residential area – Setia Pearl Island
5. “Dead” nature – little or no vibrancy in the trees, plants and wildlife – All projects around town area.
6. Rushing traffic from railroads, airports, or highways: The Light Linear, Bayswater, FV, The View, Southbay (future second link)

The “goh bee” one really terrible lar… who wants to stay there? hehe…

But hor, how come tsunami area is not considered negative chi har? that time no tsunami yet is it?

Seeing Bayswater is in the list, that make me want to laugh, hulamak, this condo is one of the terrible ‘hot’ or super star in penang, that rocket shooting appreciate in price, [buy one, get two or three as of now] haha. Anyway, who care? Who care the busiest highway in front? The chimney beside? Caltex Petrol station next to it?

So, the lima bau, or ‘goh bee’ (five smell) area is nothing. Later will see Straight Garden right there, selling RM500 or RM600psf that facing Indah water plant, highway…

Anyone has concern about the unit have pool view? As it is facing east… Will it very hot?

Sorry… Typo error… Should be west

Sure hot lar… but in front got big mountain and 6 condo in the future to block the sun for you… so depends on season lar….. and you got lake view and mountain view… got good and bad lar… hehe…

Looking at the overall layout, it is all calculated by Ideal lah..outer units facing east & south face the main road, facing west unit get evening sun, facing north face with the commercial tower/carpark, facing pool view units are squeeze together give you the congested feeling. somemore who know the man-made lake later will still be there or not? may be the lake and commercial center change to LMC ler…

Of course lar… maximize the value of the place ma. you really tot the architech nowadays so cha one meh… hehe…

But hor… don’t worry about the lake will turn into the LMC lar… the LMC is currently being constructed next to the clovers lor… hehe…

If you still feel congested with this big piece of land and 16 floor only condo, that i cannot help you already lar… hehe

wbk :
Sure hot lar… but in front got big mountain and 6 condo in the future to block the sun for you… so depends on season lar….. and you got lake view and mountain view… got good and bad lar… hehe…

why 6 condo? i thought ideal project only have 4 blocks? the other 2 is belong to which project?

@CS
May be wbk means the lake will be change to 6 blocks condo later…although IDEAL advertised the lake everywhere, but the land not belong to FV mah..IDEAL think their performance already ‘kaput’ so don’t care liao..like he said maximize the use of the land for profit mah..hee hee

Crystal Ball :
@CS
May be wbk means the lake will be change to 6 blocks condo later…although IDEAL advertised the lake everywhere, but the land not belong to FV mah..IDEAL think their performance already ‘kaput’ so don’t care liao..like he said maximize the use of the land for profit mah..hee hee

sorry, wrong word use, not performance, but reputation ‘kaput’..sorry bad english..hee hee

@CS
@Crystal Ball

These make the six new condo that will block the evening sun lar…
1. Reflection
2. The Wave
3. The Breeze
4. Meridien
5. Orchardville
6. Setia Triangle

And hor… the lake is part of the kawasan of the Tree Residency lar if you still wondering…. That’s why so laku lar… hehe…

@Ah Dog
If the price can go up. The property sitting on cemetery also sapu la 😀

anyone home?

eclipse :
anyone home?

here is a quiet town….

Any breaking news or progress update?

Fully sold out already and waiting for delivery kua…. Normally project getting quiet when moving into this phase lar… Huha will start again when almost ready… hehe…

Need to wait after 2.5 years then only will becomes noisy in here…

ww :
Need to wait after 2.5 years then only will becomes noisy in here…

Ooh.., izit? let see then…hee hee

ww :
Need to wait after 2.5 years then only will becomes noisy in here…

You sound like: IDEAL, please “wash clean-clean your backside” and be prepared for then…
hahaha….

are they start to install the piping? anyone know what is the progress so far?

The old kampung houses almost cleared & already started to piling

Wat about the illegal stalls on the main road and side road to mamak long restaurant ? Wat is the number to complaint this

Anyone signed SnP?
Is the DIBS mentioned in the SnP?
Banker say it is btw Developer & Buyer……
If know pls advise which pg?
Also any other clauses to look out for?

@lchr88

Wah… you are really late lar… still not yet sign the SnP? People SnP already stamped in March lar. Concrete perimeter fense also put up already. hehe…

Best is ask your sales lar. Make sure your doubts are all cleared before you put down your signature and downpayment. And read every single line in SnP if you are good at reading also… Developer nowadays very smart one… hehe…

@Crazy dog

This is 1Malaysia lar…. road side durian stalls and nasi lemak stalls are part of the culture lar… hehe…

@lchr88

yalo, you are really late… in fact a lot peoples signed the SnP on Feb and March…. which is 3, 4 months back already. When did you purchase your unit?

wbk & CS I just got intro to it recently lah……
During Feb & Mar I think I did not know FV existed yet……. 😛
Anyway anyone out there got the specific pages on key clauses to look out for?
Or any of you just discover any issue clauses that want me to make noise?
Will be signing in a 1-2 wks time as just signed the bank offer letter.
Went by today saw they started the piling da

anyone knw what is the land size for this project?

@CT

I will measure it and let you know.

does anybody have answers on these:
1. where is the DIBS been specific in any official agreement? been told only stated developer subsidy interest till VP in the booking slip only & no other document contain it.
2. SnP stated allow for 2% variation of strata title floor plan Vs building plan (~30sqf for 1500sqf unit). Is this standard SnP?
3. The adjustmen/compensationt rate just in case the actual build up area less than floor plan is only RM230psf (Vs purchase price ~RM340psf). Anyone complaint before?
4. buyer need to bear the stamp duty for strata title transfer in the future (~RM10k)

@lchr88

This might be your largest investment. You may want to read every single line, and ask the sales or lawyer whenever you have questions…

@SnP

I can answer #4, YES.

I wonder why they wan to create a man made lake there ? Make a football field is better lo

@Crazy dog

Like Desa Park City in KL lar… property double in no time… Now people play football on computer or iPAD liao lor.. hehe…

i guess the selling point for the man made lake will be much better than the football field… nice view, leisure park for jogging and for family gethering…

if they go for football field, eventually will be occupied by the malay kampong boy….

@pkm

I am still measuring it with my ruler, may take another 2 months.

I have some picture to share on the progress.
How to upload?

Email the pic to Ken the admin @ admin@penangpropertytalk.com

See progress pictures better than argue in OV thread. hehe…

No noice at all cause i live at there (old kampung) for 30 year last time the place call sepuloh kongsi…. very go fung shui cause l also buy one unit too

@j lim

good feng sui in term of? facing the mountain?

Can anybody tell exactly where is the mosque nearby located?

Just went and ask ideal if there are any more units left for sale. They say only left tower 3 level 2 got unit left. Type D3.. The price is around 550k including the car park.good to buy or not?

@ce
not advisible to take up the unit at lower floor as lower floor has low price appreciation after completion and hard for sale too… for own stay, also the same.. low floor level will experience the traffic noice when car passes though if u are facing the road; facing swimming pool=noice from the swimming pool and common area.

CE :
Just went and ask ideal if there are any more units left for sale. They say only left tower 3 level 2 got unit left. Type D3.. The price is around 550k including the car park.good to buy or not?

I think the price RM550K for level 2 with 1400sf is too expensive. The price is equivalent to SP Setia Reflections 1200sf level 11. It is not worth buy for investment purposes.

Then I’ll forget about it.

The level 2 units in FV always the last on the chart. If budget is not a problem, should go for level 5 and above, buying condo must get the view lar…. hehe…

wbk :
The level 2 units in FV always the last on the chart. If budget is not a problem, should go for level 5 and above, buying condo must get the view lar…. hehe…

I don’t agree buying condo must get the view…It depends on ppl need….Like i live in few apartment/condo (with some have seaview), but i noticed that i seldom (maybe not at all) go to enjoy for the view…View is a bonus, but not a must for me…For me, the more important is the size and facilities

@stuart

Agree also lar… the view comes with the price tag one lar…

Then for investment level 2 is harder to sell later

Hi guys, is this project still available to buy? and may I know how much is the maintenance fee?

@Saw

Heard it is RM180/month, regardless of size.

@CE
You can contact me if you are still interested in buying. mine is high floor with pool & lake view.
e-mail is arm@1myemail.com

@CE

if you compare reflection/FV on the per sqft for reflection is 450 approx, for Fierra Vista is <400

Is depends on what you want, if you think view is important reflection is good. If space is important FV is better by per sqft.

I'm a family man. I think i would prefer space more then view. I have more room for my kids !

Hope this help CE

@CE

Hi CE,

If you keen, i have a unit level 7 corner unit

Do contact me if you are interested:lits3288@gmail.com

@CE

Which tower? 7th floor which unit?

Penang Kia if you interested pls drop me a mail. Will discuss further.

i heard tat Ideal will release few units soon (from loan rejected unit). Pls go to ask ideal more detail.

Aloha :i heard tat Ideal will release few units soon (from loan rejected unit). Pls go to ask ideal more detail.

Like that potentially can get good unit with original selling price…

Hi.. just paid my down payment and signed the S&P. bought the unit at Tower 7, level 10.. partialy swimming pool view. got the loan from OCBC.. 2.45% whole tenure..

ckechook :Hi.. just paid my down payment and signed the S&P. bought the unit at Tower 7, level 10.. partialy swimming pool view. got the loan from OCBC.. 2.45% whole tenure..

You get the unit that other people let go? I tot Tower 7 sold out long long time ago…

Ckechook, Still have any other available unit for tower7?

Just booked 1 unit from Tower 5, level 15.

@Nokia
Nokia, what the selling price and do you need to pay for second car park?

I’m looking for one unit!

If u are really keen & serious, you can contact me via e-mail arm@1myemail.com

@Raymond
540k++ and carpark 20k

Nokia :
@Raymond
540k++ and carpark 20k

is your unit 1,450 sqft. or 1,650 sqft?

@Nokia

Good price wor… must be slowly released by developer one lar… I think they still keep some so called “bumi units” one lor… hehe…

Guys, need help.
I am rather new, and find the advice given in this forum extremely helpful. Hope you guys will give me some good pointers here.
I am thinking of getting one of the last few units left in FV after visiting the recent property fair. This purchase is for my own future stay (probably after 10 years), so not entirely for investment purpose. Would FV be a good buy for this intend? My budget is between 500K to 800K, if FV is not a good buy now, any recommendations? I almost booked Summerton until I found out that it is a leasehold project and GSD’s recent problems with Sierra. So, I dropped the idea of that.

Pls provide some pointers. Thanks!

@NewBee
1. Low dense with surrounded terrace houses and LMC far away.
2. Airport LRT next 10 yrs? It will materialize just matter of time.
3. South Bay Plaza will be built after completion of 2nd Pg bridge.

Can anyone advise what is the future project for the big piece of land across Jln Tun Dr Awang (East of FV)?

1. Low dense with surrounded terrace houses and LMC far away. [470 units considered low dense?]
2. Airport LRT next 10 yrs? It will materialize just matter of time. [Walking to airport at least take 20-25min]
3. South Bay Plaza will be built after completion of 2nd Pg bridge. [South Bay Plaza is far far away from FV]

Can anyone advise what is the future project for the big piece of land across Jln Tun Dr Awang (East of FV)? [LMC?]

@NewBee

since your budget so high, why not go for landed?

@lost
1450 sqft……expensive?

@wbk
What is ur price purchase last time? which tower and level? mind to share with me?
Banker yet contact me………..dunno when only can sign S&P…………

@NewBee
you got 800k budget, can buy 2 units of Arena in Bayan Baru, location better and the price probably doubled when project complete…sell one of the units and the profit enough to pay the other unit…go deal bo?

Clock :
1. Low dense with surrounded terrace houses and LMC far away. [470 units considered low dense?]
2. Airport LRT next 10 yrs? It will materialize just matter of time. [Walking to airport at least take 20-25min]
3. South Bay Plaza will be built after completion of 2nd Pg bridge. [South Bay Plaza is far far away from FV]
Can anyone advise what is the future project for the big piece of land across Jln Tun Dr Awang (East of FV)? [LMC?]

I do agree with your feedback. With this price tag compare to SP Setia/BSG projects, I don’t expect things to get perfect. This condo is considered good in many aspect. But then, is there any condo that is better location for these facilities?

@letsgetfat
Arena better location, in Bayan Baru, future got Jusco, sPICE, various facilities & outlet, and NO airport noise.

@Pen1
I am also knew Arena is good but the problem is all sold out. I am walked in to developer sale office last year the sale person also lazy to entertain me.

Pen1 :@letsgetfat Arena better location, in Bayan Baru, future got Jusco, sPICE, various facilities & outlet, and NO airport noise.

Arena very high risk lor…. Developer no experience one lar… No bank want to fund for two years already… got rapid penang bus interchange somemore… smog ah, heat ah, bangla ah all welcome you everyday… buyers there all pening kepala now… hehe…

SP :@Pen1 I am also knew Arena is good but the problem is all sold out. I am walked in to developer sale office last year the sale person also lazy to entertain me.

Lucky you… Arena in big trouble now… hehe…

More beauty Cabin Crew will stay here!

For this amount, you can invest in Sandilands condo at Georgetown.

Private launch this coming sat. Price about the same as in Sungai Ara.

@NewBee

Jusco no longer going to Elit Height la…. Cancelled already.

Thanks for the advice and suggestions guys, really appreciate it.

@kia si
Don’t think 500K to 800K can get a landed anymore on the island, except for Balik Pulau and other newly develop areas, I guess…

@Pen1
Arena having some problems and is having delay, is that still the case?

@Elmo
Thanks, will check out Sandilands…

No issue so far on IDEAL projects, right…?

@Penangspy
“Jusco no longer going to Elit Height la…. Cancelled already.” Ooops, that’s bad for those who purchased ELIT because of Jusco at first place.

Sure or not Jusco not in Elite height? I heard Parkson moving in to QB and Jusco moving out from QB leh.

@MVP
Why Jusco want to move out of QB? Why Parkson want to move in QB?

@NewBee
I feel that ur budget range is too far apart…500k and 800k is like 300k apart…
It’s either 500k-600k (1 range) or 700k-800k (1 range) in my opinion.

If u have 800k to spend, u might as well go for landed…
some old houses might cost u around 700k, 100k for reno = 800k
If ur budget is 500k, condo is alright

@NewBee
Here’s what I think and this is not only for Ideal, it’s for all developers as well.
Those who manage to book and get a unit will say the developer very good this and that.
Those who missed the launching and unable to book will say otherwise.

I say go with ur own decision. Survey the location. Survey the market price vs surrounding projects

NewBee :No issue so far on IDEAL projects, right…?

FV pilling started liao and almost complete… only 16 floors, might be able to complete within 2.5 years. Strategic location with easy access to airport, FTZ, Bayan Baru, Southbay, QBM… nice sea view or lake view and best of all the maintenance fee is only RM180. hehe…

Pls check out more details on maintenance fee. RM180 only for 1st 1-2 years if not wrong. They will follow market rate after that ….

LL :Pls check out more details on maintenance fee. RM180 only for 1st 1-2 years if not wrong. They will follow market rate after that ….

After 1 year JMC takes over. So far did not experience much change from other condos. Make sure you buy condo with low starting maintenance fee as it is a long term burden and would also affect subsell, it won’t change much.

And if the maintenance fees is too high like >RM300 a month, the tendency that the owner default is higher, which might make the place badly maintained eventually. Hehe…

SOLD OUT?

@alamo

I think is still available, visit their showroom opposite mayang mall.

I went to their new sales office last weekend, still got 2 units left for FV. go and check it out.

can’t be sold out, this type of location, will take a while before its sold out . wbk , right?

I have called the office there is still got units available.

The cheapest and the lowest unit is Tower 3, level 8, price is RM613000.00 equal to 423psf.

@aizen

Hi
I have a unit to let go T1, level 7 – we could nego on the price if you intrested. drop me mail lits3288@gmail.com

@ST
How much you wish to let go?

@gsa
I have a unit on Tower1 also, interested, ple email me Bryant1975.ng@gmail.com

bryant :
@gsa
I have a unit on Tower1 also, interested, ple email me Bryant1975.ng@gmail.com

offer price? and your buy price?

ST :
@aizen
Hi
I have a unit to let go T1, level 7 – we could nego on the price if you intrested. drop me mail lits3288@gmail.com

whats your offer?

Hey everybody today I just go to ideal office they still have 4 units at tower 3……

then why buy from sub-sale? no other goodies also

Still have at12and 13a floor is very good view must go to see ya why need buy from sub-sale?

Still have at12and 13a floor is very good view must go to see ya why need buy from sub-sale?

@wbk2

don’t fall for subsale trap..avoid!

WBK, u have to work hard le,promote so long still got unit left…… so many owner ready let go their unit..did u tell them how good and future for this project??

@ArenaOwner

SHUT UP. Mind your own business for Arena which will become future BANGLA bus hub.

Every project must have left over some disadvantage units left over until developer giving any good discount or any promotion. It’s common. Regardless what, it’s non of your business since you are not the buyer here.

WBK is here to give constructive advice and opinion to those who are interested. Unlike you. Keep talking non-sense and giving idiot commet. The more you talk the more to show you are idiot. PITY BOY !

May I have the latest address for Ideal Property Development Sdn Bhd. ? It was moved to else where. Thanks.