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Fiera Vista

Sungai Ara/ 21 March 2011 Leave a comment

Fiera Vista is a freehold residential titled condominium project located along Jalan Tun Dr. Awang. Comprising four 16-storey residential towers with 470 unites, it offers unique floor layour of Semi-D and Bungalow ranging from 1,450 sqft. to 1,650 sqft.

Enjoy the conveniences of modern living or savor the peace and tranquility from being close to nature as Fiera Vista is located amidst greenery to invoke a sense of peace and calm without compromising on current lifestyles.

Location : One Residence, Sungai Ara, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Land Tenure : Freehold
Developer : Ideal Property
Contact No.: +604-645 6888
Indicative Price : RM478,000 onwards

Contributed by reader – Site progress (1-5-2012)

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Contributed by reader – Site progress (23-6-2012)

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  1. CS
    August 12th, 2012 at 23:01 | #1

    @waileong

    Their new office just located next to PISA. If you visit the FV show house before, it is somewhere near there.

  2. wbk2
    August 13th, 2012 at 07:23 | #2

    @wbk,
    the best hdb in penang is in progress now..hehehe

  3. david tan
    August 13th, 2012 at 08:58 | #3

    it was moved to OneWorld-TheOne, opposite Mayang Mall Bayan Baru

  4. ArenaOwner
    ArenaOwner
    August 13th, 2012 at 10:55 | #4

    @FireDragon why u so emo? or you cant take it? haha

  5. Buyer
    August 13th, 2012 at 12:07 | #5

    There always good and bad about a project. This forum are to discuss the pro/cons and not to be a stage of personal attack.

    I believe everyone here are mature enough to evaluate and then comment. Appreciate you think before you comment !

  6. wbk2
    August 13th, 2012 at 19:38 | #6

    This is my thinking of ideal properties:
    The perspective view looks nice, but it’s always different end product.
    The one is a very typical example. It’s built like a BJ court. What else, and FV itself the perspective pic are not amazing enough. so i predict it ends up like lower class condo compared to those Triangle, Clovers, Meridien…Wonder this company alaways playing this tricks still can survive.

  7. ArenaOwner
    ArenaOwner
    August 14th, 2012 at 11:30 | #7

    @Buyer i do agree you. every project got pro/cons, there is no prefect project. It’s just depend on what you want and able to accept what they provided. FV is one of the project that i concern but the location problem and is not suit for me. haha

  8. Buyer
    August 14th, 2012 at 11:48 | #8

    @ArenaOwner

    Appreciate your understanding. If FV is not the right place you could provide constructive feedback and not putting a very negative feedback that sweep out existing buyer, that most of us earned hard money to own a property. :)

  9. wbk2020
    August 14th, 2012 at 13:10 | #9

    @wbk2

    @ArenaOwner
    Go back to your Arena and do piling for bus station ler, why wasting your time here

    hehehe

    p/s Wbk get ready, they are coming after you not FV!

  10. jackie
    August 14th, 2012 at 23:07 | #10

    that’s exactly, wbk2020 can be wbk.
    but i sincerely think at this area, i would rather choose Setia!

  11. ArenaOwner
    ArenaOwner
    August 15th, 2012 at 00:09 | #11

    @jackie you are right…wbk2020=wbk

    wbk2020, you cant take it??haha. what is your feeling now? i dont think im wasting time because im just sharing my opinion…

    No offence FV project buyer..i just talk to wbk only..this project overall is good just location is too far for me…

  12. Buyer
    August 15th, 2012 at 09:00 | #12

    @ArenaOwner

    ..SP Setia wave is good project as well. I’m looking forward to get one. :)

  13. heehee
    August 15th, 2012 at 10:58 | #13

    wbk2020 may be = wbk, but wbk2 definitely not…
    wbk2 may be the “small brother of wbk by Covenant”…you know what that mean in Chinese lah…hee hee….

  14. jackie
    August 17th, 2012 at 08:59 | #14

    Fact is Fact. I think wbk2 is expressing his opinion which i strongly agree.

  15. Buyer
    August 17th, 2012 at 14:48 | #15

    @jackie

    Jackie/WBK2, i’m not putting bad mouth about clovers/triangle/meridien.

    If you see in this point:

    Clovers / Meridien respectively selling RM380-400 / persqft,
    Clovers – high density but very good facilities (e.g. private lifts); good location
    Meridien – low density good facilities. good location
    Hence, if anyone willing to pay more for FV project. I guess they would have better building structure and facilities. If i do my math correctly, let say every unit FV selling RM380 x 1450sqft x 400 unit versus. RM330 (FV launch price) x 1450 x 400, the developer will gain almost 30 million, if they started the price of RM380 same as Clover/Meridien. If for rich folks RM40-50K diff per unit is not a problem, but for us working 10 hours a day it makes lots of difference. Also Do you think 30 million will give you better access to facilities? I bet Yes

    Triangle.
    There launch price is almost the same as FV. Location is good and also some commercial unit. That will be apple to apple comparison instead.

    I think before referring any comment is best to do research and not just comment for the sake of comment.

    Hope all buyers of FV support!

  16. wbk
    wbk
    August 17th, 2012 at 15:30 | #16

    @ArenaOwner

    @Buyer

    @wbk2

    @jackie

    Selamat hari raye…. kita bincang “Rakyat” punye masalah nanti ok? hehe…

  17. Pen1
    August 17th, 2012 at 16:43 | #17

    @Buyer
    Don’t know what you try to say… If the actual is different a lot than the perspective view that it is cheating with purpose…cheating is cheating, no need so many excuse.
    Clover & Golden Triangle location is good? hahaha…what a joke…Meridian also next to LMC although at higher ground.

  18. Buyer
    August 17th, 2012 at 18:56 | #18

    @Pen1

    Sorry if I did offended someone. Everyone hope to get a descent house with a good price and good location. With current price property trend price we are trying to get the best shelter we can.

    I guess you are looking for luxury type condo. No offends this is no the right property for you.:)

  19. Pen1
    August 17th, 2012 at 19:32 | #19

    @Buyer
    No one blame you & u did nothing wrong. I just said Ideal may be price it lower but does not mean they can ‘cheat’ lah..

  20. jackie
    August 22nd, 2012 at 07:33 | #20

    i personally think amongst all the condos at sungai ara, Fiera Vista is one of the best location.
    However, its end product quality might not as good as shown in the model unit there.
    For Meridien, Triangle, the location is not so good, still need to pass through the graveyard or the traffic congested teluk kumbar road there..
    For Clovers, not too sure, eventually they will build another alternative road in the future

  21. CL
    August 24th, 2012 at 16:06 | #21

    @jackie

    Agree that the nearest compare to Clover; Triangle;Meridien.

  22. jackie
    August 26th, 2012 at 19:28 | #22

    near to South Bay, if there is a hypermarket in the future, it will only in there.
    Hopefully government will start widening the road at teluk kumbar there which is far too narrow.
    Just imagine if 2nd link opened. for sure, it must be super messy.
    So, got road improvement, got potential price rise for all the property near to Sungai Ara.

  23. Sue
    August 26th, 2012 at 22:22 | #23

    Contact me at sue8093@gmail.com if u interested to get a unit. I have one unit to let go.

  24. Pen1
    August 27th, 2012 at 11:25 | #24

    @Sue
    why not wait to sell after completion since this is DIBS? worry about quality or price drop underwater?

  25. wbk2
    August 27th, 2012 at 21:45 | #25

    wbk :
    @ArenaOwner
    @Buyer
    @wbk2
    @jackie
    Selamat hari raye…. kita bincang “Rakyat” punye masalah nanti ok? hehe…

    haha..

  26. wbk2
    August 27th, 2012 at 21:47 | #26

    Sue :
    Contact me at sue8093@gmail.com if u interested to get a unit. I have one unit to let go.

    why let go now? wait lar :) price sure up want right? hahah

  27. julia
    August 27th, 2012 at 21:50 | #27

    Sue’s unit has been taken, wonder why so fast can get the buyer? Many peoples are looking for this project indeed?

  28. CL
    August 28th, 2012 at 10:04 | #28

    @julia

    Are you sure so fast. She just posted one day!

  29. wbk
    wbk
    August 28th, 2012 at 21:02 | #29

    wbk2 :

    Sue :
    Contact me at sue8093@gmail.com if u interested to get a unit. I have one unit to let go.

    why let go now? wait lar price sure up want right? hahah

    Hee hee hee… yes. price sure up “want”… hehe…

  30. jackie
    August 28th, 2012 at 21:35 | #30

    how much the price is it? want to know…for a simple reason..HDB coming to PG

  31. wbk
    wbk
    August 28th, 2012 at 21:44 | #31

    @jackie

    Leave your email here… I will PM you… hehe…

  32. jackie
    August 28th, 2012 at 23:03 | #32

    nevermind, your price no need to give me, give to singapore government…haha

  33. Buyer
    August 29th, 2012 at 09:35 | #33

    @jackie

    Jackie if you compare all surrounding e.g Clovers, Meridien, coming Wave

    Fierra Vista is selling ~RM330 versus all RM380 Clovers/ RM400 Meridien. So what you expect much…from the design?

    Why not you compare Gurney Paragon.. Who don’t want to have a good nest to stay.

  34. wbk
    wbk
    August 29th, 2012 at 09:36 | #34

    @jackie

    Aiyo… you asked for price few hours ago… sekarang tak nak pula… apa la… semu Arena owner cam ni ke? hehe…

  35. jackie
    August 29th, 2012 at 21:33 | #35

    Aiya..wbk, why dare to reveal price here, scare to reveal hdb price? hehe
    I am not Arena owner…just seeing you always stir water in arena forum, now i tell the truth in here about the design and facilities, yaya cannot compare with others.
    Btw, please prepare headset/ear buds to avoid hearing problem coz near to airport.
    and very near to kampung, sure got a lot of bangla and other people….dono airport will build a terminal over there for bangla to gather there.

  36. wbk
    wbk
    August 29th, 2012 at 23:00 | #36

    @jackie

    Or you are the developer sales? Oh My English… hehe…

  37. Buyer
    August 30th, 2012 at 10:29 | #37

    @wbk

    @jackie

    let;s the market decide lar

  38. eddiewoolier@gmail.com
    September 1st, 2012 at 01:51 | #38

    Beware EDDIE WOO “China Steel” / with Jiabaoyi Industrry S/B truck. Took my the deposit and can’t deliver the grill door he promise. I have talk to a few owners affected by this BIG lier. At first he looks like a good guy after getting the deposit turns ugly.. car no plate: PKH7355 white BMW share by the a Singh & Eddie. Will launch a police report and write to Ideal and management.. i just don’t want to see this people in the area. Others affected pls write to management too… will joint to take legal action towards Eddie Woo.

  39. FireDragon
    September 1st, 2012 at 13:10 | #39

    @eddiewoolier@gmail.com

    Which project r u talking about? One world? My bro own a unit there and now under Reno. Didn’t hear any complaint about any gangster contractor there. My bro is calling all his farouvarable contractor for his renovation. I agree u to file a police report. Don’t let this kind of irresponsible contractor keep cheating for the buyer for their hard earn money.

  40. yy
    September 4th, 2012 at 14:37 | #40

    @FireDragon
    are you sure there’s no gangster contractor at all? pg famous leh….ideal control so tightly and successfully??

  41. wbk
    wbk
    September 4th, 2012 at 18:17 | #41

    @yy

    No one can be sure one lar… but Datuk Ooi said so lor… hehe…

    The Straits International School next to One Residence also he build one … if got doubt can ask him lar… hehe…

    http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/188516?tid=4

  42. FireDragon
    September 4th, 2012 at 18:47 | #42

    @yy

    Not sure. It’s very hard to control unless gov step in and put a hard rules.

  43. wbk2
    September 4th, 2012 at 20:03 | #43

    so wbk is here promoting his fV? what happen to arena?

  44. wbk
    wbk
    September 4th, 2012 at 20:37 | #44

    @wbk2

    Good question… hee hee…

  45. yy
    September 6th, 2012 at 00:13 | #45

    @FireDragon
    the only person that can really control the gangster situation is the developer themselves…they should make the report, i mean it’s a private property, why are these ppl coming in and out “suka hati”…look at central park, they escalated the issue until bukit aman….in 3 weeks case closed..the security is so tight not a single gangster contractor and go in now

  46. Pen1
    September 6th, 2012 at 09:01 | #46

    @yy
    Yes, good point. The gangster contractor issue is probably one of the reason people hesitate about IDEAL’s project although looks good. IDEAL really need to show their determination in such case if want to stand out to become premier player.

  47. wbk
    wbk
    September 6th, 2012 at 11:32 | #47

    @yy

    @Pen1

    I am sure all projects have the same “risk”… Even IJM projects are famous for the gangster contractors. But we are seeing results from Datuk Ooi pledge, no gangsters at all for 1-world, not sure about other developers lar… hehe…

  48. CS
    September 6th, 2012 at 16:15 | #48

    @wbk

    who said no gangster for 1-world project?

  49. wbk
    wbk
    September 6th, 2012 at 16:25 | #49

    @CS

    Datuk Ooi… can call him to complain if see any…

  50. CS
    September 6th, 2012 at 20:29 | #50

    @wbk

    They are just station there at 1-world lobby, the gangster contractor with the banner “Zubicon Venture”.

    Don’t think they can station there without the developer “acknowledgement”.

  51. letsgetfat
    letsgetfat
    September 7th, 2012 at 22:39 | #51

    Just sharing on construction site photos…

    http://www.evernote.com/shard/s74/sh/973eeb56-515f-432f-9c4d-8efbe1c83985/8573c91ca37bda86bcccd50e5ef7be30

  52. Buyer
    September 8th, 2012 at 11:17 | #52

    FYI to all buyer, next we will have international school build on the same neighborhood.

    http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2012/8/6/north/11800340&sec=north

  53. Buyer
    September 8th, 2012 at 11:18 | #53

    @letsgetfat

    Thanks for sharing

  54. Lim
    September 8th, 2012 at 12:23 | #54

    @Buyer
    I thought the SIS International School located at One Imperial?

  55. Buyer
    September 8th, 2012 at 12:30 | #55

    @Lim

    1Imperial is temporary campus.
    Ideal is building a campus to rent to SIS near One Residence.

  56. Lim
    September 8th, 2012 at 17:50 | #56

    @Buyer
    I am confuse, now SIS temporary campus is at The One, they will then move to One Imperial. After campus is built up, then only move to One Residence??

  57. Joy
    September 8th, 2012 at 18:28 | #57

    @Lim

    The 1 square is their temporary campus, SIS permanent campus is at One residence, construction will start in January next year and is scheduled to be completed in the third quarter of 2014 , they will move to One Residence once the campus is completed .

  58. Buyer
    September 8th, 2012 at 20:24 | #58

    Anyone wish to send his/her son/daughter to international school would be very convenient. :)

  59. jackie
    September 9th, 2012 at 17:57 | #59

    international school. the place has been fulled of schools. Hopefully this international school can bring up the standard of sungai ara area.

  60. ezalor
    September 11th, 2012 at 14:26 | #60

    @jackie
    Now is the a new road connecting directly the traffic T-junction for Setia Perl Island to Jalan Tun Dr Awang (though not yet officially open). So, in future, all projects around there should sharing same faster road to Jalan Tun Dr Awang and also can access to airport roundabout. Dont want pass through graveyard? Just the same road lar, I dont think Ideal will put sign board saying this road only for Ideal residents.

  61. jackie
    September 11th, 2012 at 20:28 | #61

    thats true. i saw the road in the making already.
    It’s only beneficial to SPI owners..
    The Fiera Vista is located on the left hand side of the junction right?

  62. ezalor
    ezalor
    September 11th, 2012 at 20:52 | #62

    @jackie
    should be beneficial to every body in that area, regardless SPI, Meridien, Clover, FV….different is how far the distance from each housing project to that new short cut road that connecting the traffic light from SPI to Jalan Tun Dr Awang and also to airport roundabout. Really save a lot of travel time.

  63. jackie
    September 11th, 2012 at 22:01 | #63

    saw there is a traffic light…should be available to everyone else esp the cluster house owners, they needs this road urgently…but wonder is this the only road?

  64. KH
    September 17th, 2012 at 16:30 | #64

    may I know what is PSF for type 1650 per units?

  65. CW
    September 17th, 2012 at 22:59 | #65

    All 1650sqft units already taken.

  66. NewBee
    September 18th, 2012 at 12:54 | #66

    Anyone has any idea what is the progress of this project…? I am overseas and would appreciate some help from forumers here…. Thanks in advance.

    Also, current psf price of RM425 – is this way too high to pay for FV?

  67. SP
    September 18th, 2012 at 13:19 | #67

    @NewBee
    The land still on pilling. The early phase ppl paid RM340psf unit only. So go judge yrself is it high or low if RM425psf. But I would say RM4XXpsf is about market price today.

  68. nd4spd
    September 18th, 2012 at 13:44 | #68

    Pilling completed

  69. Buyer
    September 19th, 2012 at 10:00 | #69

    @NewBee

    Hi NewBee,

    Just some analyst reference, you can do some research for all new SG.ARA project launch.

    New:
    The Clovers – opening phase II, expect to be >400 above
    One Imperial – RM380 per sqft launch…

    Hope this helps

  70. George Ong
    September 19th, 2012 at 15:48 | #70

    Any units available? How much? Thanks.

  71. Buyer
    September 19th, 2012 at 16:27 | #71

    @George Ong

    I think is fully sold..you can check with ideal if there is any left over.

  72. GongGong
    September 19th, 2012 at 21:02 | #72

    Someone said FV pilling just completed. Are the shoplots next to FV fully sold too? Is the pilling completed as well?

  73. George Ong
    September 19th, 2012 at 22:24 | #73

    What is the price psf for last tower?

  74. bustard
    September 20th, 2012 at 00:33 | #74

    THIS MAMA IS HEADING TO RM500 PSF SOON.

  75. Buyer
    September 20th, 2012 at 10:00 | #75

    @bustard

    Who told you so? where your reference?

  76. FV
    FV
    September 20th, 2012 at 10:47 | #76

    My insurance application got rejected because bank didn’t release the loan due to the slow progress for FV, anyone face this issue?

  77. Kuan
    September 20th, 2012 at 11:44 | #77

    @FV

    Sounds weird. I heard the pilling just completed, bank shouldn’t release any money to the developer yet as I believe the 10% downpayment is for the pilling. Bank will only release loan to Ideal when the foundation completed, which is another 2-3 months away.

    Btw, which bank that you take?

  78. FV
    FV
    September 20th, 2012 at 13:44 | #78

    @Kuan

    Actually, I include the MRTA fee in my loan. Because in FV in pilling stage now, so, bank won’t release the loan to Ideal. Without realeasing the loan, the MRTA will get rejected because we no money release to insurance company, is it correct?

  79. Kuan
    September 20th, 2012 at 14:48 | #79

    @FV

    Never experienced this before. HL bank never rejected insurance. Bank should settle everything themselves. Insurance is high profit for them.

  80. FV
    FV
    September 21st, 2012 at 09:32 | #80

    @Kuan
    That mean your insurance get approved even bank not yet released the loan to developer?
    I take OCBC.

  81. wck
    September 21st, 2012 at 10:43 | #81

    @FV
    properly your birthday has past, and the age is different from the time you apply for the insurance. The premium for insurance changed and thus rejected.

  82. Kuan
    September 21st, 2012 at 11:34 | #82

    @FV

    I never get rejected on MRTA. In fact, we normally try to avoid the MRTA for new project. What’s your banker said?

  83. jackie
    September 21st, 2012 at 19:54 | #83

    Fiera Vista delayed once again? Cannot be ler….

  84. yy
    September 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 | #84

    weird….first time i ever heard MRTA got rejected…..

  85. MVP
    September 22nd, 2012 at 22:16 | #85

    Insurance got rejected ma go buy again lor. What is the big fuss?

  86. lchr88
    September 26th, 2012 at 22:17 | #86

    Good news for us with the “Parliament approves Strata Titles (Amendment) Bill” vacant possession and the strata title to be issued simultaneously!!!

  87. CS
    September 26th, 2012 at 23:54 | #87

    lchr88 :
    Good news for us with the “Parliament approves Strata Titles (Amendment) Bill” vacant possession and the strata title to be issued simultaneously!!!

    what is that about?

  88. MVP
    September 27th, 2012 at 14:38 | #88

    lchr88 :Good news for us with the “Parliament approves Strata Titles (Amendment) Bill” vacant possession and the strata title to be issued simultaneously!!!

    Really approved?

  89. lchr88
    September 29th, 2012 at 00:33 | #89

    @CS
    VP is when they pass the key 2 u n normally tat is when u start to pay bank also…..
    ST is I believe when u get the unit’s title i.e. legal ownership….

  90. jackieSux
    September 30th, 2012 at 11:00 | #90

    Avoid Ideal as the developers.
    Can’t deliver in time, Change the outlook of the property.
    Bad reputation..there are many more to come, One Imperial 1, 2, Mansion One….

  91. jackieSux
    September 30th, 2012 at 11:04 | #91

    Interesting comment…

  92. TQ
    September 30th, 2012 at 11:28 | #92

    @jackieSux

    How can? I heard their new project sold out within a weekend. Are you saying that you know better and smarter than the rest of buyers?

  93. jackie
    September 30th, 2012 at 12:32 | #93

    i think they are smarter, because, they prefer different outlook which can bring surprises..
    one imperial is no match to fiera vista definitely

  94. TQ
    October 1st, 2012 at 20:36 | #94

    @TQ

    You mean I-regency or One Residence outlook would be much more nicer then their look now. It looks quite nice for me especially those link houses at One Residence.

  95. jackieSux
    October 1st, 2012 at 22:09 | #95

    @TQ

    I do not know… like I said, interesting comment

  96. onered86
    onered86
    October 2nd, 2012 at 20:43 | #96

    Any unit still available? interested. What is the maintence fee? Can email to onered86@hotmail.com? thanks

  97. prospect
    October 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 | #97

    Seems like all roads leading to and from second bridge will be upgraded soon. Will be convenient for FV residents who travel across the bridge often. Hopefully airport monorail can be coming. 😀

    http://www.starproperty.my/PropertyScene/PropertyScene/25462/0/0

  98. SA
    October 3rd, 2012 at 13:11 | #98

    @onered86

    You may ask for bumi lot if you are a bumi. Else wait for bumi lot release after 2 years.

  99. pt
    October 6th, 2012 at 16:44 | #99

    Hello, i am sincere buyer i would like to get an unit from Fiera vista. If you would like to let go your unit please sent me an email via pooitheng@hotmail.com. Thank you.

  100. SP
    October 6th, 2012 at 17:45 | #100

    @pt
    Why you not consider OI or SR?

  101. pt
    October 7th, 2012 at 14:59 | #101

    @SP
    I like to get an unit for own stay. I thought the idea of semid and Bangalore sound like more privacy. What do
    u think?

  102. SP
    October 7th, 2012 at 15:45 | #102

    I think for condo is about the same. Unless it is really low low den such as 2 units per floor or 4 units per floor type of condo.

  103. Pen1
    October 7th, 2012 at 17:24 | #103

    @pt
    You can try The Clover with private lift concept, but may cause you mad during rush hour :)

  104. MVP
    October 7th, 2012 at 23:30 | #104

    pt :@SPI like to get an unit for own stay. I thought the idea of semid and Bangalore sound like more privacy. What dou think?

    I agree with you. Staying in a real “taman” have more privacy compare to those ground floors are shoplot and surround by more shop lot. Personally I prefer my home to be more quiet but 5 minutes walk to shoplots ^^

  105. mel
    October 10th, 2012 at 07:28 | #105

    Anyone has the latest pictures of the fiera vista progress?

  106. ezalor
    October 11th, 2012 at 10:48 | #106

    Noticed there is empty land middle of One Residence, is it reserved for green area or will be used for future development like building a condo?

  107. Ah Long
    October 11th, 2012 at 11:46 | #107

    @ezalor
    Is that the land next to fiera vista & Tree Residency that you referring to? It should be a recreation lake there per IDEAL’s project illustration.

  108. ezalor
    October 11th, 2012 at 12:39 | #108

    @Ah Long
    The empty land in the middle of this photo:

    https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/wp-content/gallery/fiera-vista-update-1-5-2012/img_0283.jpg

  109. CT
    October 11th, 2012 at 13:37 | #109

    if i am not mistaken, there is a proposal to build single and double storey terrace at that piece of land. It should be in between Sathu Terrace and Dua Villas.

  110. cl
    October 11th, 2012 at 14:11 | #110

    @CT
    Thats great if have single storey project in PNG island. Look forward to it… If have any further info, pls help to share. Thanks.

  111. GG
    October 11th, 2012 at 14:21 | #111

    @cl
    Share the info please, interested on landed single storey too… :) long time never heard of such project anymore, just in balik pulau oni…

  112. cl
    October 11th, 2012 at 14:29 | #112

    i dont have the info just saw CT reply. Anyone got any news about Single Storey project in Png Island can share with us. Thanks.

  113. KL
    October 11th, 2012 at 14:33 | #113

    i thought there are 2 building going to build in between Sathu and Dua?

  114. PG Guy
    October 11th, 2012 at 15:36 | #114

    Latest news….. Setia Pinnacles….. minimm price RM430 per sq ft……. soft launch 1st week Nov…… official launch 29 Nov…… get ready folks…..

  115. yy
    October 11th, 2012 at 16:03 | #115

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/fieravista/

    This page is meant for those who have already bought fiera vista. Owners can share their ideas, read the latest updates and more importantly, raises those issues that their are seeing related to developers, management, bank loans, insurance and etc.
    I have been managing such community page before in the past.
    Feel free to join, no charges required and it is absolutely FREE. :)

  116. Ah Beh
    October 11th, 2012 at 16:13 | #116

    PG Guy :
    Latest news….. Setia Pinnacles….. minimm price RM430 per sq ft……. soft launch 1st week Nov…… official launch 29 Nov…… get ready folks…..

    When such news reach forum, most good units already booked by their existing customers. Typical SP Setia. 😀

  117. CT
    October 11th, 2012 at 16:27 | #117

    there is a board setup at that piece of land mentioning that the proposal of the project. how true is it and how valid is it? i have no idea.

  118. cl
    October 11th, 2012 at 16:38 | #118

    @CT
    CT, Thanks for advise. Wish that the Single Storey terrace will be built there.

  119. George Ong
    October 16th, 2012 at 19:39 | #119

    What will be built at that empty land?

  120. CT
    October 16th, 2012 at 20:54 | #120

    @cl
    seems like those single storey terrace is for compensation/koperasi member

  121. ST
    October 29th, 2012 at 09:42 | #121

    @CT

    i heard for sale. Approx 900K

  122. cl
    October 29th, 2012 at 12:14 | #122

    @CT
    Thanks.

  123. cc
    November 13th, 2012 at 11:20 | #123

    Is anyone giving out the units? Serious buyer. Thanks!

  124. Withdraw
    November 14th, 2012 at 08:46 | #124

    @cc

    You can drop me a mail if you interested garuda2118@gmail.com will discuss futher.

  125. Elrich
    November 16th, 2012 at 15:07 | #125

    Pls contact me at elrich@1myemail.com if you are keen

  126. rpgt
    November 28th, 2012 at 21:34 | #126

    YR-09-10-11-12
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    Y2-30-05-10-15
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  127. CS
    December 4th, 2012 at 13:42 | #127

    what is that?

  128. 2298
    January 2nd, 2013 at 23:00 | #128

    Update… the empty land in between Sathu & Dua, opposite of Tree Resisdance will be as per below & the contruction already started… which I saw about 6-7 units of double storey teres house already builded.
    a) Rumah Teres 1-Tingkat Jenis ‘A1-A2’ (59 UNIT)
    b) Rumah Teres 2-Tingkat Jenis ‘B1-B5’ (58 UNIT) Dan
    c) Pencawang Elektrik TNB Berasingan (1 UNIT Single Chamber)
    So looks like the SIS international school will not be here.
    Also the an empty land located at the back of Ideal low cost flat (which now builded about 10 storey high) is for Rumah Sesebuah (17 UNIT)

  129. CS
    January 3rd, 2013 at 15:20 | #129

    2298 :
    Update… the empty land in between Sathu & Dua, opposite of Tree Resisdance will be as per below & the contruction already started… which I saw about 6-7 units of double storey teres house already builded.
    a) Rumah Teres 1-Tingkat Jenis ‘A1-A2′ (59 UNIT)
    b) Rumah Teres 2-Tingkat Jenis ‘B1-B5′ (58 UNIT) Dan
    c) Pencawang Elektrik TNB Berasingan (1 UNIT Single Chamber)
    So looks like the SIS international school will not be here.
    Also the an empty land located at the back of Ideal low cost flat (which now builded about 10 storey high) is for Rumah Sesebuah (17 UNIT)

    where did you get these info from?

  130. 2298
    January 3rd, 2013 at 17:43 | #130

    @CS
    Every project have the MPPP approved signboard, you may check it out there yourself

  131. penang
    January 3rd, 2013 at 20:00 | #131

    International school was after the Dua Villas

  132. Bryan
    January 3rd, 2013 at 22:02 | #132

    penang :
    International school was after the Dua Villas

    “was”? means no more international school? I was told that the land is also for Heng Yik secondary school.

  133. PG Guy
    January 4th, 2013 at 08:40 | #133

    International school is at the other side of Jalan Dato Dr Awang. Opposite FV. News mentioned construction will start Q1 2013, complete by 2014.

  134. Bryan
    January 4th, 2013 at 10:25 | #134

    PG Guy :
    International school is at the other side of Jalan Dato Dr Awang. Opposite FV. News mentioned construction will start Q1 2013, complete by 2014.

    I have more concern about the Heng Yik school. If confirm, it will definitely boots the price up.

  135. PG Guy
    January 4th, 2013 at 10:53 | #135

    @Bryan

    Heng Ee high school popular? Isn’t that private chinese secondary school?

  136. Mad
    January 4th, 2013 at 13:28 | #136

    Diu! it will be massive jam if got school there.

  137. Bryan
    January 4th, 2013 at 14:28 | #137

    @PG Guy

    It is gov school. Their branch. One of the critical problems of FIZ parents now a day is their children education location. Phoy Tay only can take 400 students. The rest must travel to town. Imaging if for 1-Residences, their children can walk to school….

    http://www.guangming.com.my/node/149408

  138. PG Guy
    January 4th, 2013 at 14:47 | #138

    @Mad

    Children education comes first. Jam even massive comes second or third.. or tenth.

  139. Mad
    January 4th, 2013 at 16:02 | #139

    It will be no more peaceful residential area with secondary school kids around + massive jam of vehicle.

  140. PG Guy
    January 4th, 2013 at 16:27 | #140

    @PG Guy

    School children are not mat rempit la. Why so worry about school kids? International school should be less jam if you can afford. Normally people prefer to stay around popular schools so that they are given priority to enroll in these schools. And easy to send and pick up kids from the school too. Can save some bus fees and kids can reach home earlier. So far you are the first i know to worry about jam than the school.

  141. Bryan
    January 4th, 2013 at 17:20 | #141

    @PG Guy

    Near school, jam. Near shopping mall, jam. Near factories, jam. Not nearing anything, smooth traffic, but need to travel 3~4X distance to school, shopping mall, factories……. and when you reach the school, shopping mall, factories, also jam together…… hahaha!

  142. Mad
    January 4th, 2013 at 17:28 | #142

    @PG Guy , @Bryan
    can send kids to school by school bus.. want to enroll to famous school can use other’s address. Schools should be located at Bayan Baru which is on the ways to most factories, parents can drop children before reach factories, and not wasting time and petrol + jamming up the road rushing to other places back & forth!

  143. PG Guy
    January 4th, 2013 at 19:04 | #143

    @Mad

    I have no objection for another chinese school in Bayan Baru. The more the better. Everybody wins. Should ask government why never build more chinese schools since demand is so high.

  144. Bryan
    January 4th, 2013 at 20:01 | #144

    @Mad

    Doubt you understand the children school life by traveling in bus, and doubt you understand how a Chinese education system work.

  145. Mad
    January 5th, 2013 at 00:42 | #145

    @Bryan
    The parents must wake up early and suffer traffic jam? The children “has no life” if have to take school bus? What is the logic behind? Don’t be too pamper the kids, soon they will learn it the hard way when they grown up/working.
    It is not about the Chinese education system, but how strategic is the location of the school. Don’t you think Bayan Baru is better choice to ease traffic jam due to schools? By the way, I don’t see the Chong Shan Primary school a popular choice although near FV. because it is not “Star” school?

  146. Bryan
    January 5th, 2013 at 07:01 | #146

    @Mad

    So you yet to be a parent. After your “future” children cannot catch up the study because everyday spend additional 2 hours traveling, you will understand why. 6am thy went out, 8pm come home daily. This is not pamper but to avoid torture the children.

    Well, I think the strategic location is decentralize the schools to separate residential area, reducing the traveling on road.

    Phor Tay is lucky that the old folk home beside willing the sell the land with lower than market price to then to build the school. You have a piece of land in Bayan Baru to sell it cheap to another?

    I really don’y think everything to be built in Bayan Baru. Most of the people staying Sg Ara, Relau, Bkt Gambier, Sg Dua, need to pass through Bayan Baru to FIZ. If Bayan Baru traffic break down, all people affected.

    Haha! You got the wrong reason on why Chong San not popular.

    http://nanyang.com/node/393269

  147. PG Guy
    January 5th, 2013 at 08:24 | #147

    @Mad

    How so Jalan Dato Dr Awang not strategic enough for Heng Ee? There isn’t one here at the south west now. Population here is definitely growing. Try ask the parents, i am sure 100% of them will support.

  148. Curious
    January 9th, 2013 at 17:25 | #148

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=575918945758893&set=a.575918812425573.147246.211734085510716&type=3&theater

    CM just launch the new land for Heng Ee. Is this land near Fierra Vista?

  149. PG Guy
    January 9th, 2013 at 18:56 | #149

    @Curious

    Bryan said next to Dua Villas.

  150. Bryan
    January 9th, 2013 at 20:41 | #150

    @Curious

    The layout of that area doesn’t look like 1-R. So, Heng Ee is not coming to 1-R….?!

  151. Bryan
    January 9th, 2013 at 20:42 | #151

    PG Guy :
    @Curious
    Bryan said next to Dua Villas.

    The land should be for other development then.

  152. Michael
    January 9th, 2013 at 21:08 | #152

    @Bryan
    I fully agreed with this..I really had a nitemare when staying in Bayan lepas last 2 yrs but kid study at Kwang Hua, later to Heng Ee. This is really ‘NO LIFE’..I can’t imagine aftre 5 yrs later, how many hrs need to travel to get good school. We wasted time, money and children energy…once back home, just makan, and later bed. Pls dun think is ok…unless u try it. My sincere advice, pls dun ever to try. U will gonna to regret

  153. Bryan
    January 9th, 2013 at 21:17 | #153

    Curious :
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=575918945758893&set=a.575918812425573.147246.211734085510716&type=3&theater
    CM just launch the new land for Heng Ee. Is this land near Fierra Vista?

    Find out it is actually besides the Star, still very near to 1-R, and meet Med requirement also that the school is not at the door step. This is including a primary and secondary chinese school.

  154. cl
    January 9th, 2013 at 21:20 | #154

    Knowing from newspaper the land beside TheStar will be the location for Heng Ee Secondary and Primary as proposed. Hope this will be finalized.

  155. Bryan
    January 9th, 2013 at 21:20 | #155

    Michael :
    @Bryan
    I fully agreed with this..I really had a nitemare when staying in Bayan lepas last 2 yrs but kid study at Kwang Hua, later to Heng Ee. This is really ‘NO LIFE’..I can’t imagine aftre 5 yrs later, how many hrs need to travel to get good school. We wasted time, money and children energy…once back home, just makan, and later bed. Pls dun think is ok…unless u try it. My sincere advice, pls dun ever to try. U will gonna to regret

    So, I hope the school can be built asap to save all the parents. I still have 6 years to wait.

    http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2013/01/09/147.html

  156. Mad
    January 9th, 2013 at 22:02 | #156

    Michael :
    @Bryan
    I fully agreed with this..I really had a nitemare when staying in Bayan lepas last 2 yrs but kid study at Kwang Hua, later to Heng Ee. This is really ‘NO LIFE’..I can’t imagine aftre 5 yrs later, how many hrs need to travel to get good school. We wasted time, money and children energy…once back home, just makan, and later bed. Pls dun think is ok…unless u try it. My sincere advice, pls dun ever to try. U will gonna to regret

    give your kids a break and let them have proper childhood, not just school and tuisyen and etc etc classes… let them go home with school bus after school hour (1.30pm?).

  157. 1R junction
    January 10th, 2013 at 00:12 | #157

    wow, then the cross road in front SPI and 1R will be very busy in future because all the school bus form Sg Ara and Relau will use the connection to Jln Tun Dr Awang.. good to all the parents but some might be annoyed by the busy traffic. however the housing price will appreciate as well. pro and cons la.. relax..

  158. Ops
    January 10th, 2013 at 05:18 | #158

    Southern Penang need a secondary school desperately. Gomen is just too slow to react.

  159. Bryan
    January 10th, 2013 at 09:25 | #159

    1R junction :
    wow, then the cross road in front SPI and 1R will be very busy in future because all the school bus form Sg Ara and Relau will use the connection to Jln Tun Dr Awang.. good to all the parents but some might be annoyed by the busy traffic. however the housing price will appreciate as well. pro and cons la.. relax..

    Strategic location always pairing with heavier traffic. You have to juggling between the 2. The reason I choose this part of Sg Ara (1-R), is because I think there will be more development along the Jln Tun Dr Awang and Sg. Tiram, and yet, more green at this area. Just a wild thinking that if in future, a tunnel built underground the airport, to 2nd bridge, there would be perfect.

  160. PG Guy
    January 10th, 2013 at 09:51 | #160

    cl :
    Knowing from newspaper the land beside TheStar will be the location for Heng Ee Secondary and Primary as proposed. Hope this will be finalized.

    Children can literally walk to their schools, which is just across the street. Parents will be able to save RM100-150 per kid every month on ever increasing bus fees. Children can enjoy an hour or two more sleep time and play time. And the whole family will have more quality time together. Whoever complain, their brain need to recalibrate.

  161. PG Guy
    January 10th, 2013 at 09:56 | #161

    @Bryan

    The Straits International School will be next to Dua Villas then?

  162. Bryan
    January 10th, 2013 at 11:30 | #162

    PG Guy :
    @Bryan
    The Straits International School will be next to Dua Villas then?

    I don’t know. I tot is across the Jln Tun Dr Awang as well?

  163. Curious
    January 10th, 2013 at 12:47 | #163

    @PG Guy

    http://www.straitsschool.edu.my/index.php/tambun-indah/

    Move to Tambun..

  164. Curious
    January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 | #164

    @Bryan

    Thanks for your confirmation

  165. Bryan
    January 10th, 2013 at 13:23 | #165

    Curious :
    @PG Guy
    http://www.straitsschool.edu.my/index.php/tambun-indah/
    Move to Tambun..

    Walaoer….. finally nothing in 1-R. The Ideal sales today still saying that the land beside Dua is for Heng Ee…. True that sometime we can get more accurate information from here than the sales office.

  166. PG Guy
    January 10th, 2013 at 14:06 | #166

    @Bryan

    They are building two SIS to cater for different area. One in Tambun, one in Bayan Lepas.

    http://www.straitsschool.edu.my/index.php/a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-the-permanent-campus/

    http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2012/8/6/north/11800340

  167. SP
    January 10th, 2013 at 14:08 | #167

    @Curious
    Are you move to Tambun or there will be 2 sis inter school one in Tambun and one in Bayan Lepas.
    http://www.straitsschool.edu.my/index.php/a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-the-permanent-campus/

  168. Bryan
    January 10th, 2013 at 15:03 | #168

    PG Guy :
    @Bryan
    They are building two SIS to cater for different area. One in Tambun, one in Bayan Lepas.
    http://www.straitsschool.edu.my/index.php/a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-the-permanent-campus/
    http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2012/8/6/north/11800340

    Wow…. confuse now. But the news of the SIS campus in Bayan Lepas is later than Pearl City. And in SIS website, they never mentioned about the campus in Pearl City. They really able to start 2 new campus at the same time?

    How about the construction in front of FV? What is that?

  169. PG Guy
    January 11th, 2013 at 18:12 | #169

    @Bryan

    In front is business suite. Across the street is Heng Ee. I think SIS permanent campus will be on the piece of land next to dua villas. Saw it was marked as “school” in Ideal Haus thread.

  170. Bryan
    January 12th, 2013 at 20:26 | #170

    PG Guy :
    @Bryan
    In front is business suite. Across the street is Heng Ee. I think SIS permanent campus will be on the piece of land next to dua villas. Saw it was marked as “school” in Ideal Haus thread.

    Just explore the land besides Star, and there are already having construction work for industrial building in progress. So, it cannot be Heng Ee site.

    Also found from other newspaper that the land given to Heng Ee, is currently developed by Ideal Property. So, I am sure that Heng Ee site still at the land beside Dua Villa.

    http://www.nanyang.com/node/503547?tid=772

    SIS should be opposite Heng Ee across Jln Tun Dr. Awang.

  171. Mad
    January 12th, 2013 at 21:08 | #171

    Shittt…. I thought it will be better if Heng Ee is across the road…Here gone the peace of Dua Villa, and that by-pass road will be one of the most busiest road in Bayan Lepas… FV also will be seriously affected if has to use that damnnn busy road to access Jln Tun Dr Awang….

  172. Bryan
    January 12th, 2013 at 22:20 | #172

    @Mad

    Haha…. you are very funny.

  173. PG Guy
    January 13th, 2013 at 23:51 | #173

    Bryan :

    PG Guy :
    @Bryan
    In front is business suite. Across the street is Heng Ee. I think SIS permanent campus will be on the piece of land next to dua villas. Saw it was marked as “school” in Ideal Haus thread.

    Just explore the land besides Star, and there are already having construction work for industrial building in progress. So, it cannot be Heng Ee site.
    Also found from other newspaper that the land given to Heng Ee, is currently developed by Ideal Property. So, I am sure that Heng Ee site still at the land beside Dua Villa.
    http://www.nanyang.com/node/503547?tid=772
    SIS should be opposite Heng Ee across Jln Tun Dr. Awang.

    SIS should be starting the construction next month based on the news, let’s see whether it is next to Dua or across the street. Btw, the piece of land now occupied by squatters and workshops at the west of Star building, could it be the one that given to Heng Ee?

  174. Mad
    January 14th, 2013 at 08:30 | #174

    @Bryan
    This is no fun.. in the morning you try the road pass through the Chung Zen primary school near the old Sg Ara pasar there and see.. Those kids later most will be going to Heng Ee + those stay at SPI, Teluk Kumbar, One Residency…Shitttt………..

  175. Bryan
    January 14th, 2013 at 10:24 | #175

    @PG Guy

    But no development from Ideal at that area.

  176. PG Guy
    January 14th, 2013 at 10:59 | #176

    @Bryan

    Schools construction is not from Ideal. I only know the land belongs to Koperasi. That’s why i think Heng Ee will be across the street since the newspaper mentioned the land is donated by Koperasi and sits next to star publication.

  177. SP
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:14 | #177

    @Bryan
    I think there is a new project by ideal name Ideal Vision Park City opposite FV. Maybe there have a piece of land nearby The Star use for Hang Ee.

  178. Bryan
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:36 | #178

    @PG Guy

    @SP

    I see. Either in 1-R or besides Star, it is within 1.5km distance. Still a thumb up for me. Hopefully those people don’t play too much politic and delay the plan.

  179. Mad
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:48 | #179

    If Chung Shan primary school has to move because of airport noise, I don’t see the logic for another school beside/near to The Star building.. it is just across the road from Chung Shan… I think SIS will not be so stupid to choose there…

  180. SP
    January 14th, 2013 at 14:51 | #180

    @Mad
    The news has been out since 9th Jan 2013 and it’s beside “The Star” building and this was announced by Penang Chief Minister. Please read below news.
    http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2013/01/09/147.html

  181. Bryan
    January 14th, 2013 at 15:47 | #181

    @SP

    The reason I still think it is inside 1-R is, Ideal said Heng Ee will be built on the land beside Dua Villas. And the news from nanyang mentioned that Ideal is having other project on the land.

    http://www.nanyang.com/node/503547?tid=772

    If it is at the Vision Park, maybe true also. Btw, where is the Vision Park? Which part along the Jln Tun Dr Awang?

  182. SP
    January 14th, 2013 at 16:29 | #182

    @Bryan
    I knew this project from Facebook Fiera Vista Residents Community. You may try below link to get the master plan.
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151147244884290&set=o.152692301541423&type=1&theater

  183. Mad
    January 14th, 2013 at 17:15 | #183

    @SP
    The land beside Dua Villa should be SIS. The land size may not be 12 acres (for Heng Ee). SIS is 5 acres which about the size there. SIS also probably prefer to build on developed area rather than some “ulu” land.
    By the way, any concern on the airport noise for Heng Ee location beside The Star building? Later say want to move again…

  184. Bryan
    January 14th, 2013 at 17:54 | #184

    @Mad

    At the site near to Jln Tun Dr Awang, should not have much concern. I took a dinner (seafood porridge) nearby 2 days ago. Spending ~1 hours there not really aware if there is any take off/ landing. But when I drive into the round about of the Sg Tiram, a group of mat rempit at the end of the road. I believe the road will eventually connected to Jln Tun Dr Awang.

  185. Mad
    January 15th, 2013 at 19:06 | #185

    Only Heng Ee secondary school will be moved there. No primary school (or not yet?)

  186. YS
    January 16th, 2013 at 16:35 | #186

    be careful if u guys want buy this property since Ideal Property hv bad record for last few proj and the famous one was the housing proj in Bkt Tengah – Kystal Park which abandoned 6 years ago….Ideal Property is subsidiardy Kystal Point..this blacklist comp shld stop cheating ppl money !!

  187. PG Guy
    January 16th, 2013 at 16:41 | #187

    @YS

    So fast show your “tail”? Be smart abit…

  188. Bryan
    January 16th, 2013 at 17:04 | #188

    YS :
    be careful if u guys want buy this property since Ideal Property hv bad record for last few proj and the famous one was the housing proj in Bkt Tengah – Kystal Park which abandoned 6 years ago….Ideal Property is subsidiardy Kystal Point..this blacklist comp shld stop cheating ppl money !!

    So far, they completed i-Regency, CEO (with some delay), i-Suria, i-Avenue, 1-World 1, 1-World 2, 1 World commercial, Sathu Terrance and Dua Villas. Tree Residency is 60-70% completed, Fiera Vista fully sold, One Imperial 95% booked, Ideal Haus almost fully booked, Vision Park, Imperial 2 in the pipe line. If I am the boss of this company, I will not abandon my projects.

    Anyway, it is good to be caution when buying a property especially from developers with some old bad records.

  189. PPT
    January 16th, 2013 at 17:42 | #189

    @Bryan
    You should have judge the quality of i-regency, i-suria, i-avenue, and CEO. They are indeed very bad and delayed most of the time. Even there is a Youtube uploaded one of the clip of many buyer complaint abt CEO. Ideal is a family business. Previously they have a company declared for brankrupt before started Ideal Property. If you know their family background well you should know what they are doing.

    I do not assume they can’t deliver the possession. With the cheap price you got, expect what you will get back. Cheap quality, delay, and bad services for sure.

  190. Bryan
    January 16th, 2013 at 18:07 | #190

    @PPT

    I don’t think they can provide superb quality, but not lousy quality as well. Yet to verify 1-world 1 and 1-world 2 quality (not yet heard my friends complaint about it), but the quality on Sathu not that bad. Dua Villas got crack due to land issue, but Fiera Vista with piling work should not have the same problem. And there is no delay on 1-World series and 1-Residence series.

    Anyway, I think the developer history is not a secret in Pg island, and the sales guy admit on it every time I shoot them using their past records. But whether we should live in their past history, is individual call. And those worry a lot on this developer, should only consider SPS, IJM, MS, BS & E&O with some premium to pay. If no budget to pay the premium, you still have to look at the projects from this developer, of course with cautions.

  191. Mad
    January 16th, 2013 at 21:07 | #191

    It depends whether IDEAL got vision or just look at short term profit. They have learned their lesson with I-Regency & CEO, but I-World & 1-Residence have good start. Let see where IDEAL is heading, whether they want to spoil the good start for the last few projects or not. Ultimately, listing the company in stock market is the fastest way to be Super-duper rich.

  192. Penang Kia
    January 16th, 2013 at 21:52 | #192

    @Mad
    Yes, it is whether IDEAL want to stay in the current cut-throat war with so many small developers around, or playing catch-up with more reputable developers like SP Setia or Mah Sing. Imagine if One Imperial is by SP Setia, it will definitely super-hot and price better (check the sales of the pricey Pinnacle with the so-so location & design), rather than compete fiercely with Garden Ville by GSD (who is it? past record?). I doubt IDEAL (the boss/family) will have the 3rd chance if fail again this round. Company name can be changed but the history will remain in the internet age.

  193. Penang Lang
    January 16th, 2013 at 22:45 | #193

    @Penang Kia
    I am agree with you that OI layout is better than Pinnacle but not on the location. Even is deeper in the area, but it’s surrounded by luxury semi-d and also beautiful landscaping. While OI surrounded by mosque, market, condos, and school if you like to be crowded heavily in that area.

  194. Mad
    January 17th, 2013 at 08:16 | #194

    @Penang Lang
    location good or bad is very much up to personal preference.. some like schools and traffic jam, some like to have chai-tiam-ma just right below their apartments, some like to live in the jungle, some like to hear prayers 5 times a day, some like to have bus station next to them, etc etc..hahaha…

  195. Bryan
    January 17th, 2013 at 10:17 | #195

    Penang Lang :
    @Penang Kia
    I am agree with you that OI layout is better than Pinnacle but not on the location. Even is deeper in the area, but it’s surrounded by luxury semi-d and also beautiful landscaping. While OI surrounded by mosque, market, condos, and school if you like to be crowded heavily in that area.

    I think we need to be clear about location. Go or bad location, should follow the majorities like and dislike. For sure, location with amenities surrounding will be considered good, and location with semi-D surrounding, is only good for certain group of people.

    An easy way to differentiate is to look at the condo prices at Bayan Baru, Jalan Perak, Jelutong….. they are very crowded with heavy traffic, but still higher price, means more ppl like the location.

    So, don’t need to mention how beautiful your condo surrounding and how greeny they are, unless the price is really shoot up at the same level with those hot location.

  196. ezalor
    January 17th, 2013 at 10:35 | #196

    @Bryan
    You guy seem like buy property only to invest, but not buy property to stay.
    No wonder Penang property especially condo mostly “black” at night.

  197. Bryan
    January 17th, 2013 at 11:09 | #197

    ezalor :
    @Bryan
    You guy seem like buy property only to invest, but not buy property to stay.
    No wonder Penang property especially condo mostly “black” at night.

    You get me wrong. All the while, I buy property for my own family stay. The explanation given is to let everybody understand that, most ppl buy condo also wish to buy conveniences. There are some prefer more green area, but if you invite your parents stay with you, and you have children attending school, you will understand conveniences is still the top priority. For landed, there will be more ppl choose green area compared to condo, but still majority prefer conveniences.

    And, the more accurate way to judge a condo occupancy rate, is look at their car park after 11pm.

  198. FeiChan
    January 17th, 2013 at 15:06 | #198

    don’t invest on the Ideal Property proj !!

  199. I want to invest
    January 17th, 2013 at 15:10 | #199

    @FeiChan

    Thanks for the alert. Which project are you referring to? I think Ideal does not have any new project launching soon right?

  200. Oleg
    January 17th, 2013 at 18:11 | #200

    @

    FeiChan :don’t invest on the Ideal Property proj !!

    @FeiChan
    Please share with us… I will listen listen listen listen listen to you.

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