@Max,
i’m not the buyer yet but i’m just a bit concerns on that big tinted glass wall, i mean on how to secure it without damaging its nice outlook with grill. As told by the sales last week, there’re around 17unit left for banglo mostly facing west and i believe that is a big amount in term of unsell banglo unit.

My personal view is that i don’t think the guard house can be built within the entrance of 2nd row and 3rd row of the banglo area, may be in short term u can but if later on(in future) its nearby got new housing development and the ended roads might need to be opened to connect to the new housing areas, then your plan to setting up the guard house with a guard to protect the banglo’s area will be useless.

@PenangGuy
I agree with your comment on the price won’t up as economy starting going down, u can see the global market and klse performance then will know, in addition, there’re still many units of banglo/super semi-d unsell yet, coming budget on 07-Oct might stringent the housing plan especially on its exit tax and also the bank loan approval’s standard guildeline. This will worsen the developer’s plan to sell their house.

Developer has right to increase the price as what they want but if noone affordable to buy or interested to buy after the price increasing , then this will also impacted their profit. if I’m the developer, i will not dare to increase the house price in this current economy situation…. What i will do is try to give discount or promotion to potential buyers to ensure all houses can be quickly sell out…..in the fact of economy will be worsen and worsen … today klse collapse again with 34.14pts… so bad … hope factory’s lay off news will be minimal in coming weeks or years…but….let see…

Hi T1,
Thanks for your info.
Regarding that big tinted glass wall at the staircase, I can understand your concern.
Actually all bungalow houses built that way….coz the nature design of bungalow houses.
I would say so far I’ve never seen any bungalow build grill on that area…it looks really funny with the grill on. Alarm is a must and installed a motion detector light? or put on the protection tint on lower windows, not necessary on whole area.

Regarding the guard house, there’s dead end on the other side of the road.

Actually, bungalow can be build in many many ways…..

what’s the price of the bungalow? outlook seems to be nice

The developers will still come out with lots of housing projects regardless the economy good or bad. The prices will still going up, maybe not as terrible as now, but still will increase….:)

if the price increase, ppl not afford to buy it and lot units not sell out, at last those left units will become “ghost house” too, developers will “chap lap” also…rite? Developers is smart ppl, they increase the price because of ppl still buy it when they increasing it but that is only happened when economy is good in year 2009/10. Now economy confirmed in downturn and will hit property and banking sectors very soon. Buyers that buy the new property for investment purposes will first get impacted i think.

in addition, buyer also has choosing power now as lots of the housing development in mainland such as Aston Villa, Jesselton Hills, BM utama, Central Ways, juru height etc. still left with lots of the units. I heard that those developers start giving good discount to potential buyer to ensure their units can be sold in this competitive and hard time. Eg, Aston Villa start giving discount 5-8% on its housing price, central way give 20k rebate, juru height rebate 40k etc. I think more discount will come soon. this is a good news to the ppl that still have $$$$ to buy houses in this hard time.

BM Permai developer is loaded with cash. Since lauching till now, it almost nearly 2 years and they started advertised nearly mid of last year. They also plan to launch phase 2 with build and sold. Wait and see whether they will advertised on early of next year.
So, no worry of house cannnot sold issues as many kia su folks in penang plus tonnes of new working adults.
The good thing of new working adults is dare to take challenge especially in financial.
If not buy now, you will need to spend RM400k for terrace house in simpang empat before end of next year. May be with smaller land area.
For the economy downturn, it depend on the type of industry you are in.
So far, I have seen the strong demand and sales in this quarter even better than last year same quarter.

loaded with cash eventually will die too la if no buyers want to buy the houses All type of industry will be get impacted soon or later if global economy slow down or United Stated in double dips. some factories starting cutting ppls and tighten their budget now. No $$ No talks.

@MISC,

I have to agree with you, Simpang Ampat houses are now almost touching end of 3XXk. Even further down south places like Jawi, Sg Bakp and even N Tebal terrace houses are already 250k.

Tsunami is coming !! Factories production estimation will slow down 30-40% base on estimation !! factories cutting cost plus ppls will sure happen may be early of next year who know

Have a Plumeria Terrace Unit for Sale. Who ever interested, let me know.
FYI, all Plumeria Terrace Units are fully sold out.

Overview of BM Permai’s banglo/super semi D/terrace:
Pro:
1. Location good near carrefour;
2. Bigger build up size compare to other nearby housing development.
3. House building use red bricks.
4. Lengthy of car porch size compare to other nearby housing development.
5. OC will be obtained estimated this year end(according to developer)
6. You can shopping at carrefour while waiting for the traffic there become better. but if everyday need to go to carrefour first and wait for the traffic become smoother than can go back, problem too .

Cons:
1. Opposite road got masjid and cemetery, friday prays will make its main road jam like hell, free early morning calls.
2. Whole taman got only one road connected to jalan bukit minyak, traffic there always jam like hell during office hour and after office hour.
3. The main road in front of its super semiD will jam like hell and will be long queue waiting if most of the residend there a working couples. Let’s say if every house got 2 cars, so estimated # of cars in morning’s office hour will be around 242 cars(assuming total units = 121), so 242 cars will be using one main road to go out from the taman, imaging what will be the traffic there especially during office hour…oh no!!!
4. Its house price very expensive especially for mini banglo, mini banglo’s both side land only 5.5ft. Really “mini” but its price not “mini”.
5. Surrounding got malay houses and kampung, not easy for goverment to widen the main road. The changes to widen the main road looks like 0%.
6. House’s outlook a bit old design compare to nearby housing development.
7. Quality of interior materials so so, not in high quality compare to nearby housing development.
8. Banglo units that still left a lots mostly are facing west, buyer need to wear sun glasses when open the house’s door..just kidding.. i belive the house simen/mosaic will be hot and can boil eggs in hottest day..kidding again. If your fengshui is ok for west side, then good news to you as you can still have a chance to choose the units you like.
9. If developer can’t sell out all the unsell units after OC obtained, the taman will become very “quiet” especially at banglo areas, you may got no neighbour due to your side houses may become abandon houses if developer can’t find buyers.
10. After office hour, not easy to turn into the taman unless the car driver on the otherside road gentlement enough to let you go first. Developer sure will draw a yellow box at entrance, but most of time, lot of drivers will choose “close eye” and pretend not to “see” it.
11. Beware of motocycles when you plan to turn into the taman..if accident happened, then half of the taman resident will be crying due to they cannot go back home on time(i assuming half of the taman’s resident are at home and not go out)..kidding again..

Stop here first..lazy to type …still got lot of pro/cons in my mind to share with you all

For those people want to bull shit around with empty knowledge, I do not want to waste energy to entertain it even with changing multiple nicknames.
Simple steps to see economy, use jobstreet as the reference.

If VSS, you will see tonnes news in newspaper. It will not be our civilian turn to annouce the news.

Just for your info, terrace and semi D is fully sold even in phase 1. Even you loaded with cash also useless. There are not many units left for bangalow and super semi D. Phase 2 price will be much more higher.

The price is getting higher and higher in BM area. even BM Utama dare to sold RM580k for semi-D with 5 units left and phase 3 is half way of completion.

@pro_n_con

I agreed with you on the Cons statement. The car volume can double up the number that you have it as tonnes of rich folks over there can owned more than that number of cars.

But I’m sure with min half an hour or longer, it should be able to get thru traffic light which is 1km or less from BM permai. If not, spend 1 hour to reach traffic light.

forget to add in 1 pro and 1 cons. here is it:

pro:
7. free S&P, legal/loan agreement, stamp duty and misc fees.

cons:
12. Developer increase the price from its original 598k to 658k for banglo unit and i think they plan to increase it again. Price increasing “indirectly” mean that you’ve to bear those fee fees(S&P, legal/loan, stamp duty and ect..) that given by developers. Think other way will sound like you’re not getting any free stuffs from developer, cause they like to increase the price, from 598k to 638k to 658k and ???
13. Got one telecommunication towers near to the taman, not sure it is owned by maxis or telecom. if you think that tower will not harm your health, then just ignore this point.
14. I believe the size of entrace road(front of super semi-D) is only 20ft, too narrow. if resident parking they cars outside of the road, it will make the traffic more worst.

to be continued….

sorry have to add in another 1 cons ..

cons:
15. i noticed in this blog, someone mentioned there’re still left 17units of banglo few months ago. According to sales when i walked in yesterday, there’re still left 17units of banglo. Looks like the number of sell unit of banglo not moving at all. I guess may be of its higher price and traffic that scare the potential buyers.

I believe everyone who brought BM permai / BM utama will realize the traffic jam issue at jln bukit myk.

Below is some of my point of view for the traffic jam issue:
1) If it would take me 15 mins to reach BM permai fr Carrefour traffic light, then reaching BM utama will be 20 mins.
2) If it would take me 10 mins to reach carrefour fr BM permai entrance, then BM utama will take 15 mins.

Those who living at BM permai/BM utama that need to work at island will realize the different soon. But sometimes do we have a choice?

Who don’t wish to have a house with easy access, 5mins to pg bridge, 5 mins to any hypermarket(jusco,tesco), 5 mins to Autocity plus no traffic issue. If you found one, then I bet it sure over your budget. If not, the location will be use to build Malays housing estate.
Bandar perda & Pauh Jaya for examples.

Apart of that, 20 ft is the road standard length for housing estate.

Pro_n_con, thanks for your long comments. However, I find some of it really funny:

-Regarding the traffic issue, this happens to BM Utama and connected housing areas as well. As you need to go thru the same road, and it takes longer time to reach due to the traffic lights in between the 2 areas.

-Have you checked BM Utama Semi-D price?? FYI, it’s RM580k, with less than 3k sq.ft.
BM Permai mini bungalo has 3.5ksq.ft, it’s a bungalow and price at RM658k. Do the math.

-Do you read newspaper?? This road in front of the property will get widen sooner or later. This road leads to many important and growing area in future. For Example, Alma Housing Area. You mentioned 0% of chances……what makes you so assure of it?

-I like your 121units, each units with 2cars going out exactly at the same time part…that’s the best part of your whole paragraph….and it makes my day…

I just read this from Pro_n_con again:

11. Beware of motocycles when you plan to turn into the taman..if accident happened, then half of the taman resident will be crying due to they cannot go back home on time(i assuming half of the taman’s resident are at home and not go out)..kidding again..

Are you going all others properties, listing out those incompetent Pro n Cons at the same time?
It looks like Penang doesn’t suit you much, I suggest you try Perlis or Kedah area. NO Traffic Issues, Cheap, Huge Land Area and even each house come out with 5 cars at exactly same time, it won’t jam…..LOL

I think my comments is realistic and not just simply wrote. But for the ppls that already bought the unit there, then they will sure not agree with me, i understand that

For ppl that interested to buy, then this pro and cons points might be meaningful for you to consider before actions.

Let’s see the points(on Cons part) that i brought up here will become reality or not, especially on traffic issues when house buyers started living there next year.

The best location i foresee is at central of Bukit Mertajam. Bm utama better a bit compare to Alma area due to ppl can take alternate route(Kota permai –> Song Ban kheng road –> bayu mutiara) to avoid jalan bukit minyak’s traffic. At lease they have alternate route, but for BM permai, you don’t have choice cause you only have one road to drive on. That’s jalan bukit minyak .

It’s true that the areas mentioned are congested and some areas only
certain time of the day. As to escape from those heavily congested areas,
why not start to look for some other areas.

In fact in and around Bukit Mertajam are the worst areas not to mention
in central BM. For those from Penang,these areas are definitely not a
wise choice.It will take hours for you to reach home from Penang.

@Max & mm,
Yes, you are right. I was totally agreed with you.
After tonne of explaination, it seem we are communicate with ass hole that cannot understand human words.
we need to keep on emphasize the traffic flow in BM. It really hard to find unjamed area in BM and don say about penang island. Even taking short cut, may not save time too.

For those plan to buy property, below map will help you overview the location.
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=5.3398268&lon=100.4489636&z=16&l=0&m=b

Jalan Song Ban Kheng is also very jam. It is same as Jalan Bukit Minyak.
How come BM permai only have one road??? They also can use Kota permai road as well to link to Jalan Song Ban Kheng.

Actually BM Utama & BM Permai is on the same boat.
Local Authority will have to do something for the population increase in the near future.

@TLS,

Pro and Con is right. BM permai only have 1 entrance only, u can take kota permai road too but first u need to pass to the other side of the main road first, not easy to pass to other side of the main road lor when the road jam. u will get what i meant when u go to the BM permai’s site and survey its surrounding. Beside the main road got mosque and also malay’s cemetery, do u think local authority will move the mosque and cemetery just to widen the road? i think hard…may be can happen in 30yrs time..MISC posted a map location, go and see it and u will find cemetery there, beside cemetery is a mosque.

Tell the truth points also get shoot. Very funny! Be professional pls.

@MISC
tq for the map, look likes Pro and Con correct, got “KUBUR MASJID LEBAI HASHIM” at opposite road. Headache la if like that, the main road cannot be widen liao.

@Pro_nCon,
tq for the valuable pro and cons views, it give the person like me from penang to know better the areas. It helps a lot to the byers espcialy not a local ppl that stay at bukit minyak areas. pls continue to feedback the truth of the areas. if u know other nearby housing areas, then pls comment too. we will judge when go to see the site. kam xia ah.

@TL
For sure, no one will turn to Kota Permai from BM Permai as just 1km or less from Carrefour traffic light.
If massive jam, how long it can takes? Is half an hour enough?
If massive jam, the coverage area, it will rach BM industry as well.
If using Kota Permai access, I think someone looking for jamed together with BM Utama resident.

The jam will be happened if there is new residence project. It’s the fact but need to choose wisely a good location and comment smart after surveying plus common sense.

@MISC
I’m totally agreed with you.
From the map shown, it not far away from the Carrefour traffic light compare with BM Utama.
Hence, the road explansion road is not needed as well.
Person who stay close to alma or BM will be suffer.

good to find this web site. at least i know better the areas now. bad and good comments should be posted here. buyer not blind, they can see themselves when go to visit show unit. anyhow concerns like congested traffic, mosque, cemitery will create a problem too. the unit price is around 700k, not 400k. if staying in 700k house and everyday need to face congested traffic, early morning got automatic calls to wake me up, then not worth it i think.

thanks much for the views no matter good or bad. i need to search other areas again
good talk

But moving a malay grave yard for road widening is alomost impossible in Malaysia.
I believe our federal road planning will have room for widening.
If cant 2 by 2(2 lanes in both direction), then it can be 2 by 1.

Actually the jam root cause is the carrefour traffic light. Hope it will construct flyover, just like in front of bayu mutiara.

If want to find a place without traffic jam, I really don know where. Maybe if you guys manage to find such a location, pls kindly share to us. In Penang island, even you are staying 700k housing area or above million housing area, you will face the traffic jam as well, coz everywhere is jam….. Penang traffic is getting bad especially during the festive season or long weekend. Look around the gurney area, straight quay, pulau tikus area, those are rich people housing area…..still the traffic is massive.

how much the selling price for the Plumeria Terrace Unit@Max

@CW

It’s not convenience to discuss here. Your Email? or HP? Thanks.

Wah… very interesting forum. But I am more interested on where Pro_n_Con stay. For my understanding, the con which list by him is a common con in Penang (island n midland). Since few years ago until today I am still not able to find any location in Penang without the above con.

@Pro_n_Con
From your above comment, I believe ur house should be in very good and nice location. Appreciate u can share with us where u stay? I really want to buy a house there. Thanks in advance.

Im actually staying at Pauh Jaya now. In case you all don’t know. It locates at jln baru, garden opposite the Tan Chong Nissan.

Besides mostly occupied by malays & slow increase in housing prices, Pauh Jaya can consider one of the strategic location in mainland.
1) penang bridge within 10 mins
2) Sunway Carnival mall, carrefour, tesco seberang jaya, all within 10 mins.
3) Jusco BM within 5 mins.
4) Autocity within 12 mins
5) No traffic jam issue.

Fr pg to mainland during office hrs, where the bridge jam the most at toll area, I only need to jam until the Exit to Jln Baru which is about 1km fr the toll. If you stay at Raja Uda, still need to jam a long way towards JPJ direction.

@max.
Where is plumeria terrace? Which developer? Interested to know it

@DTTL

Scroll to the top of this page, it’s the Terrace Units under BM Permai.
Developer is WHH.

I think the problem with BM Permai location are
– traffic light at carrefour need to wait very long
– the main road in front is narrow

I’ve been using the route when back to BM from work at 5:30pm quite a few times. Main problem is waiting at the traffic light, which takes a lot of time. When turning into the road leading to kota permai, it’s like 3 lanes into one, traffic slow but still moving, sometimes stop a bit because of traffic light at kota permai, not very bad.

However, the main issue I can foresee is when BM Permai residents are turning in and out of the taman to the main road. It’s difficult to come out from the taman, esp if no one want to give way to u. If resident want to turn right to the direction of Alma then even worse. Turning in to taman is the worst, u stop in the middle of the road, hard to turn in, and block traffic at your back and cause worse jam behind. They should at least widen the road in front of the junction into 2 lanes.

BD

u r right. widen the road in front of the junction into 2 lanes is necessary to avoid blocking the traffic at your back.

@BD,

120% agreed with you when you’re saying the main issues for BM permai is turning in turning out to/from the main road. As i mentioned, if local authority have plan to widen the main road, then it will solve the traffic issue there but personally i don’t think it will be happened tough as the mosque and cemetery is right beside the main road, not that easy to ask malay to move their mosque plus cemetery, Besides, the BM permai’s resident 130% sure will hear the morning calls every days from the nearby mosque, the call normally ring at 5.45AM-5.50AM. If think positively, the resident there will save on morning alarm cost . It is not too bad for working days but for non-working days, then will be headache cause of that morning calls….

I’m interested in this project currently.
I visited the WHH main office 2days ago and visited the show house on site as well.

I’m surprise that, while everyone discussing on it’s traffic issues, seems that nobody ever mentioned about the other entrance/exit from the area. This housing area has another entrance/exit that link to the Bukit Minyak traffic lights located next to the Teik Onn Factory. Hopefully you guys get what I mean here..

Regarding the main road, it is one of my concern too. However, the office lady pretty assure this road will get widen sooner or later like someone mentioned above.

And the mosque is not that close that the whole area able to listen while praying going on.
I would say the first few units of Super Semi-D might get affected but the normal Semi-D and bungalow are totally safe from the noise. Terrace units, totally not affected.

Regarding the price, I read that some people call it “expensive”…but seriously, how do you define expensive? You can’t call it expensive because you can’t afford it…no offense. You need to calculate it by Sq.Ft it covers. I did some research on surroundings housing prices, the closest one would be BM Utama. Their Phase 3 Semi-D is currently selling at RM560k….

@Jewel Bayu Villas just before the turn in Semi-D is 467K I think open house this weekend land 35×80 build up 2500sqft. I agreed currently jam at traffic light and turning to BM permai housing is problem as I experienced when coming to view as the houses are nice. People on Island side wondering to buy bigger house mainland or buy 2-3x price on Island. Travel time and also those with kids education a factor. Cannot decide as worry if don’t buy now cannot get price again. On the other hand pick-up seems a bit slow wonder if bubble burst is coming?
Considering between the two projects and wonder if the 100m distance makes a difference going to FTZ or Georgetown to work? Appreciate inputs from those with actual experience. Thanks.

@Jewel,

FYI, according to Bm Permai’s sales girl, only one entrace there, no road will be connected to traffic light at Teik Onn factory as of now. The mosque is just opposite the BM permai, acoording to my fren that stay at taman bukit minyak near carrefour, they can hear the early morning call that what Pro_n_Cons commented before. Taman bukit minyak is quite far from the BM permai and the resident there can hear that morning call, do you think BM permai’s residend will not affected by the noise?

@K,
Mainland’s chinese secondary school(goverment one) only have two which are chun lin(in raja uda) and jit sin(near taman seri rambai), the rest mostly are malay schools. Not much choice if you plan to send your kids to chinese school, penang better compare to mainland if talking on kids’s education. For travel time, if you’re working in island, then staying in island better than mainland, everyday you need to catch the time if your working time is not flexi, you will be “TL” if everyday need to catch up the time, trafiic jam and passing the penang bridge.

@jewel – The sales girl bull shit u laa, she just want to sell out the house and saying that she pretty assure that the main road will be widen soon or later..like that u pun believe here..hahaha… if you drive on the main road, u will see both side got malay houses and their land is just beside the road nia.. that main road hard to make it big liao… pakatan goverment already repair the longkang with simen longkang, originally it just a tanah longkang. if that main road will be widen, penang gov no nid to belanja banyek duit to upgrade it liao mah….betul tak? hahaha..like that lu pun percaya the sales girl punya cakap..

@Ooi
Are you sure that the early morning call that your fren heard is from the mosque opposite BM permai. Taman Bukit minyak is more than 500m away from that mosque..
If that’s the case, i guess everyone cannot avoid from the sound as in malaysia every 1km we will find one mosque somewher around.
Latest update from the sales office just now, the bungalow left 16 units and the super semi-D left 6 units.

@venus,

Yep, according to my fren that stayed there, they said taman bukit minyak got one small surau but the morning call that they heard not from that surau(due to that surau looks like not funtioning now), cause it quite loud and should come from the nearby mosque. The bigger mosque nearby that they know is just beside BM permai. No offence here.
Early next year if BM permai can get OC, then only can proof what has told by my fren to me is true or not. i mean can get the fact from the BM permai’s residence then they sure can tell whether the morning call make them crazy or not.

@H1N1, no offence, but I really find it difficult to understand what you trying to talk here..

@Ooi,
Agree with Venus here. I’m wondering where does your fren live??
The distance between the new Carrefour to the mosque is like 800m already, and the housing area is further behind Carrefour…

Which girl told you there’s only 1 entrance? Name? Ms. Irene from the office told me there will be another entrance/exit that link to the teik onn traffic lights.

wondering whether BM permai project is a threat to others developers? suddenly so many CONs about the area….
whoever think it is not worth to buy, you can look for other projects, you don have to repeating telling the TRAFFIC JAM and the mosque. everywhere also traffic jam, mosque morning call also can not kill people….

Exactly Jade…totally agree with you on this.
Sometimes I’m wondering if they are all the same person, log in using different nickname.
How come each of them repeating the same thing over and over again…

If you guys really aware of current situation in BM, it’s traffic jam everywhere.

For those who doesn’t like BM Permai, go look for nearby Titi Panjang-Bayu Villas, no traffic jam and no mosque and the price is cheaper compared to BM Permai. But one thing, every morning, you need to drive all the way to Carrefour Traffic light to make a U-Turn, if you are heading bridge or prai direction. and you better pray every single day for no heavy rain….

Talking about mosque, i have something to say, actualy my current house surround by 3 mosques.

1) 200m at the back of my house have 1 small mosque;
2) 500m at the side of my house have a medium mosque;
3) 1km in front of my house have a big & nice arabic style mosque.

I live here for 10 yrs and never heard any morning call before, im still using my hp as my alarm clock.

I think the mosque issue is just an exaggerated concern, unless it is extremely close to your house. Anyway, whether you can hear the sound depends on the loudness & direction of the speakers. If you can hear the sound, can it really wake u up from your sleep? For those who stay near airport or main road or highway is even worse, planes and big lorry or mat rempit pass by can create high level of noise even in the middle of the night. If you hear the sound long enough, you may also be “immune” to it later. If think positively, the sound from a distant mosque can be a sound of tranquility early in the cool morning, good for those who wake up early.

Max, my email add is siyuyang_tan@yahoo.com

thanks.

@Max

i found very funny on this site. Buyer that already bought it like Max, mm, JADE or BD or some using nick names(actually the same persons i think) are trying to give good views on this project while others that not buy it yet gives their views too but mostly on correct views especially on the narrow one entrace to the taman plus traffic issues.

if i will buy the house there, i will get all views in hand first and go to check the site to see whether the given views in here are true or false. See and feel by ourself is the most true one . i will go during office hour and after office hour to feel the traffic there first. thanks all for your input.

@ooi

Yes, we all agree on the narrow entrance and traffic issues. Did anyone here saying that the traffic is totally smooth and the entrance to the site is like 100m wide? NO!

Be frank, if you refer back to current traffic issue today, Who causing this?? BM Permai residents??? NO!! It’s the Alma growing residents plus BM Utama New residents, or someone who has been living in Kota Permai. We all aware of the traffic issue today.

Jalan Song Ban Kheng is also jammed during evening hours. Not to mention BM Town…u know I know.

It’s so simple, Next year, when BM Permai is done and all new residents moving in, which housing area using the longest time to reach home?? BM Permai or Alma residents??

@max,

i think it will depend on how many optional routes that will have for resident staying in Alma area and BM Permai. Honestly i think the changes for local authority to widen the Song Ban Keng road is high compare to the front main road at BM permai. This is due to both sides of Song Ban Keng road stilll got empty lands. Local authority no need to move malay graveyard or their kampung to widen the road.

If Song Ban Keng road can be widen in future, then Alma resident can reach home early than BM permai due to there’re many alternative roads for Alma residents to take.

FYI, Song Ban Keng road already confirmed by our CM Lim Guan Eng that there will be widening to 2 lanes each. I heard that new early June this yr. He even say the widening will not 100% eliminate the traffic issue at BM but at least can reduce the congestion.

If we measure fr pg bridge, no way Alma resident will reach home early as it too far away compare to BM pemai.
Both BM permai & even BM utama also can use Son Ban keng as an alternative to reach their home through kota permai.
What I wan to point out here is no matter which alternative also, we need to pass by BM permai/BM utama then only reach alma.

@mm, you’re worng brother , may be you’re not BM’s resident. to reach alma without passing thru BM utama and BM permai, there are many routes you can take. This is just one of it –>from jalan song ban keng and then reach new build fly over’s traffic light, from the traffic light turn right and then go straight(you will see taman keenways at your left, your right site is under contruction 2.5 storey houses developing by Boon siew group. go straight again and then turn left when you meet traffic light, then go straight to Alma. if u interested, i can tell u another route to Alma without passing BM utama/Bm permai. I believe Alma or BM local residdent will tell u the same too

If not mistaken, state gov said before can start SBK road widening by Aug this year, but now….. not only no sign of starting work, the double track project even created a single lane bottle-neck area at the U-turn in front of Honda showroom. Why don’t they just do it siap-siap 2 lanes there?

From Pg to Alma, can try the route of Jln Baru – Perda – Cross St – BM Old town – Jln Kulim, then either through Tmn Alma or Tokun to Alma. Actually BM town center does not have too many cars after 5pm.

@alma resident,
ya, u r right. the one you mention is the other way around to reach alma.
But isn’t it the same as using song ban keng as well.
Besides, doesn’t it too far away. using the route you mentioned?

No offence but Alma for me is a bit far & traffic jam from my point of view, no matter for Kulim or bkt myk direction.

@BD
May be they wanna settle the flyover project only start the widening of SBK. Govt project always delay one la…

the route you mention even more far lo…

Far a bit but better than no alternative routes to reach home. And if song ban keng road can be widen, then will make the traffic there smoother, traffic smoother meaning can reach home early

to widen or not to widen whatever roads is not for us to discuss here…. no point, as we are not the goverment, needless to argue about the issues.

@ooi
we, the owners did some survey before purchase, including the mosque, malay area, and the traffic problems. don you think repeating those issues over here make this forum quite boring?! i believe whoever wanna buy property surely will go to the site, instead of going thru the property forums to decide.

yes…i am agreed with you….some of them try to sell out the units also…are they hired by the developer or they r investor who buy the house there, and now they 1 to sell it out for profit…economic now really not good lo…i think we as a consumer, we should control the housing price instead of developer or investor…who speculated the house price until it is not affordable by those makan gaji ppl….@ooi

@mm
No matter what route we choose from Pg bridge to Alma, the max difference is about 3-4km. I prefer route with shorter traveling time and less frustration (traffic jam and seeing drivers cut queue like their grandpa’s road), even though it has longer distance

Fully agree with WL, Ooi and Pro_n_Cons’s comment. Bingo!!

Fully agree with Jade, mm, BD, Max and OM’s comments. Super Bingo!!

Fully agree with k9’s comment…super duple bingo…haha…

hahahaha…. k9,k10,k11…. u guys brothers and sisters is it?!?!

k9, k10, k11 thanks for creating some fun here

Wonder is the road ready yet ? Wish to go and see the my ‘$’ house again….but the gate is locked…..:(

@angie
which type you bought?

my gate isn’t locked, but the house front and back door is locked…

@Angie
They already paved the road in front of the house. but i think that is not the finished one.. For the mainroad, according to the sales girl.. they need about two months to complete it..
So.. Max and angie you all bought for living or to invest?

@Venus

I bought for own stay.
How about you? which type you own?

Visited the show unit. Entrance to the taman very small and narrow!! Found no other alternates road to go out/in from/to the taman except that narrow entrance. Developer just want to make money without thinking on purchaser’s feeling on the entrance issues

So big Tangki indah water in BM permai, got smell najis bo later on? Why developer build so big tangki indah water there ah? To be shared by the nearby housing areas in future?

@Venus, I bought for living too, not to invest or rent out. What about yours?

@k10, yours is terrace?

looking forward for the OC.. but told by the office either end of this year or early next year

Hi, @Venus, @Max , @k10….mine is terrace. No enuf $ to get semi-D. Also for own stay. Hope to see you guys later at BM Permai…
wow…road also need so long time ?

yes..two months including electricity..i also bought teracce ..we will be neighbours soon..:)

Looks like more ppls buy there for investment. Now investor wanted to clear in hand stocks and running out from the property market before economy really worst. Not getting OC started to sell now. Wow!!

Anyone interested to buy BM’s permai terrace? The contact is here – http://www.mudah.my/BM+Permai-11439998.htm

@k9
what makes you think that “Looks like more ppls buy there for investment”??
anything to support your sentence? beside the “one” link you found??
coz from this forum, so far, I’ve know more than 6 owners and none of us are buying for investment purpose, all for own stay.

Go study Central Way at Bukit Tengah forum, there’s really ppl start cancelling after booking…

Not getting OC and started selling, nothing weird about it. Last time same thing happened to BM Utama Semi-D units, and it’s alot…..

agreed with Max. So far i only found one link selling BM permai….
I am one of owner for terrace ^ ^

More selling will come after OC obtained.. don’t worry

Hi Max, pls check your email….thanks…@CW

Now can see the entrance’s shape, really small entrance .. with that size of entrance, it will be a traffic(in/out) bottleneck later. Crazy developer !

overally, the road is bad and environment is not good.

owners, any update about the site? my last visit there were very messy, as they were doing the cables. what’s the latest condition there? any news about the OC ?

when can get the OC??

Surely can’t make it within this yr. I predict the will be around Mar 2012.

why turn out to be so late? any reason behind??

i think due to the raining season, most of the construction work also slow down.. any idea what is the TNB pole for? street lamps?

raining is one of the reason.
besides, developer style lo…you compare with BM utama phase 2 then u will know.
if i am not mistaken BM utama phase 2 completed around June(with house number install) and until now still waiting OC…

is the bm permai cable underground? if all the tnb pole carrying the cable, it will look not nice in the area i checked with the sale person, but she seem don know anything.

@Jade

Only GnG concept will have cable underground. For BM permai, the TNB cables will be at the top, same as normal taman.

@Pro_n_Cons

why only GnG concept have cable underground? because of the maintainance fee?

@Pro_n_Cons
That’s not true. Bayu Mutiara has underground cable.

I believe underground cable will cost more compared to poles for TNB cable. I stand to be corrected. Developer just want to save money. TNB poles are outdated. klang valley’s residential projects (majority) started to use underground cable about 5 to 6 years ago. It looks nice and neat.

@Jade

Underground cable more expensive. Developers main point is to earn $$$ from their housing project, why they need to make their project works more complicated like putting cables underground, complicated meaning need to pump in more workers and money :-). Unless developers really care the exterior outlooks of the taman. But for BM permai, i don’t think TM and TnB cables will be placing underground. If they have it, developer sure will tell upfront cause this will become another selling point to attract buyer.

@steve

Good to hear that !! That’s mean Bayu Mutiara’s developer more concerns and putting more efforts on their project to attract buyers

Actually not difficult to find out whether it is underground or not. Just take a look at the house design. If the power cable is underground, then the meter will be located at gate pillar.

@steve

That is not true too. It will depend on how developer plan for the meter location. I saw one of my fren house’s meter placing at gate pillar but their taman TM and TnB cables are not underground . The best to know is ask the project’s developer. if developer also don’t know the answer, that is mean “cables not go underground !” 😉

Drop by BM Permai today.
Aiyoyo …. so lucky i did not buy the mini bungalow lot.
I can see so may TnB tiang along the road, it totally not match this high end standard area. If i pay 0.5 million for a house, i should not see this tiang. It only make it look no class.
I can see not the developer increase the price. Sell it if you have make money. It does not look good.
One more thing, the entrance junction …. oh my God ! ……. so narrow and also not proper design ……

Pass by this project …… those lamp pole is an eye sore to visiter.
It totally not much this mini banglow status.
Better buy those Villa-villa ,,,,,

Can’t expect too much as this project is not GnG. Somemore it is not fully high-end housing estate as it consists of Terrance & SemiD too.

anyone know when can get OC ?

seem like the 2nd phase semid start selling already
type A 720k above
type B 616k above

the person in change said another 3 month to OC for the phase 1, 6 month for the phase 2.

ya,just went yesterday, 2nd phase show house open for viewing, phase 1 road name and house number already install. With this condition OC will get around 3 mths.

2nd phase already launch?? got any unit for terrace house for 2nd phase??

the phase2 mentioned is the extra 20units SemiD(red color in the master plan), located behind the Super SemiD.

Terrace for 2nd phase still need to wait. Maybe after phase 1 OC obtained or developer completed the 20units SemiD.

it would be a perfect development for this BM Permai if it is a Gated property…..

out loom of the house is nice, but other like, the road, lamp poles, cabel poles, telecomm poles all not under ground, make it become not nice. The enterance road also not nice. too bad.

How much for the semi-D

yes, agree all the poles and cable sure minus all the good point of bm permai. What a waste. . . . .

any one is plumeria garden owner?

Please let me know how much the semi detach 4K sq ft it?

plumeria garden sold out?

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they said oc will get in march@BM　Ｇｕｙ

oc will get in march

I saw someone selling 2 storey @ RM380K in newspaper. He/she should do invest at Penang island instead of Mainland…. :S

the entrance so small, many tnb poles, heavy traffic…… why looking for units here?? go for others projects….. !!!

Anyone know the actual date to get the OC? Thanks…

Any unit left? Any new phases coming up?
Traffic is not an issue. You just need to wait a while for the traffic light in front of carrefour. After that is smooth.

Traffic lights only create jams and helpful to those slow drivers.

Traffic light is not the main point. How many unit left for sale? What is the coming projects?
Would like to understand the growth potential of this location.

Many seem to like traffic lights and jams. In mainland good location is
only B’worth area. BM , Juru and B. Minyak are for those mainland people.

Butterworth? Where? chain ferry or Chai Leng Park or Inderawasih? These location have less school. Most of the good schools are located in BM area. The new housing project near Inderawasih does not have high occupancy also. Raja Uda area is good but traffic is also an issue and price is also slightly higher compare to BM. Location have traffic jam means good and high price. Just look at Gurney Drive.

Near to Harbour Place should be a nice location. If you traffic have jam
in Gurney Drive is because you are in a city. In BM , Juru and B. Minyak
are small towns or kampung.

Is actualy own preference either Butterworth or BM area.
I grown up at Chai Leng Park/Inderawasih area, i like it location very much, go anywhere(ferry, bridge,Tesco, Carrefour, Jusco, Autocity) also within minutes away, but no more land for new project there.

Now Butterworth also facing traffic issues, jam is all the way from PG bridge toll area to JPJ roundabout to Mak mandin area.

Ya, BM,Juru & Bkt Myk are kampung area but all those Shopping Complexs/Hypermarkets/Happening areas is located at these Kampung area…While Butterworth only have Econsave…

BM is actually a very strategic place. If you look at the 1 hour travel distance, you can reach Georgetown, Bayan Lepas, Butterworth, Sungai Petani and Kulim. There are millions of jobs opportunities available within 1hour travel distance. In addition, new industries area like Bukit Minyak, Penang Science Park and Batu Kawan is coming up fast.
House price is also growing fast. The average of new landed house price is 500k. If you look at Jalan Song Bang Kheng, the property price is shooting up crazy. The next will be Jalan Bukit Minyak. Traffic flow is high. The new housing projects along the road like BM Permai, Permai Jaya and BM Utama look promising. What do you think?

my loan approve already. Hope can get OC asap…

@kang
are you buying semi-D ? Just sign for it ? Welcome to BM Permai ! 😛

Wow! Any units left for sale?

@angie
I bought a mini bungalow. Next week will back to penang sign all the agreement.This is my 1st time buy a house. So exciting…

Are you 1 of the owner too?

@kang

I’m one of the owner for mini bungalow too!

@kang
Oops, i am only a mini terrace owner… Can’t afford on bungalow. 😛 Where are you working ? I am also excited too to get a landed house. 😛
Is the mini bungalow just launch or ….long time ago..? i am very confuse of the houses name there…too many type of houses in BM Permai. haaa…

Will meet u guys there ..kang and max !

@kang,
welcome to the neighbourhood….

welcome Kang and Max

can’t wait for the OC….

@T
hi…T

@angie
Now i work at China, guangzhou.i just back from there and monday go to sign SnP.As i know, the bunglow launch long time alrdy.this house also left from bumi lot.

May be we can meet when get the oc…

@Jade
nice to meet u too…

Besides Jade, T, Max, Angie & Kang… Who else is BM Permai owner?

hi, i am also owner there but just plumeria garden/. nice to meet u all

hi, i was one of the owner too at bukit minyak permai, but i only buy terrace house. but i damn angry with the developer, due to in front my house got 1 TNB tiang totally in front of my class sliding door 2nd pcs. it damn ugly and i ask the developer ppl to remove it and did you all know what they tell me. As the oppsite is the RM500k house, if they remove the TNB tiang to left a bit, it will block the opposite ppl (RM500K) house door, what the hell is the answer is that, and they simply remove the tree in front the ISLAND and put the TNB tiang beside it. Because as myself is an electronic engineer, i know that the TNB tiang should not be on my house island according to the counting, but as i guess, due to the opposite RICH PEOPLE COMPLAINT do not put the TNB tiang in front their door, so the developer shift the TNB tiang and KENA my house 2nd pcs glass sliding door. NOW I WANT TO ASK THE DEVELOPER, NOW THAT TIANG IS IN FRONT MY HOUSE ISLAND, WHAT THE HELL GOT LINK WITH THE OPPOSITE RICH PEOPLE HOUSE.
ANYONE CAN GIVE ME ANY SUGGEST SO THAT I CAN CALL THE TNB PPL TO REMOVE IT?

somemore did u all release that, why we pay RM328K but the accessory they provide is damn low quality, for example the gate door. why no people complain about that? since i can saw that TAMBUN INDAH got a lot of owner they will go and complain to get a better service.

i really dissapointed with this developer as when i say out my TNB Tiang Problem, they say this is not their responsible and finally, they say they can do anything, due to if they shift the TNB tiang to left hand side a bit, it gonna KENA THAT OPPOSITE ORANG KAYA(RM500K) PINTU, NOW KENA MY HOUSE(RM300K) PINTU NO PROBLEM? KENA ORANG KAYA PINTU IS BIG PROBLEM? IN ADDITION THE DEVELOPER SALES PERSON SAY SINCE I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE TIANG WHY NOY YOU SELL OFF THIS HOUSE, STILL A LOT PEOPLE WANT IF U DONT WANT. THIS IS THE SERVICE YOU ALL GIVE TO ME? TARAF RIA DEVELOPER?

i also want to complain the TNB cabling, make our home looks like spider web.

i dislike the toilet tiles actually as all are plain white color. it look very low standard. At least provide some color tiles with simple design so that i no need to do renovation on the toilet.

I also dislike the TNB cabling + toilet tiles + gate….
Not nice d…..
Did anyone discover the outdoor paint also low quality….
Some house starting dirty liao…

Yup, as you can see some sample house already underbrush, somemore why our developer never put our TAMAN NAME in big scene, so that people know this is BM PERMAI as what the BM UTAMA did? So simple thing they also never think about it? no need say about the main road or what what problem. I really face problem cant to communicate with the Sales Person as they what also duno. Actually who is the person in charge?

Yes.i agree with you.. they din really care about the landscape. At least should plant more trees or put up a proper board showing this is BM permai.. All i can see is a lot of bar/gate surrounding those empty ground..

I wonder this Developer have any experience in building a good tam an before. Who know if they have any previous housing projects? At least, they should read this forum and solve their customer’s issues.

Juru villa is their previous project before BM permai.

now almost getting OC, complaining also too late already….

Actually they have another project at Alma now….almost completed too…
All bungalows and the pricing starts from 900k….

I dare you all check on their new project, then confront them. Strike in front of their new project launching time or road show. Then put it up into YouTube.
Dare to do this?

i ever commented on con part on this project but no one care on it that time. I recall i gave around 15-18 points on the con part including poor materials and cables not underground. Now developer is in the progress getting OC, i don’t think they will take you all comments into consideration because they are almost done with this project. Luckily i not buy 😉

To all buyers and owners,
Not too late. You still can request the developer to build the guard house, improve the landscape … the developer still have land for phase 3,4,5… They need to take care their reputation as well push up the property price in the area. Remember they have lots of competitions around such as Orange villa, bm utama…

hi there….lets start go into action, i bought a terrace there too, we need to meet up and sign a petition and hand over to the developer, we can write about low quality material used, TNB cable,TNB post,plaster ceiling company beside operating illegally ,the plaster ceiling debris will fly around to everybody’s house and we arerone to get cancer, dustbin location we can request to put at back lane due to terrace house got road at back lane, if the developer does not listen , we will put in youtube and spread in internet .

ccyl, i’m sad to hear the clerk talk to you that way……she ‘s got bad mouth

@pro_n_con
No laa, Pro_n_con, i remember your advice, that why i did not commit to this project. Now i feel lucky. I bought Orange Villa.
Now, i hope most developer know the power of internet. Any bad comment will really kill their business.

Forward thru email, to all FIZ staff …. whole penang will know this WHH is bad ….. terus tutup kedai !

@coco.boy23, i support u..

Cool down man… Keep feedback all these issues to the developer. Resolve it one by one. Orange villa? Still too early to comment…show house also haven’t complete.

TL, either developer read our comment or someone has to write a petition and get signature,we should have at least 90% to support us (if possible 100% ) so far we have only Venus to support.We need to start right now, no point complaint in forum.

@coco.boy23
i also support.I would like join u all to fight a better quality from developer.

Ok i agree, then wat we nd to do to complaine to our developer?
Or we nd create a page at fb to gt all d bm permai ppl?
Today i jz go n hv a look n found those cable stil nt in well condition n d lanscape really damn bad.

Bthaw, plz wat did u mean by tis?

That why, i suggest to buy Ornage Villa … GnG

Orangevilla still too early to comment. Picture always looks good. I just went thru BM Utama forum. People are complaining about the size of the house, too small. BM Permai, not too bad at least the house is big and worth the value.

today called the office, the sale person (female) told that OC will be obtain in few months time…. delay again…..

who know the latest date to get the OC?why delay?

Tat why i asking, what we nd to do? Who wan write the letter n gt it sign? because developer never listen to us. See nw the OC keep delay. Before tis say after chinese new year can get it but now? Please la WHH COME OUT AND SPEAK

OMG the TNB cabling really look ugly……. downgrade the house standard.

No taman is perfect. BM Permai has advantages and disadvantages. Surrounding areas like BM Utama, Res Cendana, Juru Heights also has advantages and disadvantages. For low quality material and oc delay can complain to developer.

Yes, totally agree with Phua chu kang here…
No taman is perfect. I’m still comparing around…
Be frank, I still prefer BM Permai over BM Utama, Res Cendana, Juru Heights, Juru Villa, Titi Panjang…..

well, went to the office today…
Some updates, bad news and good news.

Updates: Super Semi-D left 3units only.
Mini Bungalow: Sold 5 units in last 2months. Less than 10units left. (not sure how many)
Terrace: All Sold Out long ago.

Bad News:
1) OC delayed to April-May.

Good News:
1) New big “BM Permai” signboard will be placed next to the entrance.
2) Electric cable will be re-routed. (no more spider web!)
3) Landscape will be improved by planting more trees along the main entrance.

Above are the info. I got from office today.

at least more OK than not OK..

@Max
thanks for provide this info. Glad to hear this good news. Hope the OC date not delay again.

yahoo…. thanks for the good news, Max. no wonder they delay the OC, as the TNB need to re-routed the cable. hopefully april and may is the final date for OC…

Will WHH launch phase 2 ?

Phase 2 already nearly sold out. All semi-D left 3 units only. There are also some Phase 1 bungalow left. Are there Phase 3? Will WHH build a guard house and water fountain also :-)?

the newly built Semi-D nearly sold out too? wow…

What is the latest price?

Any good news to update?

Hi there, anyone would like to let go terrace unit?

@Banking Boy
What is the price for terrace?Plumeria?

I think at least $400k. Anyone know the plan for the future phase?

search from mudah.com there….some1 is selling at 375k, but not sure it is still available….go to check it out….
http://www.mudah.my/2+sty+Taman+BM+Permai+Bukit+Minyak+BM-13363513.htm?last=1

Went to the site today, no changes on the cable yet. However, went to the office, i was told the cable re-route is for bungalow and super semiD only. Screw the staff how about the terrace and semiD, and told her lots of buyers complaint about this project, and ask her better highlight to her boss (female).

@BM Guy, that one sold out ady. Please let me know if anyone would like to let go

what is the price for terrace now??

@ Banking boy, why don’t you wait for phase 2 terrace ?
@ Permai, The price of terrace is not that important as for now…the important thing is fast fast get oc and the developer can make a beautiful garden for BM Permai residents…
Can’t wait to have a renovation on my house…. 😛

phase 2 will hv any terrace?? haha…wish to own 1 also….

yaya correct angie, after OC, BM Permai residents can discuss and share about renovation topic…

phase 2 terrace maybe around rm400k. phase 2 will launch around end of the year.

ppl is letting go the plumeria unit as below….
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylisting/1328760/Bukit_Minyak_2-sty_Terrace_Link_House_ForSale

but not sure it is still available or not….

Can’t waiting soo long to get the house key…hope everything is smooth.

wonder what has really change?