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Setia Sky 8

January 10th, 2013 Leave a comment

Setia Sky 8 comprises 534 freehold units spread across three condominium blocks, with unit sizes ranging from 1,100 sq ft to 2,000 sq ft. Aside from sharing in Setia Pearl Island’s existing benefits that include ease of accessibility and a host of amenities, the project will also come equipped with a selection of facilities that will make it a most desirable place to live.

This development will be occupying the land where Setia Pearl Island’s former clubhouse was located.

(Currently still in planning stage)

Property Project : Setia Sky 8 @ Setia Pearl Island
Location : Setia Pearl Island, Sungai Ara, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Built-up Area: 1,100 sq.ft. onwards
Total Units : 534
Land Tenure: Freehold
Developer : SP Setia

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  1. skwong
    January 10th, 2013 at 15:50 | #1

    Wow.. change name already :)

  2. cardevect
    January 10th, 2013 at 16:20 | #2

    Yahoo!! 2nd to comment. :)

    Only one word I can say “WOW”

    Looks like the most prestige condo in Sungai Ara or even Bayan Baru…

    Guess must be even more expensive that Pinnacle….

    Anyone know the price?

    Seems like there are many water features and landscaping….

  3. Lee
    January 10th, 2013 at 16:31 | #3

    This Project already launched??

  4. Steven
    January 10th, 2013 at 16:32 | #4

    Wow…change name and change price also?

  5. Investor club
    January 10th, 2013 at 17:23 | #5

    Many of our club members show keen interest in Sky 8, we will negotiate bulk purchase with SP Setia very soon once we have a confirmed number of buyers from the club members.

  6. Lee
    January 10th, 2013 at 17:37 | #6

    @Investor club
    You know the Price range?

  7. Telescope
    January 10th, 2013 at 18:03 | #7

    @Lee

    Let them buy,better still buy all !!!. But I am very sure they can’t.

  8. Penang Homes
    January 10th, 2013 at 18:53 | #8

    Must be about RM550 per sq ft…. at least

  9. Looi
    January 10th, 2013 at 18:54 | #9

    May i know the price and how to order please. Thank you

  10. TYT
    January 10th, 2013 at 19:16 | #10

    Pinnacle price frm 500k-800k. possibly range between 600k-1M

  11. mah
    January 10th, 2013 at 20:19 | #11

    oh no, project in Sg Ara again, this place overcrowded already lah…

  12. TYT
    January 10th, 2013 at 20:22 | #12

    @mah
    Any where in Penang also crowded >.<

  13. Judah
    January 10th, 2013 at 21:49 | #13

    Alamak, so many man-made fountains and water falls on the hill slope… Isn’t the recent news on landslide already alarming???

  14. Penang Homes
    January 10th, 2013 at 22:32 | #14

    Wah.. this one is a winner for sure but the price will be very high……

  15. zonefinder
    January 10th, 2013 at 23:19 | #15

    Spoke to the sales folks there last week, price will be around 10% higher than Pinnacle.

  16. zonefinder
    January 10th, 2013 at 23:21 | #16

    Investor Club, can you tell us more about this great group you have? ( if can’t beat them, join ’em..).

  17. Ops
    January 10th, 2013 at 23:30 | #17

    My gosh! That piece of land is very small! How can they squeeze in so many blocks! Hope MPPP is smart enough to reject this crazy project!

  18. Investor club
    January 10th, 2013 at 23:35 | #18

    @zonefinder

    Our club is through member reference only. Do ask around.

  19. zonefinder
    January 10th, 2013 at 23:44 | #19

    Investor Club, doesn’t sound like your club objectives jive with mine as I’m not into flipping properties for quick profits ie as speculators. Against my principles lah. Thanks anyway.

  20. zonefinder
    January 10th, 2013 at 23:48 | #20

    @Ops
    they can’t be so stupid as to try squeezing everything within the Clubhouse site if that’s what prompted your remark. They can always clear more land lah…

  21. Investor club
    January 10th, 2013 at 23:51 | #21

    @zonefinder

    Some of our members did invest for rental return if that is what you are looking for. Flipping or keep it for rental return is the decision entirely decided by the members.

  22. XY
    January 11th, 2013 at 00:12 | #22

    The maintenance fees must be expensive than pinnacle with such landscape design…probably >0.30 psf.

  23. zonefinder
    January 11th, 2013 at 00:17 | #23

    @Investor club
    Okay, thanks.

  24. Patsy lee
    January 11th, 2013 at 07:46 | #24

    Interested

  25. WQ
    January 11th, 2013 at 14:19 | #25

    @Investor club..
    Hi, look like you owing a club to have a bulk purchase from developer..how could I join your club to be part of the buyer?

  26. Investor club
    January 11th, 2013 at 16:11 | #26

    @WQ

    Our club is through member reference only. Do ask around.

    I don’t own the club, the club was formed based on our members similar interest in property investment.

  27. Garuda
    January 11th, 2013 at 17:55 | #27

    Investor club :
    @WQ
    Our club is through member reference only. Do ask around.
    I don’t own the club, the club was formed based on our members similar interest in property investment.

    So it is just an informal “gathering” or facebook group to exchange opinion/info, without any membership charge? I hope no profit making by some one through collecting membership fee…

  28. PG Guy
    January 11th, 2013 at 18:25 | #28

    I think starting from RM520psf. Smaller units might be reaching min RM600psf. Design looks very unique with waterfall everywhere. Maintenance fees should be not cheap.

  29. zonefinder
    January 11th, 2013 at 19:48 | #29

    I will be most impressed if Investor club is able to cobble group discounts from Big developers like SP. I will pay to join if you can do that..

  30. Judah
    January 11th, 2013 at 21:48 | #30

    PG Guy :
    I think starting from RM520psf. Smaller units might be reaching min RM600psf. Design looks very unique with waterfall everywhere. Maintenance fees should be not cheap.

    I think those water fall are not real, base on the height, it will need many powerful pumps to recirculate the water.

  31. PG Guy
    January 11th, 2013 at 23:07 | #31

    @Judah

    Tiuk ng tiuk? Max only five levels for the waterfall. Kacang putih for SP Setia la.

  32. Ops
    January 12th, 2013 at 00:25 | #32

    534 / 3 = 178 units per block. If 8 units per floor, that will be around 22+ floors each block. That’s ridiculous!

  33. 123 Property
    January 12th, 2013 at 02:48 | #33

    SP Setia is really here to make an impact and to set the benchmark for developers…

  34. Penang Homes
    January 12th, 2013 at 10:01 | #34

    I like SP Setia properties…. quality is there and I sleep well that project will be completed on time…..best of the best!!!

  35. Northern People
    January 12th, 2013 at 14:44 | #35

    the developer want to launch it before General Election, the politician request support from them, either for govt in power nor the opposition as well. Sure the price will increase. One think have to consider is the traffic flow in that area, are there going to have other alternative road? I don’k think so.

  36. PG Guy
    January 12th, 2013 at 14:52 | #36

    @Northern People

    One of my friend said they are widening the bayan lepas 2 lanes to 4 four lanes, construction just started. Faster if you are going to 2nd bridge, but airport road still shorter if going to Bayan Baru.

  37. PG Guy
    January 12th, 2013 at 14:54 | #37

    @123 Property

    You praised SPS as if they are god. They might think they can do whatever they want later. Including charging extremely high price and giving low quality materials.

  38. 123 Property
    January 12th, 2013 at 17:40 | #38

    @PG Guy

    No ler where got praise SPS as if they are God…but if you follow their history and achievements as a developer…I think SPS has done a lot…Just look at Setia Alam itself, from 4,000 acrea of jungle become a total new township and around 20% of land is put into landscaping…but then in Penang, land is really limited and with the sudden boom in the real estate industry even E&O and IJM has to build on reclaim land and yet charging more than RM1,000 per sf…

  39. PG Guy
    January 12th, 2013 at 18:55 | #39

    @123 Property

    You are willing to pay RM1,000 per sf for SPS because of their previous success regardless of where is the property? I only know SPS bought land cheap but sell expensive houses. That’s why I dont praise them like you did…

  40. Ops
    January 12th, 2013 at 23:10 | #40

    If you feel that such development by SPS is enough, then surely they will not build more facility for the community. So far what they have done in SPS is just build houses, condos, shoplots, SOHO units. They are making huge bucks out of it. What have they done in return to the community? Build school? Build library? Widen road? If you set such low standard on a branded developer, others will follow suit. After all, there is nothing to distinguish them apart.

  41. Penang Homes
    January 13th, 2013 at 13:02 | #41

    Regardless of all….. SP Setia homes are still the best… they honour their promises unlike others

  42. sg pinang
    January 13th, 2013 at 13:13 | #42

    i totally disagree the statement that SPS is the best…
    i have houses from different developers and i found not that there are some not no well known developers build better quality houses than SPS and also their services is much better than SPS…

  43. Bryan
    January 13th, 2013 at 14:36 | #43

    Haha! Those are using iPhone, Toyota/ Honda, will prefer SPS and other branded developer. Those otherwise, like me, will only search around other brand product for better value of money.

  44. Northern People
    January 13th, 2013 at 14:50 | #44

    @123 Property
    Setia did build a good name, but some of the products quality so so only. I have a unit 20×70 at Setia Alam, quality disappointed me. Wall crack and request to do the defect a few times, my friend’s unit more worse, crack on structure. From what i knew, they try to max the profit by push to the lowest construction cost. In business will be like that, but at least remain the basic quality there.

  45. Truth
    January 13th, 2013 at 15:05 | #45

    @Bryan

    20 yrs. ago people bought Toyota/ Honda because more reliable. Nowadays
    even local makes for certain models are much better in terms of road handling,
    performance against Vios and City.

  46. Bryan
    January 13th, 2013 at 16:11 | #46

    @Truth

    That’s why I never trust the brand today, especially those listed company. They need to make their annual report look nice with high revenue, high profit margin, low operation and material cost, so that investor will pump in money into their company. To achieve this, they have to sell high, buy low and use cheap contractor.

  47. Sungai Ara
    January 13th, 2013 at 21:25 | #47

    @Bryan
    I know you bought some property from Ideal and really support Ideal from other blog.
    Good luck to you if you are only the buyer and not directly from Ideal.
    Ideal quality is the best!

  48. Sungai Ara
    January 13th, 2013 at 21:27 | #48

    I personally dare not touch Ideal at all as its quality is “the best”!
    Good luck to you Bryan.

  49. CNN
    January 13th, 2013 at 21:38 | #49

    Agree, if I buy from ideal or their related company, I would have a peace of mind…… Quality on structural is really a doubt…

  50. PG Guy
    January 13th, 2013 at 22:08 | #50

    We expect top notch specs, quality and facilities from SPS because we pay a premium for their products. If everything just so so, why pay more? So far their terrace houses at Setia Pearl Island and Setia Greens are way overpriced with “that quality”.

  51. PG Guy
    January 13th, 2013 at 22:13 | #51

    Sungai Ara :
    @Bryan
    I know you bought some property from Ideal and really support Ideal from other blog.
    Good luck to you if you are only the buyer and not directly from Ideal.
    Ideal quality is the best!

    Did Ideal pay you to sing the praise here?

  52. Elmo
    January 13th, 2013 at 23:08 | #52

    Just an opinion …previously I can see SP Setia built a better quality house. Now the quality built by SP setia degraded. For example… if you stay in Penang island. Just visit the V-Residence at Gurney. The external wall made from cement brick. Not the red brick due to the cost and selling minimum 2 mil. And look at the steel they are using now! No doubt their reputation is able to hand over the house to you within 3 years. This is their only adv now I see.

    All I can said SPS quality had dropped significantly compared to 6 years back. They are looking into profit now.

  53. TYT
    January 13th, 2013 at 23:45 | #53

    @Elmo
    Look n see are useless n baseless. U need to buy the house, stay there, experienced it before u commenting any. Dont be an idiot on the color of the bricks.

  54. idealno.1
    January 13th, 2013 at 23:55 | #54

    @Elmo
    Setia v residences are still a long way frm completion. Tell me which dev are not into profit. They are not charity org.

  55. PG Guy
    January 14th, 2013 at 00:00 | #55

    idealno.1 :
    @Elmo
    Setia v residences are still a long way frm completion. Tell me which dev are not into profit. They are not charity org.

    Haven’t sold out already show “attitude” by giving low qua materials. What do you expect you gonna to get in the end?

  56. Penang Homes
    January 14th, 2013 at 04:26 | #56

    PG Guy :
    We expect top notch specs, quality and facilities from SPS because we pay a premium for their products. If everything just so so, why pay more? So far their terrace houses at Setia Pearl Island and Setia Greens are way overpriced with “that quality”.

    Ha ha ha…. sour grapes cos you do not own these landed properties…. pity

  57. janet
    January 14th, 2013 at 08:40 | #57

    I cna’t believe you guys are “so buy” with the investor club’s comment,

    just imagine and think, a real investors club(multimillionaire) will come to a forum,

    and give you some sneak peak wanting you guys to keep asking to join the club?

    its funny, I don’t see any potential investment for this project
    (Price-Expensive + Supply-High Opportunity Cost + Density-Too High + location-Too far away)

  58. david
    January 14th, 2013 at 08:58 | #58

    @janet
    Hahahaha, but this guy really reply in good manner leh. EQ really high. BTW real investors club ppl does come to this forum :)

  59. Elmo
    January 14th, 2013 at 09:06 | #59

    Guys..get a certified architect and see what is their comment. An experienced developer know where to ‘minus’ the raw material but can’t escape from the eyes of experienced developer and certified architect. I brought 2 developers and 2 certified architect.. all shakes their heads when V-Residence priced that price with such a build material. And of course demand and supply.. no one fault. Someone willing to pay and someone willing to sell!

  60. Sungai Ara
    January 14th, 2013 at 09:22 | #60

    @Elmo
    Location, location, location!
    How do you price the location?

  61. Bryan
    January 14th, 2013 at 10:21 | #61

    @Elmo

    As you said, there’s nothing wrong as someone willing to pay, someone willing to sell. To me, not much developer is really do excellent in term of quality.

  62. PG Guy
    January 14th, 2013 at 10:22 | #62

    Penang Homes :

    PG Guy :
    We expect top notch specs, quality and facilities from SPS because we pay a premium for their products. If everything just so so, why pay more? So far their terrace houses at Setia Pearl Island and Setia Greens are way overpriced with “that quality”.

    Ha ha ha…. sour grapes cos you do not own these landed properties…. pity

    Why should we sour grapes for your overpriced but low quality Setia Greens? Funny…

  63. PG Guy
    January 14th, 2013 at 10:39 | #63

    @Sungai Ara

    If want to talk about traffic congestion in Penang, nowhere else can beat Gurney area. But why the price is still amongst the highest in penang?

  64. Bryan
    January 14th, 2013 at 10:59 | #64

    Sungai Ara :
    @Bryan
    I know you bought some property from Ideal and really support Ideal from other blog.
    Good luck to you if you are only the buyer and not directly from Ideal.
    Ideal quality is the best!

    Thanks for your greeting but no, thanks! If you currently own a SPS property, stay in before, and you very satisfy with their service and quality, and also willing to pay, definitely SPS should be your choice for your next purchase. If you are new to property buying, also should choose SPS projects to have less worry.

    I just telling the truth how a listed company operate. They probably earn more money from share market than actual property selling. So, their priority is their fiscal/ quarterly financial statement to show to investor how much money they can make.

    And I am currently staying in condo by Ideal, I know who they are, what quality they make and what I want.

  65. Bryan
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:02 | #65

    Sungai Ara :
    @Elmo
    Location, location, location!
    How do you price the location?

    Penang island is so small that eventually, the gap between each location will not significant. If mainland, yes you need to put location as the highest priority.

  66. Penang Homes
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:06 | #66

    PG Guy :
    @Sungai Ara
    If want to talk about traffic congestion in Penang, nowhere else can beat Gurney area. But why the price is still amongst the highest in penang?

    People follow ‘herd instinct’….. just follow…. gong gong follow….. they dun know now south west part of island is the boom area….. ha ha ha…. gong gong really gong!!

  67. heehee
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:18 | #67

    Penang Homes :

    PG Guy :
    @Sungai Ara
    If want to talk about traffic congestion in Penang, nowhere else can beat Gurney area. But why the price is still amongst the highest in penang?

    People follow ‘herd instinct’….. just follow…. gong gong follow….. they dun know now south west part of island is the boom area….. ha ha ha…. gong gong really gong!!

    Yes, you are right. People follow ‘herd instinct’….. just follow…. gong gong follow….. they only follow the “Brand” and do not know how to judge value over money…pay a premium to get peanut.. hee hee hee..

  68. heehee
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:21 | #68

    heehee :

    Penang Homes :

    PG Guy :
    @Sungai Ara
    If want to talk about traffic congestion in Penang, nowhere else can beat Gurney area. But why the price is still amongst the highest in penang?

    People follow ‘herd instinct’….. just follow…. gong gong follow….. they dun know now south west part of island is the boom area….. ha ha ha…. gong gong really gong!!

    Yes, you are right. People follow ‘herd instinct’….. just follow…. gong gong follow….. they only follow the “Brand” and do not know how to judge value over money…pay a premium to get peanut.. hee hee hee..

    This happened now even in the booming south west part of the island.. hee hee hee..

  69. :)
    January 14th, 2013 at 13:32 | #69

    @Elmo

    I don’t know much about the steel. But for common area, Setia is using sand brick. For residential unit, they will use red brick. I bought a unit in Reflections, all these material used are stated clearly in the SnP.

  70. Penang Homes
    January 15th, 2013 at 04:38 | #70

    Bryan :

    Sungai Ara :
    @Elmo
    Location, location, location!
    How do you price the location?

    Penang island is so small that eventually, the gap between each location will not significant. If mainland, yes you need to put location as the highest priority.

    Except the gap between the west and Balik Pulau…. that gap will not be closing anytime soon unless they build a tunnel or else going to Balik Pulau is even further than going to Butterworth from Georgetown…..

  71. 123 Property
    January 20th, 2013 at 12:09 | #71

    @Elmo

    What you see at Gurney is their show unit ler for V residence…not the actual unit…

  72. 123 Property
    January 20th, 2013 at 12:20 | #72

    If 10 years ago, buying a property in Sg Ara…people will say “Siau meh” who is gonna stay there…but then after 2008 we see the progress of Penang and Sg Ara is the ideal place now because it is the closest available area to FTZ and second bridge…So developers are all focousing in this area because they know that the damand is there…

    Imagine staying at Tg Bungah now and working in FTZ…you have to go through Gurney’s traffic jam then Greenlane’s traffic jam just to get to Intel, Dell, AMD and other factories and it takes 45 minutes to 1 hour minimum for one way…

    So now you have a home with facilities such as gym, swimming pool, studio and with schools, restaurants and food court, hospitals and clincs near by and only 10-15 minutes to work now…

    haha reminds me of SPS tag line Live, Learn, Work, Play…basically i think that SPS is trying to create a balance life style of their buyers…

    Just curious what will their selling price be for Sky 8?

  73. Ops
    January 20th, 2013 at 12:30 | #73

    Sg Ara still lacking is an established international school (note: not some inexperienced profit seeking company who is a new player in the field of education and just venturing out to test the market). Expats need good Int’ School. Fairview is not anywhere near that standard.

  74. Penang Homes
    January 20th, 2013 at 15:13 | #74

    123 Property :
    If 10 years ago, buying a property in Sg Ara…people will say “Siau meh” who is gonna stay there…but then after 2008 we see the progress of Penang and Sg Ara is the ideal place now because it is the closest available area to FTZ and second bridge…So developers are all focousing in this area because they know that the damand is there…
    Imagine staying at Tg Bungah now and working in FTZ…you have to go through Gurney’s traffic jam then Greenlane’s traffic jam just to get to Intel, Dell, AMD and other factories and it takes 45 minutes to 1 hour minimum for one way…
    So now you have a home with facilities such as gym, swimming pool, studio and with schools, restaurants and food court, hospitals and clincs near by and only 10-15 minutes to work now…
    haha reminds me of SPS tag line Live, Learn, Work, Play…basically i think that SPS is trying to create a balance life style of their buyers…
    Just curious what will their selling price be for Sky 8?

    You are right…. Sg Ara is the HOT area on the island now…… great demand and population will increase…. more people will then cause more shops, schools to open….development had arrived in Sg Ara, people!

  75. 123 Property
    January 20th, 2013 at 15:37 | #75

    I use to stay in Jalan Tengah during my primary and secondary school…Everything around this area is totally different now…Glad Penang is progressing…

    GE13…PR for the win…haha…

  76. Ops
    January 20th, 2013 at 17:13 | #76

    I still feel that SPS should have done more to make this place be a point of interest (something like The Lights and Seri Tanjung Pinang). SPS did not have a vision or a long-term development plan. When they see the profit’s there, they jump ship. There is no proper road map. Projects are rampant and very short-sighted. Compared with STP or Lights or South Bay where you know what is in plan for each plot, SPS seems more driven by market. I truly hope SPS can improve on that and benchmark its competitors.

    Last time they were selling the Club House and facility to attract buyers for Phase 1 and 2. Now they decided to tear it down to make way for condos, and as if one block is not enough profit, they make it three blocks. Last time, the Sky8 was planned to be farther down inside behind the low cost flat after Phase 2, the plot called the Aisle of View.

  77. TGV
    January 20th, 2013 at 22:05 | #77

    Ops :
    I still feel that SPS should have done more to make this place be a point of interest (something like The Lights and Seri Tanjung Pinang). SPS did not have a vision or a long-term development plan. When they see the profit’s there, they jump ship. There is no proper road map. Projects are rampant and very short-sighted. Compared with STP or Lights or South Bay where you know what is in plan for each plot, SPS seems more driven by market. I truly hope SPS can improve on that and benchmark its competitors.
    Last time they were selling the Club House and facility to attract buyers for Phase 1 and 2. Now they decided to tear it down to make way for condos, and as if one block is not enough profit, they make it three blocks. Last time, the Sky8 was planned to be farther down inside behind the low cost flat after Phase 2, the plot called the Aisle of View.

    I also wish for the Light & STP, but the price are much more expensive than SPS. Both are waterfront city of course they need a proper road map since built on reclamation land. We could not yet judge South bay yet as i dont see much proper planning as well. while SPS situated on existing land which they need to improve on.

  78. Penang Kia
    January 20th, 2013 at 22:47 | #78

    So many flats and new condos using the single access road, SPS, what are you doing except adding to the traffic jam?

  79. Ops
    January 20th, 2013 at 23:51 | #79

    I wonder whether existing residence around that area can object to MPPP. If MPPP did not consider access road, SPS should, if both did not, the residence should.

  80. PG Guy
    January 21st, 2013 at 10:22 | #80

    @Ops

    Some big trees along the Jalan Tun Dr Awang have been pruned recently and ready to be relocated. They are expanding it into 4 lanes.

  81. Ops
    January 21st, 2013 at 11:55 | #81

    I’m more concerned about Persiaran Kelicap itself.

  82. hssf
    January 22nd, 2013 at 18:30 | #82

    Hi..
    How do I join investors club?

  83. 123 Property
    January 28th, 2013 at 17:52 | #83

    Very simple, if you like the project…then buy ^_^

    if you don’t like…then just buy others…

    As for me, I think that place will continue growing…

  84. 123 Property
    January 28th, 2013 at 18:08 | #84

    @Penang Kia

    Then might as well say other develpers…Ideal just announced another RM2 billion project in that area and is just in front of SPI and also using Jalan Tun Dr Awang or Hunza for causing Gurney and Kelawai to be so jam but did not do any widening of the road…then Mah Sing and Ivory in Batu Feringghi for not widening the roads on the way and along Batu Feringghi…

    I don’t think it is right to put 100% blame on developers for causing traffic jams…From what I see, this is the failure of the prevouse state government as there were no proper road planning…

    Many roads in Penang cannot be expended due to the reason that there are no extra space to expend…etc Gurney Drive 1 lane heading to town and 1 lane heading to Tanjung Tokong…or Tanjung Bungah to Teluk Bahang is all one lane…

  85. zonefinder
    January 28th, 2013 at 18:23 | #85

    @Penang Kia
    you should take a trip to Hongkong and visit places like Causewaybay then you realize that Penang is a paradise!

  86. Believer
    January 28th, 2013 at 20:54 | #86

    @zonefinder

    Yes,Penang is a city of traffic lights and traffic jams paradise !!!.

  87. Judah
    January 29th, 2013 at 09:53 | #87

    @123 Property
    If the traffic jam is the due to failure of road planning by state government, then better prevent the growing of the traffic problem by disapprove those new projects there.. if not later people will say because the state government has approve so many projects without expanding the roads! ya ya, expand the roads or cancel your projects…

  88. PG Guy
    January 29th, 2013 at 10:03 | #88

    Judah :
    @123 Property
    If the traffic jam is the due to failure of road planning by state government, then better prevent the growing of the traffic problem by disapprove those new projects there.. if not later people will say because the state government has approve so many projects without expanding the roads! ya ya, expand the roads or cancel your projects…

    Expanding road or build new road is under federal government responsibility since they collect tax from the Rakyat. State government can help if federal government decided not doing anything about it.

  89. PG Guy
    January 29th, 2013 at 10:05 | #89

    Believer :
    @zonefinder
    Yes,Penang is a city of traffic lights and traffic jams paradise !!!.

    Dont know whether we should believe you in the future as you sounded like you never get out of penang at all.

  90. Judah
    January 29th, 2013 at 11:05 | #90

    PG Guy :

    Judah :
    @123 Property
    If the traffic jam is the due to failure of road planning by state government, then better prevent the growing of the traffic problem by disapprove those new projects there.. if not later people will say because the state government has approve so many projects without expanding the roads! ya ya, expand the roads or cancel your projects…

    Expanding road or build new road is under federal government responsibility since they collect tax from the Rakyat. State government can help if federal government decided not doing anything about it.

    Then it is all federal government fault for the traffic jam/unplanned road widening? Then what is IJM doing for the LCE(Jelutong) express way if developers has no responsibility at all???

  91. Believer
    January 29th, 2013 at 12:39 | #91

    @PG Guy

    You don’t have to believe in me if you had ever been to our nearest neighbour,
    you might/might not able ,depending on your cosmic intelligence to see their
    how the expressways are linked and modes of transport available.

    Later, you might also want to believe the subway electric train in Shanghai
    or the “Maglev train” that are travelling at a speed of 430 km/h.

    You can enlighten your ignorance in Los Angeles County Freeway and notice
    the merging of 2 stretches of 4 lanes carriage way onto the highway and is toll
    free for many stretches of the highways.

  92. ABC
    January 29th, 2013 at 12:45 | #92

    @Judah
    With the price tag >RM1000/sqft in IJM u think IJM paid that? No, it’s the buyer!!!

  93. PG Guy
    January 29th, 2013 at 12:57 | #93

    Believer :
    @PG Guy
    You don’t have to believe in me if you had ever been to our nearest neighbour,
    you might/might not able ,depending on your cosmic intelligence to see their
    how the expressways are linked and modes of transport available.
    Later, you might also want to believe the subway electric train in Shanghai
    or the “Maglev train” that are travelling at a speed of 430 km/h.
    You can enlighten your ignorance in Los Angeles County Freeway and notice
    the merging of 2 stretches of 4 lanes carriage way onto the highway and is toll
    free for many stretches of the highways.

    Sounded like you really “traveled” alot to overseas.

  94. islander
    January 29th, 2013 at 12:58 | #94

    Judah :

    PG Guy :

    Judah :@123 Property If the traffic jam is the due to failure of road planning by state government, then better prevent the growing of the traffic problem by disapprove those new projects there.. if not later people will say because the state government has approve so many projects without expanding the roads! ya ya, expand the roads or cancel your projects…

    Expanding road or build new road is under federal government responsibility since they collect tax from the Rakyat. State government can help if federal government decided not doing anything about it.

    Then it is all federal government fault for the traffic jam/unplanned road widening? Then what is IJM doing for the LCE(Jelutong) express way if developers has no responsibility at all???

    There is the agreement between IJM and goverment….. for The Light project…

  95. Believer
    January 29th, 2013 at 13:22 | #95

    @Believer
    Most of the time, you have to drive to experience and feel the differences
    and not just visiting only.

  96. Judah
    January 29th, 2013 at 14:22 | #96

    islander :

    Judah :

    PG Guy :

    Judah :@123 Property If the traffic jam is the due to failure of road planning by state government, then better prevent the growing of the traffic problem by disapprove those new projects there.. if not later people will say because the state government has approve so many projects without expanding the roads! ya ya, expand the roads or cancel your projects…

    Expanding road or build new road is under federal government responsibility since they collect tax from the Rakyat. State government can help if federal government decided not doing anything about it.

    Then it is all federal government fault for the traffic jam/unplanned road widening? Then what is IJM doing for the LCE(Jelutong) express way if developers has no responsibility at all???

    There is the agreement between IJM and goverment….. for The Light project…

    The same way can apply to all projects, if small fly then build smaller access roads lah, why all blame government… I don’t see selling RM500sqf without providing good access roads is “cheap” price to buyers…

  97. PG Guy
    January 29th, 2013 at 14:42 | #97

    @Judah

    Without good access road, I don’t think people will take up those projects here at all. Let’s see whether the potential Sky 8 buyers think whether the current access road need to be widen or not. The sales will tell. So far Orchard Ville buyers think OK.

  98. Judah
    January 29th, 2013 at 17:26 | #98

    @PG Guy
    Then don’t blame the state government for traffic jam. All should applause when state government implement the Traffic Impact Assessment (TIS) requirement.. I think that is not enough, should make it compulsory to widen/build additional access roads. Anyone object?

  99. Telescope
    January 29th, 2013 at 18:08 | #99

    @Judah

    If don’t blame the previous state Government for the traffic jams in Penang,
    then who is to blame ? Proton ? Perodua ? Penangites because they had
    never paid their vehicles’ road tax ?

  100. ABC
    January 29th, 2013 at 19:40 | #100

    Judah :

    islander :

    Judah :

    PG Guy :

    Judah :@123 Property If the traffic jam is the due to failure of road planning by state government, then better prevent the growing of the traffic problem by disapprove those new projects there.. if not later people will say because the state government has approve so many projects without expanding the roads! ya ya, expand the roads or cancel your projects…

    Expanding road or build new road is under federal government responsibility since they collect tax from the Rakyat. State government can help if federal government decided not doing anything about it.

    Then it is all federal government fault for the traffic jam/unplanned road widening? Then what is IJM doing for the LCE(Jelutong) express way if developers has no responsibility at all???

    There is the agreement between IJM and goverment….. for The Light project…

    The same way can apply to all projects, if small fly then build smaller access roads lah, why all blame government… I don’t see selling RM500sqf without providing good access roads is “cheap” price to buyers…

    Just to have better road and location like in IJM The Light have to pay >RM1000/sqft compared to Sg. Ara area which are around RM500/sqft!!! Wow great!!! Even so, LCE highway still jam during peak hours. Also, you should have check the reclamation land cost in LCE highways compared to land cost in Sg. Ara. Cost and margin plays a very important roles in social responsibility.

  101. Judah
    January 29th, 2013 at 19:42 | #101

    @Telescope
    Yes, you are right. Blame the previous state government for not doing good job. The new CAT state government has done great move to ask for Traffic Impact Assessment from developers…Some are asked to widen road (TGT), some are asked to build bus station (Arena)… community service other than profit..great, keep the good job up…hoping to see more..

  102. PG Guy
    January 29th, 2013 at 19:42 | #102

    Judah :
    @PG Guy
    Then don’t blame the state government for traffic jam. All should applause when state government implement the Traffic Impact Assessment (TIS) requirement.. I think that is not enough, should make it compulsory to widen/build additional access roads. Anyone object?

    You blamed one. Not me.

  103. onered86
    onered86
    February 9th, 2013 at 18:10 | #103

    Any idea when this will launch?

  104. Ops
    February 23rd, 2013 at 03:59 | #104

    I just hope Sky8 will never be launched. My 2 cents. This place is already too congested. SPS just has to be more creative to squeeze profits out of the clubhouse. This land and building should not be demolished. I strongly object to them bombing and damaging that nice surroundings. It’s detrimental. I’ve long resolved never to buy another property from SPS unless they start to show more social responsibility to the community in the vicinity. What’s wrong is wrong, whether they are reputable developer or not does not make a difference.

  105. Bryan
    February 23rd, 2013 at 08:37 | #105

    @Ops

    Right! At least connect Persiaran Kelicap to Desaria.

  106. J
    February 23rd, 2013 at 10:33 | #106

    Ops :
    I just hope Sky8 will never be launched. My 2 cents. This place is already too congested. SPS just has to be more creative to squeeze profits out of the clubhouse. This land and building should not be demolished. I strongly object to them bombing and damaging that nice surroundings. It’s detrimental. I’ve long resolved never to buy another property from SPS unless they start to show more social responsibility to the community in the vicinity. What’s wrong is wrong, whether they are reputable developer or not does not make a difference.

    Agree, but how to complain? To mppp?

  107. 123 Property
    February 23rd, 2013 at 11:17 | #107

    Think SPS had brought up the surrounding area and also widening the crossroad area at Persiaran Kelicap Traffic Light…but now it depends on all the new developers beside SPS to play their part too as they are now enjoying and prospering because of this area. I am actually waiting for the access road to be open from Ideal and Asia Greens. The actual traffic jam area is not at Persiaran Kelicap but actually at Pearl Garden Traffic Light and also Chong Cheng School Traffic Light and lastly Relau Junction.

  108. 123 Property
    February 23rd, 2013 at 11:31 | #108

    Think SPS had brought up the surrounding area and also widening the crossroad area at Persiaran Kelicap Traffic Light…but now it depends on all the new developers beside SPS to play their part too as they are now enjoying and prospering because of this area. I am actually waiting for the access road to be open from Ideal, RID and Asia Greens. The actual traffic jam area is not at Persiaran Kelicap but actually at Pearl Garden Traffic Light and also Chong Cheng School Traffic Light and lastly Relau Junction.

    Ops :I just hope Sky8 will never be launched. My 2 cents. This place is already too congested. SPS just has to be more creative to squeeze profits out of the clubhouse. This land and building should not be demolished. I strongly object to them bombing and damaging that nice surroundings. It’s detrimental. I’ve long resolved never to buy another property from SPS unless they start to show more social responsibility to the community in the vicinity. What’s wrong is wrong, whether they are reputable developer or not does not make a difference.

    I also dont think it is right to just pin point SPS to do all the road widening and access road as coz new developer like RID building 2 new project which use Persiaran Kelicap too, they should also play their part right? I am not blaming anyone but just sharing.

    So what I am saying here is that if all developers work together with proper planning then I think Penang will be a better place…

  109. Ideal
    February 23rd, 2013 at 13:49 | #109

    @123 Property
    Nicely said. Those negative commenter are mostly 1R buyers like Bryan. All they do is praising their property and finger pointing to SPS alone. They only good in sell flower, talk flower good only.

  110. zonefinder
    February 23rd, 2013 at 15:41 | #110

    I think Sky 8 will enhance the area and I can’t wait for this project to be launched. The Island is going to be developed whether one like it or not. Better it be done by reputable developer.

    Location like Pearl island is a premium. It is better to replace the Clubhouse which is underutilized with something which is aesthetically beautiful and yet can be enjoyed by more folks.

  111. Bryan
    February 23rd, 2013 at 16:54 | #111

    Ideal :
    @123 Property
    Nicely said. Those negative commenter are mostly 1R buyers like Bryan. All they do is praising their property and finger pointing to SPS alone. They only good in sell flower, talk flower good only.

    Thick negative will see things negatively. Sg Ara is well known with bad traffic during peak hours. Who staying inside do not wish to have more access road?

  112. test
    February 23rd, 2013 at 18:36 | #112

    don’t stay here..very jam

  113. test
    February 23rd, 2013 at 18:37 | #113

    do this experiment, try driving to and fro around dinner time :)

  114. ezalor
    February 23rd, 2013 at 19:03 | #114

    @Bryan
    Sg Ara is very big place. Right after Relau traffic light already consider Sg Ara, Chong Cheng school Sg Ara, Pearl Garden Sg Ara, ASIAN green project Clover Sg Ara, SPI Sg Ara, Fiera Vista there also Sg Ara. So, when you guys mentioned Sg Ara bad traffic, could you be precise which part is jam? Then, if you guys referring to jam at Pearl Garden and Chong Cheng school traffic lights, then what you expect SPI to do? To widen the whole Jalan Dato Ismail Hashim just because SPI is building houses in Sg Ara? Since when SP Setia becomes the JKR of Penang state? The road inside SPI and outside SPI already 2+2 lanes, what you expect more? Expand to 3 + 3 lanes meh? Expect developer to build highway inside housing area? Please be more reasonable lar.

  115. J & J
    February 23rd, 2013 at 19:13 | #115

    More access roads do not solve traffic jams because they create more
    junctions that lead to more traffic lights. This is the best and most
    distinguish traffic ” landmarks “in Penang. Congratulation to the
    Penang City Council for all the jams in Penang because they made it
    a reality !!!. Just keep it up, adding more traffic lights will do. Very great
    achievement for Penang indeed.

  116. J & J
    February 23rd, 2013 at 19:54 | #116

    No one expects it to be done it in 365 days,you had 50 long,long, years.
    Now they are talking to build a RM 44 billion bridge linking Malacca to
    Sumatra.Refer to http://www.namnewsnetwork.org/v3/read.php?id=
    OTY5MTc=

  117. kotun
    February 23rd, 2013 at 20:38 | #117

    I’ve asked few friends who stayed in Sg Ara about the traffic. In the morning, the Chong Cheng junction could cause a queue till Army area. Another bottle neck is the traffic light in front to desaria. They say the traffice through Tun Dr Awang is much smoother. I’ve tried to drive at night and the smoothest traffic through Tun Dr Awang. For SPI occupants, the main bottleneck is on traffice light of persiarang kelicap right, in the morning?

  118. ps
    February 23rd, 2013 at 23:23 | #118

    this project ald opened to regiester?

  119. yapp
    February 23rd, 2013 at 23:27 | #119

    ezalor :
    @Bryan
    Sg Ara is very big place. Right after Relau traffic light already consider Sg Ara, Chong Cheng school Sg Ara, Pearl Garden Sg Ara, ASIAN green project Clover Sg Ara, SPI Sg Ara, Fiera Vista there also Sg Ara. So, when you guys mentioned Sg Ara bad traffic, could you be precise which part is jam? Then, if you guys referring to jam at Pearl Garden and Chong Cheng school traffic lights, then what you expect SPI to do? To widen the whole Jalan Dato Ismail Hashim just because SPI is building houses in Sg Ara? Since when SP Setia becomes the JKR of Penang state? The road inside SPI and outside SPI already 2+2 lanes, what you expect more? Expand to 3 + 3 lanes meh? Expect developer to build highway inside housing area? Please be more reasonable lar.

    For me Relau and Northern Sg Ara is considered one location, not much different and they sharing the same road everyday. Sg Ara South where SP Setia main office,Ideal project and Reka Indah Meridien is well planned residential projects. I would prefer staying in Sg Ara South rather than Relau and nearby area.

  120. Bryan
    February 23rd, 2013 at 23:29 | #120

    ezalor :
    @Bryan
    Sg Ara is very big place. Right after Relau traffic light already consider Sg Ara, Chong Cheng school Sg Ara, Pearl Garden Sg Ara, ASIAN green project Clover Sg Ara, SPI Sg Ara, Fiera Vista there also Sg Ara. So, when you guys mentioned Sg Ara bad traffic, could you be precise which part is jam? Then, if you guys referring to jam at Pearl Garden and Chong Cheng school traffic lights, then what you expect SPI to do? To widen the whole Jalan Dato Ismail Hashim just because SPI is building houses in Sg Ara? Since when SP Setia becomes the JKR of Penang state? The road inside SPI and outside SPI already 2+2 lanes, what you expect more? Expand to 3 + 3 lanes meh? Expect developer to build highway inside housing area? Please be more reasonable lar.

    1st, read the comment rightly that my suggestion is to connection the Persiaran Kelicap to Desaria.

    2nd, yes, the traffic is bad started from the Pearl Garden, all the way to Golden Triangle. The mass projects by SPS will definitely contribute to the already bad traffic, difficult to agree on this? Yes, other developers also having 1 or 2 projects there, but they can’t do more than SPS.

    3rd, you also cannot agree that after all the projects completed, the SPI junction will become another bottleneck? You don’t wish for alternative road?

    Serving roads of residential always built by developer and handover to state gov after complete. No body asked for highway. Is fine for me if the current traffic meet your expectation and no improvement required.

  121. Bryan
    February 23rd, 2013 at 23:32 | #121

    J & J :
    More access roads do not solve traffic jams because they create more
    junctions that lead to more traffic lights. This is the best and most
    distinguish traffic ” landmarks “in Penang. Congratulation to the
    Penang City Council for all the jams in Penang because they made it
    a reality !!!. Just keep it up, adding more traffic lights will do. Very great
    achievement for Penang indeed.

    This is the only economy method can be done on a ready busy road. More can be done on a less busy road will space available for expansion.

  122. Ops
    February 23rd, 2013 at 23:46 | #122

    Instead of a 534 condo, what’s wrong with maintaining the clubhouse as it is? Are we that desperate for more condos in that area? Shouldn’t this commercial titled land remain for commercial purpose? We all know that SPS is not a charitable organization. But the act of demolition and use of dynamite will impact all the surrounding houses, flats, apartments… Of course, if you don’t live there, it’s none of your concern. Do you know how all houses in that area was affected when SPS started bombing the rocks to build SPI?

  123. PG Guy
    February 24th, 2013 at 00:11 | #123

    There will be two giant condo projects by SPS. Sky 8 and Breeze. Total more than 1000 units. Hopefully not many people occupy these condo, RID condo, Reflections and Setia Triangle, or the q will be very long at the traffic light, maybe all the way to Sky 8.

  124. J
    February 24th, 2013 at 00:15 | #124

    Ops :
    Instead of a 534 condo, what’s wrong with maintaining the clubhouse as it is? Are we that desperate for more condos in that area? Shouldn’t this commercial titled land remain for commercial purpose? We all know that SPS is not a charitable organization. But the act of demolition and use of dynamite will impact all the surrounding houses, flats, apartments… Of course, if you don’t live there, it’s none of your concern. Do you know how all houses in that area was affected when SPS started bombing the rocks to build SPI?

    Is it possible to bomb with those SPS semi-d so near? I would prefer the club house to be kept as it is, and re-purpose than tearing it down for condo. Traffic is another issue given there will be SP Triangle also – I think the authority should force the developers there to provide more access road. Link road to Desaria and/or towards Teluk Kumbar would be good.

  125. J & J
    February 24th, 2013 at 00:36 | #125

    @Bryan

    If this was done 10 or 15 years ago with proper planning,do you think it
    will cost as much as today ? Just like the NS Highway, it should at least
    widen the stretch of highway 5 years ago. The contract awarded to these
    operators, included to raise the toll fares after a certain number of years
    but why don’t they widen the roads first before increasing the toll fares ?

    It still can be done in busy roads and space constraint. Elevated highways
    will and at the same time solve most the junctions of traffic lights. I need
    not have to go into details. Need I ?

  126. PG Guy
    February 24th, 2013 at 00:45 | #126

    I don’t think the main purpose of the traffic light is to solve traffic congestion. It is to manage traffic flow. We need better public transport if we want sustainable solution.

  127. Ops
    February 24th, 2013 at 01:42 | #127

    My understanding from SPS staff, they will tear down the Clubhouse. That’s my main concern!
    It’s so very near to existing houses! They’re crazy! A bunch of money savvy dudes!

    I’m also concerned with improper traffic planning there too. Why SPS should do something? SPS owns the majority land there! Other developers should benchmark SPS if SPS is doing a good job. This is not a forum to finger-point or accuse. It’s just to share our opinions. Of course our dear government should table out a good roadmap for developers to adhere to. It is our concern that our government should listen to us.

  128. Ideal
    February 24th, 2013 at 07:56 | #128

    @Bryan

    @Ops
    Why you all don’t mentioned that Ideal that should take part in that since they are major developer on there with thousands of unit near sungai ara. This is not finger pointing then is call what? This is not an opinion but bunch of accusations.

  129. PG Guy
    February 24th, 2013 at 09:05 | #129

    @Ideal

    If SPS do nothing, as usual, their existing buyers or future buyers will suffer. 1R buyers won’t need to worry that much due to its proximity to Jalan Tun Dato Dr Awang, they have more options in term of which road to use.

  130. kotun
    February 24th, 2013 at 09:16 | #130

    PG Guy :
    @Ideal
    If SPS do nothing, as usual, their existing buyers or future buyers will suffer. 1R buyers won’t need to worry that much due to its proximity to Jalan Tun Dato Dr Awang, they have more options in term of which road to use.

    Agree with PG Guy. 1R can use Sg Ara, Tun Dr Awang or Azlan Shah. With Vision Park, the 1R can cun through to go to azlan shah. The traffice on Tun Dr Awang is much much better. The only minor bottle neck is on the jln tengah/tun dr awang junction. Widening Tun Dr Awang to 4 lanes i is in progress now.

  131. kotun
    February 24th, 2013 at 09:18 | #131

    During lunch time, it takes around 8-9 minutes to get from 1R to say sunshine, through Tun Dr Awang. Quite smooth and fast.

  132. Bryan
    February 24th, 2013 at 09:24 | #132

    Ideal :
    @Bryan
    @Ops
    Why you all don’t mentioned that Ideal that should take part in that since they are major developer on there with thousands of unit near sungai ara. This is not finger pointing then is call what? This is not an opinion but bunch of accusations.

    Well, at least Ideal make a new connection road to Jln Tun Dr Awang, and the Vision Park project will also widen Jln Tun Dr Awang to 4 lanes, and there will be new road connecting to Sg Tiram also. Not to mention the land gave for new Heng Ee schools.

    It is too much. You all continue defend developers and compared which do better or worst. My point is clear that who ever having the developments at certain area, must provide the basic traffic network and sufficient amenities. I speak out as a whole for “South Sg Ara” residences that we need better traffic connection to Bayan Baru/ Lepas, bridges, and specifically SPI area where we foresee there will be another heavy traffic flow there. Otherwise, property at Sg Ara will forever remain as last choice for islanders, maybe slightly better than Relau. But Relau traffic can be easily solved with just a flyover connecting Jln Paya Terubong to sPICE, supported by many new traffic network by the projects in that area.

  133. Sg Ara Boy
    February 24th, 2013 at 10:15 | #133

    kotun :I’ve asked few friends who stayed in Sg Ara about the traffic. In the morning, the Chong Cheng junction could cause a queue till Army area. Another bottle neck is the traffic light in front to desaria. They say the traffice through Tun Dr Awang is much smoother. I’ve tried to drive at night and the smoothest traffic through Tun Dr Awang. For SPI occupants, the main bottleneck is on traffice light of persiarang kelicap right, in the morning?

    I stay around there….There is no bottle neck traffic jam at persiaran Kelicap…but i really dont understand why ppl keep saying that it is jam there…when the jam usually starts at Pearl Garden traffic light and Chong Cheng traffic light…

  134. Sg Ara Boy
    February 24th, 2013 at 10:30 | #134

    @PG Guy

    Alamak…think most of you guys dont stay there…last time when i was schooling and cycling there you think the road is as big as now?

    SPS already widen persiaran kelicap and tun dr awang when they started their development…then now who is using this road? residence of Sg Ara and also future residence from The Clovers, Ideal, RID and others…

    Then why still asking SPS to widen the road…when after Army Camp you guys can call Asia Greens to widen the road as they have 5 blocks of 30 storey condo and further in front, Ideal got a big land full of double story house and low cost flats, you can ask Ideal to widen the road right too right? Then since RID got 2 project with around 1000 units and all going through Persiaran Kelicap why dont ask them now to widen also…

    I am saying this because i think we should be fair to all developers, not just saying and expecting one to do everything when they have already took the first step and done their part…

    From what I see here is like…SPS must do everything for everyone…I think they already did a good job there to bring up that area…

  135. ezalor
    February 24th, 2013 at 11:39 | #135

    Sg Ara Boy :

    kotun :I’ve asked few friends who stayed in Sg Ara about the traffic. In the morning, the Chong Cheng junction could cause a queue till Army area. Another bottle neck is the traffic light in front to desaria. They say the traffice through Tun Dr Awang is much smoother. I’ve tried to drive at night and the smoothest traffic through Tun Dr Awang. For SPI occupants, the main bottleneck is on traffice light of persiarang kelicap right, in the morning?

    I stay around there….There is no bottle neck traffic jam at persiaran Kelicap…but i really dont understand why ppl keep saying that it is jam there…when the jam usually starts at Pearl Garden traffic light and Chong Cheng traffic light…

    I also not understand, and they keep saying want SP Setia to build more access roads, some more want to access to Desa Ria! I wondering whether these people ever been to SPI and know the geography and layout design or not. SPI is surrounded by hill, Ok? To build access road from SPI to Desa Ria for what? Now SPI mainly two roads that seem possible to connect to Desa Ria, but actually it is impossible. Persiaran Kelicap which dead end now at Club House, so, to clean up the hill and build a hill road to Desa Ria? Persiaran Nuri, that is also a dead end road to SPI low cost flat, and the low cost flat is surrounded graveyard. So, you guys want SP Setia to dig out graveyard to build access road to Desa Ria? Dont forget this Persiaran Nuri is resident road, specially build to make it quiet and peaceful , they even put bumpers so cars wont drive too fast, now you outsiders want to represent the SPI residents to request to open their resident road to become main road?! And more one important thing, that access road serve for what purpose? Right now for Persiaran Kelicap traffic light, those who want to go Pearl Garden direction just turn left (no need to wait traffic light), no problem for SPI people at all. So, why insist want to build access road from SPI to Desa Ria which the SPI residents also dont feel the need.

  136. PG Guy
    February 24th, 2013 at 12:26 | #136

    @Sg Ara Boy

    I am sure SPS will widen the road during Setia Triangle construction. Else their buyers will suffer. If I am SPI buyers, I will pressure them to commit something for good, not defending them for not doing anything.

  137. PG Guy
    February 24th, 2013 at 12:29 | #137

    @ezalor

    When people start to move in and Q piled up all the way to Sky 8, don’t think your car can reach the traffic light so easily for you to make a left turn to Sg Ara town. For me, there is a underlying problem for SPI and RID buyers.

  138. Lee
    February 24th, 2013 at 12:49 | #138

    By 5-10 yrs, whole south sungai ara will be jam whether you are buyers from SPS, Ideal, RID, Asia Greens, Desaria, IOI, Sunway. Every road accessing to north like Batu Maung, Persiaran Kelicap, Jln tun Dr. Awang will be affected. The only good thing is go airport. North Sungai Ara like Setia Greens, OI, and Relau area are much better since they are proposing widen the road and they have more choices of connection. Not to mentioned abt airport sound pollution near Ideal Vision Park. Those dwell in south have to face trafiic jam during the morning if you work in FTZ whether is Jln. tun Dr Awang. Especially Jln tgh there. With Heng Ee school there will bring up more jam during morning.

  139. ezalor
    February 24th, 2013 at 13:12 | #139

    @Lee
    Next 5-10 yrs,whole Penang also jam lar. Aiyo. Some more to compare Setia Green, Relau and OI, really bad comparison. Road expansion? The road expansion only happens ~ 200 meters radious for Relau traffic light. From Paya Terubong turn right, you got jam in front of Min Sin school.
    Turn left, you got 2 more traffic lights before reach the famous jam in Chong Cheng traffic light. Use the Bukit Jambul hill road? Now already jam, it is 1+1 way hill road, now already so many cars from Balik Pulau use that road, imagine next 5 to 10 years. So, your more connections, all leading to jam which unable to fix unless got big flyovers. South Sg Ara still got the opportunity to use the Jalan Sultan Azlan Shah, or Jalan Permatang Damar Laut (going to expand this year by goverment).

  140. Telescope
    February 24th, 2013 at 13:31 | #140

    Presently, how long does it takes from “Vistaria” to Dell in the morning
    going to work ?

  141. PG Guy
    February 24th, 2013 at 13:47 | #141

    @Lee

    Setia Greens traffic problem is happening now while SPI traffic problem is happening in the future if nothing is being done now. For me, SPI still a better place compared to Setia Greens.

  142. Bryan
    February 24th, 2013 at 14:54 | #142

    ezalor :

    Sg Ara Boy :

    kotun :I’ve asked few friends who stayed in Sg Ara about the traffic. In the morning, the Chong Cheng junction could cause a queue till Army area. Another bottle neck is the traffic light in front to desaria. They say the traffice through Tun Dr Awang is much smoother. I’ve tried to drive at night and the smoothest traffic through Tun Dr Awang. For SPI occupants, the main bottleneck is on traffice light of persiarang kelicap right, in the morning?

    I stay around there….There is no bottle neck traffic jam at persiaran Kelicap…but i really dont understand why ppl keep saying that it is jam there…when the jam usually starts at Pearl Garden traffic light and Chong Cheng traffic light…

    I also not understand, and they keep saying want SP Setia to build more access roads, some more want to access to Desa Ria! I wondering whether these people ever been to SPI and know the geography and layout design or not. SPI is surrounded by hill, Ok? To build access road from SPI to Desa Ria for what? Now SPI mainly two roads that seem possible to connect to Desa Ria, but actually it is impossible. Persiaran Kelicap which dead end now at Club House, so, to clean up the hill and build a hill road to Desa Ria? Persiaran Nuri, that is also a dead end road to SPI low cost flat, and the low cost flat is surrounded graveyard. So, you guys want SP Setia to dig out graveyard to build access road to Desa Ria? Dont forget this Persiaran Nuri is resident road, specially build to make it quiet and peaceful , they even put bumpers so cars wont drive too fast, now you outsiders want to represent the SPI residents to request to open their resident road to become main road?! And more one important thing, that access road serve for what purpose? Right now for Persiaran Kelicap traffic light, those who want to go Pearl Garden direction just turn left (no need to wait traffic light), no problem for SPI people at all. So, why insist want to build access road from SPI to Desa Ria which the SPI residents also dont feel the need.

    Great! When come to building high rise condo on hill slope at the difficult geographical structure, developer always claim they have advance technology to make that happen. But when come to building a road, the geographical problem became a very big problem. Actually, N years ago already heard the road will be connected to Desaria, but, need to connect slowly project by project. Not sure is this still valid.

    And, no one want to use the Persiaran Nuri.

    Tonight SPS got chap goh meh celebration. Please visit there to feel the future traffic volume. If cannot understand through theory, have to learn through hard way, or event worst after stay in only understand.

  143. Bryan
    February 24th, 2013 at 14:56 | #143

    @ezalor

    Btw, long time never step in SPS sales office liao. Will Sky 8 and Breeze be the last projects at that area?

  144. ezalor
    February 24th, 2013 at 15:06 | #144

    SPI is a close residential area, which mean those roads inside SPI, persiaran Kelicap persiaran Nuri only will be used by SPI residents, not outsiders. It is a lovely and quite place to live and very less traffic (I suggest go there and see yourself, pls, really). Now, some outsiders so worried about SPI residents in future, afraid Persiaran Kelicap traffic would be huge jam, and demand SP Setia to build extra access roads to Desa Ria and Teluk Kumbar. These “experts” never thought about once these so called access roads been used, the major users are not SPI residents, but outsiders from Teluk Kumbar and Sg Ara. Why, now these SPI access roads will serve as shortcut for whole Penang road users. These “experts” suggest to bring in traffic into SPI, OMG! Access road to Teluk Kumbar? For what? To easier the SPI residents to makan seafood? In fact, most road users from Teluk Kumbar area who want to come to Sg Ara now will pour into SPI and exit from there to Sg Ara.

  145. ezalor
    February 24th, 2013 at 15:17 | #145

    @Bryan
    Again, to connect to Desa Ria for what? Desa Ria there got highway which can bypass all traffic jam in Sg Ara? Or to easier the SPI residents to eat KFC? End up Desa Ria there also huge jam because Pearl Garden traffic light. There is not buyback for SPI resident. On contrary, it will make SPI more traffic due to non SPI residents. Then, Chap Goh Meh celebration of course jam lar. You though everyday is Chap Gog Meh in SPI?

  146. PG Guy
    February 24th, 2013 at 18:11 | #146

    Believe it or not. Less than 10 cars can pass through when the traffic light there turn green. I would suggest any future Sky 8 and Breeze buyers experience the traffic yourselves before put down your bookings. For those who repeatedly said the road is good enough even for the future projects, I am happy that you are happy.

  147. ST
    February 24th, 2013 at 18:59 | #147

    Telescope :
    Presently, how long does it takes from “Vistaria” to Dell in the morning
    going to work ?

    Any feedback ?

  148. ezalor
    February 24th, 2013 at 19:57 | #148

    @PG Guy
    Less than 10 cars pass through during green light is because after traffic there is huge jam until the cars crawling into SPI, or because the traffic green light time is less?
    If traffic green light time is less, simple reason only, that is because less traffic coming out from SPI. Dont tell me you dont know the traffic light time could be set. Famous Relau traffic light also can have >20 cars passing each time of green, so does it mean Relau traffic light less jam compare to SPI? You can suggest to expand the a bit the traffic light waiting lanes, but please dont be crazy until suggesting want to build access roads to Teluk Kumbar and Desa Ria, this will only bring outside cars pouring into SPI and destroy the peaceful leaving environment inside SPI.

  149. Mad
    February 24th, 2013 at 21:40 | #149

    @Bryan
    IDEAL should not open the 1R access road to Jln Tun Dr Awang to SPI.. let SPI buyers feel the pain in the future then only they will realize.. I already told you guys earlier.. hahaha…

  150. Steven
    February 24th, 2013 at 21:51 | #150

    ST :

    Telescope :
    Presently, how long does it takes from “Vistaria” to Dell in the morning
    going to work ?

    Any feedback ?

    A friend of mine told me, it takes him about 45 mins.at least everyday.

  151. ezalor
    February 24th, 2013 at 23:32 | #151

    Mad :
    @Bryan
    IDEAL should not open the 1R access road to Jln Tun Dr Awang to SPI.. let SPI buyers feel the pain in the future then only they will realize.. I already told you guys earlier.. hahaha…

    This is totally childish statement.

  152. Steven
    February 24th, 2013 at 23:35 | #152

    @Mad
    U think jln Tun Dr Awang won’t be jam then you are sorry. With such kiasi and kiasu person like sure u will rot in 1R.

  153. PG Guy
    February 24th, 2013 at 23:53 | #153

    ezalor :
    @PG Guy
    Less than 10 cars pass through during green light is because after traffic there is huge jam until the cars crawling into SPI, or because the traffic green light time is less?
    If traffic green light time is less, simple reason only, that is because less traffic coming out from SPI. Dont tell me you dont know the traffic light time could be set. Famous Relau traffic light also can have >20 cars passing each time of green, so does it mean Relau traffic light less jam compare to SPI? You can suggest to expand the a bit the traffic light waiting lanes, but please dont be crazy until suggesting want to build access roads to Teluk Kumbar and Desa Ria, this will only bring outside cars pouring into SPI and destroy the peaceful leaving environment inside SPI.

    As I said, if you are happy, so be it. If you think extending the green light timing is a straight forward solution, I think that is just your wishful thinking. I think even by widening the road also cannot solve the problem with the traffic light there, because 1R bypass is just single lane entrance from SPI. Unless you turn left and use future bypass at The Clovers.

    And I don’t think I need to mention the traffic nightmare at the Relau junction now with its long green light.

  154. J
    February 25th, 2013 at 00:28 | #154

    @ezalor
    Logically speaking, it is really hard to imagine how traffic jam won’t happen if there are more than 2000 units sharing the same short access road with a traffic light. Even if say there are only 500 cars going out for say from 7.30 to 8.30am, ~40 cars still need to pass through every minute. Don’t think that is possible with traffic light unless it is adjusted to allow SPI much more time …

    And, it is almost certain people from condo would just simply park their cars along the road side. Then, plus the commercial … even worst … people just simply park at their own convenience as if they own the road.

    I think something must be done by the authority to enforce more stringent assessment before any project along the road is given green light, not only SPI, but every developer. As for the current situation, if someone knows a way to complain/file report, please share. I think SPI owners must do something before it is too late.

    And no, I am not saying SPI is not good vs 1R, or trying to bring down its value. Indeed, I am a new owner and satisfied with my purchase. If i were to choose again, I probably would still choose SPI over 1R. However, I do foresee the potential issues with so many condos coming up. Road to Desaria will at least allow a choice to go straight to Pearl Garden, rather than start jamming “in front”.

  155. Penang Homes
    February 25th, 2013 at 01:26 | #155

    ezalor :
    SPI is a close residential area, which mean those roads inside SPI, persiaran Kelicap persiaran Nuri only will be used by SPI residents, not outsiders. It is a lovely and quite place to live and very less traffic (I suggest go there and see yourself, pls, really). Now, some outsiders so worried about SPI residents in future, afraid Persiaran Kelicap traffic would be huge jam, and demand SP Setia to build extra access roads to Desa Ria and Teluk Kumbar. These “experts” never thought about once these so called access roads been used, the major users are not SPI residents, but outsiders from Teluk Kumbar and Sg Ara. Why, now these SPI access roads will serve as shortcut for whole Penang road users. These “experts” suggest to bring in traffic into SPI, OMG! Access road to Teluk Kumbar? For what? To easier the SPI residents to makan seafood? In fact, most road users from Teluk Kumbar area who want to come to Sg Ara now will pour into SPI and exit from there to Sg Ara.

    Building more roads will not solve the problem

  156. some kid
    February 25th, 2013 at 01:30 | #156

    after looking at some of the thread.. it seems like it’s just more battles towards the road traffic of that area rather than the project features itself.

    i think 1 thing that everyone missed out is. yeah. more than 2000 units or even more.

    but again that is a speculation that all are genuine buyer that is staying. not flipping/investment.

    are you looking at 100% occupancy? seriously no right? :)

  157. Mad
    February 25th, 2013 at 08:56 | #157

    @J
    You are right. SPI current residents should lodge complaint about the Sky 8 which is a hill slope project, and also the future traffic problem. Just lodge to MPPP and cc LGE. SP Setia will need to submit Traffic Assessment Impact (TIS) report for such high density project. Let the authority forced SP Setia to at least come out with something.

  158. Mad
    February 25th, 2013 at 09:07 | #158

    ezalor :

    Mad :
    @Bryan
    IDEAL should not open the 1R access road to Jln Tun Dr Awang to SPI.. let SPI buyers feel the pain in the future then only they will realize.. I already told you guys earlier.. hahaha…

    This is totally childish statement.

    Why childish? If you think extra access road is not necessary then should support my proposal. Like your earlier statement in the thread, each developer just care for their own buyers and build the road for own area enough d.

  159. Mad
    February 25th, 2013 at 09:15 | #159

    Steven :
    @Mad
    U think jln Tun Dr Awang won’t be jam then you are sorry. With such kiasi and kiasu person like sure u will rot in 1R.

    1R will be at least more peaceful and faster access to Heng Ee/Ideal Vision Park/airport/Jln Tengah without the >3000 units of condo +landed (SPI, Reflection, Sky 8, Breeze, MR, Orchard Ville) from SPI passing through there. You can either take the super jam jln Dato Ismail Hashim or just rot in your “closed” residential area.

  160. ezalor
    February 25th, 2013 at 09:53 | #160

    @Mad
    You go to suggest lor to Ideal, see can they close they road to Jln Dato Ismail Hashim but only let their residents to exit from Jln Tun Dr Awang only. Wait and see what is their explaination to state government what the hell they block all the road users of Jln Dato Ismail Hashim to access Jln Tun Dr Awang. Asian Green also want to connect existing Jalan Merbah to Jln Tun Dr Awang, ask them to do the same thing lar, seal off the whole project, dont let other original residents at Jalan Merbah there to use the access road, or persuading all the residents around there to agree to close the entrance to Jalan Dato Ismail Hashim, if not hah, all road users from Pearl Garden, SPI there will use the road. If this happen, then it will make Ideal plan to let SPI residents rotten inside fail to achieve, because SPI residents can choose to use Asian Green access road to Jln Tun Dr Awang liao! See, that why I said, this is totally childish statement.

  161. Bryan
    February 25th, 2013 at 10:06 | #161

    @ezalor

    Don’t turn a suggestion to be “insist”, “demand” or something else. I do not demand it or insist it. I do not have any specific interest there. In fact, if bottleneck do happen at the SPI junction, it is actually benefit to the rest of the residents in South Sg Ara because it hold the heavy traffic from flowing to other area too fast.

    My thinking is to reduce the potential traffic issue in future for South Sg Ara area, and I come in peace.

  162. ezalor
    February 25th, 2013 at 10:11 | #162

    @Mad
    And one more thing, without Ideal access road, SPI residents cannot enter Jln Tun Dr Awang? Did you ever been there or not? Anybody also can use the Jalan Mahkamah from Jalan Dato Ismail Hashim to enter Jalan Tun Dato Awang. Ask Ideal go there and seal off the road la. Seal here, seal there, make whole existing state road Jln Tun Dr Awang become proprietary only for Ideal buyers.

  163. Bryan
    February 25th, 2013 at 10:13 | #163

    Mad :
    @Bryan
    IDEAL should not open the 1R access road to Jln Tun Dr Awang to SPI.. let SPI buyers feel the pain in the future then only they will realize.. I already told you guys earlier.. hahaha…

    Right! If thinking of the residents of 1R only, it is best to close the connection to the SPI junctin and open the connection to Jln Tun Dr Awang. But this is lose lose situation. We need a win win solution to the whole South Sg Ara community and both SPI and 1R value will be increased. A good traffic flow will also enable the commercial units there (Setia Tri-angle, Vision Park, etc…) grow better, and we don’t need to go to Bayan Baru frequently.

  164. Mad
    February 25th, 2013 at 10:33 | #164

    @ezalor
    don’t twist and turn. Now do you agree that every developer should carry out the social responsibility to improve the traffic for the whole area, and not give excuse like “this is a closed residential area” then avoid from doing any improvement out there?

  165. ezalor
    February 25th, 2013 at 11:09 | #165

    @Mad
    As I said, SPI is geographically “closed residential area” by its natural. It is not SP Setia got divine power to purposely seal off the area by moving the hills and place around it. One main factor SPI buyers choose there because it is quite and peaceful. Now, because some people afraid got a bit jam during morning rush hour in future, they want SPI to clear the hill and build a access roads to Desa Ria and Teluk Kumbar. Problem is, SPI residents hardly use the roads. Just to avoid few minutes queue only at morning rush hours, but end up bring outsiders pouring into SPI. To curve traffic just for rush hour? But bring in more traffic for whole day. How stupid is that. You can suggest to widen the traffic light, but I am 100% against hill access road. You spend money to built something that you hardly use, but bring more negative impacts to yourself, who will do that? Asian Green and Ideal projects sit in plain field between Jln Tun Dr Awang and Jln Dato Ismail Hashim, that is different case, how could they purposely seal off the roads? They build the access roads you thought for community service? It is part of their project selling point. Last time SP Setia widen the Persiaran Kelicap and Jln Dato Ismail Hashim, it is also their selling point. Did they prevent existing residents there from using it?

  166. Snake
    February 25th, 2013 at 11:19 | #166

    So far anyone knows what’s the price for this project?

  167. DoUWanPsy?
    February 25th, 2013 at 11:34 | #167

    Actually the new road to 1R if still private not surrender to govt, it can be seal off for the 1R righfully. but is that practical?
    It is undeniable 1R have better access and choice in term of roads.

    Why not ask SP SETIA as TAIKO in property to buid an underground tunnel to connect straight to Tun Dr Awang since there are so rich…even buy in UK. No need to see 1R FACE water.
    It is possible , just matter of $$$$. Since they already rip us off so much.

  168. Mad
    February 25th, 2013 at 11:56 | #168

    Let put out solid actions rather that unproductive empty air here. For the current SPI and LMC residents, also the OC soon Reflection residents which are being affected (flippers no need to care), please lodge official complaints to MPPP and office of LGE on the Sky 8 (and may be include others like Orchard Ville also, no bias) since it is hill slope projects, and also highlight the potential future traffic problem. Somehow developers will need to submit the Traffic Impact Assessment to get approval, this will force MPPP/developer to take appropriate actions (at least get the attention early). Last time Regency Height & Sunrise Garden have successfully stop Sunway projects at Desa Ria. You can do it too!

  169. Ops
    February 25th, 2013 at 12:12 | #169

    I sure do hope Sky8 can be stopped. Why do we need such high density condos any way?

  170. zonefinder
    February 25th, 2013 at 19:46 | #170

    @Ops
    Its simple. High rise development = effective usage of limited land. To attract more investments for economic development means more employment and better jobs= more requirement of land and people.

    The solution is to lobby to enhance road and transportation infrastructure, not stop development projects. That’s shooting yourselves in the foot. Investors can easily put their money elsewhere if they are not welcomed. Losers are going to be Penangites!

  171. Mad
    February 25th, 2013 at 21:26 | #171

    Mad :
    Let put out solid actions rather that unproductive empty air here. For the current SPI and LMC residents, also the OC soon Reflection residents which are being affected (flippers no need to care), please lodge official complaints to MPPP and office of LGE on the Sky 8 (and may be include others like Orchard Ville also, no bias) since it is hill slope projects, and also highlight the potential future traffic problem. Somehow developers will need to submit the Traffic Impact Assessment to get approval, this will force MPPP/developer to take appropriate actions (at least get the attention early). Last time Regency Height & Sunrise Garden have successfully stop Sunway projects at Desa Ria. You can do it too!

    @ezalor what say you?

  172. PG Guy
    February 25th, 2013 at 22:40 | #172

    some kid :
    after looking at some of the thread.. it seems like it’s just more battles towards the road traffic of that area rather than the project features itself.
    i think 1 thing that everyone missed out is. yeah. more than 2000 units or even more.
    but again that is a speculation that all are genuine buyer that is staying. not flipping/investment.
    are you looking at 100% occupancy? seriously no right?

    It cannot be empty forever. With new schools coming, I think it should fill up in 4-5 years after completion.

  173. PG Guy
    February 25th, 2013 at 22:43 | #173

    Ops :
    I sure do hope Sky8 can be stopped. Why do we need such high density condos any way?

    As long as SPS pass environment and traffic assessment, i don’t think they should be stopped.

  174. Ops
    February 25th, 2013 at 22:44 | #174

    In this case, I hope SPS can find better development value than 3 blocks of high rise condos of over 25 floors each. SPS can convert the clubhouse to something to add-value, for example Performing Arts Center, swim/tennis/badminton/art/educational academy, college, international school (which was grabbed by IDEAL already), hotel, convention center, state library, planetarium etc. Development not necessary comes in the form of building more condos. Be creative!

  175. PG Guy
    February 25th, 2013 at 22:53 | #175

    @Ops

    Residential and commercial property development is SPS expertise. Not community center management.

  176. Ops
    February 25th, 2013 at 22:56 | #176

    Penang living condition is deteriorating. Nobody seems to care whether they are living out a healthy balanced life. Concrete jungles are all you want? And that’s what you’ll get because all is driven by market force. All left of Penang is just endless skyscrapers.

  177. ABC
    February 25th, 2013 at 22:57 | #177

    @Ops
    I think Penang too much of upcoming international school. The question is are we really need international school for our kids? Also, whos care too add value for such facilities since SPI are almost 100% developed and sold. Of course use it for residential dev to generate more and more $$$. Any dev would do the same unless the area just started to be the main selling point.

  178. Ops
    February 25th, 2013 at 22:57 | #178

    If Setia can put in so much effort to bring up Setia Alam and Setia Eco Gardens, we should demand the same standard for Setia Pearl Island.

  179. J
    February 25th, 2013 at 23:02 | #179

    Let’s stop “shooting” each others. To be fair, the current 2 lanes per direction are probably OK, one for left towards Desaria, one for go straight or turn right, IF … a very big IF -> everyone obeys traffic rules. However, it can already be foreseen there will be road side parking. So, in practice, 2 lanes for sure not enough. If we dont do something now, eventually we will be “over-ruled” at the worst and road side parking become legal. One good example is N-park -> The road towards USM, used to be illegal to park road side, but eventually, authority gave in an draw some parking lots. Of course, that may not happen at SPI, but better to prevent than cure. If I were MPPP, i would enforce widening the downhill lanes at the minimum, especially near the traffic light.

    Mad, thanks. I will check how to lodge a report to MPPP

  180. ABC
    February 25th, 2013 at 23:05 | #180

    I think we all should feel proud to stay in Penang regardless of location of area. Not all places is 100% perfect. Expect less and give more… then we will be happyyy….

  181. J
    February 25th, 2013 at 23:07 | #181

    PG Guy :

    Ops :
    I sure do hope Sky8 can be stopped. Why do we need such high density condos any way?

    As long as SPS pass environment and traffic assessment, i don’t think they should be stopped.

    I believe it will since in theory, 2 lanes per direction are good enough. But when put into practice, it fails due to people behavior … illegal parking for sure will take up one lane. I have seen countless cases where people go to shopping mall, illegally park as near as entrance even though there are many available parking space, unbelievable. Almost make me like a rare species

  182. PG Guy
    February 25th, 2013 at 23:21 | #182

    J :

    PG Guy :

    Ops :
    I sure do hope Sky8 can be stopped. Why do we need such high density condos any way?

    As long as SPS pass environment and traffic assessment, i don’t think they should be stopped.

    I believe it will since in theory, 2 lanes per direction are good enough. But when put into practice, it fails due to people behavior … illegal parking for sure will take up one lane. I have seen countless cases where people go to shopping mall, illegally park as near as entrance even though there are many available parking space, unbelievable. Almost make me like a rare species

    I am not sure whether the one lane to go straight and right turn is enough when all projects complete. I think we can review the situation soon with Reflection and MR.

  183. PG Guy
    February 25th, 2013 at 23:23 | #183

    ABC :
    @Ops
    I think Penang too much of upcoming international school. The question is are we really need international school for our kids? Also, whos care too add value for such facilities since SPI are almost 100% developed and sold. Of course use it for residential dev to generate more and more $$$. Any dev would do the same unless the area just started to be the main selling point.

    I am not sure about other place, but there is none near FTZ. When there is demand, there will be supply, always.

  184. mad
    February 26th, 2013 at 11:42 | #184

    You all turn and turn and ended up back to square one on the traffic problem. Let’s take some solid actions, all near by residents please lodge official complaint/protest to MPPP before it is too late. Don’t later again blame the MPPP for doing nothing for town/road planning. Developers need to provide solutions before building more & more high density projects.

  185. SYOng
    March 4th, 2013 at 15:05 | #185

    Hi all, any idea when this project will be launched and estimated price psf? Thanks.

  186. kevin
    March 4th, 2013 at 15:48 | #186

    come on guys…. the project still havent launch but already big hoohaa here….. as many of you guys comment, SG ARA is really a concrete jungle….

  187. ezalor
    March 8th, 2013 at 17:01 | #187

    @kevin
    Prevention is better than cure. If local residents dont like it from the beginning, better start now to protest.

  188. Jj
    March 11th, 2013 at 09:04 | #188

    Happen to drop by Setia office when going to PC Expo. The staff said launch should be by year end. So, please write in for those who don’t want the area to be overly congested.

  189. FTZ Penang
    March 11th, 2013 at 09:12 | #189

    Cannot stop the developer from building……period!

  190. J
    March 11th, 2013 at 13:46 | #190

    I have written to YB CKY since he seems to be in charge of these, no response yet. Let me also writes to MPPP.

  191. Highlander
    March 11th, 2013 at 14:23 | #191

    @J

    The case is not strong. The project is serving with big road. You reject will not be strong enough. Pls save you energy. Unless you can proven them have safety threat or environment issue, then may be better. Hahaha. Pls do it now before too late.

    If you do this, Orchard Ville also will cos problem. Pls complain also la.

  192. Highlander
    March 11th, 2013 at 14:40 | #192

    Save ur energy, Setis Sky will be build. The road is good to serve more condo.

  193. PG Bridge
    March 11th, 2013 at 15:32 | #193

    This project cannot be stopped….

  194. Traffic
    March 11th, 2013 at 22:19 | #194

    The altitude of the site is 202 meters, which is just over the law regulation limit for hill slope project! Include into the complaint send to MPPP to stop it!

  195. zonefinder
    March 11th, 2013 at 22:27 | #195

    Yeah, lobby MPPP to stop Setia from developing Sky 88. Replace instead with low cost flats so that the poor can also enjoy the nice view. Hill slopes should not be dominated by the rich.

  196. Goreng
    March 11th, 2013 at 22:41 | #196

    The more you complaint, the more safety precaution steps to be done/complied by Setia, which MPPP will force Setia to do more to keep the voice down, which eventually will increase the price of SS8 eventually. The project will never be cancelled, it involves too much loss in profit.

  197. J
    March 11th, 2013 at 23:32 | #197

    I didn’t say the project must be cancelled but definitely more measurement is required. That area together with ideal vision park going to create more than 5000 new units easily. Imagine even only 1/4 with cars, still pretty high. And most probably many go through Jalan tengah to work. Better planning must be in place. Only speculators don’t care as long as it makes money. Also, to build sky8, existing club house has to be demolished. How? The same for Orchard ville, need to evaluate. Both the government and developers must work together, and i think we should also do our part to propose potential solution.

  198. J
    March 11th, 2013 at 23:36 | #198

    Highlander :
    @J
    The case is not strong. The project is serving with big road. You reject will not be strong enough. Pls save you energy. Unless you can proven them have safety threat or environment issue, then may be better. Hahaha. Pls do it now before too late.
    If you do this, Orchard Ville also will cos problem. Pls complain also la.

    Yes, I am not single out sky8 to complain. As I mentioned in different threads, I think the south sg Ara should be properly plan. It is a new township and we have every single chance to make it right unless the government fails us or we fail ourselves with eyes closed, don’t even bother.

  199. March 12th, 2013 at 00:00 | #199

    Mr J, I support you.

  200. Ops
    March 12th, 2013 at 01:42 | #200

    We cannot stop SPS from building Sky8 or RekaIndah from building Orchardville. At least we can strive for a lower density development and the improvement of traffic flows. If the SPI is sold as a lush and high-end development, then The Address in Bukit Jambul by IJM is one to benchmark, not a condo of over 25 storeys.

    If we stand by with eyes closed, we will live to regret that we did nothing when there is still time. My only hope is to savage whatever we can of this beautiful township before the damage is done and unable to reverse. I think we all share this lofty aspiration in common.

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