@Phang
Not even 50%?

phase 3 DST only 3 unit sold at d moment,if not mistaken, very slow though

@buyer, not 50%,but less than 5%

@jon That is bad news. I don’t think they will start the construction if less then 50%.

Hi all,
The Facebook group URL is http://www.facebook.com/groups/178099115644982/

When the CF will be obtained for phase1?

if follow paper, should be around May 2014

hello! What is Phase III price now?

Hai:
Has the road tile already ?

I went to the site last few days….
Yes, phase 3 is selling damn slow…only 3 units sold
The price is RM588K for facing garden unit & Rm568K for others.

All construction for phase 1 & 2 almost completed..now left tar road.
It might take a while to complete….

I visited the phase 1 single storey terrace last few days. the major concern is the land sink. wall cracked….

crack everywhere and poor workmanship is common defect by this developer. All projects are the same.

Crack everywhere and poor workmanship by PLB??? Can give more example?

How much can I rent for DST ? Can rent RM1.4K pm ?

Workmanship for phase 1, 3 areas such as
1. External wall join
2. Wooden Door
3. Kitchen Wall

LAND SINK due to river and earth settlement. Crack is common.
Kitchen and door should not caused by sink but by workmanship.

Rental market for new DST is 1.2-1.8k pm @ BP.

This company has good reputation before, just like prestige heights in Tlk Kumbar and Prestige V, Batu maung. Maybe in this project, the foundation not really good, now cause the problem. Hope not really bad though. Can see crack in car porch.

@steve, maybe rental for RM1.4k in dis area a bit high – honestly if we look around blk pulau, lot of DST abandoned, because owner put the rental too high – botanice,palmyra etc only 20-30% occupied. Put RM700,lot of teachers will ask you later. They afford this price. No one else will rent here coz no factory, hypermarket or big office, unless lot of schools. Be smart on the market demand…better small than nothing.

Looks like Rental Income lower than Prai. 700 for 560K house is too low. .Thanks for Info Jon.

For 500K house, 5% repayment abt RM 2.5K. Interest abt 2k. 700 rental having 1.3K negative cash flow pm. Hold for 5 yrs, abt 70K negative cash flow. Compare to 2.5K pm negative cash flow, 150K negative cash flow.

@Steve
people do not buy property in balik pulau for rental, but for their own stay – and I do agree most people now want to rent their house as we can see in other taman in blk pulau. DST in teluk kumbar rented for rm900-1200, how come DST in BP will be more than that. n people who want to rent property in penang working in bayan lepas, bayan baru and further up area. so better rent DST in teluk kumbar (RM1000) or bt maung (RM1500) which the price is reasonable. n not to say all condo that being build up in bayan lepas, relau, bayan baru etc – in future will be more competitive to BP.

As i said, only school teacher want to rent in BP, becoz they are working there. For your benefit, reduce d price until it can fit their income. so, let stay in BP

cheers

In short term, Balik Pulau is very hard to see the high return result but good for your own stay. Most people commute from Balik Pulau to Air Itam and Bayan Lepas daily. It might takes more than 20 years to develop the Education hub i guess. This is long term game not 5 years.
Furthermore, Balik Pulau only has 50k population compare to Penang total 1.5M. Only 3.5% of Penang population..

Hypermaket like Tesco to be in, average population ratio got to be around 150k. Need more people to stay in Balik Pulau.

Development focus in SPS and SPT compare to BP now.

yes,for long term,blk pulau is good for investment,but not for next 5 years. most people now buy BP property for own stay.better rent in teluk kumbar (rm1000-1200) for DST or bt maung (rm1500) if want to travel to bayn lepas, byn baru etc everyday. n lot more condo being build along byn lepas road in teluk kumbar,byn baru n relau will be major competitive to BP property.let buy n stay in BP though

Stay in BP distance is not very far from town but traffic is very jam heading to Bayan Lepas. If road can be widen at TLK Kumbar it is a prefect place to stay.

Steve :
Stay in BP distance is not very far from town but traffic is very jam heading to Bayan Lepas. If road can be widen at TLK Kumbar it is a prefect place to stay.

Already announced by Federal Government
A massive RM 205million road widening/upgrade from Teluk Kumbar to Penang Airport approved!
The Project will start on 17th Feb2014 .
By comparison, the completed new road after Teluk Kumbar to Balik Pulau only cost RM42million, so you can imagine how big is that road project! More people will move to Balik Pulau as who does not want to stay in big landed instead of unreasonable/ expensive Condo , no matter how luxury or how olympic size the swimming pool!

So, RM468K (early birds) for a Double Storey freehold house with big dedicated public gardens by developer is not so bad after all. After the Teluk Kumbar bottle neck is clear, travelling will be easier, not to mention the scenic views/ sunset horizon when you drive up the hill

DST 468K nya meh ? then corner leh ? Phase 1 price ?

huh :
DST 468K nya meh ? then corner leh ? Phase 1 price ?

Yes, during 2012 CNY property booth at both Queensbay and Gurney Plaza.
RM468K for Double Storey House and at that time, the site was not even clear yet.

That road project is like a main artery to the heart of Balik Pulau. It is crucial.
Every one agree that travelling along the new road after the Teluk Kumbar bottleneck is enjoyable. Now, it is great that a big federal project will start this month to clear that bottleneck.
Wait until SP Setia launches their maiden project, Setia Raintree Residences, a gated and guarded landed housing area in Balik Pulau, then probably, people may start looking at Balik Pulau. You need reputable developer to change people’s mindset/perspective.

But, then, what will be the selling price? When every one is rushing in.

Kenneth: you are pretty fast having this first hand information. Where we can get this published news?

How to validate if this news is true? If this is true, I might want to get a unit.

but Feb 17 start the job , Barang Naik can trust or not….but let’s hope it is true laa, everyone will be happy….

wow, 17/2/14….so fast. my house situated along jln teluk kumbar. i heard that my house will be demolished, but still not receive yet the letter to vacant our house. need time to find new place n also fight for compensation. chinese primary school in teluk kumbar need to be demolished as well for this new road, but no place all these kids can go. will not demolish this school unless they build first a new school for this children. we will not allow this to happen.

maybe the content of the news is accurate, but the date is wrong. For sure not 2014. But lets pray for it, sick having traffic jam every morning.

But today kuang ming paper have this new.

What Kenneth comment is valid.

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/in-the-edge-financial-daily-today/273199-bn-government-will-pump-rm125b-into-penang-projects-this-year.html

For those buyers, good choice made.

I saw the news, is flyover connecting airport Teluk Kumbar. Construction plans to start this year.

This definitely is good news for buyers.

News from The Edge

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/in-the-edge-financial-daily-today/273199-bn-government-will-pump-rm125b-into-penang-projects-this-year.html

helen and kenneth, which newspaper or forum did both of u read? kindly send the link. tqvm……

Guang Ming. You can also get news from the edge malaysia. I’m not allowed to paste link here.

BN pumps RM1.25b in projects in Penang

The projects slated for this year include a RM400 million multi-storey block with space for 331 beds at the Seberang Jaya Hospital, a RM250 million new wing for women and children at the Penang Hospital, a RM205 million upgrading of the narrow road between Teluk Kumbar and the Penang International Airport, and a RM60 million new flyover in Batu Maung at the southern end of the Bayan Lepas Free Industrial Zone.

@.@?? , why cannot paste link leh ?

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/in-the-edge-financial-daily-today/273199-bn-government-will-pump-rm125b-into-penang-projects-this-year.html

Cannot paste link one, the moderator removed it.

You can easily google the news la. At google search for “the edge teluk kumbar road widening project”

For those who interested property in Teluk kumbar and Balik Pulau, advice you to get unit fast.

Says who? Helen the melon or Helen the Oracle? @Helen

lets wait and see next week on the widen road

ya , @TAN , let’s tan and see, if no start work then i think have to tankuku

Desperation to boost up your sales is it? @Helen

In guang ming paper on 10-2-14, say by timbalan menteri kesihatan malaysia (ahli parlimen balik pulau), the constriction plan start by this year.

http://www.guangming.com.my/node/193710?tid-23

You are really smart!

oooo, @Helen, u r the sales ….. do u know the every first price during road show @QBay for DST & DST Corner compare to current 3rd phase price ? then we can know how good is the appreciation will be if without & with all these boost

I heard the OC for phase 1 and 2 will be obtained on Aug 2014, not sure is true?

When I bought my DST, sales person say get OC by April 2014. I will should get the OC be April due to the road is done waiting for OC.

HI:
I visited it this morning. The phase 2 still have 2 units available at 528k due to unqaulify loan issue, whereas the phase 3 ALREADY had 10 units sold out at 568k. OC will be ready in July as feedback from the sale person at show units. My friend told me 1 bungalow nearby the KFC area, got rob by robbery at 4.30am midnight recently. I am not sure …

yes, only 2 available due to loan problem. both facing north and not so hot during sunset – will be cool at night time – i think. phase 3, i think will b hot after show room available for viewing. Go grab one for phase two seems d price still low. n its a positive sign that the OC will be obtained before d end of this year!

showroom not already there long time ? new showroom ?

new showroom for phase 3 project, that what i was told. once its ready, maybe d price will increase a bit.

I saw the phase III design earlier when they were in QB few months back, but I still prefer phase I/II design. Maybe someone can share the phase III design so that other can compare the design.

www.plbhomes.com.my

the ground floor is 4 feet longer compared to Phase 1/2…..i think it will be more comfortable at living area

the sales person told me the difference between phase 2 and 3 are the phase 3 backyard is extended and change the balcony to glass (phase 2 is stainless steel).

the layout for Phase 3 looks no backyard, it is direct back road once open back door as shown on the catalog

i think its ok for phase 3 if no backyard. for phase 1 n 2, no space for washing machine. i did ask the salesperson, they also not sure where to put washing machine.maybe outside. if no backyard, sure an extra space in kitchen for washing machine

yup, either one also ok.

20×70 is too small.. i hope PLB can build 22×75 or 24×85 that will be more comfortable. Also, the staircase design is wasting a lot of space in Living area, if put straight down will be perfect.

Phase 3 if change to 22×75 or 24×85 i might thinking to buy.

bigger , price will higher too even in BP, i think u can go BK there , alot project with this size and much cheaper i think . i think yr wish will not come true cause impossible to change to yr require size for now but may be future project

BK, BM and Alma has a lot.. 22×75. But i looking in island.

Island this size susah get liao , may be old house

agree with lee, design on staircase is wasting lot of space. got chance last week to look for sunway cassia show house, look even bigger even though the wide is 20f. realized design on staircase a bit different. But sunway cassia 3 floor, can’t really compare though.
bit difficult to get bigger DST in BP now with cheap price. metro land in kongsi, two years ago 22×75 (they call super linked) already 650k, maybe 700k++ this year. can’t get cheaper than dis PLB project in BP right now.

Best of luck Lee

nobody consider about too near to the sea?

Typo: concerns

we are far if compare to IJM Light, E&O….hahahaha….

Price if put aside, 22×75 is nice comfortable link house..I am comparing standard link house by IOI/SP Setia in KL. 700k should be okay for people if they looking for a house due to a condo now already more than that. Life quality and life style is new gen looking for..

Even if PLB can build that size 22×75 and straight staircase with 650k, I believe the feedback will be very good. 2ft is small different but it makes a great space different in living area.

anyone want the latest information about this project may email me. Thank.

what is yr email leh?

Horse, y dun just share at here?

Was in BP yesterday, visited the place and i think nothing happen for the last one month. The progress of the project still similar as a month ago. anyone have any idea? why not much workers on the site at d moment?

concentrate on interior now ?

i went last week, looks like all done. Waiting for house number to be in place. Tar road is done also, maybe 1 more layer to put. Overall is ready to move in.

BTW, i hope residents can form a gated community due to safety assurance matter.

No gated for this project.

should not be a problem later on if the residences want to form gated community, but will all of the owners want to join it? I think, those who just bought it for investment (subsale in 2-3 years) will not keen to this idea – n definitely will not pay for it. However, we can sort it out at some stage. According to salesperson, 50% want to stay here, and 50% just for investment. Maybe they will apply for OC in May or June.

what is the titled for this project

We will fully support gated community..even if for investment is good price if gated one.

You can do guarded but not gated. You don’t have the right to gate your area. Your taman is public. You think you can get individual title and yet gates your taman. Where got so delicious free lunch one.

it is individual titled……hmm, good to consider

Let’s made this happen with guarded. I fully support this idea!

I have done the survey, you can gated the whole teres house area ( if all owner agreed to pay but for sure some refuse to have it) You alos can gated for 1 row or 2 rows of the teres house only. Much depend on the owner’s need. 3th option, you can have auto gate implementation on your own rows only (No guard required) with card scanning system.

i believe sure some bought this prop is to avoid paying the endless fees, and now you guys owner going o propose this idea, foresee will get big challenge; anyway goodluck to you guys…

Yes, I don’t want GG community that suck off monthly maintenance.

Money vs safety. Which one would you choose?

@Owner

Why then we have to buy a place that is far from the city and to worry about
the safety ?

Gated area provides no added safety. Feel free just visit the gated housing area like lintang kenari,sungei ara.Make your conclusion.

my first thought when i bought P3 is for investment and i love everything about P3 although it is some distance away. If it is gated, i will probably change my mind and keep for own use.

I strongly oppose GnG!!!!
These ppls are so pathetic. If want GnG at the first place, don’t buy this project lah…go fxxx off.

@Robert Tan Any other suggestion to keep the house safe for owner who is always away?

Anyone know how many % we already pay for developer so far ?

difference phase diff amount paid

@Buyer
To be frank,NO WAY.There were cases of assaults and even killing just infront of the guards in some very high-end conds.

@Khoo
Me too !!!

@Buyer,
one easy way is to install alarm and cctv then link yr alarm to yr cellphone and importantly be nice to all neighbor so that at least some one can help to watch surrounding while u r away :p, help lai help ki…

i bought P3 becuz i dun have to pay the maintenance fees….

@khoo, Robert tan and Lim.
I hope that we are not purchaser of same phase. As long as long same phase owners agree to guarded the area, we still can go ahead with this plan.

@khoo, Robert tan and Lim

No worries. Guard will definitely ignore your house because I can foresee that you will not pay maintenance fees :p

Owner :
@khoo, Robert tan and Lim
No worries. Guard will definitely ignore your house because I can foresee that you will not pay maintenance fees :p

We are all neighbours, lets gather when move in and discuss for solution.

@huh Thanks. .. This could be one of the solution.

yaya, we are all good neighbors here, dun be like SVP forum, top of the list but argument alot there…hehehehe

@Owner

Are you now start threatening the owners that if we don’t pay, our safety is not guaranteed? Pathetic, shame of you…shame shame shame..

@Owner, if u wan guarded and gated, y last time u bought Prestige 3? u should buy the house tat have guarded and gated!

Owner :
@khoo, Robert tan and Lim
No worries. Guard will definitely ignore your house because I can foresee that you will not pay maintenance fees :p

Owner :
@khoo, Robert tan and Lim.
I hope that we are not purchaser of same phase. As long as long same phase owners agree to guarded the area, we still can go ahead with this plan.

Your comment really make me piss off.

I urges all owners who dont agree with the GnG, don’t pay the maintenance fees.

@Khoo
this housing scheme is NOT a gated project,and NO individual or company has any legal rights forcibly to implement this plan.I am very curious and keen to know why certain people enthusiastically try to “push” so hard to implement this plan? they should have know and aware this housing scheme is NOT a guarded & gated project before the purchase made. a gated & guarded area provides NO added safety at all.

Let’ see you can success it or not…..@owner

U pay peanut u get monkey..

How can non G&G become G&G? Individual title and G&G, I also want ler..

Yes. Such a great deal, individual title and GnG. WoW… I will want to get a unit too.

@onwer, based on responses i think you will not success…..surrender now ? lol

here, it is my email. tanweihan111@gmail.com

the 2 issues in this taman is – who maintain the “big taman” and how to secure the “safety” ??

1. MPPP
2. by your Own

no comments

Sadly safety and GG are 2 different story. These 2 factors are “engaged” but not “married”.
GG project have tons of issues, like complains about the guards, their effectiveness and cost. Essentially, with GG u still will have thefts. _Do Not_ assume that with GG you automatically get a safe community.
For many cases, the victims are those who are, unfortunately, a little more ignorant and hence given these opportunistic thefts.
I would rather we beef up the security of our own houses, be aware and have a look out for our neighbors.

l agreed we can secure our own house. Once we walk out the house will be risky as any robbery can happen any where at the garden or river side. GG is not a must but need to help each other if any events happen. Now days hard to find help sad to say that..

I suggest we do gated garden at least..better than open garden..
Never happen never know..but this is residents to say i m just a normal house owner.

GnG by residents is not common situation in Penang, however, you can find this very often in Johore. Earn a individual title and GnG living environment, why not?

This is also to protect our garden, pool, playground from vandalism.. Look at the Palmyra, Balik Pulau, become one of public area. Every evening you can notice that so many motors ride in to use the field/garden. Same things will happen to our area soon, and we have so many facilities.

GnG become hot topic here. May be we can set-up a survey in facebook, see how many people support and oppose this idea?

Below is the scenario my friend witnessed in one of the (average $) taman in Penang:
* Happening during work day around 10am where most were at work
– Break in one of the car parking by the road and smile/wave when my friend rush out to the balcony to see what happen.
– the biker take his sweet time with his gang to search for valuables.
– One of the ‘ah ma’ staying next door close the curtain and later found out she was too scare due to the incident.

BTW that was not guarded/gated taman. After many cases happen (almost 30% kena), they finally have meetings and set up some virtual block (using woods/oil ‘tong’) and hire guards to petrol the taman.

GnG is definitely a great choice for Prestige III. Fully support!

I agreed with Jenny statement, this is what happening now. This is even worst for someone that always outstation.

think of the whole park layout that is not easy to GG, P3 and low cost is using same road to reach their entrance, how u guys going to wall it …. + with so many objections even in this forum already…. hard laaaa~

after do some quick check, we cant say that taman belong to us. after a year, the developer will give d responsibility to maintain the taman to the residents and MPPP. So if MPPP maintain the taman, it belongs to all penangite, not for P3 residents only. anybody can access that taman. can ask the salesperson, this will be d answer. gated will not be allowed. can ask pejabat tanah as i did and if you want to hire guard to walk around the places, possibly can. not many, hire 4-5 people just enough, and maybe each owner pay rm20-30 per month to hire them. this happen in new project like orchardia.

How many percent of the residents support GG/G ? Less than 80% is hard to happen for GG/G.

I can foresee is hard to happen GG/G from the above discussion, maybe 50/50 agreement.
Worst case scenerio is to install more Grills, more dogs, CCTV and Alarm at your house.

sometimes feel very funny with those people, at the first place, ppl bought here sure is to avoid paying endless fee, takkan they buy then susah susah want argue with other residents to implement G/G, if that is their preference, why not early early buy those more well plan G/g project……saje mau cari susah ka ? or like to challenging them self ?

U want G&G then but G&G in first place la..aiyo. Why jumping here and there after u sign the dots.

I am very sure everyone knows this is a NON G&G, and I am very sure too everyone knows and AWARE about the project BEFORE buying. There are many G&G projects(landed property) coming up in Pg. People buying this scheme is just to avoid and evade the ENDLESS monthly maintenance fee and many other issues as regarding to G&G. I am too very particular on security and safety, but what I can do is: 1) maintain good relationship with people esp neighbour 2) install CCTV 3)Alarm system 4) German shepherd.I am now staying in a G&G condo, there are tons of problems unsolved.

It’s so annoying to see people push for GG, what’s the intention? If you wanted GG so much, worried about security so much, why bother with this project? My feel is those “investors” trying the push so they have an extra edge when selling. Also Palmyra was mention, please go visit – i can say 80% pending to be sold.

Want to make it gated? what a joke.

I am not saying gated is not good. I like gated as well.

I am just laughing at those owners who not aware of what they can do and what they can’t do. It is like, you brought a bicycle, and then you say you would like to modify it to have an engine on it and run at highway. And your argument is with an engine, you can reach your destination much faster. That argument may be right but doesn’t permit you to turn a bicycle into a motorbike.

yes, definitely gated not allowed, please realized this! analogy from @NEO is a good one n hopefully all residence clear at this stage. dont mention anymore about gated area. full stop!

About the G&G Pros & Cons…..there are countless arguments in this blog and another forum too. Just look into the various projects name and read its history.

Anyway it is a personal choice but in GENERAL the market demand you can see clearly from the pricing of similar areas comparison.

Eg. Southbay vs. Taman Iping, Sri Aman, Bien Avenue or even Prestige V. why people wan pay more? While u can easily get $1.3M for a terrace?

There is no 100% guarantee 1 la with guard is safer….BUT I guess you need to weight between your family+ property security Vs. the monthly security/managment fees.

1. Install more grills, dogs, CCTV and alarm at your house – one time cost
2. Security/Mgmt fees – never ending cost

I went to see the project yesterday, very nice garden but main road too small

G&G or not, in terms of real safety, it all depends on situation.

Example, if you’re in a business whereby your rivalry might come to your home and gun you down, then, G&G is better lah. It is a hindrance for them as their pictures will be taken when passing the guard house.

But if you’re, let’s say, a teacher, driving small car, no bling-bling, then maybe no difference.

For long term investment and rental, surely G&G condo is better lah, as foreigners always feel safer. But then, balik pulau, who cares!.Anything should be fine lah….:))

Hmmm….judging from the ground reality, its title….blah blah. (Unless there is very strong Majority support and pledge to pay) i think it is very hard to make a “turn back” to convert for G&G.

Does anyone know what is the housing road naming like? Also the house numbering? Just curious

lets move in to stay for 1 year first and see how la

house number got already?? what i understand is left side odd number and right side is even number and road number is random. Can i know what is this taman call ? Prestige3 Park or Central Park ?

no important for this moment , now “topik panas” … mau gate or no gate ….wakaka

no house number yet ma, developer not submit any doc for OC. pejabat tanah n mppp will issue d number, road name n number. all this beyond our control

Guys/gals, plesae check your internal finish and rooftop. actually I have check on my unit and I can told you that it was suck. Sure the rooftop will have water leakage issues and also the internal finishing was suck, some of it not complete and also crack everywhere.

@small chilli

Aiyo why you worry about internal finishing and roof? If got problem, get it fixed yourself lor, boh kui lui nia. Afterall, you have already made the wrong investment by buying balik pulau!! Big picture already “hand gun”, sommo go and worry about all those kacang stuff for what!!…Si Peh Chiu Cheng!…..:)

people buy property in BP for staying. if u buy to invest, sorry to say, u r not clever.go stay in BP!1h to bayan lepas…no they will expand road along telok kumbar even though news come out construction will start in February.

@small chilli, thats normal, good thing not cheap though.this is cheapest project in BP at d moment, so will be least in quality.

people buy property in BP for staying. if u buy to invest, sorry to say, u r not clever.go stay in BP!1h to bayan lepas…no sign they will expand road along telok kumbar even though news come out construction will start in February.

@small chilli, thats normal, good thing not cheap though.this is cheapest project in BP at d moment, so will be least in quality.

@bob

Staying in BP very clever ah? Surely regret one lah, stay in Batu Kawan better, and the development in Batu Kawan would be 30 times as fast as BP….:))

willing to stay in teluk bahang rather than batu kawan.hahaha.

small chilli :
Guys/gals, plesae check your internal finish and rooftop. actually I have check on my unit and I can told you that it was suck. Sure the rooftop will have water leakage issues and also the internal finishing was suck, some of it not complete and also crack everywhere.

yea, I totally agree. Wonder how this listed company can produce this kind of sucks quality houses. Should anyone out there not believe, you may go n take a look at the single storey terrace, the land is sinking!!!!

I have checked mine.
Perfectly fine. High quality solid wood door with nice roofs.
Satisfied and happy to have bought one.
I paid RM468K for this beautiful house.
I think even a 1000sq ft condo at high level will cost more than RM500K now!
This is a Double Storey landed Freehold house.

Freehold means you can wait, you can keep, your children can inherit from you…

Hikato :
I have checked mine.
Perfectly fine. High quality solid wood door with nice roofs.
Satisfied and happy to have bought one.
I paid RM468K for this beautiful house.
I think even a 1000sq ft condo at high level will cost more than RM500K now!
This is a Double Storey landed Freehold house.
Freehold means you can wait, you can keep, your children can inherit from you…

Agreed!!!

Agreed ! BP is a long term investment.

Now days build a DST material cost 400K. l think developer margin is low. Problem is workmanship not material quality. Use cheap labour and supervisor. I also accept this before buy because is cheap for own stay. And 2 yrs to complaint .

@good man, what u wan to complaint for 2 yrs long? lol

2 yrs complaint on any defects upon oc obtained..dont know now later will know lol

@huh, water issues/wall crack/piping issues/ tiles etc

One very obvious place that crack seriously is the back yard wall between neighbour, expecially corner unit. Another place is the car porch slab, many injection hole have been done.

P3 project is vry close to the river..Previously was swampy land?

Check for the following: 1) rain water leaks from ceiling, a very,very headache n tedious problems,many revelent people leave the problems unsolved and “chabut” 2)electrical cables overheated due to loose contact,targetted area is the incoming n s/w board
3) wall always damp indicating the pvc pipes are not properly glued 4) sewage blocks, “Tai Wok”!
Soil sinks due soil sediment,almost occurs in every housing project, can’t be help.

#3 and #4 is major problem due to all piping are inside the wall..no way for maintenance to be done except hacking the wall, sure happenned when got block. design problem.

no warranty one meh ?

What the developer wl do if the land sink? I do not think the developer wl rebuilt the house. the house owners always at the losing end. ai…

The wall at car porch cracks and the line between tiles along the door is huge due to the sinkage. Backyard wise, can see 1 inch sinkage line. bad luck.. and dare not to buy any property from PLB again in future.

so gai ? wasaii…this weekend have to go to visit my unit liao , yrs is single stry or double stry ?

few units still locked, nt sure why. but can enter from d back door. car porch is the worst area, all units is similar, got crack. not sure y this happen to this project. previous PLB project no problem

No piling in car porch area that’s why crack easily..

Car porch area is indicator to show whether one land sink or not.

hihi, sorry to ask , are all you guys talk happen to only SST ? anyone here visited DST , i will go this weekend but would like to know now first how serious or got happen to DST or not :p

Most of the project will crack due to land sinking..normally they put sand and wait for 6-8 months to let the land firm before built house..within 1 yr will be more firmed or less sinking.

once OC obtained, have to move in at once, do not wait! Advise to use every item in full swing or maximun load. This is something like QC check!All new houses only warranty for 12calender months, over that period,makan sendiri !That is why uncle here advise all to move in quick. This developer has the WORST planning, they should have build the community hall and the flats same time period with the houses to avoid cracks due to vibration.WTF !

since there is land sink issue, what we as the house owners can do? Very worried and concern this problem.

agree with @Robert Tan. Planning for this project a bit doggy. once low cost n 3rd phase start, the crack will be getting worst. its best if we can wait for any renovation once we get d key. once we renovate, then that area will not be under warranty anymore. but for sure, dont try to renovate the car porch area yet, all of us will need to complaint about this are later on, i guess.

*I think warranty for 24 months, not 12 months. Will double check this.

I think SST units are the worst in term of crack. not sure what will happen once apartment being built, more vibration as these units closer to this apartment site. but still can complaint later on, dont worry

By 1 more year will know better..good idea to hold on reno first when get oc. Piping and tiles will crack if sinking too much. After 2 yrs will be less sinking due to earth is more firm.

chia lat, look like this project also alot of problems……from every project forum, look like all got problem , is it all developer in My is lousy ? haizzz

Is it land sink and crack problem will affected or not when the time developer to apply OC, please comment.

with current situation now, not easy to obtain the oc (now ccc) if got problem. architect issue the ccc now. if project got some problem n architect give ccc, later complaint n architect will faces problem. architect will be more careful now to issue ccc. for this project, i think will delay for ccc. just guess.

Better to delay the oc then later life threatening, better to receive good product then complaints in future

agree with betterdrag, better if they delay the oc if there such a problem. i dont want trouble once staying there. better late than suffer for whole life.

Do not have any high expectations on any developers, any defects they just do the superficial(cosmetic) repairs. I am very sure NO developers will delay the hand-over of OC, except there is a VERY big issue regarding the structure,and at that moment government shall involve.

history have again taught us another “repeated” lesson(s).

if you read through many of this blogs, the conclusion is the risks are very high in buying New “unbuilt” projects.

The saying goes…. “You see what you get, and you get what you see”, isn’t it? If it hasn’t build what you see is brochure and place the most trust on developers?

At the point of purchase, do you have the ready SUPPLIES option of subsale houses there in that surrounding BP? You can also see the neighborhood and environment clearly if it meet your family expectation?
Are the price gap too far? Eg. Are those subsale house UNAFFORDABLE >15-20% higher??

I am not saying you cannot buy totally new projects but more due diligence and background check require….especially if you are genuine buyer and for your family long term stay.

We cannot “turnback” clock….but don’t repeat the mistake.

Wf :history have again taught us another “repeated” lesson(s).
if you read through many of this blogs, the conclusion is the risks are very high in buying New “unbuilt” projects.
The saying goes…. “You see what you get, and you get what you see”, isn’t it? If it hasn’t build what you see is brochure and place the most trust on developers?
At the point of purchase, do you have the ready SUPPLIES option of subsale houses there in that surrounding BP? You can also see the neighborhood and environment clearly if it meet your family expectation?Are the price gap too far? Eg. Are those subsale house UNAFFORDABLE >15-20% higher??
I am not saying you cannot buy totally new projects but more due diligence and background check require….especially if you are genuine buyer and for your family long term stay.
We cannot “turnback” clock….but don’t repeat the mistake.

Mistake?
When I bought D Piazza Condo, I heard exactly what you said now! it was a mistake. Less than RM300K for a 1300Sq Ft Freehold at that time was still a mistake!
Developer no experience, etc etc.
People talked like experts with far sighted opinions, not to mentioned their never ending analysis…..Go and check how much D Piazza Condo worth today? RM650K at least.

Back to this project, RM468K for a freehold double storey house in Balik Pulau is again, a mistake? hahaha!
Let’s wait and see. Really, I don’t need to analyse or talk more. The bottle neck at Teluk Kumbar will be cleared in 3 years time via Federal Road widening project. It has started.
Probably 3 years is too ambitious target, let’s see what will happen in 5 years.

Any way, care to check how much The Maven is selling now, it is just a walk-up 1000Sq ft apartment. If you know the selling price, you will say OMG, Prestige 3 is such a bargain!

True, time and tide wait for no man, cannot “Turn Back” clock like what you say.
Remember, so does the price. Don’t you ever regret one day if you could have owned a landed in Balik Pulau

If the land sink and house crack seriously and even how better the touch up job done by developer, the crack line still will happen between few day, unles developer just finish touch up and immediately invite architect come to QC check and obtain oc. I say that because after mention the crack line still happen back in very short period after touch up by developer.

@Steven Thumb up!!! 100% agree.

Hmm, my point is not about it is wrong to buy in P. III. But obviously there are other ready choices for you to choose in BP at the point of purchase. I just don’t understand the mentality of everything must be new…….is it worth the risks? U really dont have other choices?

Of course if some1 just being too paranoid or over-analyse not buying any property at all then we can say great great mistake.

In the case of D Piazza, same situation if some1 just criticize and not buying then he/she is greatest loser.
But at the point of D Piazza launch ( I was there) let say u don’t buy but instead buy Lavinia or Putra place (about the range higher ~10%). The buyer in any case (u can compare their market price) don’t lose too, right? Just that if u bought either Lavinia or PP then u can sleep well for 3 years and collect the rental. Hence I didn’t buy Dpiazza instead.

Anyway I think it is hard to compare here, as Dpiazza was at a great location despite its quality and all those gangster story. I personally recommended few friends to buy it after the OC…..bcoz I can see its pros and cons CLEARLY. i dont have to lose sleep.

Wf :
Hmm, my point is not about it is wrong to buy in P. III. But obviously there are other ready choices for you to choose in BP at the point of purchase. I just don’t understand the mentality of everything must be new…….is it worth the risks? U really dont have other choices?
Of course if some1 just being too paranoid or over-analyse not buying any property at all then we can say great great mistake.
In the case of D Piazza, same situation if some1 just criticize and not buying then he/she is greatest loser.
But at the point of D Piazza launch ( I was there) let say u don’t buy but instead buy Lavinia or Putra place (about the range higher ~10%). The buyer in any case (u can compare their market price) don’t lose too, right? Just that if u bought either Lavinia or PP then u can sleep well for 3 years and collect the rental. Hence I didn’t buy Dpiazza instead.
Anyway I think it is hard to compare here, as Dpiazza was at a great location despite its quality and all those gangster story. I personally recommended few friends to buy it after the OC…..bcoz I can see its pros and cons CLEARLY. i dont have to lose sleep.

Your problem is analyse and analyse….why alosing sleep? Buy property only what, you are not alone.
Your mistake 1: was there at D Piazza early project promotion but did not buy.
Your mistake 2: a double storey freehold in Penang Island at RM468K also dare not buy, never learn from mistake 1

Your mistake 3: try to make people think like you. Act like very smart . Who want to buy 2nd thing if can buy brand new? You funny guy

flipper likes WF this kind of people…..and WF kind is make flipper richer….lol

Well, just to be clear, my current properties (incl landed) are on this side of Penang island.
All my previous transactions too on this side

I agree that BP price is more affordable if u want landed.

To me, property is not like a wife, not necessary die die want new 1.

Anyway, i believed now is a good time to go Cherry pick in BP as more & more investors wan to sell already! Furthermore few projects to compare……good for genuine buyers!

Anyway, i m here to share. listen or not……. up to readers.

Wf could be the smart guy. He may be either a flipper himself or a property agent.

definitely he is property agent…can guess from his words

Good conspiracy theory!……hey not bad idea, earn extra being agent, can ask around vacancy lor!
Wait a minute, market now already slow la…..so easy to sell?

Anyway, I don’t want hang around this particular project space in this forum….since the feeling is I m here to bad mouth. “Siapa makan cili, dia rasa Pedas”.

For sure I would go and see your project at site. Should have some good deal there.

Sayonara!

Hi Wf, wait a minute. I can c u really know d market property in Penang as well as BP.

What u think at the moment market demand in BP? Will this project will be like other new project in BP – lonely and just quarter of them occupied? can see in mudah.com, most of them keen to let their property sold asap. y this happen. Will P3 have the same fate?