agree, nice place and accessible, and the road is WIDE.

but in term of investment, shop lot is always better choice compare to resident.

I oso interested to get an unit there, but wish to see the sample unit before buy it^_^

Does any1 knw when will the sample house get ready?

I oso fully support the purchasing club ^_^@Lo

Dear all Carnation buyer,

Nice to hear all the pro & con sharing here^_^ I will sure join the purchase club if i success to buy a unit there^_^

@Ice
i see the site actively work for landfill, i think sample house will be ready next 4 months, anyway, i will confirm with developer this weekend. Once the sample house completed, we can form the purchaser club to discuss any issue regarding quality, design of the house, let’s wait leader or chairman call for 1st gathering

Lo :@Ice i see the site actively work for landfill, i think sample house will be ready next 4 months, anyway, i will confirm with developer this weekend. Once the sample house completed, we can form the purchaser club to discuss any issue regarding quality, design of the house, let’s wait leader or chairman call for 1st gathering

Follow what Orange Villa did?

@kanebo
my relative stay opposite of the site (taman bukit minyak indah), i can get up-to-date info when visit them or vice versa.

@Lo
If we looking at 3 months (incl. clearing land, land filling, pilling, building, and furnishing) to complete the show house, then there is a possibility to view the show house in next 4 months. By that time is already end of September. Otherwise it will more likely by end of year.

For that time, there is a possibility the house price increase again. So for those that wait for show house without early booking need to prepare additional 15%-20%. This project may takes 2-3 years to complete. By that time i think the price will increase additional 5%-10%.

Now most buyer play safe by waiting show house. But show house doesn’t determine the quality of house. What you see is just a structure of a house. If the developer want to reduce the quality of house after getting too many complain with the show house (e.g. Orange Villa) it can easily be done. It is all engineered.

Great!!!!!@Lo

@Ovilla-My
ya, agree what u say. I already booked one unit in Feb 2012, just hope developer build good quality dream home Anyway, after show house complete, purchasers can gather & feedback to developer to improve further.

I oredi book a unit le ^_^

@T
congrats ! what type of house u booked? terrace or semi-D? pls share why u book your ideal house here.

If we want to go to Penang Bridge, how are we going to exist to the main road ? Is that near to carrefour traffic ? If yes, its quite far away from main road. Any shortcut road ? The house is very close to the high way, will it impacted by the noisy sounds ?

@angie
this project is not beside PLUS highway, just nearby, the development not reach beside highway because that piece of land not belong to Oriental Max, i.e. the housing area is 50-100m away from highway, no impact of noise from vechicles. From here to Auto City just 5-6min drive, anyway, what do u mean main road? Is it Jln Bukit Tengah which link to auto city? The residential area just 200-300m from Carrefour & shoplots nearby, i think it is very convenience for groceries shopping & eating out at restaurants (such as Pelita Nasi Kandar, KFC etc).

Decide to book a Terence unit on tis coming Sunday…..hope to join the purchaser club too:-) happy neighbour ^_^

Coz the location not bad and price still affordable.

@Lo

Coz the location not bad and price still affordable.

@Lo
Purchacers need to keep a close watch on the landfill, to ensure the contractors do a total removal of the oil palm roots.
The other thing is the G&G mutual covenant. Since there is a 5″ back land within the terrace plots, we will need to decide on how to go about the renovation clause involving the back land. It may be fine to disallow color code changes, facelifts etc., but i hope that renovation to the rear plot of land will be considered; perhaps even have some standard packages to choose from.

@allen
perhaps developer play an important role to set the rules & regulation for renovation, because it is strata title, not individual title. Anyway, i think after showhouse completed or when time to sign SnP, developer will inform all rules & regulations for GnG residential area.

Huh? we need to follow the rules & regulation for renovation de ah? then mah cham……zzzzzzz

@T
rules of renovation only applicable for external renovation such as window’s grill (pattern & colour), awning etc, it is common rules for all GnG residential area. Meanwhile, for internal renovation, do whatever u like as long as not affect the neighbour.

any chinese primary school near by?

@strawberry
the most nearby chinese primary school (Jit Sin) is in Taman Sri Rambai, which need 5-10min drive from here.

Does any 1 know Wat tile will they provide for 1st floor? Is it same as ground floor 2*2? Or smaller tiles?

Does any1 know hw r we goin to pay the interest within the house complete if developer not bare it?

I dont know how carnaton villa garden? Just now go to DNp project bm utama phase3 show house the garden is prefect very beautiful and feel good green eviroment.

yes i agree. If developer doing the good garden in show house easy make customer feel in good green enviroment definitely many people will purchase the house.

I hear the dnp bm utama doing green enviroment selling almost 80% house. Is a good concept in marketing.
Because every one looking for dream house and the good enviroment. If carnation villa follow green concept i think very fast to sold out the house.

@g1
the terrace or semi-D units facing garden & swimming pool cost RM60k more if compare with other units, i think price too expensive cause most purchasers prefer to buy cheaper unit. I wish developer doing great & beautiful garden landscape so the purchaser feel worth to pay extra RM60k for the house.

One more thing the play ground is every important too, because most of kid will like it. And than the parent will buy good house for they child.
I dont think so oriental max will do it this concept only the big developer can do it.

@T
no details on the tiles, need to wait showhouse complete & see it.

@Ice
ya, developer not bare the bank interest during construction of the house, so far Public Bank offer the best rate in town, 1st yr BLR-2.5%, 2nd & 3rd yr BLR-2.45% & thereafter BLR-2.4%.

@Lo
yes , you say is true. hope the developer can hear that.

@g1
Most reputable developers today are capatilizing on the green theme, both in building consturction as well as landscaping. Hope Oriental Max reads this and listens in implementing a functional and plesent green enviroment for it’s customers. We would like to have more details at the sales office on type of trees, lighting, landscape details, contours, perimeter plantings. There is also the added opportunity to capatilize on the river features at the end of the lot. Use the opportunity well Oriental Max.

the sales person told me tat all the tiles is 2*2, but duno hw true is tat la.

and for the backyard, one of them said is brick wall, but the other said is jus dawai fence nia…..if tis is true, then we need2 spend more money to built ourself the brick wall le….zzzzzzzzzzzz

i went to see the Hill park show case, love the hil top living concept very much. But jus the concern is , r they confirm can maintain the green garden nicely, hw if some of the resident dun wan to pay the maintainent fees?

Im one of the member for Carnation villa le^_^ So happy to see they r now working on the show house le ^_^

@T
nowadays most developers use 2*2 tiles, i think sales person dare not to cheat purchasers, particular sales person will bear responsiblity, they just follow what top management informed.

for backyard fence, i have no idea about what type of wall fence, hopefully is brick wall, i will feedback to developer.

@Lo
Good ^_^

the developer slow down the sample house. i guess they sales the project is not really good.

@yumi
Or perhaps the plan is yet to be approved by government. Try google more, you can get more information about this.

@yumi
I stay opposite of the site, landfill work is actively progress everyday. Sales of this project a bit slow because developer not actively marketing & advertise the project, i do not know why? For 3 storey semi-D only 4-5 units booking.

Oh no…..seem like not good in marketing value?

@monica
from a marketing point of view, there’s no point in having a sample/showhouse unless you have the opportunity to sell the product at a higher price later. The terrace units have a good take up rate. But then again, there’s no sample semi d showhouse [correct me if i’m wrong]…so i’m wondering what’s the companies strategy to move the semi Ds.

@allen
nowadays more & more purchasers prefer to see the sample/show house before making decision to buy, most developer realise this trend & rush to build sample house rather to spend so much money on advertisement. I m the one who waiting for sample house of this project, i do not mind to pay extra for the house as compare with other early bird get RM30k rebate, i m very concern quality & material use.

MM Ow :
@allen
nowadays more & more purchasers prefer to see the sample/show house before making decision to buy, most developer realise this trend & rush to build sample house rather to spend so much money on advertisement. I m the one who waiting for sample house of this project, i do not mind to pay extra for the house as compare with other early bird get RM30k rebate, i m very concern quality & material use.

I agree with you. It is better to see the showhouse first before booking. Do not make the same mistake like the orange villa buyers.

我也一样。

@mike

@甘小姐
I heard the terrace corner unit selling fast because not many units offer, it is good to wait until sample house to complete then make decision but mostly we cannot get the unit (location) we want, all good feng shui location have been booked by early birds. After reading bad comments from Orange Villa, I think it is good lesson to learn, I prefer double storey house & probably wait until sample house to complete, anyway will go & check with developer the status this weekend.

check the sales chart at sales office, the intermediate unit (RM429k) selling fast, corner unit with larger plot & unit facing landscape & pool not so popular, maybe of price factor, for eg, buyers need to pay extra RM60k for the unit facing garden & pool. In my opinion, not worth to pay extra RM60k & I can use this money for renovation.

Semi-D so far 10-11 units have been booked & sales person told me sample house with fully furnished will be constructed to promote sales, meanwhile sample house without furnish is corner & intercorner units.

Paiseh ah…. Uncle not very pandai in Bukit Minyak area so seeking some advice from the good souls here….

Actually, in the earlier comments about Twin Villas…
What’s the problem with Twin Villas ah? I see see after paying Juru toll, they still hang big big banner say Bumi lot released. Until now not 100% sold ah that Twin Villas?

Uncle dare not drive in the Twin Villas because the pak guard stare at me like I’m some robber.. I so scared I fast fast drive away…

Hi, did any1 knw lot no. 24 & 28 sold out liao boi for terrace?

@Uncle Ho
I’ve been to Twin Villa before. I think it is too close to highway, and have some noise pollution, esp when the heavy vehicles are in their low gear after passing the toll towards south.

@BD

Hello BD! Thank you for your information… hmmm….

@Happy
yes, unit 24 & 28 has been sold, the intermediate unit selling out fast, the unit left are: 9, 10, 11 & 15 in first row; unit 23 in second row; & unit 78, 79, 80, 84, 85 facing garden & pool.

Wah…..fast selling Liao ah!!! Then after sample house done, all mah sold out d? Zzz…….

Too bad >.<I plan to get lot 24 de……

@Happy
why u wanna select unit 24, good feng shui? unit 23 still available leh.

The intermediate unit in first row cost RM428k, unit 23 is RM429k, & the units facing garden & pool is RM489k.

The corner unit with larger land plot only sell 2-3 units, but corner with standard land plot cost RM528k also selling fast.

@甘小姐
sample house(s) mainly want to promote corner & inter-corner unit, which is the lot size more bigger: 29′ x 72′.

@Lo
price of house more & more expensive, surprise terrace corner sell at RM528k, if wait to the sample house complete, developer will remove RM10k rebate, then become RM538k. I plan to book intermediate unit which is only 10 units available, anyway, thanks for the info.

Yes, unit 24 de feng shui quite good .

@Happy
how about unit 23? just side by side with 24. That row only left one unit for intermediate i.e. plot 23. Lawyer already informed SnP is ready to sign, anyone already signed it?

@Lo
Do you have any idea what is the content of SnP? Or do you have any idea how is the process like?

Come across some websites , mentioned that they (developer) suppose completed the foundation works before get a buyer to sign SnP. In which for initial SnP, buyer need to pay 10%. Upon signed SnP, buyer is given 3 mths to get a loan. Then the lawyer will start to chase you from time to time to get a money (base on time frame mentioned in the link provided above).

Need an advice from expert whether it is a correct process.

Also check on website, this project has yet to get approval (or lulus) status from Jabatan Perancangan PBT. Not sure, whether it is save to rush for SnP at this stage. Or does Oriental Max desperate for money? Since the respond of SemiD section is not so well.

@Ovilla-My
http://www.hba.org.my/laws/Guidelines/4-2003(BI-REVISED2005.pdf

@Ovilla-My
Wow…..good question!!! Who can help to giv a good explanation?

From my experience: S&P can be signed even before the foundation work start, and the first 10% should be paid upon stamping of S&P (even though the construction stage doesn’t reach 10%). After that, the bank will release loan stage by stage according to the work progress certified by the architect.

@Ovilla-My

@Happy
ya, agree with BD & i have checked my 1st home SnP, 10% is payable upon signing SnP & then another 10% payable upon piling & foundation for the parcel, then 15% payable upon the reinforced concrete framework & floor slab of the said parcel & so on…

after signing SnP, bank only able to process loan & prepare loan agreement for buyers.

I’ve just received call yesterday evening from lawyer office for 10% payment and signing of S & P…Thank you

for the last 10 units of intermediate terrace house, RM10k rebate is removed. For corner & inter-corner units, developer still provide RM10k rebate.

@Lo
without much advertisement (compare with Tambun Indah, adverstise everyday in paper), the terrace houses sold almost 88%, well done Oriental Max, this trend show that 2 storey terrace house still very popular in Penang.

@Carlos
What about shop houses and semi-detached(twin bungalow)?

@psang
shop houses still 5 units left & booking respond for semi-D not so good, i.e only 10 units booked. Due to this, sales person told me company will build sample house with furniture for 3 storey semi-D to promote sales.

@Carlos
so, did u book one? i m going to sign SnP this weekend.

Dear all purchaser: the SnP does not state the height of the ceiling (9 ft,10ft or ?) & developer only provide 2 heater points for bathroom (terrace house has 3 bathroom). I request the above details written in SnP before signing.

Anyone getting a house loan? Which bank?

@Gina
Thanks for the heads up.
Anything about the back yard fence/wall, perimeter wall heights? And has the developer finally gotten actual samples of the tiling as yet?

@Ovilla-My
loan approved by Public Bank & already signed the SnP.

@Gina
when sign SnP, i did ask developer about the heater point, they replied only 2, but will submit our request to head about additional heater point. For ceiling height, developer say standard is 10ft, however it does not state in the SnP, i just trust what they said.

@Gina
Good job!!!!

@Lo
yes, i book a corner terrace house & waiting for loan approve from the bank

The developer for my current house is OrientalMax. The ceiling height is 12’, finishing is satisfied. WORTH buy!

Just signed the S&P yesterday with the lawyer at the site office. There is some conflicting news about the underground cabling. I’m now hearing from them that the cabling is partially underground, with cables still being carried by poles. For a 400+K house, this is a poor start to a high guality enviroment. Was told that i’ll get a clearer picture this week. I find this hard to believe as they dont seem to be able to give an answer to a simple question.
2nd item is the mutual covenent on house facade. As no awnings, etc are allowed on the balcony, i had posed the developer a question to have gutters included into the sloped roofs. This is a mandatory requirement to prevent a flooded mess on the balcony each time it rains and should be a standard fitting provided by the developer.

@allen
sales person (Ms Tan) told me that all the cable is underground, i will call office to know more about what does developer mean partially underground??

for awning, owner can fix it but must follow specification that set by developer (such as colour, shape etc). I don’t think developer will install gutters to each house, anyway, we may request, the more people request & complain, i think developer will accept it.

@allen

@Lo
before i pay deposit of RM10k, developer told me cabling underground, now change the plan partially underground, the developer always like to give ’empty promise’ to lure purchasers to buy the house, irresponsible developer just want to say anything they like…. sigh. i think i better not expect much they will deliver the house with ‘this & that’ quality, the higher expectation, the higher chances we get dissapointment.

@Carlos
Agree wit u very much!!!! We need to 争取到底！！！！！！

before i pay the 10k deposit, Miss Tan also tell me the cable is underground, if cable is not underground can i take back my 10k deposit?

Thinking of not buying…

Yes, dont buy when the cable is not underground. Wait for other projects. =)
The developer is not sincere at all.

By the way, ARE YOU KIDDING me? Drop the project because of the underground cable issue?
You will have lots more complaint after the hse is done such as worksmanship defects and so on. Dont be bothered by such tiny issue.

All developers are same – Before u buy, u are a “King” to them. After u signed S&P, they are a “King”, not u !

dear all purchasers, i have made a complain to cabling underground issue to developer, frankly, one person power is not strong enough, i wish for those concern about the cabling, pls voice out to developer, the marketing dept contact person: Mr Ang or Sales dept: Ms Tan.

@why lying to us
if u cancel booking u only get back RM8k, RM2k forfeited. Agree with Carlos, feedback to developer if u really concern the cable underground, complain at this forum won’t help, developer can’t hear your voice.

Anyway, i m not too concern cable under ot not underground, i haven’t booked, i m still waiting the sample house to complete, i m concern house quality & height of landfill matter.

Just signed the S & P and loan agreement recently…

Me too..i still waiting for the sample house.

i booked 1 unit but not yet sign S&P. Any implication for delaying the S&P signing? i plan to sign after sample house ready..

@yk
Suggest you tell the developer and lawyer that there are irregularities in what has been claimed [offered] earlier and what is being said today and you have doubts, and therefore need to hold. See what they say then.

@yk
sample house only completed end of 2012, do u think developer allow u delay signing SnP?

@Carlos
Great….I will voice up too!!!! If no underground,dun buy!!!!!!!!!

@Happy
the developer will not agree with you bcos underground cable is more expensive.

@yk
Me too……

@MM Ow
you can try Permatang Sactuary. Booking fee is 100% refundable before you signed S&P. S&P signing will start after their show house is ready – by end of this month. PS land is bigger (32.5 * 98) and built up area is 22*48. Cost about RM550K. The landscape of the show house is great .. you can go there and see yourself …

@lost
i prefer GnG, Permatang Sanctuary project is without GnG. Carnation location is vey nice to me, more easy access to auto city & PLUS highway. IJM always built the quality house, OMax also has record of good quality houses in Butterworth & Twin Villa (juru), anyway, still want to see their sample house before making any decision. Cabling underground will be added advantage, I just do not understand Carnation has club house, swimming pool etc, but not cabling underground, really spoilt the view of residential area.

Do anyone know how many units still left at this moment?

@cj
for 3 storey semi-D, 11 units booked (total 48 units), intermediate units more popular, as i remember only 9-10 units left (2weeks ago), the price has been increased to RM439k (no more discount), meanwhile for terrace corner & inter-corner still available & developer provide RM10k rebate.

Where can I take a look? where is the sales office? How much the terrace corner and inter corner?

I am seriously considering a unit here… but i just called up the developer…
a sales agent told me that the cables are semi underground…. he told me only the cables that lead to the houses are underground…. but all over the taman there will still be electricity poles with cables hanging…
nice project… but certain drawbacks…

@Kiong
The sales office is opposite the Bukit Minyak Carefour, between the corner coffee shop and the mini police office. Unfortunately it only opens on weekends. Suggest you call the office listed above.

@Kiong

@allen
office now open daily except Tuesday. For terrace coner with standard plot land cost RM528k (after RM10k rebate), sorry no idea about the price of inter-corner.

@seraph
before pay the booking fee, developer informed cable fully underground, now change the plan partly underground, big liar. Buyers who pay extra RM60k to buy houses facing landscape garden & swimming pool will also see the black thick cable hanging around, very low standard & very cheap ! Don’t understand what developer thinking??

@Carlos
exactly mate… a gated and guarded neighborhood… with a pool n clubhouse… n especially those who paid 60k extra for the view, definitely do deserve something worth for their money…
anyway to voice out to the developer?

@seraph
already feedback to developer, i think cable partly underground will go ahead, it is their decision. I think majority purchasers not concern much about cable not underground, that’s why developer no intention to change the plan, only minority voice out this issue won’t effect.

what is “cable partly undergrounded”? I am curious … Will you still see the tiang tiang? I know they have to spend a lot of money to put cable underground.

@Kiong
pls refer message #103, u will know what is cable partially underground

Ok got it.. tiang tiang masih ada …. just you dont see cable connected to every houses.

@Kiong
tiang in front of our house & we can still see the cable hanging between light pole (tiang), if fully underground, the light poles (tiang) just in front our house, it look more tidy & beautiful, whole residential area will look more ‘high standard’, however developer just partially underground to save cost in order want to maximise the profit.

As a victim of false information on the scope of supply, i take this as a serious breach of ethics. Even if it is perhaps ,an honest mistake by the company sales rep., Oriental Max is fully responsible for the error. All customers who were promised something that will not materilize deserve an official explaination and some form of compensation. I will be taking this up once the showhouse is made and launched. Hope the other purchasers do the same.

After reading you all complaints, i would say Orange Villa better than this project !

@allen
i fully support, update the info for further action & all purchasers hope to unite to bring up this issue (cabling underground) to developer.

@Lo
Okay…let’s work together !

@allen
Hi small allen, good ….. Orange Villa developerhave start response to purchaser after so many ugly event to the developer. Pls read Ov blog. I hope Oriental max do not choose to show attitude problem after you all complain they did not fulfill the promise.

booked my unit today
3 storrey semi-D… did alot of surveying before committing to this…
seems like the best bang for the buck la… for this price u get quite a decent deal…
but i was told by the sales agent today… cable… not even semi underground…
totally NOT underground at all…

abit put off by that, but i paid deposit anyway…
maybe all buyers can get together n suggest to developer…

Ok ok, we all need to cooperate Liao!!!! We wan fully underground!!!!

@seraph
why rush to pay deposit? there are many units left unsold for 3 storey semi-D, u have strong bargain advantage to urge developer to adopt cable underground. Anyway, I am too dissapointed about liars from the staff. There are no different partly or not partly underground, developer use ‘partly’ just try to comfort purchasers. If i knew this matter, i won’t pay deposit or book any unit here, i dislike unsincere developer, but now too late, still thinking wanna let go RM2k & cancel booking.

@Happy
have u called developer to voice out cable underground issue? so far what we can do is to call & complain.

@Carlos
when did u pay the 10k deposit?

I haven voice up yet, I think Wat we can do is dun wan to sign the s&p yet lo until they had their word.

@Happy
dear developer sing i loan aprrove alr and you not promise the cable under ground… and you also not provide auto gate point and washing machine point. i was desire to cancel the SNP with you.

oriental max are big lie ….. promise customer but wont do it…
dont open developer company …to lie people…..i wont sign the SNP

me too…. i also won’t sign the SNP

@seraph
i paid deposit 2 mths ago & already cancel booking, i will not comment on this forum again, good luck to all purchasers.

too many ‘cowboy’ developers, no difference from OV developer…

@Carlos
Wah…..u really sacrify ur 2k ah???? Keng!!!!

@Happy
I believe Carlos got his/her own reason to burn 2k. Just try to put ourselves in his/her shoes, whoever will feel cheated and feel unhappy with blank promise.

Wondering how is developer feel if let say we as a buyer only pay 80% of total price, while the remaining 20% is cancelled due to inflation and other unspecific reason.

Get some news that developer do changes on certain type of layout plan without informing buyer. So better make sure you double, triple and fourth check the SnP. If need too bring whole kampung people to look into SnP and let them become witness. Nowadays the developer just concern on PROFIT and SALES. No longer talk about QUALITY and RELIABILITY

@Happy
if i knew the news of cabling partly underground before signing SnP, I also let go RM2k, I won’t buy, I do not trust ’empty promise’ developer. Now i have no choice, just hope & pray developer deliver quality house as promised before, anyway, do not expect much anymore.

Hi, morning. I am one of the purchaser for carnation villa. However, I haven’t sign my SnP. It is due to when I want to sign SnP, I found out that the floor plan (1st floor) stated in SnP is different from the proposed floor plan in their leaflet. (the 2nd and 3rd room, as well as their attached bathrooms). I’m here just to remind every purchaser to look into this carefully before signing SnP to avoid any unwanted things happen later. Till now… I haven’t get any feed back on this issue…

@EeEr
u mean 2 storey terrace house? when i signed SnP, i did not notice any difference, i just aware developer only provide 2 heater points at bathroom, the bathroom at ground floor no heater point. The SnP also not mention height of ceiling, the staff only inform 12ft height.

@EeEr
the floor plan in the leaflet show the basin not in the bathroom, now developer change the plan i.e. put basin inside bathroom for 2nd & 3rd bedroom, therefore the floor plan slightly difference.

@Ovilla-My
agree what u say, as a result, I always wait until sample house to complete then make decision, I do not mind buy little bit expensive house (no cash rebate from developer).

@EeEr
Anything else missing from S&P when you compare with the leaflet? Please look carefully. If you found a luxury car in the leaflet, make sure it stated in your S&P as well.

@Lo
I don’t know if other lot experience the same. But the one I’m buying is 2-storey terrace corner lot. Yes, ceiling height does not mention, size of tile is not in too…

@MM Ow
The direction of the doors for room 2 and room 3 is different, the size of the room is different, the bathrooms are now much bigger and it seems to be almost same size with master room’s bathroom, (I wondering if anybody want to sleep inside : P). The proportion of the rooms and bathrooms just a bit weird….

@Chuah
Joker Chuah, I’m sorry to say that the one I’m mentioning here is the structure of the house, the build up plan. If it is a mistake to see what is missing in the basic structure in SnP, then hopefully in the future you won’t get a house with missing 1 room or wall… If whatever you mention is right, then please make sure when you sigh your SnP, all the furniture is in…

@EeEr
ya, basin move inside the bathroom need more space, therefore bathroom is bigger. I have no idea about the doors’ direction, pls ask developer about this & share info with us here, thanks.

Omg……y so many changes????? Gosh…….really need to read carefully b4 sign s&p loh!!!!!
If Can , we all cooperate not to sign it now. Sign after sample house ready!

how to sign later?
i thought 2 weeks after pay downpayment must sign SnP redi

i hear developer will implement auto gate point and washing machine water point. hope they really can do it.

Simeh? So nice boh? I dun think so lo……

@Happy
developer can say anything they like with purpose to sell the house, and also change the plan they like to maximise profit, i just trust in black & white, regarding auto gate point & washing machine point, developer does not mention in SnP, probably another ‘liar’ from developer, sick.

Anybody use other lawyer for loan agreement? I m worried may chan will side developer for loan agreement, make us pay even if the project not completed on time? ( touch wood)

Ya lor…..can we change other lawyer boh?

@Happy
sure can, purchaser just spend few thousand for SnP, developer not provide free SnP if not choosing their panel lawyer i.e SnP & Loan agreement must be same lawyer.

@wonder
if the project got problem, whatever lawyer we choose also cannot help, only developer itself can help. I know all the documentation are standardise by Bank Negara & can be downloaded from internet, for me, I will not waste money to appoint own lawyer unless very cheap or developer not provide free SnP.

What is the cheapest rate now for loan offered to carnation villa ? Any recommendation ?

@miko
The additional points are merely a proposal that is in consideration, according to the developer. Even if implemented, it is hardly a dent in compensation for the brazen BS given to purchasers about the cabling. If anyone visits the BM Permai site and observes how “external” cables really look, and mess up the enviroment, we will know why it is so important to customers.

@allen
i agree u say so….

@allen
i knew some buyers cancel 3 storey semi-D due to cabling issue…

the land just do land fill only.the house will crack.just visit the taman opposite this project will know it,taman bukit minyak indah.

@powerfoo
why do u say it will crack?
i mean, what are the measures that should have taken for it not to crack?

Seraph, land with landfill needs time to settle and compact before construction commenses, or else, there will be earth consolidation/compaction occuring after the building is built, therby causing cracks to the structure above. With Terrace houses, where ground beams are connected, these land settlements can be a big headache to owners. The developer must ensure the landfill is compacted to the correct building codes and pressures before building.

ALL the ORIENTAL MAX staff like to pass u here and there! i do purposely take one day leave off to go to their office too! TO LOOK at the piping contractor to fix all the piping and drainage of my house which i already complain to the office a month ago!! can u imagine, how effective the staff handle issues?! ONE MONTH++! somemore, they always ask u to call the contractor by urself… tat make me “beh ta han”!

now come to leakage roof problem.. sh*t man! the site supervisor (so called AH BENG)… ask me to call the contractor incharge and make apointment with him to come n fix the floor wor…no need work meh! and wats the site supervisor salary pay for?! the WORST part is…he know where the leakage (got fresh spot) is, he ask his worker to paint it off so cant see and told me no spot.. wat kind of ppl is tat!? “jin jia BEH TAHAN”..

Project Name: Taman Merbau Indah Fasa 2b

another friend of mine bought from the same developer and his comment as below:

my case is when I want to get my key, they said I need to pay for 3k (or 5k) as penalty of my bank pay the money to them late. the bank is their panel bank. when i asked again, they said this is normal and they can give 50% discount. i insist i dun wan to pay and want to find out why bank pay the money late. so i call to my bank and ask. finally i found out that after i sign the S&P, the bank received some doc from the developer (maju jayamas, child company of Oriental Max (OM)), then there is some document is missing. so bank replied and asked for the proper document, then OM send the doc late. once bank got the proper doc, they pay the money, but already late. so i take all the evidence to the office to argue with the staff, why i have to pay when you, yourselves cause the late payment. then the staff ask me to talk to their manager. so i make appointment and i purposely take leave to go meet their manager, waited for almost 1 hour and its my turn to meet the manager. i hand over all the evidence. then the manager said, ok, i will review the doc and u can go back and wait for call. Shit! if just pass the doc, why the staff cannot pass and need me to purposely take leave to pass to the stupid, useless manager? anyway, at last they waive all the penalty. luckily i insist to find out. i am sure they must earn quite a lot from this kind of situation.

@jack
all developer are trying do suck as much money as possible, when buyer side delay payment(no matter due to buyer delay or developer problem) they will direct charge 10% interest in the receipt, when developer late to deliver house, they just diam diam forget about the interest that need to pay buyer. somemore will only pay when they receive lawyer letter. i heard some cases whereby developer late to deliver house, developer will negotiate with buyer to adjust the interest from 10% to 8% or 6%.

i think the oriental max boss will review these comment to improved their company imaged.
if not really OMG.

Omg…..so many bad comment abt oriental max!!!!! Zzz…….

COPY from lost Bukit Minyak is the land soil. It is swampy land and many houses especially car porch are sinking

my house taman bukit minyak indah happening this kind of problem.car porch sinking seriously.

anyone has the OM e-mail contact??? The higher up bosses e-mails are what i need.

@allen
why send email? if got any feedback, just call the boss at the office, big boss may not have time or interest to read emails.

@powerfoo
OM knew the land soil matter & they know how to settle the problem. Building poor quality house may damage good reputation of the company image, developer won’t take the risk.

@MM Ow
I rather have my correspondenses in black and white. If there is no responce, then , i can always escalate it further.

@allen
OMax does not have official website & also consider as low profile developer (no participate road show, seldom advertise in newspaper about new project(s)), therefore i think ‘big boss’ consider as “computer idiot”, only staffs master it. What kind of issue u wanna bring up to developer? mind to share a bit here?

OMax and TahWah all can be classified under ‘cowboy’ developer….dont trust what they say…until you see the product….then only buy

the point is the cable not under ground will spoil the taman view ….very bad

OM just spen some money do cable under ground and will bring up their imaged for the next project easy to sold out.

if you make customer lost confident …. you are no future…. whatever you build nobody want buy….

@MM Ow
1.A written explination from OM on the deviation on the scope of supply commited to verbally by their company representatives, and subsequently what they are going to do about it.
2.A technical explaination on how the land clearing was done [did they remove the topsoil after cutting down the oil palm], and how is the landfill being done in regard to land compacting standards to ensure, nothing rots below the landfill and causes the buildings to crack some years from now.
3. Is there steel reinforcement on the driveway to ensure a strong , crack and sink free driveway.
4.What is the height of the ceiling. [i no longer trust their verbal statements]
5.Are the drains covered.

that’s why you call them ‘cowboy’, dont listen to customer…

@allen
agree with your statement

hi all,

cowboy ask me go sign S&P…..how about your?

@wuwu
If you are going, pls make a copy of this site and it’s comments and pass it to the developer, since the cowboys are so internet illeterate. Hopefully they understand English.

ever go to the office at bukit minyak, the staff there dont know are too fresh to the company or what, asking them a simple question, how wide is the house, the staff also unable to answer and have to ask another staff to give me the answer. asking how much this unit, the staff serve me have to ask refer his paper. or probably he is doing weekend part time job.

@wuwu
I sign SnP in June, till now, developer not return a copy to me, call the office to enquire, Marketing Dept reply that SnP not stamping yet. Poor management !

any idea when can get OC? any units still available?

@newkid
Long way more for that. Purchasers are just begining to sign their S&Ps, and this is a G&G, Strata title project. OC is legally within 3 years from now.

tq allen…

i went to the site yesterday, the landfill height is the same as technical school beside. The developer change the plan to build the 3 storey Semi-D sample house instead 2 storey terrace house, 2 semi-D sample house will be ready year end, in time to promote poor sales of semi-D during CNY 2013.

Any idea where the location of electricity meter in the house area? Is outside near the gate?

@ME
based on developer told me the electricity meter at near the gate. because they do semi under ground for the electricity in the house.

@tony
Thanks for your info.
Can we booking first, and sign the S&P after see the sample house?

Just now ronda to BM Permai, the tiang tiang really spoil the image. Hopefully with the semi under ground the wire and tiang tiang not so many.

@JJ
i just went to Residensi Merbok (asas dunia developer) the whole park wirecable under ground and the green land is nice environment…..

if carnation villa can do full under ground wire cable we very appreciate….

i just went to Residensi Merbok (asas dunia developer) the whole park wirecable under ground and the green land is nice environment…..

if carnation villa can do full under ground wire cable we very appreciate….

@ME

you can book first and take 3 month to do your bank loan after loan approved you can sign S&P

say gated & guarded building color cannot change but your central way 2 sample hose color like gamnam style…

don’t paint the carnation villa building like gamnam style…

What is the loan package you guys get? any recommendation?

@tony

super kampung style or opah KL style??

@merdeka
yellow and grey color tak boleh tahan…

look like kanna sai…

Actually, I made surveyed before and read thru ALL the comments / Property Talk for more than 60 over projects in Penang Island as well as Penang Mainland..

I fully agreed with those leave comment like : ALL developers are the same , before you sign S&P, they treat you like GOD, after you signed S&P, they treat you like DOG

BUT, I would like to says, among all developers in Penang State. Oriental Max is the WORST developer , WHY I say that ? Let me explain in more detail..

1) Their Marketing People, before you buy / pay booking fees, they treat you like their GRANDFATHER, AFTER you pay $$, you want to change any plot (before signing any agreenment), they are your GRANDFATHER ( The way they talk VERY… VERY RUDE, I can’t describe .. NOT Professional at all , especially their Sales Manager , Jennie Lee )

2) If Oriental Max are profesional, WHY always compare with others developers ?
( Can OM compare with IJM ? Tambun Indah ? AirMas Group ? ) of course NOT.. BUT, they insist want to compare prices with others.. ( If we take an example : Quality, is already enough to say OM is far far away LOW / NO Quality at all. what else want to compare ?

3) My 2 relatives , both bought their projects..
i) Carnation Villa – When my relative pay the booking fee, the brouchur provided by OM shows one type, when he go to sign S&P, luckily he discover / found the floor plan totally difference with the brouchur, he refuse to sign and quikily go back to check again the brochur, IS TOTALLY DIFFERENCE.. OH SHIT….
He called to OM office to find what’s going on, NO BODY can answer.. ( NO BODY INFORM US / NO BLACK & WHITE about the changes ) so DISSAPPOINTED with Oriental Max

4) During their lauching, I joined my relative went to their Sg Dua Sales Office, for this Central Way 2 project, when we entered their office, their Sales Person explain to us the projects, SUDDENLY their Sales Manager – Jennie Lee Bee Lay ( I know her name because she gave us her name card ) shout her staff CHANGE PRICE LIST at the Sales Board, we ask her why no more rebate ?? She answer : Rebate is ONLY for first 50 purchasers, BUT, I counted 3 to 4 times and very CONFIRMED the sales board ONLY have 46 “SOLD stickers”, come on.. Oriental Max.. If want to cheat, this is NOT THE CORRECT WAY, we are not the small kids..

5) About Change name issue, may be just like one of their earliar project – Taman Pasir Ris ( Now Change to Taman Pasir Indah ), they change this project also without reason.

6) The last point I can share is : THE WORST I believe, Material they shows in their show house ( Italy Brand ) and the material used is from TAIWAN.
NO QUALITY, CHEAP PRICE MATERAIL and even colour also far far difference.. So dissappointed..

7) Another issue is, my relative bought a unit at Carnation Villa – Link House, he pay first 10% by early this year, he check with lawyer and signed S&P in almost that period, but when he ask for STAMPED S&P, he called to OM office middle August, Mr Beetor told him STAMPED S&P ONLY ready after their director (Mr Ch;ng ) back from overseas after 30th August,
BUT, THIS IS NOT TRUE, WE PURPOSELY CALLED TO CHECK DURING THAT PERIOD, MR CH’NG NOT AT OVERSEAS AND ALL THE WHILE IN OFFICE (SG DUA OFFICE ) His Car In & Out every day in his office, WHY OM want to tell lie ? Please explain ..

HOPE ALL BUYERS / PROPERTY INVESTOR BE MORE CAREFUL..

AND TO GET BACK THE REFUND AS FAST AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY FACING FINANCE DIFFICULTY, THEY COLLECT $$ TO COVER THOSE IN PROGRESS PROJECTS , LIKE CENTRAL WAY 1, AND DELAY THOSE UNSTARTED PROJECTS

@Gary
I more interested point #3. Can u pls share more details? Which area difference?

the SnP does not show full details of house, i.e. the measurement not stated length & width of the car porch & backyard, many details not mention in details, as a result, many house buyers refuse to sign, for those haven’t signed the SnP, i urge everyone read carefully of SnP before signing.

@Gary Chan
Really agree and very appreciated so much for ur precious experience and sharing here. Thanks!!!! We all really facing the same problem when we were called to sign the S&P, but Wat can we do? They seem like Indian and duno how to listen to Chinese. We told them tat s&p not shown the measurement for car pouch and backyard d, but they still dun wan write in there. But still dare to keep chasing us fast fast go to sign. If not, they will forfeit our deposit le!!!!! So pls assist Wat can all of us cooperate to do for the next step. Thanks.

I am looking to purchase an affordable house for my family’s immediate and future needs.
Scouting around the BW and surrounding areas and perusing through the comments here, it made me wonder whether our property market are not governed and lawless as some of us made it to be.

1. We keep on harping that the specs stated in the S&P differs from those offered during pre-signing S&P or as stated in Brochure etc…..Since i am going to made a life long purchase ( for me anyway )…i will definitely made sure that the specs are in orders before paying any deposit & signing the S&P. Then any departure from these stated specs give us solid ground for further action.
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2. We have this tendency to state that this developer is bad or that developer is good…case in point OM vs Tambun Indah or Airmas…
Firstly let me state clearly i am no apologist for any developer..
But if actual prices comparision were made between properties of these developers, you will find prices difference amounting to 20-25%. And of course the more pricey one giving u better finishings… however are we so sure that the end products by the so called good developers have no defect or specs variations. U would be in for a surprised!.
My point here is all developers tend to promote their projects best selling points and it is up to us the purchasers to query.. until we are satisfied to go forward with our purchase.

Lastly a lot of personal grouses are being aired in this forum and some with names calling too. I believe the moderator of this forum would agreed that this is unhealthy…Direct your concerns to the developer until your grievances are attended to…Names calling will not solved yr problem.

@Gary Chan
how did you know the material used is from taiwan? is it stated in Spec?
regarding the plot changing matter,their sales person did mention to us we could change our plot before signing snp….my friend bought one of their project last month which is central way 2 and he successfully changed his plot number to another one….

@Gary Chan

@Happy
i will submit the issue of floor plan measurement matter to Kementerian Perumahan….any purchaser(s) found being cheated or feel something wrong in agreement, we should submit the case to govt authority, feel ‘tire’ to talk to cowboy developer.

@Lo
Thanks,Lo……!!!!!

I’m Just booking a double storey link house by today. Actually Before im place booking, i been read thru the comment here and im also question all this issue to the OMG sales person and they answer me all the question im asking, personally im feel comfortable with their answer and explaination. From their explaination, i notice an important fact that OMG is a developer which is well establish in mainland, and their sales person hits me a point that if we are developer decribe just like all the comment here, why our project can easily sold out with less advertisment, not because of our price are reasonable, the most important is our quality are there. Because of this statement i decide to placed the booking…

@Peace
OMG = Oh My God