Orange Villa – Bukit Mertajam
Orange Villa is a gated and guarded development, a prime residential enclave beckons with its 124 units of terraces, 16 semi-detached and two bungalows. This housing scheme is located just off the ever bustling Jalan Song Ban Kheng, Bukit Mertajam. Within walking distance to schools and other public amenities, and a mere minute drives to Auto City and Penang Bridge.
Residents also have the assurance of peace of mind with the round the clock security besides reveling in clubhouse facilities such as swimming and wading pools, gymnasium, sauna, exercise corner, BBQ area, meeting room, jogging path and Jacuzzi.
3-storey Terrace
- Width: 22 feets
- Built-up Area: 3,770 sq.ft. onwards
- No. of Rooms: 5+1
- Roof Top Garden
- Indicative Price: RM 548,800 onwards
3-storey Semi-Detached
- Built-up Area: 3,915 sq.ft.
- No. of Rooms: 5+1
- Roof Top Garden
- Indicative Price: RM 693,800 onwards
Project Name: Orange Villa
Location : Bukit Mertajam, Penang
Property Type : 3-Storey Terrace & Semi-Detached
Other Phases: Orange Villa 2
Developer : Tah Wah Land
Contributed by @AhTu (17/2/2012)
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Contributed by @Orange Juice (26/3/2012)
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what wrong to be near with the chicken? Tambun bungalows also near chicken farm and yet so many millionaires bought the bungalow. Maybe near to these type of farm will bring you more luck. Not like OV, behind BM court and also behind a school. People who believe fengshui will not by OV house …
RM1.3 million to buy a Terrace corner house. The developer must be joking – better go buy semi-detached or bungalows house.
@Alice
I like your comments on ‘chicken can bring more luck’
That was so true. Don’t think chicken poultry wil cause prob. Its clean n smelless. Btw,Alma is a highly develop town which will turn to a new commercial centre soon n its near to 2nd link. Most of the chicken farm will also b bought up for development la… Most important is convenience when u stay in a place. I believe Permatang Sanctuary will b a beautiful n well plan project. OV location is too cramp. Btw,nt that convinience actually. Look ahead in future what will happen in that area instead of jz thinking for now. coz v will stay that area for at least 20-30 yrs or more right.
visited the showroom yesterday.
glad to see some minor feedback to Cheong was taken and improvement was done( plug location, shower head position).
TW, keep the good work roll ..
Have they chg the staircase railing? Hanging for so long d. Cheap cake quality.
Hi all, any good news from the developer? Any reply after the Purchaser Club submit the feedback letter? Have they chg the staircase holder? I am still waiting for all the answer before i buy it. TQ.
No news yet. You better dont buy this project. The developer is really sombong and no reply to the club member yet. What a ‘lancy’ player.
Haha! Apparently, Alice is the IJM sales staff. Keep promoting Permatang Santuary…
Chicken Farm brings good luck..Sigh!
@Alice
Alice, you must be Lillian Too’s sister. Chicken farm brings good luck?! Bwahahaha!
There are at least 8 chicken farms between BM and Jawi. Then anyone complaining about chicken farms should not be staying anywhere in the vicinity. Better look for Penang Island property. Also pray hard that these creatures also don’t thumb a lift from the thousand cars that ply the bridge everyday, multiply by 2 when the 2nd bridge is ready.
today is the last day for tahwah AND Hong to reply the purchaser group requisition,
i hope the take the consideration wisely and feedback on time.
else, things might get ugly.
To all FYI, the letter was sent on 24-May-12. the deadline to Tahwah is today 30-May-12.
Again, we hope they took the consideration wisely
TW has confirmed to change hand railing, but not other thing else….
How can they build GnG like that? Are they say them self as high end and good 1st project. we cannot sit on this. let us go to their sale office and take to them. or else, get refund. or else get lawyer to talk to them. or go and post all this bad comment to entire Penang and FIZ or Bm/Bw all our friend.
We should go and see how is their facilities plan. is the gym and swiming pool look class? have the trapizium shape? i would suggest buyer go and pressure on them.
The problem is we are on their ‘chopper board’ already. We have had signed the snp, what else we can do? as long as they follow the details in the agreement, they are safe. Refund? We as a buyer still suffer the loss. No matter what, TW is still in the winning ends, eventually.
you guys already signed the SnP already…TW wont be refunding you guys. Did you noticed that there’s a fine print behind the project brochure stating that all the drawings are artist impressions only and subject to developer discretion? TW have the rights to make any amendments as long as all the specs matches the SnP details. SnP did not stated the design of the swimming pool and qty of the facilities ( e.g gym equips and etc). Sad to say that in M’sia, buyers ALWAYS at the loosing end. Before booking…all flowerly promises, after paid booking and sign….they change this and that… Meaning….during tender, all specs are top end…but during construction, all cut here and there…the Main Contractor earn all, but the developer lost money…FYI, in a housing project, there are always a developer and a main con. Pity the developer share holder…$$$ being siphon off their profits…well…in the end..the shareholder still earn….
Permatang Sactuary will be good location to stay after 2-3years. Good to invest there now. You will see the return in future. Chicken farm owner also want to earn more money by selling their land and setup another bigger farm in somewhere else.
TL, go back to yr own developer forum to sell yr houses… Crossing over to others is not professional ..
Forum is free for use… Today, Orange villa still put on advertisement in news paper. wonder who is letting up the units… You own the house or the forum…this is the hottest forum with a lots of comments… Good to do selling here…. Hahahah..
TL, pls go back to Pematang Sanctury, that is the place that full of smell-less air with full of bacteria, virus. I would by OVilla.
If want to buy orange villa or pematang sanctury better buy completed project like palm villas g&g good location near to raja uda…….
@Success
I don’t see the point here. Can tell the reason?
Palm Villa will be 2nd best after Orange Villa, go look at the surrounding area for Orange Villa. So near to Autocity, Jaya Jusco Prai and Perda. JitSin School and Federal Highway.
Since developer did not plan to meet the purchaser club, which mean developer did not commit to improve the GnG quality request and improvement. What should the purchase do? To all other buyer or potential buyer, pls do not buy Orange Villa as
1) Developer refuse to meet the Purchaser Club and improvement.
2) Show house design is weak and will cos buyer must need to install awning and make the house look ugly.
3) No fiber optic line (no UNIFY ready)
4) No basic plaster ceiling
5) Lousy staircase hand railing (only empty promise but till not no chg)
6) Their 2nd Orange Residence project at Raja-Uda got problem and may cos them drain of cash. Can they still complete Orange Villa. Another abondant project at BM?
7) Road from Jalan Betik to Orange Villa too narrow, less then 30 feet, sure traffic jam if have car parking at road side.
8) Purchaser felt being cheated as before sign SnP, sale person say, this is 1st Tah Wah project sure will make it very good one. But when after sign SnP and open of show house, purchaser angry and feedback, and developer refuse to meet them.
9) Their company is ‘Perfect Living for Generations’ but from the show house, purchaser felt cheated and angry. Infact, very angry.
What to do:
Those potential buyer and house shopper, pls do not buy Orange Villa until they physically change the house staircase railing to a better quality or nicer one.
I mean the un-renovated show house (actual one). Altho they promise to chg, buy we worry they will just simply weld another lousy steal rod onto current lousy railing, then tell you all, we are done and now the railing is more safe. Hahahaha ………..
Lesson learn:
We will not buy new player project or no-name developer for my future house.
Who know, this may be thier 1st and last project?
Or May be their first project and un-completed project?
TahWah, need to show to all purchaser and shopper.
We should call all purchaser and group up on their week show house opening day or go to their sale office, call along paper writer, and ask to meed TahWah boss. I also feld cheated. Pls don’t buy the Orange Villa.
I was not angry but after read this, yes, we felt cheated. Now what TahWah boss say? Why still not change the rail after promise for so long? Continue to cheat people? or really run out of money? Huh, tahwah boss?
I have tell you all much earlier laaaa ……. now only u realise Orange Villa is a scam. Haha.
RM500K-600K buy a RM200K-300K house of quality …… angry also no use.
Palm Villas is the first project G&G swimming pool with rooftop located near Raja Uda and the best of all in mainland compare to other.near to ferry terminal, Penang bridge and also heard that under tunnel going to built in Bagan Ajam through Gurney….
All depend on TahWah, are they selling good GnG or lousy GnG ……. so far their attitude is very poor. Attitude will determine a person success or a business company achievement. I think TahWah is not doing a good job, how can they allow blogger here shoot them like nobody business? Unless they really no-capital to fulfill now a day purchaser who have higher expectation. Pity-full TahWah and Mr Hong.
I am considering to stop paying my 2nd 10% before allow the bank to release the following payment. The 1st 10% that i already pay, amount ~RM55K, i will try to ask my lawyer to talk to TahWah to get back the money. Loss a bit also never mind. Too bad and no motivation to continue with this lousy developer already.
Better pull handbreak first before fall into a big hole.
i think orange villa is the worse project in Bm of GnG, they are over price already. And yet deliver badly. Worse part is no commitment to improve and treat buyer as ‘meat on choping board’. From thier board of director until sale person and site worker, all have attitude problem, refuse to listen to purchase and ignore them. i plan to let go my unit and hope not to suffer lost. RM568K, intermidiate unit, any one interest?
@lost
pity you..500K++ price is semi d prices in mainland…intermediate terrace house is not worth that much..
respectable local and yet not public listed developers…airmas, metrio development, you gonna respect them as they delivered better quality houses than other local players…some even better than public listed company like tambun indah…but tambun indah now improved already….
OK. this forum is getting crazy.
actually you guys are reacting over the top. Look at your SNP clearly, does Tah Wah do anything wrong?
How many ppl in this forum is really buyers?
and, how many developers are willing to meet buyers and take their inputs? Pls don’t be so naive.
@Oranger
agree with u. Anyway, about 10 units left, sales quite good & consider successful.
Oranger, guess u are developer staff. You company attitude is very bad. Are you really selling good GnG? or actually you are creating problem for future management team? Listen to purchaser.
We can understood how disappointed those purchaser.
@VeryDisappointed
May I know what’s the problem TW have with the Raja Uda Orange Residence? Last year was told that the registrants of this project is already more than 400… I anticipate that it will sell very well if launched, even though with developer’s “bad reputation” with Orange Villa.
@Oranger
We are the buyers who placed the booking before seeing any showhouse and the details of the specs. It was our faults just to listen and believe the sweet talks of sales person and the manager. They did promised me , as some of the buyers out there, that they would never compromise the quality as this is their first project. But the fact now (after seeing the show house) I felt cheated as the house is not worth for this money (RM568k). The outlook is fine but the interior is too bad in term of workmanship and the quality. sigh…… I AM BEING CHEATED………
@mm
Being cheated or not, bad or good quality on workmanship and materials given, you will only know it when the time you get the house key. It is too early to comment on that parts now.
Yes…..wait for the house to complete with OC.
now days Rm500++ where can get good quality on workmanship and materials……
@Zipp
Jesselton Hills
@Zipp
got ….at hulu places.
may be the lands there is cheaper than OV ……so can get good quality .
@Chuah
Jesselton Hills project very near to the chicken hill. give good quality also cannot stay there la…..
Fully agreed with this comment, felt cheated.
We should do this, when Orange Residence and Orange Avenue start in this blog, we should fllor our comment in their web site. We should also copy all those bad comment or Orange Villa, and paste into all other near by projects. We should make it ugly for TahWah and Mr Hong
Wahlauehhh, Mr Hong must felf shameful d.
AhTu……where are you….?
did you read VeryDisappointed said in No:6) Their 2nd Orange Residence project at Raja-Uda got problem and may cos them drain of cash. Can they still complete Orange Villa. Another abondant project at BM? it is true or not…..?
Who is AhTu? Is he developer person in this blog?
He is one of OV buyer……
This is the first time I heard buying house untill need to see MD or CEO. When we buy IJm, MahSing, Tambun indah, IOI, PJD, do we ever request to see their MD or CEO ? No right? This bunch of orange buyer really number 1, their 500k must be trade in pound or usd lo
No, we are leading team who do something good for all purchaser ….. look at their long list, good and should pursue.
Should push them for improvement, fully agree.
Other project buyer should do the same.
@Badman Y not u all go buy a piece of land and build the piece of houses u all dream of rather than here act like headless angry bird shouting for tan wah while still paying the balance payment, cry chicken cry duck hehe
Yes….. correct….
halo V@gmal.my, long time we no talks in this blog liao lor..haha…i seldom come to this blog liao cause i really sian to read the sabotager eh comment on my future house lor…waste my time nia laa to read n then correct those sabotagers eh comment lor…..hehe..but i would like to share with u since u r a little bit concerns on whether it can be completed bo lor…
FYI – i just went to the orange vila eh site during lunch time lor to c the progress of my future house lor….the progress of the site looks veli veli good la…dun woli laa…i saw some of the houses at the back rows there filled up with brick wall liao…2, 3 houses already built till roof top liao, some in the 1st floor liao n some still in 2nd floors, some in 3rd floors…but the houses near to swimming pool ones mostly still in the building up the house eh foundation nia lor…haha…
i did saw lot of workers works there n lot of lori drive in n drive out to bring steels, bricks, simen……. really good progress la…so i think no nid to worry the question on this project can complete on time or not laaa….if u hv time to visit the site, then u will sure agree with me laa….hahaha…
Keep on crying and guess what? This project going to be sold out no matter how many angry birds out there. Now is developer trend
Hi everyone, I can see a lot of people is very frustrated with the outcome so far.
Every property buyer have their own point of view, however please do not involve your personal feeling to influence others decision, there are always pros&con in all properties in the market.
You may complaint to the developer directly if you are a genuine buyer. If you feel cheated/ or the developer under deliver, you may bring your lawyer or even complaint to the government body.
My advise to all the wise property buyer in the market who is considering this project, don`t mislead by any comment/anyone. Go to check out yourself directly will be a wiser choice.
I`m neither siding the developer nor buyer, i have seen alot of property agent/ developer/ some marketing ppl using a lot of tactics to market their products.
Have you ever thought that some comments might be purposely created by different party to mislead the ppl?
Just my 2 cents
I fully agree with ur comment lor…..haha…
i told myself never to comment on this website again but now beh tahan with all the sabotagers’ comments, my advise is still seeing is believing. go see for yourself weigh the pros and cons, you cant have the best of everything. i’m still happy that i bought a unit, no regret, cant wait for its completion, just worried that i have to stay with demanding ppl in the same community
AhTu, we know u are developer spoken person here. Sure u talk for them. Zero value your input here. Do you know u the semi-D have a big problem? If you want to know more, pls join the club.
Yes … we should need to unite to face TahWah until they launch Other project, we will post in there also.
willing buy willing sell market, you guys really act like a clown for slapping your own face. if don’t like the project just withdraw your bloody deposit and move on, why need to begging, crying, complaint, cursing, regretting bla bla bla. i believe this project won’t collapes just because of you bunch of jokers withdraw out, pass the opportunity to other who appreciate it. hear me ?
I felt the same as well after seeing the show house. … no worth the money…
Those who have not bought but thinking of buying….DONT BUY….GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF….
PARIAH QUALITY…
Shame on the developer…..
@cheated So? Let me help judge Bao to slap u wake up, come come hehe
It so funny reading the comments here.
It’s hilarious to see so many people complaining about the staircase hand rail and having such a reaction & emotion due to this, hmm…. what issue? Oh ya, the bad “hand rail”. LOL.
To those who are so emotionally affected by the “bad hand rail”, come on.. If developer is not willing to change it, you can simply upgrade it by yourself. After all, it won’t cost you a fortune to change it yourself.
If those whiners are the real OV buyer, then to those non-whiners real buyers out there, GOOD LUCK to you all. I really can’t imagine being neighbor of such type of people.
@shawn
if you see the writting style, it’s actually 1 or 2 person complaining only and using so many names to support themselves….they add oil, add salt, add fire.
@pomelo
Ya, I guessed so, because it really didn’t make any sense. They even commented that they would consider to forgo the 10% down payment due to the unhappiness over the, hmm…, “bad hand rail” issue. LOL.
Last time I checked, the cost of upgrading staircase hand rail is still much much much cheaper than forgoing the 10% down payment.
AhTu… glad to hear from you ……next week I will visit the site, T.Q……….hehe
Forgo 10% D/P?OMG,OV buyers are damn rich!
Those potential buyer, pls read this befoe you buy any TahWah project.
it’s nothing wrong with the staircase handrail, if my family don’t like it I will change other design or add some flower pattern to look more beautiful as I like.
if the wall, title,door,basin so n so crack or water leaking can complain to the developer when house is completed with OC. it’s my thinking only…… don’t know rite or wrong…?
Sold out sold out!
Do u know a big cost if u chg the hand rail. Until now developer have not tell what stupid design they will chg.
Spiderman = 失败的man. Any design also got people like and people dont like. Very tough decision to make ler. better rebate cash…
@Crazy dog
it’s truth all sold out? plan to visit the showhouse this weekend, wanna buy a house in BM.
@Jude U can ask those don’t like the hand rail to transfer the booking to u if not pls choose other project as it is very bad luck to stay with this kind of 失败的man as neighbour lo, sui forever lo
I heard the show house is stil opened for visit this weekend, but only few units left…u should check with the developer…
Until today, developer still not changing the rail yet. What happen? Promise d but no action. Going to cheat again? The longer they drag, the angry purchasers.
see, I have been asking about unifi before i sign the agreement, the sales promised but no action taken! really disappointed…
kinda feel cheated by the developer
sold out? see can still newspaper ads say selling leh..
Genuine Buyers of OV pls directly deal with the OV management personnel… they response friendly to my request and promise to make improvements of their project for certain “reasonable” complaints from the buyers. Frankly speaking, RM500k houses in strategic location I also not ecpect to cover everything, but basic quality is a must. I agree with certain comments in this property talk but some of them to me are nothing more than just to sabotage…
Really they promise to you? they promise to me too.
Really a very bad player ……
i can see the OV buyers sabotaging the project, so sad…just because the developer didnt accede to their request, they will use this website to threaten the developer, giving them the deadline to reply or else things will turn ugly, they will say that the developer promised this and that but didnt comply and felt cheated. this is just the beggining of the project, only 2 houses completed already they have created so much problem.
cant imagine what is going to happen when the project is completed, hope these sabotager will not be the JMC committee or else whoever residents that do not agree to their proposal will be stalked i guess, everything must follow their request….pls do not speak for the whole community, we still have our own planning and preferences.
you all keep saying that the developer is stubborn but let’s see who is stubborn here
@grandfather
i have friends who shun away from this project, not because of anything but the future neighbours. they are so petty and keep harping on the same issue and harrassing the developer…..you are right grandfather, maybe if we dont agree to their proposal in future, we will be stalked and harrassed.
i 100% agree with Judge Bao’s comment and i thought his slap can shake up the sabotager but it didnt work.
a good g&g project depends very much on the cooperation amongst its residents but with stubborn and petty residents i doubt we can live harmoniously like palm villas so orange villa will never be number 1.
if you are genuine buyers and not sabotagers, let’s wait for its completion and dont harp on petty issue. the developer already promised to improve on the staircase i’m sure they would keep to their promise and i got the assurance from their sales person. this is their first project, reputation is very important to them, let them complete the project to judge their quality, it’s too early to tell. dont forget that the developer has not handed over the house. never antagonise with the developer, it will do us no good….just my 2 cents
@pomelo
I fully agreed with ur comment lor… I believe tah wah oso want to do the best for thier project la.. i saw some buyers may b 2-3 buyers nia lor with diff nicknames came to this blog n try to give negative comments to this project, really dunno wat thier intention too lor..sometimes i’m doubt those giving negative comments bloger claimed that they r real buyer but they starting to sabotag this project lor..hehe i read their comments n i think they r more toward a sabotager than a genuine buyer lor..haha….hehe…u all think think kua la…where got genuine buyer hantam ka ki eh property 1 lor..if really got, then those buyers really behave like budak budak lor, they thought oni them buying house in this project lor…they r not thinking on most of the genuine buyers eh feeling lor when they came to here n hantam this project plus developer in this blog la…..As a genuine buyer, we should build a win-win relationship with developer la n not the lose-lose relationship lor…if u r trying to make developer scare of u by hantam them in this blog, it won’t help most of the buyers but u r just making the things lagi worst lor because u r trying to build lose-lose relationship with developer now…..hehe…as i said, always think rational lor when u actions..pls not just think on urself nia la…..hehe…i may b kena hantam by those angry birds again lor..but is ok laa….i m not side developer nor buyers la…i just comment to whatever i think it is right !….hehe…
@ Ah Tu
i really beh tahan otherwise i also dont want to waste my time giving my comment here. but i really respect you Ah Tu knowing that you will soon kena tembak and yet you still give your comment. i bet you this time not only you, they will say that i’m from the developer side too….this is what we call stubborn lor, everyone must follow and agree with their style or else you are the opposition.
i really beh syiok you know with their attitude. i’m sure the developer knows what they are doing to be standing so firm. Dato’ Hong’s company may be new but he has been in development for many years, you can read about him in their website, guang ming interviewed him before.
if it’s not because this Orange Villa project is good and worth buying, with all the sabotages in this forum i think the project will go bust by now. for those who wants to buy pls go to the show house and do your own survey….dont be influenced by the sabotager
AhTu, Pomelo, grandfather …………… all are developer guys. The people not even dare to show out in the Purchaser Club. They keep on asking other to trust them, trust developer with empty integrity. The most they talk, the most heat will be build in the forum. All people in the club are know eash other, just not this 3 phantom fellow! I will keep on recap good message in above forum.
Above is the best complainant to developer. Pls go thru before you decide to buy. Pls ensure thing that you asking dveloper to make, state clear in the SnP. We are waiting developer to response with another letter to them. If still not response, we may visit to Mr Hong office in group. Dateline is mid of this month. If any journalist here, pls stand by, we will show you new era of house buyer, how we liase with bad and irresponsible developer.
aiyo..really behave like kids la….think rational n act rational la….hehe….may god blass u….good luck !!! hehe..
Ya lo. Why not every member from the purchaser club dump in another 100K and pass the cash to the developer. I think by doing this, the developer sure will listen to you all and change everything for you.
Hi BPFoong, Developer pay so much advertisment fee to media. Do you think the journalist will listen to you or the journalist?
@CYX
Ya lo. BPFoong, why make it susah susah. If you feel cheated by the developer, just cancel the house la.
hello BPFoong,
there are many buyer still trust the developer. if you felt cheated or cannot trust the developer any more, do you want to let go your unit in original price….. is your unit is facing type A ? my friend’s is interested want to buy.
You all CYX, AhTu, Chuah and Mr Yes, you all sound like a same person. Where got purchaser talk so much for the developer one. You all should join the effort to push the developer.
Personally, we should try to do all the best to get maximum value for evey single penny that you all paid to TahWah. Those, developer proxy in this site, pls join the effort. If you not join, just stay as observer and let other do the job for you.
Good to see purhcaser have good courage to confront developer to avoid become meat on chopping board of the developer. Let me tell you some insider story, becareful of this TahWah and thier boss or board of director, they have been draining away a lot of ‘blood/cash’ in thier land dispute at Raja Uda area. A deep hole and don’t know when they can solve. The may not have much cash to change the design for you all, even a hand railing. Hope they are not taking all your bank release to dump into the deep black hole. If you want to know more, go and understand from the original land owner of the Orange Avenue (their next project, but yet to launch yet)
@TTPPT
I know your pain. But be more rational. I believe everyone also want to get the max value for every single penny paid. But do you think the developer will entertain you? Don’t you think the purchaser club too demanding? No Fiber Optic also developer false?
This sabotager lagi teruk….hehe…lagi behave like kids here…funny…really funny…haha….haha…tak boleh tahan the “joke” la……haha…haha
@Chuah
At first i do not want to come in and comments, but looks like they(purchaser club) had gone too far already. Buy 500K house expect 1 million renovated house..big jokes! The developer sure won’t entertain them lah. The more complaints they made to the public, the lower is the subsales value of their house….
I think we have went this far, we will not back off one. We need to look at the attitude of the developer. Who care, you all totally do not protect your own right and got chopping by the developer still want to support them. We need to promote different way of purchasing house. Don’t you think Mr Hong dare not to listen to them? The housing rule is on the weak, depend of how much the purchaser want to go. We could write in to hold the final 5%. We even can write in to hole everything also. If you sell BMW, make sure you deliver BMW and not Proton Saga.Today what we can is you AhTu, XY are happy with an RM230K price of Proton Saga. Totally not making sense, but only tell other purchaser to accept their lousy quality.
To all buyers, don’t you guys get tired ? It is very clear to us layman outsider. The dveloper has shown hand and point his middle finger at you guys. If you guys not happy, go fuxx your selves. He said very clearly, money talks, bullshxx walks. Understand ???
While someone is accusing others of using multiple nicknames to side the developer, he himself is actually doing this to side his demand, and if we look back to previous posts. I also think that not many (may be 2-3) purchasers are harassing “moderate” buyers here.
The dateline for TahWah is 12-Jun, i.e. tomorrow, or else it will turn more ugly. We will scan all the relevant feedback items and paste it onto the Penang Properties Site. Let all the purchaser and potential purchaser to see and read how proffesional the Club dealing with TahWah. And also i think most member from the purchaser club will every day come and ‘haunting’ TahWah group thro all the Penang Properties Website. Enventually, i think they will match to their office in a big group and asking to meet Mr Hong and Mr Cheong. XY, AhTu, pls go and tell TahWah (since you are their proxy in the blog) to immediate response before thing goes out of control.
We have get ready all insider news about this company. Wait for a few more pcs of infor before we circulate to all BM, BW and Penang FIZ, to alert all potential and all properties industrial player, to make known to everyone, let everyone put focus to TahWah and let them live under scrutinities. Do you all remember, Penang Pakatan government was scrutinize on GCA developer company, Centre Park, let the authorize to scrutinize their work. Don’t you think developer don’t care, you are wrong. Goh Chxxn Axn was got screw upside down by Penang ADUN like a dog because of wrong conduct.
Not sure if all purchasers are having the same opinion but asking for fibre optics, plaster ceiling are probably additions that even some 1M plus house or condo do not have. If every purchaser come out with one item, I guess TahWah really need a lot of cash from the banks to fulfill them.
Buying a house is a willing seller-willing buyer concept. Earlier buyers may take risk because pre-launch price may be cheaper. Later buyers may take less risk but paying slightly more. Unless a clear agreement stated in the S&P, otherwise it is difficult to fulfill everyone’s dream.
@frogprince
Good Say! Struck bull eye
Yes, it is true, pls screw those bad developer. Purchaser have all the right to do so. This is modern and IT era, developer no longer can play out those buyer. CompanyInsider, i support you to disclose all poor act for this developer. If they continue to behave ignoring, then go ahead for the hardway. We reader from other site are supporting you all.
@frogprince
Exactly. But not the case in this forum. Those earlier buyers want to enjoy the privileges but not willing to take the risk. They want to make sure 1M house delivered to them with price 500K.
Apperancely, most purchacer felt cheated buy developer and when asking to meet up with TahWah boss, the boss choose to shy away. This is not willing buy of sell, this is call cheated. If you all really have different opinion (as a real purchaser), why u did not show out in the meeting? Obviously, those defend developer blogger here are developer proxy, a phantom bolgger here. We dare you show out in the next purchaser meeting.
Sorry, we only want we buy BMW with RM250K BMW 3 series price, and bot getting a ProtonSaga. Are we clear enough to you?
@Alice
I think it’s not that some purchasers do not want to protect their rights. It’s just that they are not so “aggressive”. Everyone can do a thing in many different ways.
If really Tah Wah is in deep problem (land and cash issue) like someone say here, then OV buyers should not continue to sabotage the developer. If you paint a bad reputation on TW here, then may be people will cancel their OV/stop buying. Then their new launch may be affected. If TW is really short of cash because of poor sales, then OV houses will get even poorer quality or even the project abandoned. What will happen to TW boss and shareholders? Just transfer some money out and declare the company bankrupt. Who will lose?
This developer have serious attitude problem. Pls avoid.
@frogprince
haha, not everyone understand the laws of offer & acceptance…once they had sign the S&P, means they accepted the rules and conditions including the specs stated inside. Whoever have doubt on the quality one can choose not to buy from that developer. Unless the developer cannot delivered the offer, then buyers can file a suit against developer for breach of contract…just my point of view….
This is chicken and egg story. The choice is on TahWah boss hand. The nature of the game is, Customer come first. Angry customer will be you bad testimony. That simple. Our they still have many buyer felt cheated. It depend n where TahWah boss want to kick the ‘ball’. If he choice to score owne goal, then better he out from the business. We will let our lawyer to go the rest to get back the money. We cannot back off, we cannot feel scare and let people victimize everyone of us as purchaser.
Different era already, purchaser still have many way of got help to press the developer. Do you want all the purchaser start write a letter to hole the money release now? We can write a standard format and email to all purchaser and let them approuch individual bank to stop the payment? Do you think TahWah boss and Mr Hong not worry? As we said, we will not back off. NOT BACK OFF!!
@Alice
Actually, why are most buyers felt being cheated? What are the items promised but not delivered?
@Alice
Hi Alice,
Not sure why would TahWah’s boss would want to meet every purchasers.
I do not think IJM, SP Setia or Mah Sing’s boss would meet any of the purchasers either.
You have to understand the risk in buying a property before viewing. That is the reason why some people waited and willing to pay more. Some even waited until the OC is obtained before buying.
Since you like to use BMW, the scenario would be like buying a new 3 series before it was launch, before you view it and later request to meet the CEO because it is not up to your standard. Do you think they will meet up?
BTW…what BD says is correct. What good will it bring to further sabotage the developer? Instead of not getting the new rail, the purchasers risk of not getting the house itself !
Pls read thru previous 10 pages of comment and join the purchaser club meeting, you will know. If not, pls dont waste our time on you.
@Alice
I’ve been following this thread from page 1. The only thing I think you may feel get cheated is the sales person promise to change the handrail but still no black & white given? Am I correct? Anything else?
To me, you seems like force the developer offer you RM250K for X6 instead of 3 series. Are you clear or not?
Your are developer rep, pls stop asking all purchaser to accept such bad quality, we all have the next cause of action now. 12-Jun is the date.
Pls stop question Alice, she is right of execising her right. We are on her side, same with those who have join the club. We will wait until June-12 and see what TahWah response and will make another great impact to them. Who say, we can’t do anything? Just whether have courage or not? we have time or not? Now day is Earth Village, information transmitted very fast and effective, who dare to cheat peple or being cheated? May be you all still don’t know the effect of IT today. Pls don’t ignore the voice of the club members. The price to pay for TahWah and you all are very huge.
Another developer rep asking purchaser to accept poor quality house. Pls stop do so. PA will do the rest for all purchaser club. Other, pls watch and see next!
@frogprince
From layman outsider’s viewpoint, I ‘ve to side with Alice this time.
1) How can you compare this Tah Wah fellow to IJM, Seta or Mah Sing CEO ? Don’t you think your comparison too far – off ? It’s like comparing Najis to Beckham on how they look ? No ?
2) Whatever it’s , This tah far or tahwa is a lousy developer, which don’t even want to listen to his customer’s grievances. Yes or No, at least listen to customer. The customer accept or not , that’s no another issue . Behaving like a big assholx and being arrogant does not help.
Buyers have to be very cautious, from the way it looks, This ta wah or ta apa guy don’t even care about the company image. They don’t do anything to stop the rot. And THAT IS NOT A VERY GOOD SIGN !
The ball is under the leg of developer. Hope they won’t not score own goal …. commit suiside business. Business is tough, have to use quality to convince customer and not sweet talk and cheating.
@CompanyInsider
I really wish the effect of IT make it effective. With IT help, i wish the house price will drop and i will get one as long as the project not abandon. Am i dreaming? Yes, I think so
@ Chuah
Better don’t have that wish. When the house price drop , that is called deflation and that is not very good.
When the price of houses drop, share market also drop, car sale also drop, your business or your boss’s business also drop, and finally they may decide to drop you. Understand ?
Thank for your understanding. Attitude is the main factor in deciding the success of the business. We angry mainly are due to the arrogant and ignorance from the developer boss of meeting up with Purchaser Club members. Such ego attitude is the main reason of anger. Purchaser are ready to work hand in hand with the developer but seem like they take it badly and ignore us. If today, TahWah want to take back the house and pay us back the money, i think most of the purchaser memebr will willing to withdraw from the purchase. As i say, good sign or not a good sign is pending on TahWah them self. Not us.
Yes attitude is the key of sucess, where i think TahWah do not have good attitude. The company attitude is depend on their boss, Hong. If Hong did not implant good value to their staff, how to expect their staffs will show good attitute. Yes, not a good sign to TahWah business. may be this is thier first and last project.
@Ok Liau
No, my wish only meant for Orange Villa since so many intend to bring down the value. Hope my wish will come true
You’re welcome, Alice. Soldier on, justice will prevail.
By the way, you missed my point. When I said “that’s not a very good sign”, I mean not a good sign of that developer, and not about this OV project. God bless you guys.
Imagine if someody or in this case, many person say that Alice is a slut, and you Alice don’t take the efforts to listen to them, and try to clear your name at the soonest, I will tend to think that there is something very wrong with Alice. Simple.
Can you count in this 10 pages of comment, how many times this so-called this tahwah being called A CHEAT ? That’s is my point.
@Alice
It’s been a long time OV purchaser club “official spokespersons” do not comment here and I don’t really know how the developer respond to the club’s request. The developer does not respond or they reject the petition?
TahWah had become famous because of Orange Villa. Thanks to this forum. Orange Villa should be profitable as it had nearly sold out!
I got ur point now. Too many purchaser complain being cheated buy TahWah still do not take action to clear their name. For sure something is very wrong with TahWah and their Boss. Now i got your point here. Many be they are really run out of cash !!!
Be careful of the platinum lady.
Her written english is so bad, and so flawed with so many wrong words, I don’t think she is in the legal profession. Is she is in, she must be a bad lawyer. I have so many lawyer friends and they will never solicit business this manner in the forum. I call it PARIAH, and I can’t think of another word.
She is more likely the developer agent try to find out who is commenting in this forum. BE CAREFUL, it will never go wrong.
Really, oh … i just give mine.
@ Hello Platinum PriXk,
Want to pretend to be a lawyer, attend an English class first. Judging from the error in what you’ve written, I think It wouldn’t be too late if you start from standard one. No offense, just try to point out your atrocious English.
Pls drop you email to the email provide in previous page. Join the purchaser club if you really what to know the status. But you have to be ready to disclose you real identity.
@ TTPPT
If you are not the developer’s agent, and if your are already over the age of 12, My advice to you is , try to use your head more.
If the buyers really want to give a lesson to this TW due to bad attitude, i still think the best way is withdraw from this purchase and fight for the 100% refund rather force them to deliver a list of expectations…buy similar cost with better quality house nearby with the refund is more practical move.
Already read, found @WinnieWowWow using multiples nick names to give bad comments to developer here de such as @Alice and many more !!! Check the writing styles and see.
@ Alice,
After what I wrote, and after my full support to you, and after how I condemn the Tak apa Wah, you still think that I’m the developer proxy. I surrender. I agree that I fail. From now onwards, I will be Pro- Tak Apa Wah, Boleh Kah ?
Yeah, looks like 2-3 sabotager acting as genuine buyer to sabotag OV with the hope it price can be down. I hope it price can be down also so that i can buy it but i think hard lar.
Went to the site last weekend, good sales, out of total unit only 10+ unit left, 6-7 units has been marked with green sticker, the cutie sales girl said the green sticker are reserved units, it is reserved by potential buyers. So for those 2-3 sabotagers, don’t hope it price will be down lar. But let me know if the OV price down after you guys boilt it, i’ll buy. The best is the price can be down to it original selling price which is rm548,800. 😉 .
Club members, let us see what is the response from Developer. What we need actually a meeting with dato hong to discuss about our concern. Hope he could spend his valuable time to talk to us.
@ Rain8989
Be a man. If you like the project, buy it. If you cannot afford it, work harder. God will help those who help themselves. Never heard of it, No ?
OV residents will not welcome a “soft -bone ” person with no spinal cord like your goodself into their community.
@ Rain8989
You are CHEAP. The residents are talking quality issue, you’re talking price. If you cannot afford OV, I’m sure there are other cheaper projects in BM right ?
That is great, TTPPT. Glad to see you start to use your head, and do start thinking now. My advice is, don’t simply give away your identity to strangers, especially if she said she is a lawyer.
@frogprince
wah your inggeris is veli good lor….england standard, using proverb somemore. you dunno anything eh lah, we are trying to get more free items not listed in the SPA mah….like that also you dont understand. aiyo i am using my capacity as the future chairman to demand for free items mah. we must make use of this free website to hentam hentam hentam the developer lah. those days where got this facility….now is the IT era…use the website to threaten the developer….ask for more freebies lo. new developer like tah wah cannot stay subborn for too long one….sure they will kowtow to us the buyer….it’s the buyer’s market now. if they are still stubborn we hentam again lah, use multiple names afterall they wont know who you are….yes let’s march to their office with the journalist, please dont back out fellow OV buyers out there
@BD
Bingo!! you are real smart except that you didnt know they are all winniewowow, the worst that he started was strike tah wah but nobody responded to his comment, he striked himself so the name disappeared into thin air. even in the club he’s acting as if he’s the future chairman but he can stoop very low to harrass the developer so how good a chairman can he be.
BD, you are lucky cos you are not the buyer of OV but i am. Everyone in the club knows his unit, one consolation is i’m not his direct neighbour….phewww.
@ BD
ooppss forgot to mention, he wont use winniewowwow to hentam cos the developer knows him so cowardly he uses many other name to hentam
@NoEyesSee
Hi fellow members of the OV Club, smart also ya, using new nicknames here. Please dont let our identity reveal if not we will be harrassed like what they did to the developer. we must agree to their suggestions only….hitler style
@ frogprince,
You reply to me in #170 is full shix. Looking back at your original comment at #122, I see even more shix.
Be an adult, own up to what you expressed. There is no place for spin doctor here.
Wah so much drama here. LOL!
@Alice,
The fire has spread to 10 pages, why don’t you post out the requests to the developer as what capitalist alonso is suggesting ? If no, people will suspect somebody may have harboured some hidden agenda to sabotage TaaWah, the biggie developer, and it is not fair to them too.
@NoEyesSee
your name already ‘noeyesee’. so, whoever, your neighbour is ok because you cannot see them. he eh
I’m the real Alice. Why some one is using my name? Anyway, Tat Wah just give me call this late evening. Everything are settled. I’m very happy with the response from Tat Wah and Tat Wah is offering me something very special. So, I will out of this forum. No good to continue to condemn Tat Wah.
ADMIN, are you the one diam diam deleted some of the comments? hahaha
Pariah developer only cave in after people make noise.
The louder you are, the more you get.
Not fair to those moderate and quiet buyers, who quietly support you all this while.
Want to be MS, IJM or Setia, can wait until the cow comes home with this kind of multiple standard and different preferential treatment, towards different customers. Good Luck TahWah.
@Chuah
It is getting very too spicy, I think admin @Mr. Ken is doing a Damx good job !
@Alice
what did Tat Wah offered you ? sometime is good to make noise
@ Alice
Hey, not bad ya…me too, the developer also called me. what did you get? they agreed to upgrade my staircase to stainless steel provided i stay out of this forum. what do you think, shall i bargain for more? bigger floor tiles like their showhouse?
@ lost
hey you better dont sell your unit at this stage, call to tat wah office look for hong and bargain for more. they are scared now….who knows you can get a free elevator….eh, tatt lo that thing cost rm120K you know
after a while silence in propertytalk… OV page is back to heat up as usual…. hooraay……………. OV will be famous…….. keep the momentum rock…..
@angry bird
If you live up to your name, make more noise and post a few more comments, you will get a few diamond toilet bowls in your toilets. How about a golden garage ? not bad also what ?
@ NoEyesSee
hey friend, what do you think about the offer by Tah Wah? I doubt they are true.
@ NoEyesSee
The word is “Notorious ” , check the online dictionary, it is free. Aren’t we living in a wonderful world ?
As what our OK Liau mentioned before. Use your brain la.
@angry bird
you got stainless steel handrail ? not bad huh .. why are they now so generous ?
@ Chuah
2 persons already mentioned the same thing here…may be true you know? Are you a buyer? Let’s ask the developer tomoro?
@Ok Liau
You are dreaming. Who can offered you diamond toilet? you think, they are brunei sultan.
@ lost
you don know that i makes the most noise here and all my comments are constructive one so now the developer realise my comments are good so that tat wah can be the best developer in mainland
@angry bird
I heard the developer also offered some with 2 unit of free air-cond, some with plaster ceiling. Is this true ?
The stainless steel handrail is for the whole project?
@Ccab
heard they offered many stuff. Different buyer got different offer . . good developer.
@ lost and Ccab
they offered to me stainless steel staircase, that’s for me only not the hole project….small developer like tat wah how to afford
lost, i don know about air-cond and plaster ceiling but to me stainless steel staircase is alrdy a good bargain cos that’s what i’ve been barking on
keep our finger cross lo…. let wait until they trigger us
I thought the original stair case is already stainless steel?
Some one is using my name to post un-true message. I never received anything or offer. I am still waiting for developer response.
Tah Wah gives special treat to some of the buyers? This is not children playing mamasak la…
Some non-OV-buyers may take this opportunity to create anger & misunderstanding between OV buyers and Tah Wah. I think only mentally-ill true OV buyers will do this. So very likely this is the act of other developer’s sales rep pretending to be OV buyer, trying to sabotage Tah Wah. If real OV buyers echo his/her negative comments, then you will fall into their trap, and lose the battle eventually.
Anything happen today?
AhTu…… did Tah Wah developer call and offer you some special items….? I have not receive call from Tah Wah yet. please tell me the true if developer had offer you …….you know lah I trust you what you said in this forum.
i not received any callls from tah wah on this oso laa…i think some of the blogger talking nonsense here nia la….hehe..they r trying to make chaos here nia la…don’t trust them lor….hehe..let them ka ki kong ka ki song la….hehe
AhTU……why they want to talk nonsense and poison the developer………at the end OV price will not increase when compljavascript:void(0);eted and also cannot be the best in mainland lor………
AhTU……why they want to talk nonsense and poison the developer………at the end OV price will not increase when completed and also cannot be the best in mainland lor………
PALM VILLAS G&G is the best of all in mainland. haha…..
FYI, received second rejection letter from Ms Lee.
Mr Cheong has even called me and claimed that we sabotage the entire project? Come on la, I’ve mentioned clearly to consider wisely before making the decision, their decision did upset OV Purchaser Club, it’s a fact, who want to purposely sabotage something after paying more than RM50K (deposit and first payment) ?
Be matured sikit la fellow TW hired trolls…
Everyone wants to make the project looks good, don’t simply throw the responsibility to your customer when you are ruining yourself.
Bottom line is, the gate is still open, we are ready to talk, dont shut the door yourself.
Ignorant will brought the business empire down.
One more thing, Ah Tu you should realize how supportive we were before Tah Wah launched the show houses, I can’t imagine you saying that we are trying sabotage the project.
Developer did not fulfill their commitment and yet to be ignorant to listen to their buyers who already signed the SnP. what is this? hit and run?
BTW, personally you’ve also upset me for being such a coward to reveal yourself in the meeting or join the group officially. How to convince people that you’re not from Tah Wah?
haiz – too many Alice – I went to Tat Wah office today and the sales rep (Stephanie) said there are not such thing that buyer are negotiating with Tat Wah. She said Tat Wah will not bother what is written in this forum. She ask me not to believe anything in this forum. She considered all buyers in this forum are difficult buyer and she said probably only 10%, so why bother as 90% more buyer are not making any noise …
@hybr1d3d
As you are one of the purchaser club leader, do you know who is this “angry bird” who claim that developer gives him special treat? Do you know who is “Strike TahWah” et al who always want to threaten developer? If u all don’t know then better ask him to reveal himself in the next meeting. If no one confess, then he is either a coward or other developer’s sabotager.
Does the purchaser club support its members to sabotage the developer? You have to make it clear to Tah Wah, and draw a line between these fellows and the purchaser club. If u all support the sabotager to pressure the developer this way, then it’s your choice.
wah lao….. i am one of the member of the purchaser club… looking at current situation.
it’s bad… but after a short call with one of the sales rep.. i am confident that tahwah will do something….. please give them time. we will see the effort of the developer.
you want instant noodle or abalone? if abalone then please be patient.
To tah wah, the person who direct confront with you did not represent the purchase club member. Please do the needful to get rid of the cancer. thanks
that is y i said some of the buyers that claimed he/she represent the orange vila purchaser club is behave like kids lor..hehe….i dun like to tembak ppl la as this is not my styles when solving the issue…i like solving the issue in professional n rational way….but looks like the orange vila eh club eh lead really thinking not mature n not rational oso..i m wonder how the person can lead the club laa..hehe….not to say leading the whole orange vila JMC in the future….how lam lor…the person will bring all resident to “holand” lor….hehe…u c laa…developer pun rejected to talk to the person who claimed he/she is orange vila purchaser club eh taiko…..how lam lor….hehe…if i m developer la, i oso dun want to talk to the person that sabotage my project or threaten me la….hehe…think think kua wat i said is true or not la…
@ JusticeBao
i 100% agree with you that we need to get rid of the cancer. it’s a disgrace to be represented by these 2 guys. their action is to sabotage the project but still deny, maybe they dont understand the meaning of sabotage. they thought the developer must work under their direction, everything needs their approval, customize to their personal preference. when the developer refused to meet up with them they jump like monkeys.
these 2 guys please do not represent all the buyers, act on your own capacity plzzzzz, we still want to maintain our good relationship with the developer. this is a g&g project, we still have a long way to work hand in hand to bring up the project.
harmonious living and cooperation amongst residents is the key to a good g&g project and to start off a good Orange Villa these 2 guys must be kicked out. my advise to these 2 guys is to buy your own land and build your own house
u guys always said being cheated by tah wah….hehe…i’m buyer as well….i flip through my SnP until it want to koyak liao n i oso brought it to the show house n try to find what are the missing part in the show house that not fulfilling SnP……i really not see what is missing there…can u tell us here which parts we r being cheated by tah wah? i oso curious to know la…hehe
i admitted that there’re some flaws in the buidling design n i oso highlighted to tah wah on it….fyi details buidling design normally will not stated in the standard SnP lor…although the building design not stated there but they said to me that they will looks on the issue that i brought up to them…but i think some of the issues really hard to solve especially when touch on the changes that need to change the approved design plan by MPSP lor…..hehe…if wat u all request will b touch on the approved design plan then i think it is veli veli hard liao lor…cause changes to the approved plan need time n they might need to start all over again to apply the approval if the plan changed…n this will sure impacted OC approval later on….unless wat u all request is not touch on building design n also reasonable request laa…then developer might consider lor as i believe they oso want to make their first project a successful project ma….hehe..
so be patient la…tembak the developer n try to threaten them by giving bad comments here will not solve the issue la…this is really a kids ways la…..it will make the issue more complicated laa…hehe…most of our tiang rumah pun not see it lagi, n u guys hu ha here liao…funny la…hehe…haha…
@ Ah Tu
many ppl condemned you for not joining the club but you have done the right thing. now my name is stucked in the club eventho i’m not an active member, they just need my name to show the number cos the members are too few
@ Ah Tu
you are not part of the club so you dunno leh. there are many things that we also think it’s overboard but these 2 guys insist to go ahead, their request is really too much, asking for free air cond pipe, plaster ceiling, alarm system, provide additional features to the house that requires submisison of building plan. even the hedges they want the developer to commit to a certain height and shape…this is real joker. haih….no wonder the developer refused to see them. buying a house is a dream but dunno why these 2 guys want to make their life miserable.