Permatang Sanctuary

Spread over 100 acres of sprawling land, set amidst Permatang Tinggi, the landscape of this district will never be the same again with the development of Permatang Sanctuary, featuring “Eco Living” – Adding life, health and fun to ordinary lifestyle.

This guarded residential property development comprises 188 units 2-storey semi-detached, 488 units 2-storey link semi-detached, 10 units of bungalow and 134 units of link bungalow houses. Located within the established neighbourhood of Bukit Mertajam. It is about a 15-minute drive from Juru Auto-City and the Penang Second Link. This “Eco Living” township is conveniently accessible and linked to the North-South Highway and Penang Bridge.

Permatang Sanctuary Phase 1 consists of 78 units of double-storey semi-detacheds and 92 units of double-storey link semi-detacheds which is targeted to be launched by the end of 2011.

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Property Project : Permatang Sanctuary
Location : Permatang Tinggi, Bukit Mertajam, Penang
Property Type : 2-Storey Semi-Detached & Bungalow
Tenure : Freehold
Total Units : 188 (Semi-D), 488 (link Semi-D), 10 (Bungalow), 134 (link Bungalow)
Developer : IJM Land
Contact No: 04-296 1222

Indicative Price: RM 400,000 onwards

    May 9th, 2011 at 10:27 | #1

    This is going to be another significant project, on 100 acres of land.

  2. BB
    May 10th, 2011 at 08:15 | #2

    where is the exact location ? I am interested to know more about the surrounding. any advice or recommendation ?

    May 10th, 2011 at 12:06 | #3

    [removed as the location was incorrect. Correct location is now updated in the post]

  4. T
    May 10th, 2011 at 13:15 | #4

    [removed as requested by author]

  5. T
    June 7th, 2011 at 22:01 | #5

    site owner pls remove my comment, seem like the site is not that close to Perwira.

    June 7th, 2011 at 23:08 | #6

    Your comments is removed as requested.

  7. bear
    June 9th, 2011 at 10:15 | #7

    any hse layout plan ? heard have 4 themed parks, have master plan to show?

  8. Hwa
    June 9th, 2011 at 22:23 | #8

    any site office nearby?

    June 10th, 2011 at 09:49 | #9

    The project will only launch by the end of the year. I doubt they have any plan yet. May be you can check with IJM office to see if they have any site plan. Usually IJM’s project plan will only be out very late.

  10. D
    June 29th, 2011 at 23:34 | #10

    Anyone know if this is a good purchase if for own stay? If working at butterworth.

  11. Deal
    June 30th, 2011 at 15:26 | #11

    If you choose a unit make sure it is far away from the railway line, the train vibration & noise can be menacing 24/7, if you stay there it is better to use NS highway via tambun exit to go butterworth rather than stuck in the jam or traafic light on the trunk road.

  12. D
    July 1st, 2011 at 20:04 | #12

    Thanks. But I don’t know where is the existing area or is there a flooded area? Any new projects going to launch at nearby besides this project. IJM did not provide the actual price but should more than RM400k, this consider higher at that area?

  13. Lemon
    July 4th, 2011 at 16:56 | #13

    FYI: (found from IJM website)
    378K for Link semi-D
    499K for Semi-D
    590K for Bungalow
    598K for Link Bungalow,
    seem not bad, but the site is too far to goto Penang compare with BM Utama/BM Permai.

  14. D
    July 10th, 2011 at 01:45 | #14

    Thanks, any flies nearby or any potential future development at nearby? Right now the only more closer i can see is Tesco and not much. The price will only confirm by end of the year but sure will up. Really hard to catch up the property even in mainland also and further too far from bridge. Do you think is worth to stay or invest? High future appreciation? Thanks.

  15. Rapid
    July 29th, 2011 at 09:57 | #15

    22×48 build up for Semi D ??? this is the smallest build up i ever seen for Semi D. IJM really treat penang people r pig, slaughter kao kao till see bone.

  16. CS
    July 30th, 2011 at 21:32 | #16

    I call up the office – yes, the build up is small. the land area is also small

  17. steve
    July 31st, 2011 at 20:04 | #17

    hi all,may i know this project has been launch?
    This is a flood area?
    How much the price?

  18. Deal
    August 17th, 2011 at 20:04 | #18

    i’m ok if they sell the small semi-d for terrace price

  19. Iol
    September 8th, 2011 at 17:53 | #19

    many more news on Permatang Sanctuary?

  20. Iol
    September 8th, 2011 at 17:53 | #20

    any more news on Permatang Sanctuary?

  21. Iol
    September 8th, 2011 at 17:54 | #21

    is the layout plan ready now?

  22. k9
    September 15th, 2011 at 16:09 | #22

    They plan to launch it on coming Nov. The build up is small, like terrace size only especially on its width(22 for semi-d, 20 for linked semi-d). Because of the size is small, then the price also not high –> around 400-450k.

  23. Iol
    September 15th, 2011 at 16:26 | #23

    notice chicken farm opposite to the project area :(

  24. BD
    September 15th, 2011 at 16:27 | #24

    Will there be facilities like swimming pool or gym?

  25. Josh
    September 17th, 2011 at 10:17 | #25


    Acoording to the SA, no facilities, it is non G&G, but only guarded.

  26. Iol
    September 18th, 2011 at 15:50 | #26

    what is the different between guarded and gated?

  27. Kee
    October 20th, 2011 at 21:11 | #27

    What is the difference between semi d and linked semi d?

  28. pghome
    October 20th, 2011 at 22:26 | #28

    Linked semi-d are usually have back to back linked together

  29. Buyer
    October 21st, 2011 at 01:38 | #29

    Linked semi-d , the roofs of the houses are joint together and every unit
    has a side compound.

  30. Josh
    October 21st, 2011 at 11:06 | #30

    Linked semi-d means that you do not have back garden, it is linked to your opposite neighbour house at the back. So it is like fully extended at the back, and your house shares the same back wall with your rear neighbour’s house.

  31. PenangHunter
    October 21st, 2011 at 11:17 | #31

    should name it as Quarter-D …. haha …. just a 2 cent suggestion

  32. Permatang
    October 21st, 2011 at 12:15 | #32

    Surrounding area got lot of bangladesh, go check it and see 😉

  33. BD
    October 21st, 2011 at 13:48 | #33

    exactly… just draw a big square, then draw another bigger square enclosing it, then draw a cross to divide the squares into 4 quadrants. This should be how the plan of 4 linked semi-D looks like.

  34. Kee
    November 14th, 2011 at 21:18 | #34

    Good for investment/investment? Any expert advice?

  35. CK
    November 14th, 2011 at 23:05 | #35

    Am no expert. Just personal opinion.

    It is always more favorable to invest in large scale project than small isolated one. You should go for it if the location suits you.

  36. CK
    November 14th, 2011 at 23:08 | #36

    Also, the developer is IJM. Plus point is the security you had. Should have less worries the project is abandon or delayed.

  37. BD
    November 19th, 2011 at 12:03 | #37

    Already approaching end Nov, any latest news on its launch?

  38. Kee
    November 27th, 2011 at 08:19 | #38

    Yeah I would like to know too. Ijm seems like a good developer?

  39. miracle
    November 28th, 2011 at 21:22 | #39

    I called the IJM office today, understand that they will have soft launch by mid of Dec. They are open for registeration now.Anyone who intereste to know more, you can contact this number 04-2961288.
    I will give them a call after 2 weeks and see what information that I could get and will share it out here.

  40. K9
    November 28th, 2011 at 21:50 | #40


    No doubt IJM Land is a good developer, but the problem of this project is its surrounding taman(s) not good, the location and security there also looks bad, may be will have flooding issues too as the land there is low, you can see developer is planning for big retention pond in this project, and unfornately this project is not fall under a gng concept, it is just having guarded but without gated concept.

    If IJM Land can upgrade this project to gng concept then it might be a worth buy, but by doing this, the estimated selling price sure no more 400k-450k, it might be above 550k -600k . 😉

  41. Central unit
    November 28th, 2011 at 21:57 | #41

    I will not buy

  42. J&J
    November 28th, 2011 at 22:26 | #42

    To build it in the middle of a jungle and to attract buyers, the developer
    associate it with “Eco Living”.

  43. BD
    November 29th, 2011 at 08:41 | #43

    J&J :
    To build it in the middle of a jungle and to attract buyers, the developer
    associate it with “Eco Living”.

    Haha.. like this!

    Last time Alma land was cheap and used to be a place for lower cost home, but for the past 5 years things have changed, with influx of better houses like Alma Indah, Seri Impian, Impian Residences, Jesselton Hills, Desa Impian etc. Perhaps more to come after IJM. Buyers may have current Tesco and future Jusco in mind. The site is quite close to main federal road, not that isolated actually. But the surrounding shops are really an eyesore.

  44. Buyer
    November 29th, 2011 at 09:36 | #44

    So its neither “Eco Living” nor “Economical Living”. The area now is
    ecocatastrophe by the living beings.

  45. K9
    November 29th, 2011 at 09:56 | #45


    Agree on some good housing developments in Alma area, but those good housing development areas not adjacent to this project 😉 . Not only surrounding shops an eyesore, the nearby old housing areas that built by asas dunia last time also looks no good. I more concerns on the security there, that’s why i’m curiuos on why IJM Land not build a gng concept for this project, may be because of the cost i think. :-)

  46. yanguy
    December 8th, 2011 at 01:09 | #46

    going to soft launch this coming 17’s saturday for earlier bird discounts n 0 entry package given!!! :)

  47. BD
    December 8th, 2011 at 14:07 | #47

    DNP and IJM head to head! Don’t know whether this project will catch the eyes of IJM’s loyal customers/investors or not… If too many investors buy here, then it can be a problem…

  48. Kee
    December 9th, 2011 at 21:42 | #48

    >438k for linked semi D. is it worth? Only attraction nearby is Tesco

  49. Central unit
    December 10th, 2011 at 12:05 | #49

    Not worth, the area are packed n flood prone. Too far for bridge, no school nearby. IJM really cut throat, shd boycott them.

  50. BD
    December 10th, 2011 at 12:24 | #50

    Why always mention bridge? Not everyone work in Pg OK?

    There are 2 Chinese primary schools nearby and the JSHS Sg Rambai & Tasek are also not far away.

    The land at Jusco site has been cleared now.

    It’s IJM and we should expect higher price, even though we don’t like it, like Mahsing, SP Setia, E&O etc.

  51. Central unit
    December 10th, 2011 at 15:54 | #51

    Becos for tis pricing, mainland ppl definately will not buy. Left only island ppl to invest but not much of pulling factors. So not worth to talk also

  52. BD
    December 10th, 2011 at 19:08 | #52

    I think Jusco is a decent pulling factor. If the Impiana commercial hub can be a success, then it will add icing on cake. For an “original” BM guy like me, I think this area is ok, just the price a bit steep, unless IJM can give a bigger built-up.

    Anyway, 2S Semi-D in Pearl Villa S Ampat also start at this price, and 1S Semi-D at the adjacent Desa Impian also about 320k now, though they are not linked Semi-D… mainland ppl can still afford to buy this place, I’m keen to know its respond.

  53. Central unit
    December 10th, 2011 at 21:50 | #53

    Now u got it right, the build is totally at losing side. Semi d for 20×47 n 22×47 is totally out of league. This small build up not worth for 450k at all. Wat is so great about jusco? I bet no ppl will everday shop at the expensive stuff.

  54. SS
    December 10th, 2011 at 22:29 | #54

    Never mind about the size even if it’s a terrace house, I will buy for 600k
    if the location is near to Habour Place but not here. If it’s 700k in Sg.Ara,
    I wouldn’t buy either.

  55. KH
    December 11th, 2011 at 11:07 | #55

    Wanna to ask:

    Is Permatang Sanctuary that side got many flies, got shit smell or not?
    Is it near Chick or Pig Farm or Broiler or not?

    If compare to Jesselton Hills, Permatang Sanctuary should be much better choise right?

    Will u go to see see look look on this project?

  56. BD
    December 11th, 2011 at 12:35 | #56

    Hypermarket is always used as a point by developers to attract buyers, and Jusco is a “more prestigious” hypermarket. If inside Jusco or the ICH has stuff like TGIF, Sakae, i-dragon, McD, MPH, Popular, Giordano, Chatime, GSC, Redbox, banks etc, then Alma will be a happening satellite town.

    You can go to sit at the coffee shop there and experience yourself. I think there is flies issue there, but may be not too serious. There are farms deep inside the area. Can’t really compare both Jesselton Hill & Permatang Sanctuary now, as P sanctuary actual plan and price not out yet. Location wise Jesselton seems a bit better, more centralized with more alternative routes to use. P Santuary is close to railway track. If got time I’ll definitely go and “keh po chi” there, but not going to buy.

    Anyway, the >438k price is confirmed?

  57. KH
    December 11th, 2011 at 13:27 | #57

    I have no idea whether the price is confirmed or not leh …

    Website only stated Link Semi-D 400K Bucks onwards, Semi-D 450K Bucks onwards …

    Price seems like much much cheaper & reasonable than Jesselton Hills leh …
    Actually I am interested on this project …

    House Appearance Design also more beautiful and attractive I think as compare to Jesselton Hills …

    I stay in Singapore, hence I do not have time to sit at the coffee shop there to experience the flies condition, to identify whether got shit smell like Pearl Villas @ Pearl City or not …

    Btw, actually how far is the Permatang Sanctuary to Tesco & Jusco leh?

    Is that Permatang Sanctuary location Good?

    U mentioned that there r 2 Chinese Primary School there? Is it near to Permatang Sanctuary?

  58. Kee
    December 11th, 2011 at 13:35 | #58

    Price is confirmed. 438k is the lowest.

  59. KH
    December 11th, 2011 at 13:48 | #59

    How about Semi-D Price leh?
    Is there any Promotion Package leh?
    Confirm will be lanching on 17 Dec 2011?

  60. Central unit
    December 11th, 2011 at 14:06 | #60

    It not consider semi d, it shd call it by terrace house bcos of the small build up. IJM really treat BW ppl dunngu

  61. divinity
    December 11th, 2011 at 14:58 | #61

    Got a chick farm opposite the site. Besides, there are a few within 500m radius.

  62. KH
    December 11th, 2011 at 21:28 | #62

    That means Permatang Sanctuary side should have many flies & also got shit smell liao lah?
    Because so many chick farms located so near to PS …

  63. BD
    December 12th, 2011 at 10:20 | #63

    If u have decided to buy in this area, then both Jesselton Hill & permatang Sanctuary should be alright. You can choose according to your preference, everyone will have their own opinion.

    You can study the wikimap to see the location of Tesco, future Jusco, chicken farms in relative to both projects. http://wikimapia.org/#lat=5.3154067&lon=100.4855919&z=15&l=0&m=b

    The 2 chinese primary schools are 1. SJKC Permatang Tinggi, just about 1km drive (2min) south of P sanctuary, 2. SJKC Sin Ya, about 3km drive (5min) north of P sanctuary.

  64. yanguy
    December 15th, 2011 at 00:55 | #64

    price from 438K for link semiD and it’s ZERO entry promotion booking this coming sat and extra 20K off to be given for 1st 40’s owner who book for the phase1!!!!

    don’t know got Q-up status as previous ijm’s project?? :)

  65. kee
    December 15th, 2011 at 08:25 | #65

    what does zero entry promotion means?

  66. central unit
    December 15th, 2011 at 09:04 | #66

    Until you look at the actual site which close to a chicken farm then you will lost your appetite

  67. KH
    December 15th, 2011 at 10:58 | #67

    @central unit
    Permatang Sanctuary near chicken farm? How far?
    Means should have many flies and Wonderful Shit Smell liao right?
    I very concern on Flies & Wonderful Shit Smell Issues …
    I visited Pearl Villas, Pearl Garden, Pearl Indah @ Pearl City, I totally can’t adapt to it !
    Jesselton Hills also near chicken farm? I saw Ayamas Broiler just behind it … Jesselton Hills show house also have many flies …
    Seems like so many chicken farms surrounding Alma Area lah …

  68. Hope
    December 15th, 2011 at 22:32 | #68

    Don’t get cheated, this soft launch phase contain all weird unit. the standard unit size only 30 Feet With, but 98 Feet long loh…but honestly…checken farm is just 100 Meter away for the farest unit. meaning some is just behind your house, somemore, indah water (Logi Najis) also there. Last…the recreation park is actually water retention pond. Plp dun mind actually worth for buy.

  69. Central unit
    December 16th, 2011 at 08:33 | #69

    Rentention pond will bcome centralization of rubbish collector. Chicken farm is just a stone throw away from the site. The lot size is not square shape but odd shape. The built up is 20×47, 22×47, shd call itself as terrace la.

  70. BD
    December 16th, 2011 at 08:51 | #70

    Though the build-up is narrow, but the land at the side is bigger. Some people may prefer to have bigger empty land, rather than bigger build-up. Most standard Semi-D nowadays only have little land at the side, less place to run around, relax or plant something.

  71. Central unit
    December 16th, 2011 at 09:07 | #71

    @BD then you shd buy a empty land and live on it with bigger space but 0 buildup

    I dont think ppl will need bigger land but smaller build up. Want a space to run around, just drive to hypermarket you can run around with air cond build in too. ho ho ho

  72. BD
    December 16th, 2011 at 10:17 | #72

    @Central unit
    Why r u trying so desperately to defend your “dislike” for this project? From your feedback, I think you should buy an empty land 40×80, build your house with a buidup of 40×80 and park your car outside.

  73. Ah Qua
    Ah Qua
    December 16th, 2011 at 10:32 | #73

    Actually the ‘dislikes’ or criticism for any housing projects can create awareness in our property purchase. Just listen with a pinch of salt and go to the site to survey ourselves. You’ll be amazed by how much u can find by driving round the site at different time of the day. Also, it’s helpful to speak to the locals around that area to find out things like flies and flood. We houser buyers need to protect ourselves.

  74. BD
    December 16th, 2011 at 10:52 | #74

    @Ah Qua
    It’s actually good to have different kinds of input and opinion, either good or bad. It’s also ok for some people who does not like their opinion being challenged and try to proof that he/she is right. But, he/she has to give facts, not non-sense.

  75. Hope
    December 16th, 2011 at 11:12 | #75

    Just wnet to the site again this morning, found out it is too near already. The Wikimap has not updated with the new chic farm which is more nearer. Even can hear the chicken noise from the farest unit.

    Honestly….I hopeless….not worth to buy like Central Unit said…not in square sharpe…

  76. pricker
    December 16th, 2011 at 12:36 | #76

    if land area n built-up “kecik”, dont even bother to commend on it !!! why waste time?!!! look elsewhere !!! plenty of other projects around!!!

  77. KH
    December 16th, 2011 at 14:28 | #77

    Wah sai … Farest unit also can hear Chicken Noise …
    Like that Jia Lat … Sure have many Flies and Wonderful Shit Smell liao, like Pearl Garden, Villas, Indah etc …
    I will forget about it liao …

    How about Jesselton Hills? Also near to Chicken Farm?

  78. BD
    December 16th, 2011 at 14:44 | #78

    Permatang sanctuary linked semi-d land 33×80 (2640sf), ground built-up 20×47 (940sf), RM438k.

    Jesselton Hill semi-d land 36×72 (2592sf), ground built-up 26×44 (1144sf), RM588k (I guess this will be the new price after this weekend).

    PS linked semi-d actually has bigger land and bigger car porch than JH’s true semi-d. It will be nice if IJM can give a built-up like 24×43 (wider but shorter), I guess should not cost much extra in building cost kua… Anyway, the price of RM438k is only “estimated” price.

  79. BD
    December 16th, 2011 at 14:50 | #79

    If can, pls update the location of the new chicken farm on wikimap. Is it just south of the site?

    Again, you can refer to wikimap. Someone put it as “Chicken Hills”! Also noted one just side by side with Desa Impian! I can’t confirm whether they are true or not.

  80. KH
    December 16th, 2011 at 15:18 | #80

    Thanks for the info …
    Btw, r u going to visit the soft launch tomorrow leh ?
    If u r visiting the launch, Could u pls help to further update confirm on the chicken farm location …

  81. Hope
    December 16th, 2011 at 15:59 | #81

    @BD & KH & all;

    I am local to the area, trust me, I consider my self as the expert in this project. I already do alot of survey and I even have all the lot price and size. For Semi D – Actually there are only about 4 unit with RM485K (Original Price B4 RM20K discount), 10-15 unit with RM532K above…..so very limitted. I thought to Q at tomorrow early in the morning, but with the inof and again visit to the site again….I totally give up….

  82. BD
    December 16th, 2011 at 18:59 | #82

    I don’t think I will susah payah go into the area to find out about the chicken farm… if got motorbike then it’s ok. Hope that Hope can help u.

  83. eenngg
    December 16th, 2011 at 21:44 | #83

    From the wikimap, the chicken farm just next to Jesselton Hill.

  84. Hope
    December 16th, 2011 at 22:16 | #84

    No need motorbike, from Impian Indah you can see clearly..

  85. KH
    December 17th, 2011 at 00:28 | #85

    From Wiki Map, I saw a Extremely Berry Big Chicken Hills located just beside the Jesselton Hills leh … Shit, Seems like the DNP Sales Gals are Cheating … She Said Many Many Flies was due to they used Shit as the fertilizer to plant the surronding flowers leh …

    But why there is not indication of Chicken Farm just beside Permatang Sanctuary leh?
    Is it the Triangle Shape one?

  86. Central Unit
    December 17th, 2011 at 16:34 | #86

    only few flies in the sale office today, look like mainland ppl are smart consumers.

  87. ABCD
    December 17th, 2011 at 20:32 | #87

    the chicken farm location can be seen here
    according to the article, most units already taken up despite located next to the chicken farm

  88. Jason
    December 17th, 2011 at 20:44 | #88

    the most critical thing i heard from others is there have a mosque with 2acres land in this project. Not sure it is true or not.. If there is a mosque build in here, that’s mean will have malay graveyard here. Anyone can find out about this?

  89. BD
    December 18th, 2011 at 10:28 | #89

    The proposed mosque is at the apartment side. For the retention pond, I don’t find it appealing at all… Really not many flies at the sales office, perhaps seasonal, or the farm practice good hygiene… Need to ask those staying at Impian Indah.

  90. Kee
    December 18th, 2011 at 11:12 | #90

    Central unit,
    U said only few flies in the office is referring to only few buyers during launching or the real flies?? Hahaha.

  91. Premier
    February 1st, 2012 at 20:39 | #91

    Hey. if there is chicken farm next to Jesselton Hills, how come everytime i go to the show house i don’t smell chicken smell? Did anyone smell that before? In Pearl Garden / Indah, definately can smell it but in Jesselton Hill, not too obvious…

  92. Allen
    February 1st, 2012 at 20:46 | #92

    Not too obvious mean have loh …. if you have a dog nose, sure u cannot tahan it d …… Jesselton Hill, sorry, a ‘no’ to me ….

  93. chan
    March 19th, 2012 at 19:31 | #93

    jz return fr the sale office. they mentioned v can depost 10k to book a house, but if nt satisfied can get full refune???? d link semi=d nw is selling 474k, but saw the built up only 900++ really a little bit small…any comment? parent is asking me to decide by tonight…=-=

  94. Alice
    March 23rd, 2012 at 18:40 | #94

    i think the house is worth to buy.
    * land area is 30 x 98. The length is long and the width is bit small
    * build-up area is 22 x 48 – equal to terrace house
    with price of about RM500K, 2940 sq feet, I think is not expensive ..

  95. Alice
    March 23rd, 2012 at 18:41 | #95

    Car porch is 30ft (great car porch)
    House is 48 ft
    Back yard is 20 ft (great back yard)
    Just that build-up is bit small

  96. chan
    March 23rd, 2012 at 20:33 | #96

    i am looking for linnk. cant really affort semi-d with 3k salary only

  97. Alice
    March 23rd, 2012 at 22:49 | #97

    with 3K salary – will be difficult to buy a house of more than 100K.

  98. ksgoh
    March 24th, 2012 at 11:01 | #98

    400k or 500k?

  99. chan
    March 24th, 2012 at 17:37 | #99

    no 400k. link semi d 468k, semi=d 568k

  100. ryu
    March 24th, 2012 at 17:55 | #100

    Location no good ! that why price is cheaper compare to others BM housing development.

  101. Alice
    March 25th, 2012 at 23:15 | #101

    The location is good. Flood free area bcos my cousin land is just beside the area. is cheap bcos the built-up area is bit small. Sample house only ready by May 2012. 45% of the house has been sold. 6 feet tall perimeter wall, with one guard house at the entrance, therefore security is good. If any one want to buy, buy before the show house is ready. RM10K discount. Good location house and non-bumi lot almost finish.

  102. Alice
    March 25th, 2012 at 23:29 | #102

    I just book Lot No. 28

  103. Alice
    March 26th, 2012 at 17:46 | #103

    The chicken farm land near the area is belong to my cousin. Many developers have approach them but they still do not want to sell the land. They are asking for RM30 per sq ft but developer just want to offer them at RM17 per sq ft

  104. Chan
    March 27th, 2012 at 08:53 | #104

    @alice, u seen so hard sell d place. btw, it is a fact that chicken farm do bring flies and hygene problem to nearby citizen. cant imagin hw wil it be when rain. when think of visitor complain about the surrounding cleanness when they come to our house,there’s gone the mood. there wil always be negotiation for the price if developer is well concern for the buyers.

  105. max
    March 29th, 2012 at 09:15 | #105

    The most critical thing even chicken farm near Pearl Villas, Pearl Garden, Pearl Indah @ Pearl City, Juru Height etc many people still buy and sold out.

  106. askforfun
    March 29th, 2012 at 09:35 | #106

    @max , sold out ,and then now they kept complaining , nonstop since house warming

  107. Chan
    March 29th, 2012 at 18:51 | #107

    jz visit their show house…really…the room very very small, even the master room….small and tiny, the chicken farm smell, OMG…i can smell it heavily….swt, gonna take bek d deposit rite forward

  108. Alice
    March 30th, 2012 at 15:18 | #108

    Chan – are you sure you visit the show house? the show house will be ready only by May 2012? Tambun bungalow also got a lot of flies — but still the rich people staying there !! Many complaint about flies — but the house there still sold like hot cake. if you don’t buy now and if the chicken farm land sold, then the houses will be very expensive. Buy house is for long term investment. Eventually, the chicken farm land will be sold .. so, don’t worry

  109. Chan
    March 30th, 2012 at 15:24 | #109

    ya…probably the chicken farm wil rebuild into 2 storey farm as they get more and more famous. i visited the show house although stil not yet completed.

  110. Alice
    March 31st, 2012 at 22:33 | #110

    Not yet launch – 67 out of 125 non-bumiputera lot have been sold (53% have been sold). those who want to buy, need to hurry up. Good location limited left ..

  111. Z
    April 9th, 2012 at 15:34 | #111

    What a fun and jokes on this project…… :-)

  112. jerry
    April 9th, 2012 at 21:32 | #112

    no one can guarantee anything to the chicken farms…there is always a risk for investment to think so…price close to half million, you really need to decide carefully…

  113. chan
    April 11th, 2012 at 10:39 | #113

    my friend doing the double track project thr. he mentioned the around is flooding always. yet, the site is far far located too inside…around 500k, too must to be concern…

  114. Alice
    April 11th, 2012 at 22:59 | #114

    the flood is at the other side – the old small industrial area .. the developer will make the land higher by 2 feet.

  115. Rocket
    April 13th, 2012 at 14:46 | #115

    I got a friend went to the chicken farm at that area for audit recently and suprising she said that there is no smelly chicken smell at the farm at all! I think the farm in that area use high-tech method to rear chicken.
    So i think it’s a good buy landed properties. Somemore it’s IJM and not the hanky panky developer.
    Price wise, i believe it will appreciate as years past and it’s a long project for IJM(100acres land). The next phase will build semi-D and bungalows. So the area will become like DNP BM Utama..classy living communities..
    Also it’s near to Juru industries and Tambun Science Park….

  116. Chan
    April 13th, 2012 at 16:11 | #116

    even flood is nt at tat particular area, but ppl living nt just staying inside the house. it is not convenience if dey have to go out else place.but most important is, the flood issue still exist! that’s d point!

  117. cl
    April 13th, 2012 at 16:52 | #117

    Any chinese primary and secondary school near by the project? Knowing that ICH and Tesco is there. Thanks

  118. BD
    April 13th, 2012 at 19:20 | #118

    Chinese primary school: Permatang Tinggi 1km, Sin Ya 2-3km.
    Chinese secondary school: Jit Sin Sg Rambai 15-20min, Jit Sin Independent 20min, future Jit Sin SPS branch 20min.
    Aeon (Jusco) also bought a piece of land opposite Tesco.

  119. cl
    April 14th, 2012 at 09:30 | #119

    BD, Thanks for good info. Look like is startegic location for the purchase.

  120. lost
    April 14th, 2012 at 23:44 | #120

    IJM developer — I think not bad. If not why penang and kl people need to queue up to buy!!

  121. Rocket
    April 16th, 2012 at 15:45 | #121

    I went past the project site yesterday and see the project is moving fast. Lanscape of the area near show house(very nice) almost done and ready for show house open in May.

    i think it’s a good buy as a reputable developer(IJM). With the price of 500K++ for a semi-D is worth especially BM area as BM area is limited land area….eventually the price of house at this project will go up in 2-3years time when the phase 1 completes…

  122. K9
    April 16th, 2012 at 16:27 | #122

    That area is considered as Permatang Tinggi, not BM area. :-) No Gated perimeter fencing and just a guarded only will cause lot of security issues later if looks on the nearby taman and surrounding areas. Wonder why IJM not make it into G&G instead?

  123. chan
    April 17th, 2012 at 20:17 | #123

    it’s a gated but not guarded concept. it has a 6ft tall concrete wall surround it in future. only residence inside the garden can use their respectively field without sharing v others. same appeal to their road. no ppl can bypass ur home unless is own neighbourhood.

  124. BD
    April 17th, 2012 at 21:00 | #124

    What u describe here is like gated & guarded with strata title, where facilities and roads inside the taman are only shared by its residents.

    As far as I know, gated community refer to gated & guarded, as it will be useless if gated but no guard, outside people and cars can still go in without guard. Whereas guarded community means guarded by guards only, where gates are illegal, but the roads and fields inside will be shared by the public.

    I also heard before that IJM plans to put surrounding gate later, may be can change to G&G later? Or just a trick to attract buyers?

  125. Alice
    April 17th, 2012 at 21:24 | #125

    I’m a buyer of Sactuary Garden. IJM do not have a plan for gated. It is only guarded. One guard house will be built at the main entrance and the residents there have to pay to the guard’s company. There are no rules imposed by IJM. Not like gated and guarded, where there tons of rules and resident have to strictly follow all the rules. Sometime, we need to have some freedom for friends/relatives to visit us. For gated & guarded, it was so inconvience for friends/relatives to pay us for a visit. With guarded, I think security is almost there. Right now, I’m also staying at a guarded taman. So far, the security is fine.

  126. Chan
    April 18th, 2012 at 08:28 | #126

    d sell person tel me that they wil construct brick fence surround it? or only my misunderstanding? for me i prefer stay within own community.imagin evy home hv frenz visit evyday and open party will only disturb the neighbourhood. if the garden is open to outsider, nxt time ppl wil bypass and use the main road and u wil many ppl else go in and out without notice…

  127. Rocket
    April 18th, 2012 at 16:05 | #127

    K9 – Permatang Tinggi is under BM area la…I live in BM for more than 30 years and i’m sure all about BM in and out…hahaha…

    Alice – totally agree with you. as a local BM, i found G&G is troublesome and i have many friends staying G&G in other taman at BM has lots of problem and lots of maintenance fee need to pay e.g. RFID card entrance, planting tree, maintains the playground,etc..G&G looks nice outside but lots of problems inside the taman.
    Hence,guarded is good enough….

  128. K9
    April 18th, 2012 at 16:36 | #128


    BD, You are absolutely right on guarded(G) only and guarded with guarded(G&G) concept ! :) only G&G with strata tile can have perimeter gate, just guarded without gated will create lot of issue when/if nearby empty land are not belong to IJM and with other developer’s hand. Juru Height is one of the good example here ! You can see a small guard house with no security guard there now, this is due to other developers developed the nearby empty land and somehow make the roads there connected to other tamans. So no use to place a security guard there and that’s why sometimes we can see the security guard and sometimes no.
    Another example is BM utama, now DNP still maintain the landscaping for whole tamans there because of they’re still having Phase 3 project there, eventually the landscaping will be surrenderred to MPSP one day, due to the Tamans there are all just a guarded only concept, do you think MPSP will maintain property the landscaping after developer? ;). This is questionable !……. :) and there’re still lot of empty land nearby its phase 3 :) .. That is questionable too !

    Ya, simpang empat and may be Tambun also under BM ! 😉

  129. lost
    April 18th, 2012 at 23:25 | #129

    Do you think that Gated and Guarded don’t have problem? Gated and Guarded have a lot rules, do you think people will follow rules?

  130. monica
    April 18th, 2012 at 23:32 | #130

    if owner buy a house with GnG, they must follow the rules & regulations, this is common sense to follow before making decision. If wanna freedom, just buy a house without GnG or buy piece of land & build & design own house.

  131. Alice
    April 19th, 2012 at 07:18 | #131

    why should you spend so much of $$ and then you let the rules & regulations to control your freedom and lives ? Our lives are meaningless if everything is controlled. Like OV gated & guarded, cannot have pets, road is only 24feet, cannot plant your own tree and etc .. next time, I think durian also G&G will banned.

  132. Alice
    April 19th, 2012 at 07:22 | #132

    live at G&G house, your friends and relatives will slowly distance away from you. they don’t have the freedom to visit us anymore. ONLY Penang island people can accept the G&G house concept bcos they have been staying in pigeon house for long time with all rules & regulations similar to G&G.

  133. BD
    April 19th, 2012 at 09:13 | #133

    If u want maximum security (G&G), you need to sacrifice some freedom (follow rules).
    If u want more freedom (guarded only), you need to sacrifice some security.

    Anyway, guarded only is better than no security at all. This depends on each person’s preference. Some may think that guarded is enough for them to have a peace of mind. Some people choose G&G not only for security reason, but also the uniformity of the houses exterior which looks tidy and nice to them.

    By right for guarded only community, not only no perimeter gates are allowed, road block with boom gates etc are also not allowed. You can have a guard house there but the guard cannot ask u to stop or prohibit u from entering the housing area. The guards can only roam around to discourage thieves to break in the houses.

    For BM Utama, I know that there’s a boom gate set up there, perhaps the area is still under DNP’s management? If follow the law strictly, it’s illegal. However, there may be many housing area which is not G&G but also set up boom gate/fence, esp Klang valley area. If no one complains, then usually one eye closed…

  134. BD
    April 19th, 2012 at 09:17 | #134

    Simpang Ampat is in Seb Perai Selatan, thus not in BM. Tambun, Tasek and even Batu Kawan are under Simpang Ampat :)

  135. K9
    April 19th, 2012 at 09:27 | #135

    Ya, i know. I just joking to @Rocket :) . Thanks.

  136. BD
    April 19th, 2012 at 09:36 | #136

    OIC 😉

  137. K9
    April 19th, 2012 at 10:22 | #137

    No doubt G&G will have problem too especially when some of the residents starting not following the rules and JMC not strictly enforce the rules. But if buyer plan to buy G&G for own stay purpose, normally they will first check with developer on do and don’t. If they forgot to check on that part, then they will be “alerted” by lawyer during signing S&P too, because beside signing S&P they’re require to sign another agreement called “Deed of Mutual” agreement, the do and don’t will be stated in that agreement. if the buyer already know the rules before signing S&P, and they still buy it, that is mean they’re fine to have that rules in place. 😉 if not, why they still buy it?

    For G&G concept house, the obvious “punishment” that management office did to the hardcore resident who are few times breaking rule was inactivate their car’s access card, after several warning letter sent to them of course. :)

    if buyer think they cannot accept the rules written in the Deed of Mutual’s agreement, then G&G definitely will not suit them. But if buyer think that the rules can make the whole G&G community & environment looks nice, neat and will be more safety in term of security/traffic, then G&G is a good choice to them.

    p/s: JMC that voted by residents has right to remove or add the rules in the agreement. The buyer can be one of the JMC member so that they will have voting power on remove or addin the new rules later on!

  138. Rocket
    April 19th, 2012 at 11:56 | #138

    @K9, you are indeed a big joker all time! :)

    @Alice, i totally agreed with you. G&G is like a pigeon house to me…sorry to G&G supporter, no offense la…hehehe…

  139. Chan
    April 19th, 2012 at 16:50 | #139

    i don think is necessary to discus anyone preferance G&G or G concept, it’s much more important to determine wat concept tis development is using. will visit their sale office again tis few days and confirm about the existing of surrounding wall.

  140. Home
    April 20th, 2012 at 00:23 | #140

    When to sign S n P? I heard that units that facing garden is more expensive.

  141. Rocket
    April 20th, 2012 at 11:55 | #141

    SnP signing will be in May…the show house also will ready in May..

    Yup, facing garden is ranging from 550K – 650K for semi D detached.

    You can go to the IJM sale office at Rozhan road to check out…

    I heard left 30% units only for phase 1. If you can wait, the 30% Bumi lot will be release after 80% completion and by that time, i bet the price is sky rocket! 😀

  142. Gupta
    April 20th, 2012 at 12:24 | #142

    went to the site, got smelly “aroma” believe came fr chicken farm nearby, saw lot of bangla at nearby old shops…………………….regret! further checked with IJM sales rep, just guarded only without any CCTVs, the project got around 7 phases, security issue will be a major problem in future if just guarded only, no gated perimeter, clever’s bangla can easily find other routes to enter this taman in future………..regret again! But ……………….luckily yet to buy ! :)

  143. Chan
    April 20th, 2012 at 13:31 | #143

    izit the smelly aroma serious?yet,do they confirm wont have any fencing surrounding?i think d guarded only available 2years under developer,if in future no any contribution from the community inside, it wont have any guarded concept anymore…talked about the bangla, that’s d most issue concern about.i don like ppl sharing & bypass my garden as it wil low down our privacy but i also nt prefer it is a G&G concept as i nt willing to pay d monthly fees…

  144. Gupta
    April 20th, 2012 at 15:44 | #144

    @Chan, sometime felt strong chicken smell, sometimes okay. think this depend on the wind’s direction and wind’s size…..regret!….sales rep told me lanscape will pass to mpsp after whole project completed, guard service will pass to RT – Rukun Tetangga that will be formed by residents. During that time, RT will collect money from residents on monthly basis for paying security guard. Depend on how much the monthly maintenance fees, if more, then can hire garderner to maintain the landscape, if less and not enough money, then need to depend on mpsp’s grass cutter…..regret again !…f residents there not willing to pay monthly fees, some pay some not pay, then will be no guard and no gardener….reason is the resident that willing to pay will become unwilling to pay when see their neighbour not pa ……..after heard on this……more regret!… ….seem like this guarded only project need to pay monthly fees also, eventually will be like a GnG…….like that better buy GnG straight away !

  145. BD
    April 20th, 2012 at 16:14 | #145

    Why do u keep on shouting regret since you are yet to buy? Then what project do you think is good?

  146. Chan
    April 20th, 2012 at 16:29 | #146

    later wil go to check out the site. if really no fencing around which has little bit help to block the chicken farm smell, and horrible maintanance system, what can do is wait for the show house and take bek the deposit if not satisfied!!! if like this 450++k for tis concept is totally not worth!!

  147. Gupta
    April 20th, 2012 at 16:57 | #147

    @BD, I plan to buy this project before i went to see the site, frens told me developer is IJM land, i thought developer good, location should good also. I reserved it and paid bridge toll and went there. After survey the site, really regret! not sure i can take back full amount of deposit now!

    @Chan, you sure we can take back full amount of our deposit if not satified ? advise please?

  148. Chan
    April 20th, 2012 at 17:02 | #148

    yup. the reservation letter write very clearly ful amount refund before signing s&p. there’s some problem list down which under concern.
    1.chicken farm
    2.bangla worker(security)
    4.location far fr city
    6.future development
    8.conveniency (skol, jusco confirm???)

  149. Gupta
    April 20th, 2012 at 17:06 | #149

    @BD, Are you one of the buyer here? Do you have good housing landed project to introduce me at mainland? I’m from island, looking for own stay with family. Tqs.

  150. Gupta
    April 20th, 2012 at 17:09 | #150

    @Chan, will go back check the reserve letter. Tqs.

  151. JJ
    April 20th, 2012 at 18:14 | #151

    You may consider Orang Villa at BMM. It is GnG concept….

  152. BD
    April 20th, 2012 at 23:26 | #152

    I’m not a buyer. You said earlier that luckily u didn’t buy but suddenly u said that u already paid booking fee, that’s why i’m confused. You are quite “brave” as u can just place your booking just because of IJM brand, without even going to the site sales office to look around. Base on your demand, you can consider Orange Villa/Palm villa like JJ mentioned.

  153. lost
    April 21st, 2012 at 01:10 | #153

    chicken farm – yes, there are many chicken around that area.
    Bangla Worker – yes, there are bangla there but this is guarded – should. Pay as you like no forcing
    Flood – this is not a flood area
    Location far from city – near to 2nd Bridge, 5km to Auto-City, 5km to BM town
    Price – very reasonable bcos the land is spacious, can park at least 4 cars
    Future development – this is going to be the most developed area in the future
    Access – easy
    School – 2 Chinese Primary School – 1KM and 2KM, 5KM Jit Sin High School and 8 KM new Jit Sin High School

  154. lost
    April 21st, 2012 at 01:12 | #154

    Orange Villa house is terrible — go see the show house by yourself – sure you pengsan

  155. Chan
    April 21st, 2012 at 08:13 | #155

    chicken farm and bangla, the most serious problem for any development..tat’s why i nv think about juru area.for flood, i can even show a lots of pic taken last year during April how terrible the flood is in front of tat area.for price, is better to hv a bigger built up rather den car pouch & 5km for a skol is really quite far away…no offense, i share my opinion jz to make myself clear about the site condition.

  156. Chan
    April 21st, 2012 at 13:52 | #156

    went to the office jz now. confirm dey wil built a 7ft brick wall surround the garden. the raod wil be share within outsider, but guard house stil depend community wana form or not. only hv plastering at 2nd floor and inprint tile for carpouch. the wall between neighbour only 5ft. wiring and tnb cable is underground. IJM wil maintain the garden for 5 years. currently site is doing earth filling while waiting for piling contractor to come in. show house and s&P wil be ready end of may’12

  157. lost
    April 21st, 2012 at 14:19 | #157

    don’t worry about the chicken farm — sooner or later the land will be sold. Flood area is at Taman Impian (the oldest housing area at Taman Impian) due to the old area do not have retention pond. For this new taman, there is a big retention pond. So, the chances of getting flood is low.

    5KM is to school is not far lah. we all cars, school buses and vans. If you are looking for school near to the house, then I recommend you to buy Orange Villa — just walking distance —

    bigger car porch are also important. most of the neighbours quarrel bcos of car park issue. nowadays, one house have at least 2 cars and when the children grow up, then need 3 or 4 cars. this is the issue that I have today. I have a 3rd car for my son, but I don’t have space to park. the 3rd car must park outside that causes neighbours not happy.

  158. lost
    April 21st, 2012 at 14:27 | #158

    Right now, I stay at Desa Palma and the community here just hire guard (24 x 7) to take care of the taman. we don’t have a community to take care of the guards. The guard company will take care the guards. We just pay to the guard company. Not all people are paying but we community here are OK. The community here are not that calculative.

    5ft wall between neighbour should be OK already — 6ft is no good as we can’t see the neighbours and feng shui will also no good.

    1st floor don’t have plastering is OK bcos usually people want to have their own plastering design/pattern

  159. kanasai
    April 21st, 2012 at 14:33 | #159

    after 5 years, ijm out from this project, residents will maintain whole tamans, not that easy to collect $$ from other residents to maintain whole phases of taman, i foress have issues in future. The road will share with outsider, then have a guard there for what then? useless la..i won’t pay maintenance fees if no force…hehe..

  160. Chan
    April 21st, 2012 at 15:07 | #160


    i stay beside desa palma as well. i saw the guard thr. they quite rajin ronda,but probably jz pattern only.it is clearly observe that desa palma road has soon become main road as all the car passby.the community face the problem when dey ned to go out fr their house as many car cross over.can c tat the field in ur garden is become very terrible nowadays.

    i’ve no problem v d finishes, jz not so confortable with the room size and space..

  161. lost
    April 21st, 2012 at 19:28 | #161

    Desa Palma road is opened not like Sactuary where Sactuary road are all end-road. This make Sactuary better than Desa Palma. Anyway, Desa Palma used to issue with snatch thieves and break-in but we put guard all this issues goes away.

  162. lost
    April 21st, 2012 at 19:30 | #162

    there is no monthly maintenance fee and why should we take care of the taman. Like any other taman, MPSP is taking care of them

  163. kanasai
    April 21st, 2012 at 22:09 | #163

    if just depend on MPSP to maintain the landscaping, the original beautiful and nice landscape will sure koyak one….MPSP normally will just cut the grass and they won’t sweep, collect it into plastic bag after cutting..i saw my taman landscape is like that now..originally nice looks landscaping became bushes already..i’m not interested to this project anymore if like that… :(

  164. lost
    April 22nd, 2012 at 13:18 | #164

    landscaping to me is least important – as long as the grass are cut by MPSP frequently is fine for me. in this case, you need to choose Gated & Guarded house where you have to pay monthly maintenance for the pool, landscaping, guard and etc. Not expensive maintenance. Around RM150 per month — and will increase as years goes by.

  165. Tan Pek
    April 22nd, 2012 at 15:50 | #165

    lost :
    Orange Villa house is terrible — go see the show house by yourself – sure you pengsan

    Halo, be careful t hav neighbor like ‘lost’. Pls go n see his comments in Orange Villa, 2heads snake….haha…

  166. lost
    April 22nd, 2012 at 21:18 | #166

    Tan Pek :

    lost :@JJ Orange Villa house is terrible — go see the show house by yourself – sure you pengsan

    Halo, be careful t hav neighbor like ‘lost’. Pls go n see his comments in Orange Villa, 2heads snake….haha…

    well, I already bought orange villa house and I’m just telling the truth. I regret buying the house. that’s why there are a lot of negative comments on Orange villa — you can read it yourself …

  167. lim construction
    April 22nd, 2012 at 21:52 | #167

    Yes i also respect them as a human. Hope some buyer here can rent a house to them..anyway i still believe with Ijm reputation even still no show house.

  168. Mr. Teh
    April 22nd, 2012 at 23:14 | #168

    i believe “lost” is the salesperson for this permatang sanctuary project. He/she always promote this project unreasonably. If u notice, he/she likes to sabotaj other projects in penang as he always talk bad about them. LAME tactic!

  169. lim construction
    April 23rd, 2012 at 08:37 | #169

    Bangla and farm will be an issue. Only gated community can stop bangla/foreign people from living in the community. They now also have a high taste like local people, no longer living in the flat, low cost flat or old single storey terrace house. At Juru now they live in new semi-detached two-storey and double storey terrace. Some place have to accept them as part of the community. Guarded community cannot block them in.

  170. Getlost
    April 23rd, 2012 at 09:26 | #170


    You better get lost !! people won’t trust your comments anymore. I dislike this kind of 2 heads people, as a permatang buyer, i shame on what you did lo.. :(

  171. shooter
    April 23rd, 2012 at 15:04 | #171

    There’s no “free lunch” in this world ! if you want your taman safety and always in beautiful looks, then you would need to pay for it after developer passed the taman to mpsp in the future ! if you’re just depend on mpsp, then do you think your taman will always look nice ? i don’t think so.

    if our neigbours mostly like you, not willing to pay for monthly maintenance fees for the guard service and lanscaping maintenance in future, then the beautiful landscaping that built by ijm sure will become bushes one day when developer completed the project and move out from there. May be we will also see banglas who stayed at nearby gathering there, swimming and picnic at around the big retention pond/playground. :(

    @Lost – if you haven’t bought a unit here, then pease don’t buy it, we don’t want selfish neighbour with us too !

  172. chan
    April 23rd, 2012 at 18:03 | #172

    to those buyer, can share v me why u choose tis development? and anything which take ur attention or any problem u may concern? thanks.

  173. wood
    April 23rd, 2012 at 21:16 | #173


    Negative side on guarded only development:
    1. No gated, the guard no right to block outsider to use the main and internal roads as those roads are not belong to the permatang santuary’s community, in fact the roads are belong to MPSP.
    2. Smelly chicken farm nearby
    3. The development not in strategic location.
    4. last time is one of the flood areas, that is why developer plan for big retention pond there.
    5. All landscapings will be maintained by MPSP in future, it may become mosquito – aedes’s home if MPSP not come on time to cut the bush/grass. Retention ponds might become Aedes’s home too.
    6. Hard to collect money for paying the guard services, not all residents willing to pay due to no enforcement on monthly maintenace fees.
    7. Traffic always congested during office hours from Juru’s main road to permatang tinggi, you can take other routes with longer distance, waste time and money.
    8. Nearby old taman and shops lot filled with lot of banglas, will create security issues.
    9. Semi-D with terrace’s build up only.
    10. Residents can re-design their house external outlook such as repainting with the color they like, build addtional external partial of building and so on, the outlook of whole taman not neat.
    11. Pet’a poof such as dog’s poof will be here and there at roads and play ground or front of house, the poof might come from the house’s dogs/cats, wild dogs/cats later on.
    12.The guard house at main road or internal road can be demolished by MPSP if getting complaint from outsider or nearby residents.
    13.Seem likes nearby tis development still have empty land, if it is own by other developer in future, then potential re-open the end road of this taman is higher.

    Positve side:
    1. IJM is a branded developer, no doubt on house’s quality and material.
    2. Cheaper house price.
    3. Resident no need to follow the rules cause this is not GnG development.
    4. No need to pay monthly maintenance fees for maintaining landscaping, retention pond, roads, guard services and so on.
    5. Resident can repaint their house with the color they like or demolish whole house and rebuild it if they not like the current house design, provided they’re rich enough to do that.
    6. 10mins to Tesco and future Jusco.

    summ: Negative side(13 pts) more than Postive side(6 pts). Buy or not buy, you make the call ! 😉

  174. lost
    April 23rd, 2012 at 21:52 | #174

    lim construction :Bangla and farm will be an issue. Only gated community can stop bangla/foreign people from living in the community. They now also have a high taste like local people, no longer living in the flat, low cost flat or old single storey terrace house. At Juru now they live in new semi-detached two-storey and double storey terrace. Some place have to accept them as part of the community. Guarded community cannot block them in.

    Guarded and Gated taman also can rent the house to banglas or to any foreigners

  175. lost
    April 23rd, 2012 at 21:54 | #175

    don’t listen to other. If you think, you like the place, just go and buy. IJM developer can be trusted

  176. lost
    April 23rd, 2012 at 21:55 | #176

    please don’t scare people from buying the house in this taman.

  177. lost
    April 23rd, 2012 at 21:59 | #177

    ha ha – you don’t own the area. so, you cannot force people to pay for maintenance fees, security guard and etc. if you like to pay for all these fees, then, please join me at Orange Villa where it is complusory to pay for the maintenance fee. this taman is not suitable for you lah — go buy gated and guarded house lah ..

  178. lost
    April 23rd, 2012 at 22:00 | #178

    @Mr. Teh
    i’m not a sales person. I’m property buyer

  179. lost
    April 23rd, 2012 at 22:04 | #179

    @lim construction
    btw – i also have a double storey terrace house that i rent to banglas. their boss paid RM800/= for the rental — so why not rent to them. if rent to locals, highest i can get is only RM650. he he . . .

  180. Chan
    April 24th, 2012 at 09:03 | #180

    it is hope tat this 7 phase project can make the situation there better. As it’s consider as major development also, i think IJM should has some planning to upgrade the surrounding area.what really attract me is the move in of JUSCO and DNP commercial hub.ppl are affortable to buy 400k house, think should hv no problem to keep their garden clean and safe by paying some fee. but who noes, if future the place is left empty and less permanent resident staying, everything jz talking air and waste…

  181. BD
    April 24th, 2012 at 12:09 | #181

    I think Mr lost is just giving moderate comments here.

    Mr Wood gives a good review on this project.

  182. BD
    April 24th, 2012 at 12:20 | #182


    Alma is designated as a Pusat Petempatan Utama, where most of the future housing area will be concentrated here. That’s why Tesco & Jusco chose this area. If you don’t buy now and plan to buy later, almost certainly the price your going to pay will be higher than this, at least for the next few years. When IJM launch 2nd phase up to phase 7 later, surely the price will be higher. If u can accept its concept of not being a G&G, then it’s ok.

  183. Gupta
    April 24th, 2012 at 14:00 | #183

    Went to orange villa’s site last weekend, location good behind state goverment’s office, GnG concept and show house not bad, looks big, grand and class. not many units left, at first plan to buy, asked sales rep how many buyers are from indian and malay, the answer is 0%, sales rep said buyers are 100% chinese as of now, i think will have problem to my family if i buy later on, cause only me indian family there. so not place deposit yet after think twice.

    Forgot to ask Permatang santuary’s sales rep on have indian family there, anyone know how many % of indian or malay bought Permatang santuary as of now? advise please? may be need to looks back Permatang santuary.

  184. Chan
    April 24th, 2012 at 14:44 | #184

    So far malay 1 place deposit, Indian I think around 5.my lot neighbour Indian also…..

  185. lost
    April 24th, 2012 at 22:11 | #185

    my current neigbbour is also Indian and we get along very well. One good thing is that, when I scold my children or quarrel with wife, my neighbour don’t understand – vice versa .. ha ha

  186. lost
    April 24th, 2012 at 22:23 | #186

    IJM project had made a lot of rich people getting richer. During the soft launch, IJM invited their existing customer and gave RM20K discount. These buyer already automatically gain RM20K profit, if they sell the house after the launching. If you have $$ and dare to take challenges, go ahead and buy. I personally have bought 2 houses.

  187. lim construction
    April 25th, 2012 at 08:12 | #187

    that is the reason why you support foreigners. Are this house also will be rent to foreigners? If yes, unlucky for those neighbour with you

  188. Gupta
    April 25th, 2012 at 17:46 | #188

    lost :@Gupta my current neigbbour is also Indian and we get along very well. One good thing is that, when I scold my children or quarrel with wife, my neighbour don’t understand – vice versa .. ha ha

    If neighbour Indian sure OK, If neighbour Malay or Chinese, OK to me too. But if neighbour are banglas, then better not.

  189. lost
    April 25th, 2012 at 18:50 | #189

    @lim construction
    rental is all about making money. if foreigners can pay you better than the local, why not rent to them. also, without foeigners working here, do you think there are houses for you to buy?? also, do not discriminate them. Do you listen to 1FM advertisement talking about foreigners ? if no, then, go listen.

  190. johnny
    April 27th, 2012 at 00:24 | #190

    Since a lot of development around the area, Banglas will be here to work for some time….but in time, they will move out. Secondly, this project only have semi-d upwards. In time, it will be known as prime development area as development progresses. In future likely to have more appreciation with the landscaping taking shape. Someone also said the chicken farm uses high tech method, not much smell. So it is manageable. In time, the price of land will be so high, it is better for owner to sell the land than to rear chickens for a living. So, it depends on whether you think long term or not. Short term, don’t buy. Long term, worth considering.

  191. Chan
    April 27th, 2012 at 08:39 | #191

    anyhow, the surrounding ade nt much changes. it’s depend an individu can accept it or not. by nw only wait until the completion of show house to c either it’s fulfil our requirement. my banker nw ade rushing me to sign d bank doc…=-=

  192. johnny
    April 27th, 2012 at 18:23 | #192

    There will be a new access road into the taman, further up beyond the current Asas Dunia development (messy) that will take you through the show village into Phase 1. So, out of sight, out of mind and you will be greeted by some nice landscaping. At least then, one can avoid the “mess” that so many are disgusted with. The new access will form a first good impression for anyone who enters Permatang Sanctuary. Hopefully the taman will really live up to its name called “sanctuary”. The 7ft perimeter brick wall will also give the taman a little privacy, not necessarily secure as it is only guarded. If choosing a unit with a dead end road, then no need to worry too much about disturbance from through traffic. Knowing IJM, I believe they will do a good job on the total landscaping and make this a pleasant hideout. Taken as a whole, it is a well planned taman.

  193. lost
    April 27th, 2012 at 20:26 | #193

    totally agree with what you say — look like you are the salesman there . .

  194. johnny
    April 29th, 2012 at 21:33 | #194

    It doesn’t really matter what we say or who we are. It’s all property talk and everybody has opinions….the good and the bad. The facts of the day is what matters. The success of the project depends on the demand…..and the take-up rate will speak for itself.

  195. K2
    May 10th, 2012 at 02:26 | #195

    Jz get update from the SA, S&P signing will have delay since they have authorized problem in Land Office. They said maybe due to election which is jz around the corner. Hence, the show house also will ready by June (Promise earlier is by Apr/May). Guess we all just need to wait. Anyone here that had place booking? Mind to share which unit? Get to know each other cause soon we gonna be neighbor ady. Lol…

  196. Chan
    May 10th, 2012 at 13:42 | #196

    i when to site last week, saw d link semi-D is painted but the semi-d stil on brickwall only. the lanscaping i think only 30% completed.a way far from completion. for sure the show house opening wil be delay. one think to emphasis, the flies issue stil very serious. once i open my car window, the flies straight fly in. very anoying. really don hope i hv to seal my house in future to prevent this….

  197. KK447
    May 10th, 2012 at 14:06 | #197

    Pls go and see the Wiki Map, you will know how many Chicken, Pig, Duck farm are surrounding. That when i am not bring although tempted. Finally i bought Orange Villa.

  198. ck wong
    May 10th, 2012 at 14:32 | #198

    KK447 :
    Pls go and see the Wiki Map, you will know how many Chicken, Pig, Duck farm are surrounding. That when i am not bring although tempted. Finally i bought Orange Villa.

    hi KK447, since you have bought OV, join the purchase club to support the team.. i wish i could be part of the team soon.

  199. KK447
    May 10th, 2012 at 15:42 | #199

    i saw the email from OrangeManic, will drop a mail to her. Sorry, should not talk in Permatang Site.

  200. K2
    May 10th, 2012 at 23:59 | #200

    What time of the day you went? I went thr few times but never have that flies prob and also no smell from the chicken poultry. It seem very clean when pass by. Maybe is due to construction site insects is still a lot. Jz wait till its completed. I guess environment will change when next phase coming after all 100 hectar of forest had been cleared. Yea,kinda delay in progress for the show house… But no point to rush since S&P is not ready for stamping yet. Which unit did u book?

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