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Siara 81

March 31st, 2011 Leave a comment

Siara 81 is located within the established township of Sungai Ara, Penang. This residential property development comprises 6 units 2-storey semi-detached and 75 units of terrace houses.

Property Project : Siara 81
Location : Sungai Ara, Penang
Property Type : 2-Storey Terrace & Semi-Detached
Tenure : Freehold
Total Units : 6 (Semi-D), 75 (Terrace)
Developer : Iconic Properties Sdn. Bhd.
Contact No: 04-228 2285

Indicative Price: RM 798,000 onwards

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  1. Jason
    April 7th, 2011 at 20:26 | #1

    Any body knows the build up area?

    • Ken (Admin)
      Site Owner
      April 8th, 2011 at 11:04 | #2

      I’m not very sure. Why not call up the developer and let everyone know here? :)

  2. Puto
    April 25th, 2011 at 09:55 | #3

    no photo yet?

  3. Ken (Admin)
    PPTalk Admin
    April 25th, 2011 at 12:41 | #4

    Called the developer. No photo yet. :(

  4. Bob
    April 26th, 2011 at 10:37 | #5

    land area for the terrace is 1400sqf
    build-up appears to be 2000sqf (20×50 each floor)

  5. Ken (Admin)
    PPTalk Admin
    April 26th, 2011 at 14:23 | #6

    @Bob
    Thanks for the info. That means there is no backyard, and car porch only 20ft.
    50ft length is good. You will get a bigger house

  6. T
    April 26th, 2011 at 21:15 | #7

    where does it located exactly? possible pricing?

  7. eric
    April 26th, 2011 at 21:25 | #8

    wah, BU=2000sqft, spacious build up. Anyone know the exactly location in sg ara? hard to find 2 storey in penang now.

  8. Jason
    April 26th, 2011 at 23:11 | #9

    Near to setia green.

  9. Ken (Admin)
    PPTalk Admin
    April 26th, 2011 at 23:56 | #10

    @T
    Price is 798k onwards

  10. Pg1
    April 27th, 2011 at 12:01 | #11

    anyone kon when is the exact launching ? or soft launch ?

  11. Jason
    April 27th, 2011 at 16:50 | #12

    Prestige V (batu maung) versus Siara 81( sg ara).. which one more value to purchase in term of location and pricing ??

  12. eric
    April 27th, 2011 at 17:20 | #13

    Jason, it’s depend on individual preference. I don’t prefer the area near to cherry blosom there as that area congested with the existing residential there together with upcoming idaman cempaka, idaman iris, zan pavillion, setia green, tgt, riverside….. i prefer PV as close to 2nd link and township development by mahsing. On the other hand, some people might worry on congestion at the area near to 2nd link as well.. so depend … :)

  13. Ken (Admin)
    PPTalk Admin
    April 27th, 2011 at 21:06 | #14

    By the way, there will be a new road directly connecting from SPI traffic light to Jln Tun Dr. Awang later. May be you can come from that route :)

  14. Jason
    April 28th, 2011 at 21:01 | #15

    The show room for the Siara 81 will be available some where around May this year….

  15. Johnny
    May 2nd, 2011 at 19:57 | #16

    The show room is in progress. Maybe it available to view in two weeks time.

  16. Ken (Admin)
    PPTalk Admin
    May 2nd, 2011 at 20:40 | #17

    Great! Must go and have a look :)

  17. Johnny
    May 3rd, 2011 at 20:29 | #18

    I already puchased one unit 2 weeks ago. Hurry up! Developer told me only few units left.

  18. Ken (Admin)
    PPTalk Admin
    May 3rd, 2011 at 20:38 | #19

    @Johnny
    If anyone has the brochure, can you scan and send it to penangpropertytalk@gmail.com? I’ll upload here and share with others.

    Thanks :)

  19. Jason
    May 3rd, 2011 at 21:07 | #20

    Johnny,
    what is your purchase price ?? i heard that is 798k.. right ? will developer cover S&P and housing loan legal free ??

  20. Ken (Admin)
    PPTalk Admin
    May 4th, 2011 at 12:21 | #21

    Now updated with photos! :)

  21. Enn
    May 4th, 2011 at 15:46 | #22

    yup,i also interested for Stamp duty,S&P and Legal free,will it cover by developer…if yes,total price will different 20k……..

  22. dunno
    May 5th, 2011 at 06:43 | #23

    I just don’t understand. this kind of project is :-

    1) no garden
    2) not guarded
    3) unknown developer (quality concern)
    4) expensive as existing SPI (~800k), almost same price, 2.5 storey SPI, spacious

    why some ppl still go for it? for speculate, investing?? i know definately not for own stay

  23. Ken (Admin)
    PPTalk Admin
    May 5th, 2011 at 17:58 | #24

    @dunno
    As long as the buyer happy, why not :). Everyone has their personal preference. They just like the place, either for own stay or investment.

  24. Johnny
    May 5th, 2011 at 21:47 | #25

    Developer bear 60% of processing S&P fees.

  25. Johnny
    May 5th, 2011 at 21:59 | #26

    i feel worth than SP setia 2.5 storey because no need to pay maintenance fees. A lot of ppl don’t like 2.5 storey because master room at top level. Some ppl feel tired to climp up stair to master room. In future, i feel 2 storey house value worth than 2.5 storey.
    If you choose like have guarded and garden, i will recommend you go for condo or apartment. There you also can enjoy summing pool. PPl buy landed house because to avoid maintenance fees.

  26. kenny
    May 5th, 2011 at 22:33 | #27

    i viewed the sample house ( 60% completion ). not bad of quality :-)

  27. kenny
    May 5th, 2011 at 22:35 | #28

    i kind of interest.. but worry about location.. can everyone comment about the place ??

  28. dunno
    May 6th, 2011 at 12:46 | #29

    Kenny, Johnny.Enn,
    are you buying for speculation? if yes, good luck, the property bubble is almost over at penang. predict bubble burst ~2014. hope you still can make it.

    oo..btw, forgot to tell you. nowaday you can easily buy a landed house, but not easy to sell. unless your project is good location, good env like southday and SPI.

  29. Enn
    May 6th, 2011 at 14:04 | #30

    I will consider this units,just only due to my own preference as below:-

    -Double story with no backyard so can come to built up area 2000sqft (better that 3-story with same built up).
    -Surrounded by 50% landed and 50% condo/apartment.
    -~800K for landed is under my expectation.

  30. kenny
    May 6th, 2011 at 16:36 | #31

    Today, penang will hardly to get 2-story with spacious build up. For my own opinion, 800k for landed at island consider reasonable if comparing to singapore, HK….etc. again, this is only my view :-).

  31. Johnny
    May 7th, 2011 at 03:18 | #32

    Siara 81 is individual title, where southbay and one residence are stratitle. In long run, those individual title land are more value. We must consider this item when buy property.

  32. Dunno
    May 7th, 2011 at 16:19 | #33

    dun you guys feel un-secure when staying in such an expensive house with a proper guard/security? Especially if your family size is small (like less than 5).

    Hi Kenny,
    800k for landed in island consider reasonable? i doubt so, Penang island got nothing to justify for higher property price. Not like KL, KL development is keeped going, somemore now they are talking about MRT, greater KL..bla bla bla…the whole country’s tax money dump to KL. tell me, what do we have for Penang? Some factories and bridges? how to trigger penang economic like that.

    Hi Johnny,
    I dun agree with your tot, will that make a different if you are holding idividual or strate title? will you hard to sell due to that? will your house quality not same? if you go to KL take a look, which type of property is more “LAKU”. all is gated/guarded property. One of the reason is crime rate in KL is high, but i dun see it is low in Penang as well. Btw SPI is indivdual title.

  33. Dummie
    May 8th, 2011 at 12:58 | #34

    Agree with Dunno ..
    The property price has shot up more than 50% in two three years time..
    last year dec, i called an agent for a property,she said 350k , i said “deal”.
    but need one to two weeks time to do the background checking.
    After two weeks i called the agent again, she said 380k.
    I was angry and asked her how come?she told me that it was the current market price. and other buyer just offered that.
    Well, I said non sense and suspected she was frying the price , therefore called off the deal.

    today the property is still for sale , but the price has re-quoted to 420k.

    so my question is, Does it worth?Who is the last sucker.
    when is the bubble going to burst?

  34. dunno
    May 8th, 2011 at 14:28 | #35

    Banker and developers are the happiest when the price shot up. Why? you and I know that.
    1) for developer, it is straight fwd, higher price, higher profit, they care nothing on their project (quality, env, security) as long as someone commit and buy it once launch, thats all, done deal, money earn into their pocket even market crash on next month or next day. If raw material price shot up, they will cut material or use low end material. but if the raw material price go down, they do nothing.

    2) for banker, higher property price means higher bank loan amount taken by buyer/investor (assume most of the ppl take bank loan), that translates to earn more for bank.

    Beside SPI, SouthBay, One residences, i have no idea where can i find the best property –
    (price/security/env/quality).

  35. Johnny
    May 8th, 2011 at 23:23 | #36

    I don’t think SP setia is good place. Do you notice why so many ppl want to sell? If you want to know details, please go have a look. KL cannot compare with Penang island. KL have very very big land where Penang island short of land. Penang island is very similar like Singapore or Hong Kong. That why Penang landed house is most expensive in Malaysia.

    Hi Dunno, i suggest you wait until property burst only buy…..
    Stratitle mean you own the house but not own land. It same with you buy a apartment/Condo.

  36. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    May 9th, 2011 at 10:01 | #37

    @Johnny
    Actually because SPI is a large project with hundreds unit of terraces & semi-D, it is no surprise that you see more units for sale compare to a smaller project. I have a few friends who were trying to buy a unit there, they are having difficulty to find a good unit.

    It is ideal that we wait for property burst before we buy, but I think most people worry what if it doesn’t burst? Investor can wait, but not genuine home buyer. Some people need a house to settle down for his family, some are hoping to get a house and get married :)

  37. FireDragon
    May 9th, 2011 at 11:17 | #38

    @Dunno. I agree with what has Johnny mentioned. Strata title means that you do not own the land. The developer may deposit the master title to bank to get loan/funding for their future projects. The worst is what if the developer file bankrupsy as what has happened to Pernas at N-park? SPI & Soutbay should be less worried since they are strong foundamental developer. Watchup for One Resisdence. Ideal have bad reputation before. Think twice.

  38. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    May 9th, 2011 at 12:03 | #39

    @FireDragon
    Actually once the Strata title is issued and registered under your name, then you can sell the property without the consent of the developer. With good developer, you will usually get your strata title within 3 years.

    What happen to N-park is that Pernas bankrupt before the strata title being issued to the individual owner.

  39. dunno
    May 9th, 2011 at 14:05 | #40

    Hey Johhny, lot people sell their unit doesn’t mean the project is not good. nowaday, most of the buyers are speculator and wish to sell their units quickly after OC. SPI is the 1st big landed project in Penang Island (>600 units launched), in term of ratio, definitely more units for sale in the market. As long as the price is good, i think SPI is still good to buy.
    -Freehold : no issue like what you said on land ownership concern
    -House ready: no need to wait for 2 years
    -good price: relative cheap compare to siarra81 2 storey vs SPI 2.5 storey.
    -good env: security, elavated landed, nice landscape.

    Unless you are talking about want to speculate, then SPI maybe not that ideal candidate

  40. Johnny
    May 9th, 2011 at 21:50 | #41

    Hi Dunno,
    I don’t think SPI sell at good price. Now you can easily get 750K to 800K. Do you know why they rush to sell? Because i heard developer gave 2 years maintenance fee free. After that they have to pay maintenance fees. That why a lot investor start to sell now. Usually big project cannot sell at good price reason because too congested.
    I agree with FireDragon on bad reputation of Ideal. This company has financial problem before it changed company name to Ideal after this. Big company does not represent stabil company.

    Yes with good developer, the strata title can easily get within 3 years. But strata title is forever strata title. It cannot be change to single title. It make not different with you stay at apartment.
    Strata title house cannot simply do renovation on outside body house. No freedom at all. It like apartment/condo concept…

  41. kenny
    May 9th, 2011 at 23:14 | #42

    Yes. agreed. I have visited SPI before, ~30% house looking for sell… big competition caused
    price stagnant. Peference low density with hope high demand. :-)

  42. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    May 10th, 2011 at 11:42 | #43

    @Johnny
    The most worrying part is whether can get strata title or not. Especially when the developer is not reliable, that is when we need to worry. But as soon as the strata title is issued, there should not be any different in ownership rights between individual and strata title. Except that instead of owning a specific piece of land, you will have a share in a large piece of land.

    I think it all depends on individual preference. there are pro and cons. Personally i think if the JMB is strong, a strata title community is good because everyone work together to maintain the gated area. But then if the management is bad, then there is no different from MPPP :)

    In KL, there are some very well managed strata housing projects. Like Desa Parkcity, the environment are so nice, clean and peaceful. Best thing I like about that place is that you won’t see any gigantic renovation and no eye soaring paint work. Everything looks original and well maintained.

  43. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    May 10th, 2011 at 11:58 | #44

    Since there are so much concern about Strata title, I have published a short article about Strata vs Individual title from legal standpoint. Hopefully this will clarify some doubts.

    https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2011/05/strata-title-vs-individual-title/

  44. Dunno
    May 10th, 2011 at 15:50 | #45

    Finally, our Mr Kenny and Johny telling the true. they wish to buy and sell quickly to flip their money.

    i would say the price is too high to goreng now. good luck.

  45. FireDragon
    May 11th, 2011 at 15:17 | #46

    @Ken Strata is forever unbeatable with Individual title. If you own strata like One residence, do you allow to re-paint your house fencing or front wall with any favaroute colour that you prefer? Do you allow to change the auto-gate with any material or any stylist that you like? You still need to worry whether your neightbours is paying maintenance fees or else the facilities will be not under well maintenance? With all the limitation as above, I personally still feel more comfortable with individual title. At least I can make sure my house looks oustanding than my neighbours with “HAM HAM” renovation. :)

  46. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    May 11th, 2011 at 15:30 | #47

    @FireDragon
    I agree to your point too. There is no right or wrong. We are here to find the right neighborhood to live in. :)

  47. Johnny
    May 11th, 2011 at 21:21 | #48

    Strata title landed house is almost same like people always said ” Low cost or third grade house”. Same like last time the land owner build house themself and then sell to you with share title.
    A lot of ppl bought the one residence on first phase do complaining to developer didn’t explain clearly on the land title when they purchased that time.
    Do you know why one residence sell cheap? Land area is 22×70, sell at 768k. Because of strata title. This what i heard personnely from Ideal sale representative. If Individual title, it worth more than 800k. So think twice before you purchase strata title house. Think for your future generation.

  48. FireDragon
    May 11th, 2011 at 23:01 | #49

    @Ken
    Hahaha.. u r right too. No method what title of your house… no method how good looking of your reno…. If you got an un-considerable neighbourhood … You defenately will get into trouble….. 😛

  49. Enn
    May 12th, 2011 at 09:41 | #50

    Any comments for the materials and interior design for this house?I’m no plan to spend >10K for reno (excluded furniture)……….

  50. Pg
    May 13th, 2011 at 00:05 | #51

    Interesting comment!
    Buying G&G Strata property = 3rd grade=low cost = no future?
    Interesting….there must be many unintelligent people in KL…some more paying almost double than the individual title in DESA Parkcity.

    Come on la… both individual and G&G have their own weaknesses too.
    Individual title is ok if you buy in established and prime location areas. The likelihood of the crime and unknown neighbours and foreigners infiltrate your neighnournood lesser. U go and ask those stay near to the Kampung and foreigners about their crime rate.

    I bet u after the One Res & the neighboring non gated crime cases statistics in next 2 years, will tell u which is better.

    Why need to slander so much….pls stop the envy, wait for Phase 4 la.

  51. FireDragon
    May 13th, 2011 at 11:01 | #52

    Hahaha……….. siara81 forum become so hot but most of the people talking about Strata vs Individual instead of the project itself. No offencing for strata but indivual will be more preference. No matter what, as long as it is not lease hold landed, both looks good for me. :)

  52. em
    May 13th, 2011 at 18:34 | #53

    We not really need G&G. The maintenance fee start with RM200 per month, 5 years or 10 years, it easily double up the free; Let’s said, 10 years, still RM200 per month, mean spent RM200 x 12 x 10 = RM24K; with this big $, you can get super high tech security system by your own; if the join management is not good, this because wasted, you think condo no security issue? Do not forget, after you pay the $ for guard, you still need to spend minimum of $ for base security; do not tell me you dare to stay a hours house without alarm system and grill after you pay the maintenance fee? To me, I trust high tech equipment far more than the guard in G&G.

  53. Kevin
    May 13th, 2011 at 19:30 | #54

    Any comment on surrounding about Siara 81…. i visited site, few items observed
    1. Very close to waste recycle factory at up hill – some noise level from factory
    2. Close to power cable station, any risk ?
    3. Close to old houses (last raw).. good ?

  54. Johnny
    May 13th, 2011 at 22:38 | #55

    If i have choice to choose SP setia or One residence, i will choose SP setia. Because SP setia is individual title even though it gated.

  55. Pg
    May 13th, 2011 at 23:25 | #56

    haha…now i know where this guy have the vested interest. No wonder so much bad mouthing others.

    Again another guy speaking without statistics. Generally if security in a condo is worst than normal apartment then these security firm really need to be fire. Dont talk about GUARANTEE…..there is no such thing except DEATH and taxes.

    Of course G&G also can occur theft but what is the risk? The thief must be real smart to purposely choose G&G than normal house to steal:)

    G&G is a new growing market for Penang. Do u know why G&G SouthBay price touching $1.1M? Do i need to explain more?
    There are so many enviuos neighbours who really curse themselves for missing the deal. Then we are seeing people here go to forum to tembak One Res.

  56. Johnny
    May 14th, 2011 at 10:31 | #57

    i believe today still a lot of ppl dunno landed house got strata title. i have one friend aware only after he bought. Then after they will question developer this and that. A lot of developer very smart, they didn’t mentioned this when advertised that time. That why no surprise you can see a lot them give up and end up to sell to make some profit.

  57. Pg
    May 14th, 2011 at 19:32 | #58

    Let’s consider legal action against such unethical developers.
    There are ministry website too. CAP etc. Why just silence and come here to cry.

    Less go for more ethical developer and pay more just may be $100k to $200k extra.
    Not much la…or buy from desperate sellers/investors who condemn other project la :)

  58. FireDragon
    May 15th, 2011 at 22:24 | #59

    Kevin :Any comment on surrounding about Siara 81…. i visited site, few items observed1. Very close to waste recycle factory at up hill – some noise level from factory2. Close to power cable station, any risk ?3. Close to old houses (last raw).. good ?

    1.) I hear that this factory going to move out soon. (from developer)
    2.) Which power station. I don’t see any. Can you please descibe more?
    3.) Majority is Chinese (as being told by developer). I think those is 3rd guarant house. Don’t know whether have future development on this piece of land or not.

    I’m just worry that the empty land surrounding this project will be occupied for high rise. Personally don’t like the environment and somemore the price is a bit expensive.

    I called to the developer on last Friday. Being told that no booking deposit is allowed. Must straight away to pay 10% & sign for SNP. What??? At least must give me some time to get loan confirmation letter from bank first right? Feel really nonsense & decided to give up.

    Extra info : Developer just bear 50% of legal fees during SNP. Title transfer fee not included. 15 units left only.

  59. kenny
    May 16th, 2011 at 13:53 | #60

    @FireDragon, the power station which supply voltage to Balik Pulai is located at 3rd guarant house. Around ~100 feet distance away to siara 81. For the waste recyle factory to be move out soon, which are refering at hill site area. right ?? ( not the beside summerhill).
    2 weeks ago, i called up and informed with left ~6 units ( excluded BUMI lots) but now with 15 units left – many ppl give up just within 2 weeks time ?? Overall this project is a bit expensive but one thing good is 2-storey with spacious which is hardly to get it at island now

  60. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    May 16th, 2011 at 16:12 | #61

    Actually not many people who are interested can afford. Sometimes when the buyer’s loan is rejected, they will then release the units for others.

  61. Kevin
    May 17th, 2011 at 16:29 | #62

    i hv visited site yesterday, observed very noisy sound ” gang, gang …” generanted from waste recycle factory at top hill during recycle the metal… :-(. The factory site lcoated at top hill which can view thru from 3rd guarant old house. heard that factory will move out.. can anyone comment ???

  62. Penang
    May 17th, 2011 at 17:06 | #63

    That’s why One Residence selling like hot cake even during pre-launch.
    22X75 make a visible difference in spacious concept.
    Also the layout design is very important in making u feel space.
    Most of the 2nd and 3rd room are too small for the typical 20*70 unit.

  63. Johnny
    May 17th, 2011 at 21:09 | #64

    One residence selling good bcos of bigger size and cheaper. Tree residence offer land size 22×70 not 22×75. But don’t forget, it is strata title not single title like SP setia. I still prefer SP setia, famous and financial stable developer and house design also look nice.

  64. C
    May 17th, 2011 at 21:35 | #65

    again three residence prices are much expensive compare one residence with smaller land.. 768k with 22×70

  65. FireDragon
    May 17th, 2011 at 22:44 | #66

    @Kevin
    Please don’t take any word from developer. They are always a big lier. Good luck if you trust them. :)

  66. Penang
    May 18th, 2011 at 00:23 | #67

    Good developer matters especially during initial stage. It make u feel good for short term for sure. But as someone said….how much extra u want to pay….If difference is RM50k i m ok but, so much extra they want to pinch from us. Is it fair?

    Simple question does anyone still remember developer for Island Glades? Or Batu Lanchand terrace? WHo bothers so much ? :)

  67. Duno
    May 18th, 2011 at 08:51 | #68

    All in all, here is what determine a good property (regardless strata tittle or not):-

    1) neigbourhood: all your neighbours are highly educated. so no fire fighting in future. no worry on facility/garden being vandalism, no worry on maintananee fee not paid.
    2) Environment: security, fresh and greenry env, garden for jogging, playground for kid.
    3) Location: no serious traffic jam, near to school for kid.

  68. FireDragon
    May 19th, 2011 at 00:10 | #69

    @Penang

    Simple question does anyone still remember developer for Island Glades? Or Batu Lanchand terrace? WHo bothers so much ?

    Err… can you please explain what do you try to say about Island glades & batu lanchang? I think those old house sell at very reasonable price in the past 30 years ago. Most of the white collar people like teachers, goverment servant is affordable for the price during that century. Anything wrong?

  69. FireDragon
    May 19th, 2011 at 00:11 | #70

    @Duno
    100% agree with your comment. I like it. :)

  70. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    May 19th, 2011 at 15:13 | #71

    @Duno
    Agreed :)

  71. Johnny
    May 19th, 2011 at 21:04 | #72

    Another 5 years, i predict it will exist RM1million. Buy before you too late.

  72. Dunno
    May 20th, 2011 at 06:03 | #73

    sorry Johnny,
    Another 2 to 3years, the property price will drop. guess will be at least 20% .

  73. CAT
    May 20th, 2011 at 07:40 | #74

    As what i know, property price will no hv history with drop so significant by 20%. even at economic crisis pevious, penang property price still stgnant at market value.. will it be possible for burst ?? if true, many penang folks might in suffer.

  74. PR
    May 20th, 2011 at 09:15 | #75

    @dunno,
    wa ! 20 % ! what is the basis that you r referring to for such significant drop ?

  75. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    May 20th, 2011 at 10:34 | #76

    The only time Penang property price will drop is when the whole electronics and bio industries collapse. But it doesn’t look like the case now.

    Appreciate to RM1mil. is possible. Even at a natural land price appreciation in Penang of 5% per year, new launches for similar kind of property would have breach 1 million mark. But of course that doesn’t mean sub-sale of Siara 81 in 5 years later can definitely sell at 1 million.

    That will comes back to the kind of neighborhood that you are staying with. :)

  76. Penang
    May 20th, 2011 at 21:37 | #77

    Again here come another unsubstantiated allegations. This is not a paint ball game.
    No statistics, no analysis provided. In general in fairly good location 20% drop is too remote to occur.

    We have been played to the tune and music of the developers (regardless of the so called good developers or local notorious type) for too long. They set the price then we sapu. We have overlooked those good value good locations sub-sales.

    Hence there shall be some corrections on the horizon but remember it could be a real “short correction” before another upswing. This is hard to predict.

  77. Johnny
    May 20th, 2011 at 22:49 | #78

    Penang island property is going grow like what was happening on Singapore. A lot of singaporean not afford to have landed house today bcos of not grabbed the opportunity during 10 to 20 years back. Now you say the price high, later 10 years you will say terrible high.
    Like past experience, when asian and world economy crisis, penang landed house not suffered at all. Do you know why? Penang island not like Kl and other places have big of land.

  78. FireDragon
    May 22nd, 2011 at 13:19 | #79

    No one can predict what will happened in next 3 years. I ask around, even banker or valuer can’t predict for next year. If someone buying for own stay, regardless what, just go ahead. Self satisfition is unvalueable. If invest for flipping then have to think twice. Strong data & satistic to show that the supply is more than demand at Bayan Lepas area in next 3 years. If you can’t flip it at a good price or can’t even rent your property out, it’s look like buying a big rope to tie up yourself. The emotional suffer will be the most painful hurt. Good luck for those flipper. :)

  79. FireDragon
    May 22nd, 2011 at 13:22 | #80

    @Johnny
    Penang will never look like Singapore unless PR win the wars in the next election for both penang state & putrajaya. Looking forward for it ………………..!!!!!!!

  80. CAT
    May 22nd, 2011 at 13:39 | #81

    I believe it will… but will take longer time compare to singapore. kind of agree Penang especially bayan baru area the supply will more than demand. anyway, still have believe housing prices will not drop but will keep stagnant for next few years. The most important, buy for own stay and investment just get for secondary.

  81. Dunno
    May 22nd, 2011 at 16:05 | #82

    read a comment from somewhere…here is the story:-

    一个朋友说房屋会跌的故事, 内容大概是酱。。。

    成:oi, 最近lou银行,lou到不错下hor
    明:nah,你赚的,快过我
    成:鸟你。。eh,为何现在的屋价那么贵?看来要中bubble,跌价咯。。有开始收头期吗?到时候,价钱跌时,买一间投资
    明:收着咯。。。屋子。。很难下价的啦(penang lang 的 slang)
    成:干捏,哪里不会,你看xx的屋子,600起到800,但是没有几间人住罢了。。到时候金融风暴来时,人家不能供了,要卖时就kio 便宜货啦。。
    明:人家不会便宜卖的啦。
    成:哪里不会。到时候没有工作,嘛放掉咯。。。。到时候我们进去啦。。
    明:问你下。。如果你买个Project, 800k landed, 3年后起好,身边的“邻居”要卖1m,你说合理吗?
    成:ok ar..平常。。对吗?
    明:那么你要卖多少?如果有人要和你买950k,你卖吗? 利息大概50k,你也赚100k了
    成:当然是1m larr,难道要亏本meh..
    明:那么,如果没有人要买呢?
    成:自己顶着先啦。。不然嘛租先咯。。。过后才卖,租客帮你顶利息
    明:等金融风暴时,你会怎样?
    成:一样啦。。。应该能顶1-2年,到时候金融风暴过后,人家有工作做,那到时候再卖,可能又起价了Leh??
    明:不能顶leh?
    成:一样啦。。租先咯。。
    明:那么,到时候再3年了,人家卖1.3M,你卖多少?
    成:1.25M .haha…多赚咯。。
    明:那么。。。屋子几时才跌价
    成:这。。。。。 aya 会的啦会的啦。。。。

    明:。。。。

  82. FIA
    May 23rd, 2011 at 00:03 | #83

    More and more project will coming up to penang,”Greater penang TP” announced by Najib, tunnel linked SBU and Gurney, bullet train from singapore-kl-penang-thailand-china project……….from sin to penang >3 hours. So, penang housing price in a growing stage now.When the pricing reach to a max point,housing price enter into maturity stage,this wil only happen when all the project is completed and no more future development.Lastly, when the houses supply over demand, then only enter decline stage, this is basic lifecycle teory. i do believe when our penang population is increase,penang land get lesser and lesser, the price definitely will grow.Other factor like KL and JB property pricing geting higher will influence penang also.Because,this make penang property become attrative to buyer.limitted supply to penang property will prevent the bubble to burst.Property price in singapore may be will drop, but will recover very soon and reach a new record high.U want to know what happen to penang property in future, singapore is our’s mirror.only 15% ppl can stay in landed property, a few stay in their own’s condo/apartment, other can only rent or stay in goverment flat .This is what happen to singaporean now.

  83. Johnny
    May 23rd, 2011 at 21:01 | #84

    i am very agreed what FIA comments. Penang land will get lesser and lesser especially at island. i remembered 20 years back, one single storey terrace house cost RM80K (20×90)at sungai ara. Now they sell about RM500K, about 6 times.
    Then i also a friend bought a single strorey landed house at batu kawan about also RM80K (24×90) in 15 years back. But today only worth about RM130K. It worst than you put yr money in the Bank.
    So location is very important when you buy a house.

  84. MY
    May 23rd, 2011 at 22:24 | #85

    @Johnny
    From the previous comment posted, seem like u have been purchased unit for siara 81.. will it at good location ? any potential grow for that area ?

  85. FIA
    May 24th, 2011 at 01:23 | #86

    location of Siara 81 is good.very near to Jusco(5 min),giant,banking.Actually, changkat sungai ara is very suitable for retiring ppl.Many ppl jogging over there after 5pm,with fresh air,and birds singging.it is a kampung inside the town,but very convenient to reach everywhere in the town. This place is more strategic compare to relau.

    Johnny,can u share ur opinion, why u choosing Siara 81 instead of setia greens?

  86. Johnny
    May 24th, 2011 at 21:59 | #87

    PPl work in Bayan Lepas factory like to stay in Sungai Ara bcos 5 min away from their work place and also to airport. A lot of expatriate workers stay here. Sungai ara has a lot of bunglo and semidetach house. This was bring up the living standard at Sungai Ara. You are feel secure and comfort when you stay with high living standard ppl. No surprise you see now the condo at Regency height can sell as high as 500K just 1250 square fits.
    The traffic at sungai ara is very good not jammed at all.

  87. MY
    May 24th, 2011 at 22:26 | #88

    Some comparison Siara 81 vs Setia Green.. which one value to go…?
    Siara 81 Setia Green
    Price

  88. MY
    May 24th, 2011 at 22:30 | #89

    Some comparison Siara 81 vs Setia Green.. which one value to go…?
    Siara 81 Setia Green
    Price 798k >938k
    House 2-storey 3-storey
    land 20×70 20×65
    BU 1916 sqft >2785 sqft
    Landscape No Yes
    Developer Unknow SP Setia

  89. Johnny
    May 25th, 2011 at 21:22 | #90

    If you prefer 3 stroreys, then worth to choose setia green. I buy Siara 81 bcos it 2 storeys but price a little bit expensive. If you buy for stay then i think should be fine.

  90. FIA
    May 26th, 2011 at 01:17 | #91

    anyone has site picture for siara 81 and setia greens?

  91. MY
    May 26th, 2011 at 10:23 | #92

    I hv visited actual site siara 81 and setia greens.. good environment :-). For siara 81, the sample house almost complete 80%. they start to put up tile and painting.

  92. FIA
    May 26th, 2011 at 14:44 | #93

    which one u prefer?

  93. MY
    May 26th, 2011 at 16:00 | #94

    For me, i will go for Siara 81 :-) 2-storey is good enough. no need pay addtional > 100k to get 3rd storey. This will help to release a lot of loan burden. In further, setia green land only in 20×65 instead of siara 20×70. i have visited siara 81 sample house, look spacious :-). One thing no good is bed rooms ( except master bed room) are kind of small…

  94. MY
    May 26th, 2011 at 20:28 | #95

    Outlook design with painting white look nice. 2×2 tile for both ground and 1st floor. good env at changkat sg ara. i kind of consider to buy for own stay but price a bit expensive :-(

  95. Johnny
    May 26th, 2011 at 21:08 | #96

    The past 7-8 years sungai ara landed house is about 400++. That time i said wah very expensive. Now i feel regret not to have one last time. So learn from past experience. Do not repeat a mistake again.

  96. FIA
    May 27th, 2011 at 10:17 | #97

    beautiful natural surroundings,surrounded by lush greenery.first choice for those,buy for own stay.i also consider to buy one

  97. CAT
    May 27th, 2011 at 12:51 | #98

    I checked with developer last week, only left with few units available which close to raw 3rd guarant old house – those mostly chinese owner.. will it be concern ?

  98. FireDragon
    May 29th, 2011 at 23:01 | #99

    More unit available compare to what I get last 2 weeks…. Somemore they are publishing in Kwang Hwa yesterday. Are they facing selling problem? Unlike those hot project, don’t need to advertise at all. I think Johnny have to work hard to persuade more buyer for them at this forum….. hahaha……..

  99. Johnny
    May 29th, 2011 at 23:28 | #100

    The project is good but a little bit expensive. That why it needs to advertise in news paper. Today is also came up in Kwang Hwa. Some buyer not trust small developer. Some buyer comments they should sell cheaper. i don’t think it have problem near 3rd guarant old house bcos the back is facing not the front house facing them.

  100. Puto
    May 30th, 2011 at 14:45 | #101

    @Johnny, they dun absorb interest, SnP and the fees when title seperate right?

  101. CAT
    May 30th, 2011 at 20:55 | #102

    today called up developer.. left with 7 units.. 6 standard and 1 corner unit. all the fees will need bare by owner..

  102. Johnny
    May 30th, 2011 at 21:35 | #103

    yes they are not absorb the fees when issue title.

  103. Eric
    May 30th, 2011 at 22:01 | #104

    For property costs 800K, stamp duty for title transfer alone will cost 1%*100K + 2%*400k + 0.5%*300K = rm10.5k excluding legal fee

  104. Dunno
    May 30th, 2011 at 23:16 | #105

    In this case , Siara81 does not sound attractive at all. When ppl buy expensive property, they don’t have a lot cash and developer normally provide 5% d/payment, free title transfer, free legal fee and free interest.

    btw, total title transfer + stamp duty + legal fee should be ~30k to 35k.

  105. toto
    May 31st, 2011 at 08:46 | #106

    anyone knows how much was the 2235 corner sold for? (cheapest corner)

  106. CAT
    May 31st, 2011 at 16:40 | #107

    Dunno, agreed with u that the expensive project should provide fees waiver. But looking at today projects, no many developer will wailing to provide free for title transfer, free legal fee and free interest ( except for setia green abd prestiga V – free SAP, Loan and title transfer).. One residence also will no cover for title trasnfer :-(. Recent new project launch Minden garden 3 storey asking for 989k with only cover for SAP fee :-(. No much choice…….

  107. toto
    May 31st, 2011 at 16:53 | #108

    hi CAT, the sales person told me that the Minden Garden 3 storey intermediate 22×60 asking for 965k (after discount), free legal and stamp duty.

  108. CAT
    May 31st, 2011 at 16:58 | #109

    No cover for title transfer ( in fact this is most expensive) if not mistaken..u can double confirm..

  109. xiaowen
    May 31st, 2011 at 21:28 | #110

    Hi, just found this page. Interesting to learn that so many people talking about this project, the pros and cons, as I am considering to get one double storeys terrace house.
    CAT is right, I called the developer today, understand that there are only a few units left.
    Will go to the site and have a look at it.

  110. invest
    June 1st, 2011 at 01:03 | #111

    hi all, if any of you are looking for new double storey, you should check out Setia Vista.

    price vice, cheap 700k to 750k (of course the land is smaller, 20×70)
    location vice, almost same with Siara81.
    come with 24hrs cctv and guarded.

  111. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    June 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 | #112

    I thought Setia Vista already sold out?

  112. thunder
    June 2nd, 2011 at 21:03 | #113

    they mean buying from sub-sale…

  113. xiaowen
    June 3rd, 2011 at 10:18 | #114

    Hi all,
    I went into the house at SIARA 81, it looks so spacious, especially the living hall, master bedroom and family hall on 1st floor floor, the ceiling seems higher, well ventilated and lighted, unlike other terrace house which usually dark and small for the family area on the 1st floor. Not bad the finishes, the layout and space planning is also better, overall feeling — – the house is elegant. Good for my own stay. Anyone knows which bank gives good offer now?
    I think Setia Vista definitely will not be my choice because the environment is surrounded by so many low cost apartments, so different … Setia Vista building footprint is only 20’x45′ only right ?

  114. CAT
    June 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 | #115

    overall bank giving almost same rate… -2.4%. OCBC not bad… zero lock in :-)

  115. Lmsylvia
    June 3rd, 2011 at 13:27 | #116

    Dear all,

    I interested on this project, but seem like this project is so expensive which can go up RM440/sq ft..

    As i knew that last time my fren bought ijm project-light linear 2009 ogos for 380/sqft.light linear is with so called international features,green building,fittings are all branded,big landscape area with 0.20cent per sqft maintanance charge. if it is 440/sqft,it must need international unit and not only normal bare finished unit without fittings.

    The advantage of the meridien is we only pay 3% downpayment but 440/sqft we can get better with IJM project.

    Pls comment..tq

  116. Lmsylvia
    June 3rd, 2011 at 13:30 | #117

    Sorry. i put in wrong project web..how to delete this ?

  117. toto
    June 3rd, 2011 at 13:49 | #118

    xiaowen, i agree with you. Siara81 looks so much better than Setia Vista with a little premium on top of it. If we are expanding Setia Vista to the back, the price comes very close to Siara81. In the future, we can renovate the house to whatever we like, but it’s impossible to change the location!

    The only problem with SIARA81 is not many choices now :(

  118. Ken (Admin)
    Ken
    June 3rd, 2011 at 14:53 | #119

    @Lmsylvia
    No worry, you can re-publish the message in the correct project :)

  119. lan si
    June 4th, 2011 at 05:53 | #120

    potential growth? how about the second link bridge coming up project? is the potential growth? why the price there still selling cheap?

  120. FireDragon
    June 4th, 2011 at 19:38 | #121

    Don’t put too high expectation for the siarra81 location when you don’t know what will be developed at the empty land beside it. Anyone have any ideas?

  121. Jason
    June 6th, 2011 at 15:09 | #122

    i have some chat with the area house owner… rumour say SP Setia are looking for the empty land beside Siara 81… still no firm up… no sure how true it this :-)

  122. CK
    June 7th, 2011 at 02:43 | #123

    Hi, I am interested in the Feng Shui in the area…. anyone care to comments? Thank you…
    Can’t find a site with good advice regarding the feng shui of that area… Is it good?

  123. invest
    June 10th, 2011 at 13:35 | #124

    setia vista isd good feng shui if u really study feng shui

  124. CK
    June 12th, 2011 at 02:58 | #125

    @invest – how about setia greens?

  125. FireDragon
    June 12th, 2011 at 15:20 | #126

    I can 100% guaranteed that the side land is not own by SP Setia. :) Anyway, the developer of the new land owner haven’t decide for any project.

  126. Kevin
    June 12th, 2011 at 21:43 | #127

    @FireDragon
    oh.. u mean side land been sale out to new owner…? who is the new land owner ?

  127. Enn
    June 16th, 2011 at 10:14 | #128

    Any idea when the show room will officially open for visit?

  128. CAT
    June 16th, 2011 at 19:57 | #129

    I have visited show room today (80% completion), 2 items no satisfy – car pool only with cement render instead tile, main electrical cable not underground ( will be look very messy with wayer hanging)….:-(

  129. bm
    June 16th, 2011 at 21:33 | #130

    @CAT
    Is the show house open for visit? Since you mention only 80% complete. Probably 20% work is to hide up those messy wire :)

  130. CK
    June 16th, 2011 at 23:07 | #131

    I like setia greens, land is elevated, nearer to hill, bigger built up ( okay, i know it’s 3-storey versus 2-storey ). Jogging track, landscaping, guarded, ah… also there’s a pond.

    Siara 81 design is actually not bad at all also, would have consider also if it’s inside Setia development.

    Overall, both are in the same neighborhood… but just like Setia Greens more… cheers…

  131. MY
    June 16th, 2011 at 23:15 | #132

    Siara 81 owners also can enjoy setia facilities …jogging track, landscape, pool as just neighborhood :-). most important, siara 81 price cheaper than ~100k :-):-)

  132. Smart
    June 17th, 2011 at 07:45 | #133

    well, i think they will not allow you step in setia green facilities. Being try go to view hse at setia pearl island and setia vista but the guard stop me guard hse. Setia very smart in controlling their landscape to be same as gated and you very hard to access into their resident area, you can understand what i mean if you had visit setia vista and SPI before.

  133. Boh
    June 17th, 2011 at 13:01 | #134

    But,refer to masterplan,public can share use the pond.No guard houses at two entrance.

  134. Smart
    June 17th, 2011 at 14:21 | #135

    Yes, thats why i said they will use landscape to control all these. now setia green landscape was 6ft higher than neighbor 3story. You can visit SPI see how they work on this. further more the only entry to setia green is from changkat sg.ara 6.

  135. invest
    June 17th, 2011 at 15:34 | #136

    in this case, i would say,

    1) go for setia vista if you have price concern
    2) go for setia green if you afford the price.

  136. Boh
    June 17th, 2011 at 19:09 | #137

    never visit vista and spi before.cant get full picture on this.but,that will be good for SG residents.

    landscape was 6ft higher than neighbor 3story……….which one?

  137. smart
    June 17th, 2011 at 20:53 | #138

    beside setia green got 2 row 3st

  138. Boh
    June 17th, 2011 at 23:44 | #139

    zan semi -d?

  139. FireDragon
    June 18th, 2011 at 00:43 | #140

    Setia vista surrounded by low cost. This is the reason why the sub-sale transaction is so low. According to my property agent friend, a lot of buyer not even want to offer price after visiting the site. Go for setia green or siarra 81 defenately better.

  140. CK
    June 18th, 2011 at 03:36 | #141

    @MY . hahaha, yeah right…. no offence intended but I don’t think Setia Greens residents will love the idea of sharing the facilities la….. there is a price for the extra privileges and this pond/etc comes with extra 100K price tag. Ppl will feels “Beh Song” if you intrude this privilege? :)

  141. invest
    June 18th, 2011 at 10:10 | #142

    dun like setia vista? easy choice..go for setia green lah…

    you guys..no money but want to buy landed, and some more want to curi ppl’s facilities and env.

  142. CAT
    June 18th, 2011 at 12:39 | #143

    @invest
    what wrong with u ?? any BIG concern from u with ppl refuse for setia vista

  143. Smart
    June 18th, 2011 at 15:01 | #144

    Boh- you can visit setia green contruction site now to have more clear picture. To have higher landscape is secure from flooding, that area easily fill up with water after heavy rain for half hr.

  144. CK
    June 18th, 2011 at 21:08 | #145

    Hey @Smart, do you have any photo on the site progress to share? Seems like you have been there recently based on your comment. Thanks….

  145. Boh
    June 18th, 2011 at 22:46 | #146

    Not only siara owner aimed for setia greens(SG) facilities,others like,
    zan semi-d, and surrounding old property also

    That will be big issue for SG resident committee,they will not agree on this.Especially, SG semi-d owner.

    Invest, i like ur comment…..

  146. smart
    June 18th, 2011 at 23:30 | #147

    i did not capture any photo but now still doing site clearance, they took soil from hillside (should be phase II location) and dump for phase I landscape to make it higher ( from my estimate is abt 6 feet higher or more.if measure landscape with existing 3st beside setia green, it almost reach their level 2.

  147. Boh
    June 19th, 2011 at 01:41 | #148

    From your estimation,that area belong to setia greens dillenia and semi-d or ehretia?If that’s true,then the area of Cassia and Cordia are much higher than that, is it?

  148. CK
    June 19th, 2011 at 02:35 | #149

    @smart… thanks for feedback. please do share more info of photo if you have the time :)

    @boh, you are spot-on! I wonder how SG resident committee is going to control non-resident from the area? This might turn messy…

  149. Smart
    June 19th, 2011 at 08:47 | #150

    yes cassia and cordia will be much more higher than 6feet according to their model house.

  150. Boh
    June 19th, 2011 at 10:45 | #151

    Call to siara sales office,left 2 unit available.how about setia greens

  151. Smart
    June 19th, 2011 at 11:14 | #152

    Setia Green many people place booking fees but yet to sign SPA. 90 percent speculator ……

  152. LG
    June 19th, 2011 at 14:40 | #153

    @Firedragon,
    Contrary to your agent’s friend statement, many potentitial subsale buyers wants to buy setia vista but not many unit available for sales especially good unit (no odd shape, near garden, facing south…). Majority of setia vista buyers are for own stay including my relative’s one. I was with my relative in Setia Vista one day and there were agents bring in buyers asking for units for sales after site visit but no many are willing to sell as majority owners want to renovate and stay. Buyers who come and look at the site them selves will like the place a lot as Setia Vista is well balance in environment and basic amenity accessibility. There are low cost apartments nearby Setia Vista as part of state gov regulation which applied to all housing project. Once you enter the Setia Vista guarded compound, the environment is different with the garden and reserve forest at the back, where you can see eagles, dragron flies and bird chirping in the garden. Wet market is nearby too. Wanted to buy Semi-d at Setia Vista (10units) but fully booked d. Siarra 81 design not bad but it is not guarded, like the buildup and design. Setia Green good if not it is 3 S. All these projects are nearby, believe one day it will fully linked up with new road when the area is fullly developed. Cheers!

  153. C
    June 19th, 2011 at 15:03 | #154

    Yes. Siara get in disadvantage with no guarded and landscape. In fact i like Setia Green env so much but in 3S with price a bit expensive. Siara left with 2 units which no in good location ( near to TNB). Might wait for BUMI lots but not sure how much price will going to increase :-(

  154. CK
    June 19th, 2011 at 23:17 | #155

    Last time I check, I think there’s still 15 – 20 units left for Cassia… mainly those at the back row nearer to the TNB station.

  155. invest
    June 20th, 2011 at 00:24 | #156

    @CAT,
    i am giving you a simple and clear answer. If you like the env and facilities, you should go for setia project. Don’t hope buying any lousy project like siara with location nearby can share ppl’s.. everything always come with a price. ppl’s in SG pay a premium for the facililty and env.
    change the other way round, if i request you to pay RM50k for building a garden or env and share with neigbourhood , will you willing to do that?

  156. invest
    June 20th, 2011 at 04:24 | #157

    @LG
    hi LG,
    you may b wrong, as i know, setia vista mostly bought by sp setia employee..at least 50%.
    you will see subsale a lot later end of the year

  157. Joanne
    June 20th, 2011 at 14:31 | #158

    is siara81 show houses available now?

  158. smart
    June 20th, 2011 at 21:37 | #159

    You can see Setia build retain wall at Setia vista, It should be same concept to setia green also from the site clearance they work on setia green now. wat is the different for gated and guarded?

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jnitJsnrRX4/StK0SlcyBzI/AAAAAAAAFa0/PZr0oYLcxrc/s1600-h/Setia+Vista+%28D8%29.jpg

  159. smart
    June 20th, 2011 at 21:41 | #160

    To enjoy the facilities in setia green you have to climb retain wall or you may bring ladder along? I will share setia green site progress photo next week. I still consider about setia green…. think think think

  160. Jason
    June 20th, 2011 at 21:48 | #161

    Joanne, show room still under construction,u can call developer for detail.

    Invest,maybe the “facility” is so importance to you but not for me:) I’m staying in Condo now,not really fully ultilize the facility:(

    One of the reason for buying landed is without maintenence fees….If really wanted enjoy the facility,i will prefer to play for club……….

  161. Boh
    June 20th, 2011 at 22:51 | #162

    @Smart
    which type of design do u prefer.According to masterplan and the site, cassia type should be on top of the hill…but dont know they will levelling the land or not.

    welcome u share SG site progress here

  162. FireDragon
    June 21st, 2011 at 00:46 | #163

    @Jason
    Fully agree. If want to pay maintenence fees, then will lost the meanings of owning a landed property. The most unlike is must follow the rules of comitee. :(

  163. Smart
    June 21st, 2011 at 07:30 | #164

    @boh
    According to their model master plan in setia office, they will leveling the land. i only can consider Dillena (limited budget) but not many unit left.

  164. Boh
    June 21st, 2011 at 11:26 | #165

    @Smart
    last time visit dilenia sold out already,may be some ppl cancelled their booking.

  165. Smart
    June 21st, 2011 at 13:43 | #166

    1 or 2 unit left, i had placed booking just now.

  166. invest
    June 21st, 2011 at 14:30 | #167

    clever ppl will know whether guarded is good or not.

    if your mind is so narrow, i might want to remind you. guarded in landed house is for security reason, not because of forming condo type of committee to control resident.

    you might not want to end up living in a dangerious house that high chance target of robber or pencuri.. take a good example is house in greenlane, the houses always got broke in.

  167. C
    June 21st, 2011 at 15:28 | #168

    No doubt, guarded is definitely good for security. Any good security and landscape maintenance will involve cost to sustain. Looking SG with setup so great for the facilities, pond and landscape. Question, how to sustain and cost to maintenance ?? This involve good committee and commitment from the residents. if no good maintenance will turn up because messy and bad. Sustaining always is big problem

  168. em
    June 21st, 2011 at 16:59 | #169

    I already post the comment before. RM24,000 for 10 years of maintenance fee, plus you still need ~5K for basic alarm & CCTV; meaning, you spend on ~RM30,000 for the 10 years; it really can start have super high tech home security (e.g. you can consult Legenda@Southbay home security vendor) with the same amount when move in.
    I am sure RM30,000 is more than enough for secure few thousands sqf house. Do not tell me you want to block those bad ppl like in Die Hard movie :)
    Again, per my own view, not really trust those G&G guard; the can be good guy or bad guy; high tech home security far better.
    I not saying G&G vs non G&G which one have better security; what I mean here is your house security should base on your house compound, not the taman compound.

  169. CS
    June 21st, 2011 at 17:25 | #170

    i agree with em…of course another option is go paralle, we are responsible for our own house…

  170. penangkia
    June 21st, 2011 at 17:30 | #171

    @em
    em. Agree with u. So quick ppl forget about the incident at Tambun Indah. G&G as well. A family coming home from oversea trip and realized that the whole house is getting empty. Hahaha……. the security guard is the thief……. Trust your own high tech equitment is better.
    The SPI security even worse. I have sneak in a few times without being stopped by the guard at all. What for? Decoration purpose?… Kekekekeke …….

  171. smart
    June 21st, 2011 at 21:41 | #172

    @C
    Pond and jogging track will maintain by MPPP after 1 year, SPI already hand over to MPPP now according to setia sales. I am confident with LGE gov to sustain the green environment in SG.

    @em
    30k 10 years?
    I already confirm with Setia, 1st year will be free and after that not more than RM100 per month for all inclusive (CCTV, guard). SPI only RM70 per month. I believed you not affordable to buy one million since 100 ~ 200 you also count like this, honestly 10 years 30k for me consider nothing la bro.Quality of living ma, to buy setia green monthly repayment almost 5k for 30 years loan, are you affordable? Before you comment this don’t time your own situation, because you are not genius buyer and you are not setia sales target. wakakaka

    @CS
    Yes, totally agreed with you. have to work with parallel, i don’t like midnight got car park in-front my house (mostly malay sit in car chatting and kissing) or patrolling around.

    @penangkia
    preventive is better than do nothing la, so many people die on the road due to accident, are you still driving?

  172. smart
    June 21st, 2011 at 22:16 | #173

    @C
    Pond and jogging track will maintain by MPPP after 1 year, SPI already hand over to MPPP now according to setia sales. I am confident with LGE gov to sustain the green environment in SG.

    @em
    30k 10 years?
    I already confirm with Setia, 1st year will be free and after that not more than RM100 per month for all inclusive (CCTV, guard). SPI only RM70 per month. I believed you not affordable to buy one million since 100 ~ 200 you also count like this, honestly 10 years 30k for me consider nothing la bro.Quality of living ma, to buy setia green monthly repayment almost 5k for 30 years loan, are you affordable? Before you comment this don’t time your own situation, because you are not genius buyer and you are not setia sales target. wakakaka

    @CS
    Yes, totally agreed with you. have to work with parallel, i don’t like midnight got car park in-front my house (mostly malay sit in car chatting and kissing) or patrolling around.

    @penangkia
    preventive is better than do nothing la, so many people die on the road due to accident, are you still driving?

  173. C
    June 21st, 2011 at 22:24 | #174

    just doubt, if MPPP maintain the jogging track and pond, this area should be as open public area.. right ??

  174. smart
    June 21st, 2011 at 22:35 | #175

    It should be open, some how the landscape designed cause you not easy to access. Can you climb retain wall?

  175. C
    June 21st, 2011 at 22:47 | #176

    we should no need to climb :-). we can walk directly thru main entrance since this is public area

  176. smart
    June 21st, 2011 at 22:51 | #177

    let see how, sierra 81 to SG main entrance should be 1km away. i don’t think you can easily access.

  177. CK
    June 22nd, 2011 at 00:19 | #178

    What’s so bad about having extra security like GnG? No one is forcing you to purchase SG. Some ppl like some ppl don’t. No issue..

    I share the same view with @invest and @C, having extra security is definately better than none. This will also come down on how well it is being managed. I believe genuine buyer of SG will have no problem installing the so called security system also if they wanted too…

    You can have the best security system in the market installed but it doesn’t 100% guarantee your home will not be a target.. All this GnG and security system is all about prevention. I think you will definately have more peace of mind on having one than none at all…

  178. Boh
    June 22nd, 2011 at 00:25 | #179

    SG committe will cooperate together to think of the best solution to prevent “others” to intrude SG compound. For those who are afford to buy SG,they are not mind to pay more for the maintenance fee, security is their main concern, right!

    Walk directly? i dont think so.because this area is exclusive privileges for SG resident.THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC AREA.

  179. rich
    June 22nd, 2011 at 03:03 | #180

    I start wondering majority talking at here, whether they are afford to buy a close to 1 million house. Are they buy for staying? doubt not, i guess they are buying just for flipping and somemore they are not afford to stay in as well.

    to me, if a person afford and willing to stay in a 1million house, 1st and very 1st thing is not the money, it is the environment and the security concern the person will have. Will a person paying a 1miilon ringgit and still care about the extra cost like a few thousands? whatever money can buy, i think the person will go for it, but location, garden, landscape env and guarded are the things that a person can not simply buy or build on top of his/her house.

  180. Jeffrey Wong
    June 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 | #181

    Hi all,
    To my understanding, as long as the units are individual titles, any public road can be accessed by all public, no one including the security guard can stop the public from entering into the scheme. As for the parks, since it will be handed over to MPPP and it will become a public park, it is just like an ordinary park, any public can go in.

  181. em
    June 22nd, 2011 at 13:16 | #182

    With today moral standard in this surrounding, you will be fool yourself if you think G&G give your extra protection; Those multimillion property make it as G&G is for marketing trick to let ppl ‘think’ have extra security.

    Yes, few hundred is not much for those can afford landed property, buy your $ is just go down the drain; it serve you nothing.

    Those are in here should experience when rental condo/apartment before have own property. Simple a teh tarik or soda drink give to guard at guardhouse, you can enter without any issue, not even need to register your ID. You can going and out enjoy free facility.

    Trust me, the guard is more scare than you, and you can have tone of reasons and make them let you going in/out easily.

    Is does not matter me can afford multimillion property or not; I just want to point out the G&G, really do not give the extra security. And worst, you lost all your privacy, cause someone know when you are in your house and when is not.

  182. rich
    June 22nd, 2011 at 13:43 | #183

    em, you got the point.
    but need to get a guard service from quality and good company like sp setia or mahsing

  183. Smart
    June 22nd, 2011 at 14:13 | #184

    Different level different thinking…….

  184. boh
    June 22nd, 2011 at 14:23 | #185

    @em
    i think the guard for condo/apartment is different to landed property.Some landed project really provide top quality security service.they will ask for ur lesen , before let u go in

  185. Smart
    June 22nd, 2011 at 15:25 | #186

    @boh
    he dun know different between condo with 200k and luxury condo with 1 million or above… i know n park/ D piazza etc easily get into it with kopi peng but you dare challenge me if you can go in silverton/ infinity?

  186. em
    June 22nd, 2011 at 16:21 | #187

    That’s why i am saying, high tech security system; not the G&G costing Rm200 per month. Do not tell me silverton/ infinity montly fee only RM200? Some more someone here said Setia is less than RM100… what kind of quality security you can get with that?

  187. Smart
    June 22nd, 2011 at 16:32 | #188

    SG without swimming pool and facilities, how much you need if want to hire few guards? Maybe for you few hundred too heavy but for me RM200 just enough for me to have a dinner with my family and kids :) at Hai Bui seafood during weekend. TM Residency and Fiera Vista will more suitable for you.

  188. em
    June 22nd, 2011 at 16:42 | #189

    Correct; this is why this kind of cacat G&G, not a valid for ppl to consider; nothing to be proud off.

    Spend RM200 with family is worth; but spend RM200 for this kind of G&G, speechless…

  189. CK
    June 22nd, 2011 at 17:48 | #190

    Please, stop teaching us your lousy mathematic.. Learned that in kindergargen. Your lousy ideology.. What is that? Oh 24k la, 30k la for security… What? Oh yes, you said on 10 years… I teach you how to calculate ok? In 10 years time.. 20k will only get you a Honda kapcai… Go figure… This is peanut la, don’t be speechless

  190. CK
    June 22nd, 2011 at 18:00 | #191

    We didn’t say the word “proud”… I call it this – “we appreciate”. Pls stop degrading yourself and don’t provoke

  191. toto
    June 22nd, 2011 at 20:28 | #192

    will the monthly fees increase in the future like the condominium’s does?

  192. FireDragon
    June 22nd, 2011 at 22:28 | #193

    @toto
    Possible. Inflation mah…. maintenance fees will rise…. pool water bill will rise …. security guard salary will rise ………. what else cannot rise? Back to square, most of the ppl will give me the same answer —> SALARY lor. :(

  193. FireDragon
    June 22nd, 2011 at 22:31 | #194

    For information. SG is only a guarded project. It’s not Gated & Guarded with strata title. It’s a fully individual title project.

  194. rich
    June 23rd, 2011 at 02:01 | #195

    guys, i guess for those that not agree with guarded sevice, here are the reason:-

    1) money is concern to them, even a few hundreds. Susah-susah stay in a landed house and not flexi enough to fork out extra 1 to 2 hundreds. So, definitely a landed house that required close to 1 million will not suite to them as they need to pay installment like 3 to 4k a monthly. What for? ? I guess to everyone regardless rich or poor, condo or landded, safety always a concern, that is why extra security service like guarded, cctv, guard patrolling are better than none or just home alarm.

    2) different background. Ppl grown up from higher educated family, they know what is most important to their need, safety or money. of course some ppl just want everything, but in this world no such thing like that. just like, you pay cheap to company to get a guard/patrolling service, do expect a low quality service. Same rule apply to every where, supermarket grocery, handphone, air plane seat (biz or economy)….

  195. BobbyBob
    June 23rd, 2011 at 14:25 | #196

    To me, a good housing security must come with technology nowadays. Like lots of security surveillance cameras, digital security locks, alarm sensor and etc. We cannot trust other human to safeguard our homes in a country where we cannot even put our trust in cops.

    As long as the security is supported by such technology, I don’t mind to pay more fees. Otherwise it will be a total waste of money to pay extra for G&G.

  196. CS
    June 23rd, 2011 at 16:56 | #197

    yup, agree…go paralel..

  197. smart
    June 23rd, 2011 at 20:45 | #198

    I will not buy Siara 81 after visit the site, i found that Setia Green phase II landscape will be 1 floor higher than Siara 81. It simply means Siara 81 2nd floor only same level as Setia Green 1st floor.

  198. Boh
    June 23rd, 2011 at 21:18 | #199

    How about Setia Greens phase I and siara 81?

  199. smart
    June 23rd, 2011 at 21:23 | #200

    Setia green phase I Dilenna will be higher Siara 81 one level too :)

  200. rich
    June 24th, 2011 at 04:52 | #201

    guys, Siara81 is just not a good project. if you rushing to get a home to stay, maybe that can be understood, else look for somewhere else like batu maung.

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