Penang Property Talk

Any idea of the price?

What is the price for the terrace house?

@Na Keat, i called to ask today, the DST were all sold out.

so fast? anybody buy?

Any comment on this project?

may i know how much for the double storey terrace?

around 400k

so fast?

Really no more unit for double storey terrace?
May i know how much is the bungalow?
i called but nobody answered.

@Chew share with you, you can consider tropical residency. i bought a double storey terrace.

@bm
Thank you for sharing!!!! the house u bought is phase one or phase 2?coz i saw the articles,it has been on sale since last year. dunno still got available units there.

@Chew for tropicale residency, double storey phase only phase 1, and no more phase 2. because it converted to the build of zero lot. i bought it last year May. it should have lots available. u could check at the show village there.

i see.. thank you for your information!!

@bm may i know how much the price when you bought tropicale residency, double strorey terrace

Called to sales office but no one pick up the phone. Does anyone know about the price range for each of the property types?

Terrace left conner unit (538k). The rest is zero lot bungalow (6xxk) and 3 storey bungalow.

Any Double storey available? Thanks.

the developer cannot be trusted… b4 sign up S&P mention want to be one of the best in BM area, but during sign up S&P, suddently change the tiles size from 24″ to 20″, change the wood tile to normal tiles and giving the reason say after the ‘marketing survey’, many customer prefer small tiles.. and many of them dun like wood tiles…. is it funny???

@ck

ck, you are referring to the zero lot bungalow? they didn’t show the specification list during booking but just give verbal promise for the specification. this is what i afraid of.

mine is double story link house… when i gave the deposit time, they not even hv a broucher… all spec given by the manager… now everything cut.. cycling track, jogging track all become shorter than original plan…

now fighting with them..

Izzit the GTM developer got provide the spec list?

@ck
Ya, must fight with the developer with the specifications mention or promise when we made the deposit. Another things is they didn’t disclose the selling price for each houses like what ijm did for the permatang project. I family book the zero lot type, and know we feel cheated because of the selling price.

@123
Ya, they have the specification list at the brochure, ijm and dnp also same.

The developer has the specs now. I have just signed up the SPA with them yesterday. You should ask a copy from the developer.

what is the price for the zero lot & terrace now?

all sold out,i’m not believe

@Peter u mean GTM project?

those developer lier!!
Every time people call in asked, they 100% tell you ALL SOLD OUT!!

After that they will resell at higher price!!

ck/ eddie, which developer you refer actually, i’m so blur in your conversation. I’m currently looking at Hill Park, did called the SO last month, but most of the intermediate unit sold and left the cornet units only. is the project worth to purchase?

@123, I meant hillpark. The main reason I purchase the project because of its concept. I love the concept.

Peter, I also purchased a superlink house from Hill Park. Love the concept. We will be Neighbour soon.. Cheers!
Belinda, Suggest u to visit the office …the concept is really good with a private clubhouse and a lake. Heard the intermediate superlink houses are sold out.. Left for some zero lots and end lot super links..the project is hot now..

Michael, I also purchased a zerolot bungalow from HillPark … Agreed with u. Very nice concept and exclusive. The house has very nice design and spacious. In fact, I bought the unit together with a group of friends. It is the best project I have seen so far..

@eddie , I checked with the HillPark developer that if they have any purchaser who felt cheated per yr comment. They advised that so far, all customers felt the houses are value for money. if your family member felt cheated, they are willing to do a refund to your family.
In fact, they said they know that you are from a competitor developer and they know exactly which developer firm you are from. As a purchaser and a friend, I found HillPark staffs are very friendly and provide” good values” for their houses and that ‘s why they have overwhelming response. Many of my friends also bought the houses. Do not attack your competitor just because your project can’t sell well.. This is bad for your co. haha!

@eddie , I am concern on yr comment n checked with HillPark. They advised that so far, all customers felt the houses are value for money. if your family member felt cheated, they are willing to do a refund to your family.
As a purchaser and a friend, I found HillPark staffs are very friendly and provide” good values” for their houses and that ‘s why they have overwhelming response. Many of my friends also bought the houses. By the way, r u their competitor? haha!

“all customers felt the houses are value for money??” Are you sure?? just because of developer told you??

the link house b4 launch was 340k.. and increase 20k every few weeks.. now the normal unit is 420k but will giving 30k rebate…

of couse they willing to give refund. because they can sell higher price.

PT sounds like someone from the developer, more than @eddie from the competitor.

I was considering this project previously, and have compared it with Tropicale.
My main concern is the close proximity of this project to the chicken farm located in the vicinity.
When I checked Wikimapia, someone even label a place nearby as “Chicken Hill” ?
Does anyone know if that is chicken farm as well?

I was told that the latest price for zero lot bungalow is 688K onwards for land area 44×75 one. After rebate 30K become 658K. Any one know the earliest price before the 688K?

the house built-up area is huge but the car porch is bit small. I prefer car park that have at least 30ft long. so, that can park at least 4 cars (bungalow)

How much is the bungalow now?
Is it 3 storey or 2.5 storey?
Seems that the info that I got from the website is different from what others got from the developer.

@fu, Any idea how much for Zero Lot Bungalow? Saw the banner – something like 50k rebate. Just wonder how much the existing price before the launch.

@Shawn
That “chicken hill” on wikimap should be real chicken farm, but it’s not very close to Hillpark. Hillpark Residences actually sits on a very high ground, may be the highest point in Alma area. Smell or flies from lower ground may not easily reach too high ground I think. This can be a great place to live in if developed properly.

I went to the site b4, it is landed on high ground. Understand that this property is not based on individual title but a master title. Scared d price of house deteriorate if d developer did not subdivide the title into individual title after sometime. Any valuable comments as i am interested in this project but lack of confidence?

Xy, I called up developer office and was told that the project is under master title or landed strata title.. Something similar to the apartment. Heard that many new and upcoming projects are of landed strata title and it has many advantages over the conventional individual title. It is very popular in KL. I m going to developer office to find out more as my friend told me it is an interesting project on high land.

@xy
Every single gated guarded community (landed or condo) has to be strata title. I think landed strata title cannot be changed to individual title unless the gated concept is aborted. Though it’s not “individual title”, the house still belongs to you and you can sell and other people can buy freely. However, you cannot renovate its exterior freely and have to follow certain rules.

What do you guys think about this project if compared to Tropicale Residency and Jesselton Hill? How would you rank them?

Just visited Hill park office today.. Very impressive lifestyle concept. I am attractted by its private and exclusive clubhouse as compared to Tropicale n Jesselton Hills’s public clubhouse. It is also located at high land and is very closed to the Tesco n proposed site of Jusco.
Go and visit their office …it really impressed me n my family. They have soft launch on 11/5 and we have chosen our zero lot bungalow.haha! .. It has nice design and very spacious ie 30*50..
Really excited….

Hi Gary. How much is the zero lot bungalow now? Still got available units?
Did you get info about the bungalow? Is it 2.5 storey (as what I heard from some friends) or 3 storey (as shown in the website) ?

They have a few types of zero lot bungalow. The one I get is RM688k with rm30k rebate if I get it on 11/5( first 10 customers only) . I like the luxury bungalow design but can’t afford it. It is a big 2 1/2 storey bungalow , ard 5000 sf in build up n priced above RM1m.. Wow!

Hi Gary, what is the build up area for the zero lot bungalow you get? 30 X 50 or the 30 X 45.

@BD, thanks for your advice.

@ eddie 30 * 50

Do you think the area will be affected by the flies & smell problem as there are quite some chicken farm in the vicinity of Alma.

So far so good.. I’ve been to site few days ago. Can’t smell it and no flies issue as I guess it is a distance away ..

Is the show house ready?

Went to sales office yesterday. The link house just left 2 end units (618k &708k), pretty expensive for the land size just between 2100~3050. Buyers have to bear higher costs due to the extra costs incurred to build strong structure at high land. There are so many housing projects at kulim high land, but don’t see they selling expensive than low land…do u think is worth to buy? BM people also said very expensive!

@XY , I thk u got the wrong amount. I just bought an end lot unit super link house with extra land of 10 ft width with RM518K after discount. The size of building is real big, 22*50. 2200 sf , a real huge “super link house”. Felt that this is value for money for per square foot price is cheap compared to others as per my visits to other before confirming my unit. Heard they have one intermediate SuperLink house left at rm438 k.

@KK. The price and the land size is given by one of the sales person there yesterday. Do you think they simply increased the price since just 2 units left for the end lot? I did asked also the last unit of intermediate superlink which is RM438K one, unfortunately no rebate for that unit.

Do you guys think if the bungalow is worth the price? I was told the price starts from RM1.38 million & above. I am currently looking for G&G bungalow in mainland area. So far I’ve known:

1) Hillpark (Alma)
2) Tropicale (Alma)
3) Orchard Villa (Tambun)
4) The Residence (Butterworth)

Which one of the above do you think is the best?
Is there any other project (G&G Bungalow) which you guys would recommend?

I personally like Hillpark for its hilltop luxury lifestyle concept. I really like he bungalow design as it is modern with central court yard n nice view. Even though I can’t afford to buy, I thk it is a good price for it is a real big bungalow with 5000 sf in build up and will be close to the new Alma commercial hub.
Others, what ‘s yr view?

Orchard Villa in Tambun is very big (=7500 sq ft) and I was impressed by its design, but the location is not good as it’s near chicken farm & feed meal plant.

@Shawn
The Cendana residences is a lower cost option;though a little obsure in overall location. [schools, kampung -industrial feel] The hillpark bungalo is impressive; what puts me off is the “zero lot” They might as well make it into luxury semi Ds, by joining them instead of having each hope face a giant blank 3 story wall, 10 feet away.
The setting in Jesseltin Hills is also lovely. You can probably get 2 semi Ds, with ample $ to spare on renovation; cycling distance to Jusco.

I do agree hillpark has the “luxury lifestyle concept”, just hope that the developer really build the house according to the concept planned.

If wait for finished build and the real concept display in front your eye then probably the price will increase at least 20 to 40%.
Like Tropicale Residency, when soft launch, the terrace house just 318, but now cost 400+
Why Alma house increase a lot!!! Due to what reason?

@ Shawn, I thk u mean 7000 sf for land in Tambun Indah.. The build up is much smaller with less facilities.. Lower maintenance fee. HillPark bungalow has 5000 in building size.. I remembered HillPark has bigger land size too… If u like the lift , then Pearl villas will fit u as HillPark does not have lift..

@Gary
The Orchard Villa that I mentioned is not Tambun Indah. It’s a project right in front of Tambun Indah, and is developed by Oriental Max (if not mistaken). The build-up is 7500 sq ft (3 storey) with land of around 7000sq ft. Very impressive build-up and interior, but so so location.

I went to Hillpark sales office sometime ago and was shown the video. The concept seems to be nice, but whether or not the developer can fully fulfill the plan is another question. Even if they do, I am also concerned about whether the residents would adhere to the G&G rules & regulation and also the willingness of monthly maintenance fee payment.

@allen
cendana residency is not G&G, it is only guarded i think…but their semi d and bungalow designs are nice and impressive though…location is not so good like what you said kampung + industrial area but it is not heavy industrial like perai…hillpark location might be better…highlands mah…jesselton hills some of the units very near to palm oil and factories too…house design is nice …

@Shawn
tropical residence to me design not as nice as hillpark,jesselton hills and residency cendana…
the residence near HV cable…need to consider this also as it might be hazardous to your health….about 200 to 300m distance considered safe..?

@Shawn HillPark is a G&G concept on landed strata. It gives the mgt better enforcement authority if resident does not pay the mthly maintenance . The project is managed by EUPE corp, a public listed co with good repute for more than 25 yrs. My friend who bought a unit also know them. They are from SP n the co which owns Cinta Sayang Golf Resort in SP. Quite a nice club if u have been there.
Like some are saying, if we want to wait until completion to see if they actually do as per concept shared, the price might have gone up a lot more later..that’s the risk.
For myself , other than the concept I like, the “location “is a very important consideration to me. It affects the future appreciation of house price for a project. Heard Jusco is opening soon in Alma which is only less than 5 mins away from Hillpark. Anyone heard about this? Is that confirmed?

Yup.. that is confirmed.

AEON signed the S&P with DNPland already

Tropicale and Hillpark, which one better?

@gg
Hillpark clubhouse facilities is only for the residence, whereas Tropicale clubhouse is open for outsider, hence cheaper maintenance fees.

@eddie
If i’m not mistaken, tropicale is the first project of GTM Land, whereas the Hillpark is developed by a more established developer.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

The property price in main land (BM) is way over too expensive now. We (few of us) went around and checked on all the new project launching and we summaries that almost 90% of all the new launching units are fully sold….do you believe it!!!???

We are talking about RM 500k, RM600k, RM 700k or even RM 800-900k for a SemiD and Bungalow unit here…

We can not rule out the fact that there are some rich people who can afford for this prices but besides this people, who else can afford for this price?

We did a calculation among ourselves, in order to buy and stay in a RM 500k – 700k property, the household income (total family) has to be more than RM 10-14k per month, otherwise, it could be hard to maintain the life style….

Think carefully before you let all the greedy developer ripe your skin off, and drink your blood!!!

We are not asking you NOT to invest but we urge you to invest carefully

One word – the prices are over sky high now and supply more than demand now!!!

We are a group of people who try to bring the truth out of the dark!

Good luck!

Super agree wit u@J

@J

The prices for all things and stuffs in Malaysia jump high now due to inflation, now mostly new house prices in BM are ranging around rm500-rm800, so it is usual lah… not because of ppl became rich now but it is more towards inflation topic, and ppl not have much choices and need to force themselves to buy now. They scare if they not buy it now, the price will jump again in future due to inflation…this is true also !. So for investment or own stay, better choose the good location and good concept !! You won’t regret if the property you bought is in a golden location plus equip with good concepts such as GnG.

Although Jusco might be operated in Alma area in future but this location still far away from penang bridge. if plan to buy, choose property at central of BM such as housing property near Song Ban Keng road !

Dear H and T

Lets do some brain storming here

As I mentioned in my last statement, to be able to live comfortably in house cost RM 500k-800k, the owner of that property has to have at least household income not less than RM 10-14k per month.

Having to serve house monthly installment for around RM 4-5k per month for 25-30 years can be heavy and stressful.

What happened if something happened such as economic down turn, job cut etc…..Its hard for that owner to continue serving RM 4-5k monthly installment.

If that happened….whats next?

We all understand the negative impact of Inflation, all prices goes up etc but does our income goes up?

90′s, general monthly salary for fresh engineer is approx 2k-3k, and now 2012…engineer fresh out of school also more or less the same.

What we are saying here is – invest carefully!!! and just don’t listen to the developer or their sales person.

Just trust your own feeling and judgement, is it possible all units in new project launching sold out in 4 hours?

Possible??

Think for yourself and decide!

Hope the truth reveal soon!

I can’t believe that all units in new projects can be all sold out in 4 hrs. But I know that many started bookings before the launching in most projects these days…
My personal view is that hardly few will invest on mainly properties unlike Pg or KL.
Well, we can’t deny the fact that the prices can go higher in time to come like many other countries that are more advance than us like HK, Singapore etc…
Hope the truth will review soon… ! Haha!

Reveal not review

I agree with J as I can’t believe those newly launch houses can be sold out so fast. I think the developers are using this “psychological tactics” to sell off their units. As the developers know the current trend and Penang lang are “kiasu” type. For example, when 1 shop is crowded, no matter the product is good or not, you will have the feeling of trying it as many peoples are queuing!

@gg

Once completed build for Tropicale club house it will be a bigger club house in BM. Although it open to public but i believe the yearly member fees is not cheap. If we stay at Tropicale is free for life on the member. Only pay the monthy fee abt 80+.
Segregate is good for those busy ppl which have no time to use club facilities. Then we have an option to only pay the basic maintenance fee. No need to bare full maintenance cost
For hillpark, use or not use every month you need to pay 200++ …
Just a choice which 1 you like! Beside, Tropicale although is first project, but the concept perform very good! I’m not SA or try to ask you guy buy. just share what i know.

@kiasu
say until penang lang = singapore lang

@ NAND agreed with u that if u want cheaper maintenance and shared public club facilities, then go for tropical. If u want more exclusive and private facilities, then go for HillPark..
Of course, then u need to pay higher maintenance fee. That’s the options and difference…

@Shawn
1) Hillpark (Alma)
2) Tropicale (Alma)
3) Orchard Villa (Tambun)
4) The Residence (Butterworth)

Is depend on the developer background, location, concept, price & build up area. Personally, i like Hillpark & Tropicale. Location let me feel more fresh & away from industri park. Alma area will be hot in future with DNP developemt on Alma Business Hub, Tesco, & Jusco. More and more others developer will come to annouce new project soon…

@NAND
May i know where you get the information there are more and more developers will come to announce new project soon.

@gg

Info just “guess” from my mind. As we can see now the developer is focus on here. Lats time Alma place is quite and no traffic jam one.

How’s the public security/safety in Alma?
How about other trivial issues such as house flies, traffic jam, etc.. How’s the situation there?