Haiz why so serious? Just tell the truth la. Now their tan sri liew already go to ecoworld d… bye bye.. now their biggest shareholder is PNB. Hope they can still delivered quality to customer without Tan Sri.

normally SP Setia project in penang selling very fast but now different story after talk over by PNB, setia sky vista respond very slow now.

@Ranee
You still need to show 2 banks loan reject letter to SP Setia to get back the 6K.

@Never

For SP Setia, NO need. Other developers may need.

@Ranee
You better ask again. If without condition, everyone already book and including me.

they have no black and white to confirm, just talk only. If they refund to u sure not full because want to deduct the service/documental charges

Demand is so bad now. Developers, including SPS will do whatever they can to lock you down. Not that easy to get your refund. Good luck.

supply over demand in penang condo, seems that the pricing will going down.

calvin :
supply over demand in penang condo, seems that the pricing will going down.

will see that when the resale prices are down alot (abt 20% from peak)…has that happened yet?

buyer88 :

calvin :supply over demand in penang condo, seems that the pricing will going down.

will see that when the resale prices are down alot (abt 20% from peak)…has that happened yet?

Wait long long… Tan Kuku…

If we would to look back Penang property history, the average of property price is always at upward trend.

What I can remember is prices of property escalating from 200+/sq ft to existing 500+/sq ft taking reference at Relau area in just 10 plus years.

Those who keep waiting and hope for prices to go down might end up in deep regret and might not able to afford the higher price of property in near future.

Ranee :
If we would to look back Penang property history, the average of property price is always at upward trend.
What I can remember is prices of property escalating from 200+/sq ft to existing 500+/sq ft taking reference at Relau area in just 10 plus years.
Those who keep waiting and hope for prices to go down might end up in deep regret and might not able to afford the higher price of property in near future.

Well said. I was one of the stupid people who waited for property price to go down. Kept telling myself, supplied more than demand the price will definitely go down but in actual fact the price never go down and hike like crazy. Penang island is really really small. Land is limited.

Those who missed the boat will be group into 2 groups.
1st group of people will be the one who are not able to afford any more as the property price already hike out of their reach and without choice they force to turn to LMC, this group will be the most pity one.
2nd group will be the one who are still able to manage but need to paid a much higher price compared to few years back still considered as lucky one though psychologically felt imbalance.
So, today’s property always comparatively cheaper if you were to look back after few years later.
But, after all it is still your choice.

what boat ?
You mean missed the Titanic, large ship that going to sink anyway ?

But the current fact is the boat is still sailing, steady but slow only.

Titanic was still sailing steady, full speed some more before sinking.
Titanic captain and passengers also didn’t know their fate.

@Raining

Like you have said, there is no sign of titanic going to sink before the actual sinking, then it is called faith. Nothing can be done to prevent it.

Unless you are telling me you are seeing the same sign that current boat is going to sink like titanic, else you are just not talking about fact. Give some facts then only people will listen, or try to listen. Haha….

i can say now the property price is hike just the transaction is slow due to bank loan tighten and buyer be aware of GST implementation next year… price drop issue is not happend actually

Those that wanted to buy has already done so.
Those that wanted other to buy citing missed boat and etc are obviously from the developer side. Do anyone really care if a complete strange in internet become poor because he missed the boat and living In cardbox? No one cares.
So my point is if so confident this is sure win, why don’t go borrow money from ah long, sell your kidney or whatever to buy all the available units of Sky Vista since its a sure thing. Any taker?

Bought few properties for stay n rent.. waiting for price to gone down but it never happen for the past 10 years… will keep buying when cash available… most probably before gst

Visited the office. I think it is already selling more than Rm600psf d. Got 550psf?
Most of the time some home buyer still buy from developer due to special packages, lower down payment. Sometime lack of cash is the reason Y not all can afford to buy resale.

Hows the response for this project so far? Any update?

@Starfcuks
Heard sales reaching 40%.
Most likely at time of officially launching, SPS will remove the 3% early bird discount.
Current offer package for early bird is 5%+ 3%.
Show room (1153 sqft) half way done, to be ready may be March.

@Ranee
Where is the show room built?

@ leewei80
Its at Pisa SPS sales office beside the main entrance.

@Ranee
Thanks Ranee..

actually what is the price for this projects? plan to sell my old condo and buy this one

Two 30 & two 34-storey towers that house a total of 426 residential units ?

Any idea when is the S&P signing and stamping date?

SnP signing expected on end of March.
Price adjustment most likely after 2 weeks from official launch date.

anyone bought on today’s official launching?

massive fireworks show on SP Setia’s welcome center

What r the selling points of this project. RM psf appears high as compared to surrounding projects including Pinnacle. Still undecided to proceed

@ JC
What is the current psf for Sky vista.
I got mine at RM 560.

@ Ranee
Still around R560 psf for lowest floor of the pool facing units.
The earlier bird discount is still on which has been there since their soft launch. Appears to me that their current sale offer is not attractive enough to draw buyers interests.

@Ranee
Actually, what is the selling point for this project? I take a look at the location, and it seems that we need to passby a low of low-medium cost project to reach it. The problem with low-medium cost is that the carpark allocated for them is insufficient most of the time, that is why the road leading to Sky Vista narrowed from 2 lane to 1 lane because of illegal parking. And i dont think our state gov or the police dare to do anything.

The future usage of the vacant land in front of setia vista is also still uncertain. It may end up with some unfavorable projects or buildings that may affect the future value of Sky Vista.
Somemore, the maintenanace fee rate is high. Surpassing the rate of some of the supercondo in Pg. At RM0.35psf excluding sinking fund, monthly fixed expenses for the bigger unit will be already around RM500++ per mth. For sure, buying for collecting rental will be a big NO. Rental may not even sufficient to pay back the bank loan interest; set aside the monthly installment. For investment, who is your targeted buyers? There will be thousands of newly completed condos by then, not to menion affordable house. For own stay, the credibility of the new management of Setia is questionable? They are now a GLC company. Can they still deliver top class quality? Only time can tell.

@JC
Frankly speaking Sky vista package is not so attractive compared to their previous project.

Cons:
Location wise(relau),
High maintenance (0.35)
Uncertainty of vacant land use in front of project
Surrounding environment (many LMC)
Traffic condition unknown after many surrounding projects completed
Pros:
Build quality(setia)
Low density(460)
Peaceful and quiet site location(near hill, front facing landed house)
Better landscaping (by Japanese architect)
Bigger land (6.15 acres) vs number of units
Comparatively psf not too high (<rm560 if manage to get lower floor ) vs number of units
2 free car parks even smaller unit (900 sqft)
B

Pls give your commends if any on above.

Ranee :
@JC
Frankly speaking Sky vista package is not so attractive compared to their previous project.
Cons:
Location wise(relau),
High maintenance (0.35)
Uncertainty of vacant land use in front of project
Surrounding environment (many LMC)
Traffic condition unknown after many surrounding projects completed
Pros:
Build quality(setia)
Low density(460)
Peaceful and quiet site location(near hill, front facing landed house)
Better landscaping (by Japanese architect)
Bigger land (6.15 acres) vs number of units
Comparatively psf not too high (<rm560 if manage to get lower floor ) vs number of units
2 free car parks even smaller unit (900 sqft)
B
Pls give your commends if any on above.

I support that.

@Ranee
So any of you still buying? If yes, why so? Also, the promotion valid till?

I am 1st owner of DPiazza Condo, 1300sq ft. Initial developer
price is less than RM300K. Why so unreasonably expensive now?

I bet you won’t go to Gurney Drive during New Year Eve/weekends
due to crazy traffic jam and worry about parking, right?
Imagine if you have to put up with this traffic worry every day

Trust me. When you move-in, only 2 things really
concern you, unrestricted traffic any time /any day
especially you have school going children with tuition ,etc.
And , always a place to park your car

Other things like breathtaking sea view/ hill view after some time
you don’t even bother to look. Quality is within your control as
you can renovate when and as you can afford. You can make it
your unit a 5stars hotel standard .

My sincere advice is drive in and drive out during morning rush hours and after office in the evening, for weekdays and weekends. Is it bearable?
If you are frustrated now, probably you won’t be even keen to move-in after OC.

@Ranee
I don’t know about you, the layouts of all units are unique and provide more privacy to its residences. eg. the scene inside the house will not be easily being seen by people@corridor; Main doors are not directly facing each other. For traffic, personally, I think all developed areas in Penang are more a less the same.

Buying from Reputable developer is definitely Yes, so do I.
But, use common sense and logic thinking to evaluate
whether the price is reasonable in relative to the location?
Don’t be naive. All developers will want to sell to you
Highest possible price, as they are answerable to their shareholders

@FreeThinker
I assuming you had visited the setia showroom.
The interior layout so far is one of the best I ever come across.
Beside the few points you mentioned, all the rooms facing outside which will be brighter and more outside view.

@Charlotte
You had mentioned few bad comments on sky vista , the unbearable traffic jam and car park which may happen after completion of sky vista and also unreasonable price of sky vista.
But these were the common things happens on any project in Penang nowadays.
Anyway I respect your point of view as you had also spent some time on typing these.

FreeThinker,
You mentioned ” all developed areas in Penang are more a less the same”
Are you sure? Relau is not the same, could you please accept that reality…sigh
More than half a million condo you know

@Stella

What? More than half a million condos? You’ve got to be kidding! Hell!

> rm350 high maintenance fee really scare ppl away, beside that, this Relau location really has nothing to fancy about, also nearby a lot condo supplies from GSD and IDEAL…

definitely oversupply in this area, for own stay is still ok, for investment definitely a NO-NO.

no wonder after 3 months soft-launch (since December2014) still not manage to clean stocks. Good luck SP Setia…. LOL

I just speak from my personal experience. I have already stayed in that area for few years. The traffic is bearable to me. Slightly heavy during rush hour in the morning and heavy traffic during Monday pasar malam day. Other time, traffic is smooth. I have neighbor who had sold his house in Tanjung Tokong area and moved to here because he can no longer bear the time he spent on the road daily. Going to and fro his workplace in Bayan Lepas daily.

@FreeThinker

We need more people like your friend selling their Tanjong Tokong house, otherwise the property in Tanjong Tokong is really going crazily expensive!

@Pino

Agreed with you about the high price of Tanjung Tokong but surprisingly, certain units of the Tamarind project of E&O (Non sea view & low floor) in Tanjong Tokong are only priced at almost the similar pricing as Sky Vista. For investment, I think Tamarind will stand a bigger chance for investor to reap bigger bucks. They have much more selling points:-
1. Good Location as most people in Pg perceive Tanjong Tokong is a classy area, furthermore this
is Straits Quay.
2. Reputable Developer
3. Stone throw away from Tesco
4. Next to future PORR
5. Units are semi furnished with built in kitchen cabinets and air cond
6. Possible to get expat tenant
7. Low maintenance cost at RM 0.20 psf
8. Reasonably priced
Although it also has its downsides such as high density & possible insufficient car parks in future. Looking at the present sentiment and response, I guess the Pros outshine the Cons.

But Sky Vista is just a project in Relau, a common working class residential area, not to mention foreign workers territory. Don’t u think this is also crazily expensive as well.

Try to imagine if someone asks you where u are staying and u have the option to chose the following answers:-
1. I am staying in Relau
2. I am staying in Strait Quay

Which one will you prefer?

Sorry maintenance Fee for Tamarind will be RM0.25 psf

@FreeThinker
Tamarind 1000 units, of course maintenance fee should slightly slower. But too bad, assessment fee will kena kao kao liao.

FreeThinker :I just speak from my personal experience. I have already stayed in that area for few years. The traffic is bearable to me. Slightly heavy during rush hour in the morning and heavy traffic during Monday pasar malam day. Other time, traffic is smooth. I have neighbor who had sold his house in Tanjung Tokong area and moved to here because he can no longer bear the time he spent on the road daily. Going to and fro his workplace in Bayan Lepas daily.

Agreed! Depend on where u work, if work in Bayan Lepas better stay in Relauloh.
If work u town area then stay in Tanjung Tokonglah, its OK for pensioner also

To me, this project is good for own stay. Lower density as compared to The Tamarind. Staying in Tanjung Tokong area is good but imagine you work in Bayan Lepas. You at least have to spend an hour plus on the road before it gets to your work place. The demand in Bayan Lepas is always there. Job opportunities in bayan lepas is in tandem with the house demand. I would say almost 40% of Penangites working in Bayan Lepas.

So the promotion ends already? If not, any idea when it will ends?

I don’t think the Promotion will end as sales has not been encouraging.
Actually, if you guys (Sky Vista) are first time house buyer, why not exercising your privilege of
purchasing the I-Condo (Bayan Lepas) or other affordable housing project which is located in better location.

You can always buy a low density, luxury, by reputable developer, etc etc later.
In Penang, if you are yet to buy or own a property, that’s a big advantage.

Stella :I don’t think the Promotion will end as sales has not been encouraging.Actually, if you guys (Sky Vista) are first time house buyer, why not exercising your privilege ofpurchasing the I-Condo (Bayan Lepas) or other affordable housing project which is located in better location.

maybe they are investor-wannabe, want to goreng house. I-condo you can’t goreng.

however, now go goreng house in this relau area is suicidal…..good luck!

It is a good thing if all the potential buyers are mainly for own stay. At least it will not be turned into worker quarters. Owners should be happy also if maintenance Fee is high. At least the management will have enough fund to maintain the condo, provided every one is paying the fee.

Base on the facts of DIBS being removed and new rules on bank loan, believe most of the potential purchasers are for own stay and I assuming this is one of key factors why Sky Vista sales slow down compare to its previous projects.
For those could be investor I thought they are busy now at Tamarind as its more attractive.

jayden :

Stella :I don’t think the Promotion will end as sales has not been encouraging.Actually, if you guys (Sky Vista) are first time house buyer, why not exercising your privilege ofpurchasing the I-Condo (Bayan Lepas) or other affordable housing project which is located in better location.

maybe they are investor-wannabe, want to goreng house. I-condo you can’t goreng.
however, now go goreng house in this relau area is suicidal…..good luck!

Bro, those people with brain would not choose this area for investment. Most of the purchasers here are buying for own stay. Those investor wanna bes or investor are so busy with The Tamarind. You can see the sales trend of Sky Vista, clearly most of it are for own stay which is really a good sign. At least you wont see a nice condo with 10-20% occupancy rate like it happened most of the newly built condo in Penang. Get it?

@Starfcuks
6-7 years ago, they say the same thing on Soutbay, look what happen now?

@PGHome
what do you mean?

@Starfcuks
I mean 6-7 years ago when i purchase Southbay residence for 7xxk, people also say stupid etc, coz its near kampung, so far away, got pig farm etc. only stupid people will buy etc, and look now?

@PGHome

Yeah, you’re right. Southbay is as dead as salted-fish. Now Mah Sing come up with this Icon Residense at flood-prone Pykett. The funny thing about this Mah Sing is that every project also award winning one. “Tua kong” or not! Ya lah, award can be easily bought nowadays, and only those projects that are not popular would need the help of “awards” to sell.

“Sau tong” lah Mah Sing! Get the h#ll out of Penang!

@PGHome
Thats why. Penang properties always got its value just certain favourable area will have much better price. To me, i fancy Tanjung Bunga area but think of the price per sq ft i back off. Well, you made the right choice.

@Starfcuks
Agreed with u Penang properties in established area will always got its value. If one goes to compare the price of double storey terrace in Setia Vista vs tripple storey terrace in Setia Pearl Island advertised in Mudah, the price different is not much. In fact, RM psf in Setia Vista is slightly higher.

Only paper value.

@FreeThinker
Relau area also can be invested. But may be more applicable to landed property.
In year 2010 I bought DnP Sentral Green triple storey terrace for 8xxk with extra land.
Now sales price as advertised in Mudah ~1.3M on standard unit.
At that time, my whole family against it and saying so many foreigners living at that area. Now they diam diam.

@FreeThinker
The question is, you mean Batu Maung 7 years ago is more high class than 2019 Relau? When an area is already established, you won’t make much money in terms of investment as the price is also at a higher range. As for investment, always buy things that other do not dare to, take calculated risk. I believe SP Setia will not dissapoint the buyer, hence i have decided to go ahead and buy one .

@PGHome
May I know your booking unit? Price/sqft?
My booking unit at 9th floor, 1153 sqft.
Setia said promotion most likely ends 2 weeks after official launch(28 Feb) and SnP signing end of Mar.
You may take a look the show house beside the sales gallery.

@Ranee
Tower A or Tower B? Somehow i find the show unit is really small for 1153 sq ft. Anyone think so?

PgHome,
You mentioned for investment, Always buy when others dare
Not. True but to certain extend. At such location, and with the
high price, with affordable housing flooded the market,
I don’t see the wisdom of calculated risk

Property investment is like playing musical chairs with
more and more people joining , not realising the music will
stop….

My parents with Island glades and Sri York , my elder brother
with Bayswater and I was late comer but still ok with DPiazza.
With more than RM500K budget, might as well take a risk
with Double Storey landed freehold house in Balik Pulau…

At least, the potential of capital appreciation is higher with
the current new road expansion/flyover at Teluk Kumbar.
Relau, no one can visualise how bad the traffic jam would be
and with all other bad points, really not much positive outlook

The irony is this developer also had a gated and guarded
Double Storey/SemiD with clubhouse project planned in
Balik Pulau, just don’t know when to launch.
That one if pricing is ok, then really worth the risk.
That one considered a real calculated risk.

Charlotte :
PgHome,
You mentioned for investment, Always buy when others dare
Not. True but to certain extend. At such location, and with the
high price, with affordable housing flooded the market,
I don’t see the wisdom of calculated risk

Just to share, my parents bought 3 semi-D in Pantai Jerjak Sungai Nibong almost 30 years ago, and most of our relatives at that time stays in Georgetown and Air Itam area laugh at my parents for buying houses at such an Ulu location. 30 years later, who is laughing now?

Correct. True.
But, I am staying in Jalan Pantai Jerjak XX, exactly your so called Semi-D area now.
Excuse me, I knew the neighbourhood, none single owner owned 3 unit Semi-D la.
Any way, Charlotte did mention Balik Pulau which is probably equivalent to Sungai Nibong 30 years back. She is right. Comprehend her writing in total, she is really good in argument

Charlotte is spot-on in her rational point to point reasoning.
What aspect in Relau warrants your investment acumen for a possible future appreciation? Location is definitely out, pricing is neither a selling point too-in fact is it overly priced at today’s market climate/availability of affordable housing (I-condo, etc). Traffic, will only get worse…So, you tell me? Please…

@PGHome
I only know a lot of units at southbay residence pending for sales

ong :
@PGHome
I only know a lot of units at southbay residence pending for sales

Absolutely right.

@Starfcuks
Tower B facing main pool.

@Stella
I also stayed in Pantai Jerjak area (BSG semi D).
Over there, the semi-D were spread around quite big area and did not have any specific so called semi-D area.
For staying more than 7 yrs there I could not tell any owner got own more than 1 semi-D, I don’t know how you can tell? Do you pay visit to every semi-d house?

Come back to Relau location.
Do you know Setia Vista 2 storey terrace house, now the average price ~ 1.1M to 1.2M compare to launching time at 2009 only merely <600k.
The figure itself tells the truth and it beaten the so called expert point of view.

By the way, I owned another 3 storey terrace house also at Relau, The Sentral Green.

@Stella
Nobody know what would happen after 10 years. If you are to critize Setia on this project at such location. What about Ecoworld and Sunway investing in Paya Terubong? So called the place for the poor. Penang is just a small island, this beautiful island has got its value. As long as its in the island, the value appreciation is always there just the matter of time. If you talk about traffic, tell me where is the place in Penang without traffic issues?

Ranee,
You, yourself acknowledged that a 2 storey terrace house was formerly priced at RM600K.
What made Relau’s Condo now to worth more than RM600K now? And you guys still buying. Traffic improvement? No but getting worse, and no one knows when will be the worst.
Another shopping malls nearby? New schools? All No.
Instead, there are more flats & more foreigners. The window of opportunity for investment in Relau is closed.

Ranee,
I am happy for you even if you owns 10 unit of MoonLight Bay Bungalows in Batu Ferigghi.
Really. Any property bought earlier will definitely a blessing. We are talking at current condition at that place with that selling price.

Starfcuks,
I don’t have a crystal ball to foresee what lies ahead in 10 years. Neither am I interested things that are too far ahead. I am just mindful of the present facts. Relau 1 way accessibility and traffic conditions are there in front of our eyes NOW to assess. Any new road expansion or flyover ? No. So, You tell me. It is a fact that traffic condition will and can only get worse. This is a reality that you guys conveniently ignore, hoping for this problem will solve by itself later.
So, you expect me to wish you ” Get keys and to live happily ever after ” ?

Starcuks,
I did not and will never criticize any developer. I argue based on hard facts.
You mention a developer in Paya Terubung, well, that is a good one. I was given 2 VIP cards for its concert in PISA. The developer is assessing the market well, accepting the shortcomings of that location. That’s way a landed has been scaled down to Condo Project with generous space and landscaping.

Stafcuks,
You put into me every where is Penang Island will have traffic jam and that’s true.
But, at the same time, You should note that the distance from each area to working places like FTZ Factories, schools, amenities like shopping malls are making the difference. For example, no matter how serious the traffic jam, travel time between Bayan Baru/Sungai Nibong and FTZ will not exceed 30 minutes. Can you say the same for Relau?

@Starfcuks

Actually for Ecoworld’s case, the person who made the decision to buy that piece of land got f&cked big time by the boss. They have finally realized the difficulty of selling properties in that location (expensive properties for this case), that they had to keep revising their project, from landed G&G –> landed + low rise combi –> high rise –> highrise + big garden combi etc. After so many “tua kong” road shows and all, still cannot sell. And now, their only consolation is “Sunway also buy land right across the road, so it must not be that bad, right?”

@Charlotte

Balik Pulau? I am sure you are aware of how many lives have been lost going up and down that hilly road to BP, if you had read the headlines of TheStar newspaper yesterday. Why risk your life? And for what? If you have budget restrictions, Batu Kawan has 100 times more potential than BP. IF you have loads of money, prime property in Tanjung-Gurney area is as good as gold. You only have 1 life, but there are many better investment options. Please choose wisely.

@JC

Well, whether it is true or not that your parents bought 3 semidees in Sungai Nibong, I guess that’s of no importance. But the fact is, whoever bought homes in that area would have made at least 10 times more by now. BUT, so had anyone else who bought homes in Penang island in any area (except maybe Balik Pulau). So that makes the 10 times equals to nothing. In order to have a NETT profit, you’d have to OUTPERFORM the rest.

@funan
10 times? Its more like 15x from the initial price my parents bought. Tell me which house in Air Itam that appreciate 15x ? The fact is that, majority of you here only know how to buy when the location is well develop. For example, you mention Bau Kawan, if you enter now, you are a late comer already, so why bother? Thats not wise if you are a real investor. Real investor is those that already sapu the land and house in Batu Kawan 15-20 years ago.

Stella :
Correct. True.
But, I am staying in Jalan Pantai Jerjak XX, exactly your so called Semi-D area now.
Excuse me, I knew the neighbourhood, none single owner owned 3 unit Semi-D la.
Any way, Charlotte did mention Balik Pulau which is probably equivalent to Sungai Nibong 30 years back. She is right. Comprehend her writing in total, she is really good in argument

LOL, you really think you knew the whole neighbourhood, dont you? Let me give you some hints, our house near padang. Go scout around or even better if you want to meet for some neaighbourly coffee do let me know.

Wei, u all don’t bullshitlah!
This property talk is for us to exchange knowledge & discussing, not for arguing/criticize/or talking nonsence to each other.
Actually Relau is everything bad, only one thing good is the AMENITIES.
Travel to Ayer Itam, Lip Sin, Perkaka, Green Lane, Bayan Baru, Komtar more nearer than those property in Sg. Ara such like Setia Triangle, Reflection, The Clovers, One Residence, Fierra Vista etc. Nak cari makan pun senang saja, nak pergi pasar pun dekat dan banyak choice
No wonder Relau always good demand for those like to stay at this area.
Anything u want u can get it very easily, is so convenience to the residents

Don’t bullshit, Relau is the worst area in Penang.

Actually Relau location is good, only the traffic and the foreign workers spoil it image

Talk about traffic jam in Relau, can only say moderate.
If you ever drive thru Ayer Itam road towards Penang hill or Jelutong road towards town, or Kelawai road towards Gurney Plaza, or Greenlane towards youth park, Farlim towards Batu Lanchang and many many more cant name all, and off cause don’t forget the most popular Penang Bridge at rush hour thats is call jam.
And now top the list is Batu Maung (from 2nd bridge)towards QBM, every evening it took me at least 1 hours to reach my home in Pantai Jerjak. The flyover will take years to completed.

@Ranee

Support your comment..

calvin :
Actually Relau location is good, only the traffic and the foreign workers spoil it image

Those dislike to stay with foreigner surrounded, can move to other places like Balik Pulau or Batu Ferringgi to avoid the FTZ factories

Well Said. Relau is great place to stay after 2 years from now with all the infrastruture established and road expandsion project. Also, Relau is the center link of Air Itam, Balik Pulau and also the FTZ area which i can say is one of elite location in PNG. Surrounding is wil all the facilities required for daily life just a short distance such as School, Market, Complex, Factory, Hawker Center, Hospital, Inti College, Bukit Jambul Hill… etc…
More to come…. Just timing …

@Stella

Please look around. How many affordable homes to be built by the private sector and also by the state government in the near future. Not to forget Pr1ma as well. Traffic issues is becoming common in Penang. Pantai Jerjak, the place that you are currently staying got no traffic issues at all? I really wonder.

@Penang
Yea dude, Relau really sucks. Stay in your mountain. Dont come out. Its not safe at all. 😉

@cl

Agree with you. I wonder why people always complain about traffic Jam in Penang when it only happen in the morning and evening. Normal time is so smooth. Compared to KL is totally peanuts man. KL almost jam all the time.

Starfcuks :
@Stella
Please look around. How many affordable homes to be built by the private sector and also by the state government in the near future. Not to forget Pr1ma as well. Traffic issues is becoming common in Penang. Pantai Jerjak, the place that you are currently staying got no traffic issues at all? I really wonder.
@Penang
Yea dude, Relau really sucks. Stay in your mountain. Dont come out. Its not safe at all.

Agreed! Like a TARZAN stay in the jungle. HeHe

Wait until you have school going kids, then you
will know even 5 / 10 minutes delay is such a significant difference.
I mean you cannot let your children late all the time.
There is a limit how early you can wake up your children, 5am? 5.30am?
Dont talk about tuition in the afternoon first…
Mark my words.

Wait until you have school going kids , only then,you talk.
Traffic jam , you imply it is ok if happens in morning or evening ?
That is the time that matters! No? Sigh

Might as well compared to Jakarta/Mumbai , KL traffic also nothing. Sigh

It is morning/evening rush hours that matters. Who cares other time ?

Affordable homes- thousands and many more. Better location than Relau and a lot cheaper too.

Guys, if indeed good, 1/2 days sold out by Penang standard. The last good one I saw is
Penang world City/ Tropicana Bays Residence Condo.

@Charlotte

Thats why this area have schools, tuition centre and many more amenities? No? Unless you stay in Relau and want your kids to study in school at town area. That would be a different story. And like
@cl mentioned, Relau is a center linked to Ayer Itam, more schools. No?

@Charlotte

Not many people prefer affordable homes due to its super high density. Just like I-Santorini and I-Foresta 2k++ units. And of cos its affordable, what more can you ask right. lol.

I thought Tropicana Bay Residence launched since 2013 or early in 2014? No? Hmmmm I think many people will always prefer a Sea view condo. Like The Tamarind, sold out within a week. Really good buy. Tanjung Bunga/Tokong always the prefer location for most penangites.

We have fanboys from north, south, and mainland Penang.. If you have money, buy all 3 locations…North for Best Location and Rent, South for Cheaper, Closer to FTZ (if you work there), Mainland for Future Appreciation. If you don’t have money, select the one that your top priority. There is no need to argue here.

Tropicana Bay Residence is good?
Ivory quality, 850 sqft, lowest floor, pond view (only can rear fish),cost ~700k, rm800/sqft, came with 1 car park, extra car park only can buy after oc obtain, price unknown (it can be 50k, 60k or anything).
I cancelled my wife’s booking at Jan 2015 and get back refund of 5k.
The sales of above project last for years and NOT 1/2 days.

@Starfcuks
Sea view = as long as can see the sea even from far far distance?

What do you get with sea view ?

@ezalor

@Penang

As long as people able to see the sea from far and it will considered as sea view by developer. I have no idea what would i get from sea view but it seems to be the most preferences for Penangites, No? My house has a sea view, i dont bother to see at all lol.

Actually in you guys opinion, who is the best developer in Penang in terms of quality, landscaping and concept vs reality ?

Ivory? IJM? BSG? Setia? Belleview? Asia Green? Sunway? Reka Indah? Nusmetro?

Starfcuks :@ezalor
@Penang
As long as people able to see the sea from far and it will considered as sea view by developer. I have no idea what would i get from sea view but it seems to be the most preferences for Penangites, No? My house has a sea view, i dont bother to see at all lol.

just a matter of ‘feeling premium’, and developer will add seaview-premium to those units. Seaview premium normally cost additional 30k, 50k or some even 100-200k (if you know one HOT project lately).

Same to those KL properties with KLCC view, those will be priced more also.

Same to Setia Pinnacle also, Pisa & Hill view different about rm50K at the same floor.
U are right, FEELING is a big concern for this issue

@Starfcuks
Correct. So called sea view, can see from far far for small piece of “blue color” area, need to add 100k to 200k. Crazy man. Buy bigger TV screen, that is more realistic.

Just buy a seaview wallpaper and there u goes..hahaha. Seaview without bikini ladies is useless bros. Tiok bo?

Like GSD Summerton also, front view is Gold Coast condo and back view is villa Emas, only corner angle can see the small sea (sea view) but the pricing of this condo is about 1mil. Lease hold title and commercial rate also.

If you go to check the current market price of those older and smaller unit of condo in Relau eg. Relau vista, Desa alor vista etc. Some are already selling at around RM500-RM600 psf. If that is the case, Sky Vista, which is only going to be completed 4 years down the road, will be considered very cheap by then.

@FreeThinker
Support your comments.
But you also conflict yourself between 10 days as you mentioned earlier Sky Vista is crazily expensive.

@Stella
Stella, used to be so active in this thread. But after she brag that she knows the whole pantai jerjak neighbourhood and i invited her for coffee, suddenly became Mute.

@Ranee
That was what I felt after visiting the Tamarind sale office. With the almost same price, I can get a semi furnished unit (lower floor and non sea view unit) at prime location and also from a reputable developer.

@FreeThinker
So…., what is your choice?
Tamarind or Sky Vista?
Investment or Own stay?
For me, Tamarind is totally out if for own stay as most of our family members work in Ftz.
Tamarind still has the phase two to launch soon.

Ranee :
@FreeThinker
So…., what is your choice?
Tamarind or Sky Vista?
Investment or Own stay?
For me, Tamarind is totally out if for own stay as most of our family members work in Ftz.
Tamarind still has the phase two to launch soon.

u can forget about the idea to get a piece of property at STP phase2 at 700psf… for phase 2 the reclaim land cost itself already >1000psf.

Tamarind Tower-B is yet to launch, probably few mths later… perhaps if you are lucky you still can get the ‘last train ticket’ of 700psf E&O property at this prime location… good luck

@Ranee
Buy to keep and hedge against inflation.
But, a little bit hesitate as maintenance fee is high. May not worth it in wrong run.
Do u know why the fee is high despite the facility is almost similar to Reflection.

long run ….opps

@FreeThinker
I did asked the sales people, the answer given was that since Sky Vista will take 4 years to build, by the time it completes, most of other older projects will start to increase their fees taking the factor of GST also.
In general, developer will only take charge of maintenance 2~3 years, after that will pass over to house committee to look for property manager for maintenance. Hopefully by then the price will adjust to a more reasonable level, at least on par with the then current market.
By the way, facility in Sky Vista is much better compare to Reflection in my own opinion.
I also at the stage of hesitation though I got a cheaper and good unit, need to do a hard decision before April.

Setia quality and customer care attitude have gone from good to bad since the change in management. Defects rectification of a new unit takes 3 yrs and still not completed. Once you file a defect, the contractors take 1 year to work on it. When we called, the answer is always standard: “Let me check with my contractor and get back to you!”. Until now, our renovation work is at a halt waiting for them to rectify their defects which seem to take forever. Just sharing my personal experience dealing with Setia.

Sky Vista signing of SnP schedule on April 4 and 5.
Need to confirm with SnP lawyer whether go or not go latest by next Monday.

@Ranee

I received call from lawyer too. So, what is your decision Ranee? lol

@Starfcuks
Very high chance I will drop the Sky Vista.
Reason due to high maintenance fee + sinking fund which will total up to rm 0.385 psf.
What a pity……
If you are for own stay, may worth to consider if affordable.
Next Setia project Sky 8 at SPI club house site, inside source saying >700 psf, will be expecting to launch next year after Sky Vista.
Good luck to you.

I had surrendered my Sky Vista unit and awaiting for full refund.
Instead registered on Setia Solok Slim at Jelutong (near Heng Ee).
Expected to launch year end and consists of 2 phases, phase 1 will be 2 block of condo and phase 2 will be more price friendly comparable to affordable home.
It seems more attractive.

Setia projects cant buy anymore… it is way too expensive and the quality is dropping. No longer the old Setia.

Setia cut corners nowadays. Upon receive the unit, we see many defects. The 3yrs warranty is almost up. But the defects are still there since the day we collected our keys. Problem is if we start renovation, Setia will claim that the warranty is void. If we do not renovate before GST, we are charged with >6% increase in renovation cost. Throughout the past 3 yrs, dealing with Setia has been nothing but frustration. If we pay our own contractors to fix it, the cost incurred can be quite hefty coz these are not minor defects: cracked bathtub, peeled taps and rusty bath fixture, discolored wooden floor, very low water pressure, cracked tiles, cracked walls, bathroom leak. Every time we filed a list of defects, some of it get fixed after 6 mths but a lot didn’t. And we have to filed the same defects again hoping that it will be fixed properly. That takes another 6 months. That is Setia tactics to delay serving the warranty. Another few months left now, but we’re still left with a list of defects that Setia hasn’t fixed. The past 3 yrs was like living in hell to us! We have lost our confidence in Setia. Never will we buy another Setia project.

Personally, i experienced that the customer service delivers by Ideal property for maintenance support is good, i stay in One Residence, their quality of service so far so god, every time i filled a complain for defect, it alaeys delivered according to SLA, sometimes, it might be a bit delay but it always get resolved according to request which is reasonable.

@Ops
I have to agree with u on this. I am facing the same problem also when dealing with their service department. They will only help u to rectify minor defects. For major defects such as leakages, they will only do some touch up on surface. Problem resurface after sometime. After 3 years, they havs yet to rectify my defects satisfactorily.

@Ops

@FreeThinker

Mind to share which project you bought that have this problem?

It is difficult to deal with developer except when you buy the property, I found dealing with ytl is also a frustrating experience.

Setia Vista

We bought the final phase of SPI… the top management changed hands in the middle of the construction and so did the contractors. Since then, Setia’s quality drops. And the attitude changed. Problem with their customer service is “they don’t care”! I even filed complaints to their headquarters in KL. Still nothing changed, no improvement, nothing seems to be able to motivate them to work on our defects properly or take us seriously. So, if Setia (as a reputable company) is treating their current buyers in such manner, what can you expect for the future buyers?

After we filed the defects, we check our unit every week. But Setia did nothing for 5 mths. We keep bugging them “politely”. Not until we scold them did we see some progress. And that wasn’t fixing the defects yet. Setia only sent their site management to check on our units, explaining that they need to postpone the fix due to goodness knows how many festive celebration and public holidays we have in Msia! Raya..Xmas..CNY..Agong Birthday..Thaipusam..Labor Day..! And the wait continues until finally Setia told us that the defects were rectified. They did something but left some untouched or ignored. So, we filed another complaint. And the cycle repeats. It has become our routine to call up Setia Customer Care every few weeks. Frustrating? But we are also totally helpless against Setia unless we want to fork out the money to replace the bathtub or fix that leak or change all the taps in the bathroom which are peeling and popping. But our money is tied to the heavy monthly mortgage… where to find extra money to fix the defects which shouldn’t exist in the first place. Don’t Setia have a Quality department?

For my case, I noted that they were unable to instruct the contractor to rectify the defect as per the correct method. They just followed or allowed the contractor to rectify the defects as per what the contractor way which was cheaper and faster of course but a temporary solution. This will repeat over many times until the defect period was over and free from their obligation. I wonder whether their engineer/supervisor was don’t know or they were already being settled by their contractor. Setia project is normally priced at a premium price if compared to other projects at the same vicinity. eg Sky vista price is a lot more higher if compared to Skycube, imperial residences etc. It shouldnt happens to a reputable developer who used to claim that their house will be zero defect. No wonder their new project sale is so slow. I guess these must be happening to a lot of buyers.

The main reason who chose to buy from Setia instead of other developers was due to their excellent hassle-free after sale customer care. At that time, we didn’t mind paying a little more so that we could rest assured that Setia would take care of the defects promptly. That really did happen to SPI Phase 1 and Phase 2 owners. Defects were rectified within days. The site supervisor even walked through with you to ensure that you’re satisfied. My friends highly recommended Setia to us and showed us how happy they were with Setia Care. Now? I wouldn’t dare to recommend Setia to anyone lest they would have to go through what we do now and blame me for their predicament. I am only one out of over thousands of buyers suffering from Setia’s indifference. Imagine everyone starts sharing their ill-treatment to friends, relatives, and coworkers. Of course, Setia’s reputation is tarnished already.

What is the cheapest unit? And what is the take up rate? If the take up rate is low, is it possible the developer will lower the price?

@PGT
I don’t think Setia will lower the price as they already locked the price and SnP document is ready. SnP signing is just at the corner on the coming weekend.

@Ranee
Which unit did you drop out? How much is the unit? Can i still get the same early bird discount now?

@PGT
B-09 unit facing pool. ~650k.
Detail pls check with Setia on discount.

Setia Sky Vista still worth to buy for investment or own stay:-
1). Build quality – Setia still keeping their reputation even change boss. Setia won’t disappointed their customer.
2). Developer – Visit to few property office including SP Setia, Ideal, BSG, GSD Land, Mah Sing. My impression is Setia still keeping a very good service as compare to other.
3). Density – Low density (460) with bigger landscape (6.15 acres).
4). Car park – 2 car parks for small units (9xx sqft). 3 car parks for (14xx sqft).
5). Location – peaceful and quiet location near hill. Front view with sky vista landed property.
6). Area – Relau. Although a lot of people concern about the traffic jam and foreigner worker. But i have different thought here. The main load at Relau area have been Widen. Another alternative route is to use bukit jambul exit. Foreigner worker problem expected to be resolved as Penang Goverment in a plan to move all foreigner worker to Juru Worker Village.

Few of my friends bought from the setia road show. I’m still considering. High posibility will buy a unit for own stay before the early bird offer end after the road show.

@Jojo Teh
Nice advertisement!!!! give you 1000 likes. ask setia no need to do all the billboards, buntings, newspapers, banners d. you alone help them advertise will do. you thought just because of your bullshit comment will help? the answer is a BIG NO.

@Jojo Teh
Hello? low dense? the land beside setia sky vista is reserved for its phase II!!!Another few tower of highrise. dont know whether is affordable house or not. I am going to cancel my booking this month, as i was outstation for last few months. Setia always use this kind of trick to persuade ppl buy. it is definitely not a ethical developer. i am truly deeply madly damn disappointed with the way they do business. like their setia pearl island club house which going to turn into condos. I BANNED developer for me. better go for ecoworld, e and o or sunway better.

such a good advertisement

Ecoworld is the new SP Setia, so i suggest you guys move on there alright

@Jojo Teh
Before u go out to Relau main road, u have stuck at the inner road to wait for the traffic light as this is the only way out to the main road causing very long Q every morning especially rush hour.
Penang goverment planned to move all the foreign workers to Juru worker village, i don’t think so. It’s impossible!!! How long? 5 years or 10 years? or……………. no action

New project beside the bus stop. Surely super jam. Those stayed at Setia Vista and Alor Vista must be swearing like hell. Good luck and all the best to Relau folks.

I am quite happy with SP Setia the professional way of handling the refund of booking fees though the sales of Sky Vista is slow.
For the cancellation of their project, just need to fill in the cancellation form stated with one reason and just it. No bank loan rejection letter required as most developers practice today.
The full refund check is ready within 18 days from the day cancellation made.
It ready shows the way of culture how a reputable company should present and sideline others.

I dont get it why people keep criticizing SP Setia or this project. If you dont like it, DONT buy it. Setia is not pointing a gun and forcing you to buy their project. Go ahead and buy whatever project from EcoWorld or any project that launched in Tanjung Tokong/Bunga. Regarding the defects frustration that some of you guys have faced. Curiously, I thought SPA have stated clearly that whatever defects that you have found upon receiving your keys, the developer has to rectify it within 30 days or something? Otherwise, Legal action shall be taken against the developer and they will have to pay a penalty or something? Correct me if im wrong, just out of my curiosity.

New sports complex going to be built at Lebuh Relau.

“The complex will have an Olympic-size swimming pool, a diving pool, 10 badminton courts with a gymnasium and a dry gym.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Metro/Community/2015/04/17/Good-news-for-athletes-City-council-to-build-RM214mil-disabledfriendly-sports-complex-in-Relau/

@Never
That project you mention will be a multi sports complex by MPPP

If you don’t like reading negative comments, don’t read it. Alternatively, you can create a FB fans page supporting this developer and worship there daily. The sports complex will make traffic jam from worst to toxic.

Ranee, I don’t see how a lax of control/management of deposit to secure a unit link to reputation of a developer? Might as well use a 555 small book and record whoever interested. LOL . Really could not fathom the level of management can deteriorate to such low level.

Ranee, you and this developer must understand what does a deposit means before trying to imply that this developer is better than other developers. Like wise, can a developer unilaterally call you with any 1 reason and cancel your chosen unit? LOL

if you guys can afford more than RM650K, and ok with bad location. better buy a big freehold double storey house in Balik Pulau. At least landed. Now, teluk kumbar expand road. every day jam also cannot tahan.right, Balik Pulau consider far now, you got landed for your children

@Charlotte
More like critizing than negative comments. Am not a fanboy of SP Setia. Why so much hatreds? Yep true, go hide yourself in Balik Pulau and dont come down. Less car and no traffic issues.

@Charlotte
@Steven

From both of your comments, it is difficult to see the relevance to the cancellation of booking on property purchased.
I assuming these were due to lack of knowledge on current property transaction.
Suggest do your homework first.

@Starfcuks
In Msia, consumer rights is very weak. Even in forums like this, you can feel that developers get more supporters than the suffering buyers. So, unless you want to make big headlines in the newspaper or complain to politicians asking them to step in on your behalf or bring the developer to court, I think 99.9% homebuyers are begging for the developers’ mercy despite the statement in most SnP says that developer must rectify defects within 14-30 days notification. If you have the spare cash to hire a lawyer to fight with developers, you might as well use that money to fix those defects and renovate your house. The property law also says that you can hire your own contractors to fix the defects after the stipulated date on your SnP, send the billing receipt and request the developer to fund your cost of repair. But, developers are good at dealing with such cases. They can find a million reasons to deny your claims. They can even tell you that those defects are your faults, nothing to do with them! You can’t really out-smart developers!

@sigh
Thanks for your useful information.

Any one brought Setia Sky Vista recently?
Any special promotion from their triple A rewards?
What is the price/sqft now?

@Anson Chew

Let me know if you are interested in getting 1 unit there. I am qualified for the triple A rewards. So maybe we can share by half of the 3% cash reward of your purchase price 😛

@FreeThinker
You’re right! The same leakage beneath the bathroom resurfaced! Setia’s last fix is just temporary. They didn’t even bother to add silicon to insulate the floors. They just tightened the same cap again. But, I thought they tightened that last time. Any way, Setia considered the defects fixed. And I’m just as dumbfounded as you.

Hi, can I know how much for this project now? Any unit left?

@Starfcuks

how do i contact you ?
tq

@Jay
Can i have your email address so that i can email you my contact number?

Thanks.

Previously, the land was said to be used for institution purpose.

anyone interested for this project special package kindly email me bodyglove1997@hotmail.com for more details

this project still have 50% unit left, some more friend to friend introduce will get 2% com.
Those interested can go to Setia show room to find a chinese lady age around 40+ weekend, she will give u all the details and she is not Setia staff.
That day i went there met this lady persuaded me to buy or introduce friend to buy can get 2% profit.

Anyone know whether the selling price & the rebate increased or decreased ?

May I know the selling price now and the available sft? when the project will be done?

Starfcuks: pls email me efsee@hotmail.com. I am planning to get a unit.

Search in Facebook for “Setia Sky Vista Condo” page/places for progress updates and showroom pics.

@Starfcuks
is your 3% rebate still available?
please contact me via shlimsk@gmail.com

This area only have ONE road out to Relau main road, can imagine that traffic constrain every morning at the traffic light junction. Due to this is a high population area because a lot of housing and condos surrounded, is not worth to invest or own stay. Traffic problem is the main issue at this area especially peak hours

Yes, jam like shit.

now they come with attractive package, worth to buy?

Setia Sky Vista @ Sungai Ara (Special Package)

✔Rebate : 10% + 5%
✔Zero interest until VP
✔FREE 2 Years maintenance fee
✔FREE Legal & Stamping Fees for SPA & Loan Agreement
✔Choose Fully Furnished worth RM90,000 or cash Rm90,000 (collect until VP)
✔Sign S&P within 14 days get Rm1000 dining voucher
Sky Vista for 1153sf ones SPA Rm737,390, rebate 10% + 5% + Rm90K= net Rm 540,468.45

@worth2buy, I last time book a unit before the priority launch, i think level 10 -1153 sqft facing directly to pool view around @ 710k, after discount 5%+3% = 650k without any freebies or maintenance fee. If this is the price, maybe my family consider to buy since it is cheaper around 100k. Furthermore, the affordable house built by BSG also around 400k (smaller size, commercial shops below, density). It is a house good to stay but not investment.

@Ryu
ok thanks alot! =)

i went viewing last week, package quite attractive and considering taking fairview or sky vista…sky vista low dens comparing farview ..any idea?

i heard the hill behind will be near the PIL1 highway. So u might need to tolerate some noise for a few years.

Would like to know more about this project, please email. Thanks.

Would like to know more about this project, please email. Thanks.

Interested in RENTING low floor unit (level 8/9/10) at Sky Vista from July 2019 onwards. Long rental contract ok. Owners only, strictly no agents.

@worth2buy?
for me is worth, i just bought a unit lvl26, 1153spf with 3 car parks

@Danny
Hi Danny, which tower? at what price?

Can we have a WhatsApp group merely for Setia Sky Vista (SSV) owners only? =)

@Mark
Hi Mark, I’ve got a low floor for rent. Write to me at bobbycwx at gmail com to discuss further

Bobby