Not happen to me, as i have received 2 bank offer:
RHB Bank BLR-2.45% (Home loan acc only)
PBB BLR-2.40% (Link with current acc)
I will choise PBB as it have link with current acc.

If we look from developer scope, sure they which to have more qualified buyer, to avoid last minute buyer drop off. For other buyer like me, i would think right move from the developer, to ensure once the SnP signed, smooth run for the construction.

What do you think?

If so, have you sign the loan agreement already without signing the SNP?
Is it safe to do so?
Next week is already mid of the month, not sure Tah Wah will call up to sign the SNP or not.
If they continue to drag like this, I think high chance people drop off as so many project coming up lately. Developer need to take their way out to beg the customer instead on chasing buyer to sign the loan agreement with readiness of the SNP.

1st concern is does the bank will release money or nt if SnP nt sign yet? if yes, what if the money already release but later come out the SnP the size is smaller or shorter? or any changes as nt according to as what previous promise? just my personal thought.

@Jason
That’s why, so I don’t think I dare to sign until I see the SNP. I also dont understand why they need us to sign the loan agreement while SNP is not done yet. My downpayment of 10k didnt bring me any benefits since Oct and indeed if I save in Bank will still can get some interest :-(. I think I may need to search for the new housing project after Chinese new year if the SNP still not ready.

i think seldom have case where developer will ask buyer to sign loan aggrement 1st b4 SnP, dunno why they just cant wait SnP been signed first just sign loan aggrement. if sign loan aggrement, later anything regret due to SnP and want to withdraw, that time have to waste alot of money.

@Jason

I don’t think the developer asked the purchaser to sign loan agreement, i think they requested purchaser to sign the loan offer letter only because the future package from Bank may not be good as 2011.

@Suelynn
Hello, the offer letter got valid date. They cant change it even 2012 not so good!

Bottom line is, why is the delay?

i signed the offer letter from bank already. If you eventually do not sign the SN, the offer letter will be void…

@Jason

i believe the bank won’t release the money if no SNP. Only if you sign SNP, the developer will bill the bank for progressive payment.

Finally, Tah Wah have alert me, waiting for call from Lawyer to sign the SPA.
Do you have any update from the site, can u share?
Today just pass buy MahSing SouthBay Plaza. Wow, very good view and environment. But the price is too expensive.
1 units for the middle level 1100sf will cost RM800K after discount, only 2 room. Price is 600psf. One unit of this small apartment can but 1 Orange Villa semi-D already.
To me, buy Ornage Villa is a right move.
Others, pls comment?

Just received call from tah wah on SnP lor….i think may be can sign it b4 CNY le…alamak nid to prepare $$$ when sign SnP liao…huh..but good le…sign sign ki ..i heard that officially lauching will b on 27-Jan la n they ve miniture house(terrace type) ready for customer to view too….let’s go n tengok lor…not sure the price will ki or not after the official lauching lor…hahaha..

@AhTu
Did you ask them what is the new price with the official launching?
When is their show house going to be ready? Very excited to see.

@Grace

Halo Grace, i did not asking them on whether the price will ki or not after lauching lor..but i believe it will ki la especially after show house is ready for viewing later on lor…this is a trend ma…semua orang tau lor…hahaha…developer said estimated show house will be ready around Apr/May lor…i buy for stay 1 la so the selling price will ki or not in the short term not impacting me le…hahaha..

AhTu, me too laaa ……. for own stay.

Me too, for own stay but will feel happy if the price increase….

which unit or type you bought? grace?

the salesperson told me they only include S&P legal fee but not loan legal fee..is it true? cos i saw a comment saying that both S&P and loan legal fee are included if the lawyer firm is the same..

@Mr. Tan

ya..developer oni covered SnP legal fee lor…loan legal free will not cover by developer le even u use same lawyer firm la….

by the way which legal firm is handling the spa and loan? and if since there the loan legal fees is not absorbed by the developer wonder is the lawyer is giving special discount for it, if not i will rather use my own lawyer.

We can talk to their panel san and accociate, can some one talk lead and talk to them, then share here, then we can him also. If not, we call all look for a lawyer and deal with him as a group, to get better rate.
The San and Accociate lawyer name is Mr Oh. Tel# … u can get from developer or call Telekom Directory 103

@K8
Agreed with you. Anyone volunteer to do so?
K8, which unit you bought?

Hi Grace, winnie here, i bought unit 97 …. u?

Ok ….. i have since SnP …… now it is time for us to group up and look for our own lawyer.
San & Asso, Mr Oh said will give us a good price. But it is better we need to bargain with him in a group. Mr Oh said without rebat, RM8K++ buy with Rebat, RM5-6K. I am thinking if we can push the charges to RM4K or below. Now, give me whoever want to participant in my time. I only need to know how many in this forum group, so that i can talk to Mr Oh with this number. Do not need to know your actual units. When Mr Oh call you to sign the load letter, you need to tell him you are from this group.
Let start here, I am No#1 in this group. Pls do not repeat your number. Who is next.

Please count me in…i’m no 2

Come on, we need more supporter.

i’m on too…I’m #3 lor….hehe

hi, i am #4. but i had signed with San & Associates. Total charge – RM7500, this is even after rebate as they said they give good discount for Tah Wah.

Hi OrangeVillaGroup, could you give me your contact via my email cpsuperb@yahoo.com?

Hi OrangeVillaGroup, pls count me in, which means i am no. 5.
Aside from manutd, who had sign loan agreement?
What is the total charges will be incurred to owner? (legal fee, stamp duty etc.)

Count me in, I am #5.
How come no one call me to sign the SNP. Shall we contact them or they will call us?

@Grace

Halo Grace..dun worry…developer will call u 1…it is just a matter of time nia…u can save ur 10% meanwhile …hehe..

Is San & Associates the only panel lawyer? It will be good if they have a panel to choose from.

Anyone know what will be the new price during their lauch on 27th Jan 2012?

@manutd
Rm7500 SNP legal fees? is this after the rebate approximately 5K from developer?
can any one advise?

@chin
Not SNP legal fees. SNP legal fee is free if you alos use Tah Wah’s panel lawyer for loan agreement.

RM7500 is for loan legal fees (after discount) + stamp duty

@manutd
hi manutd,

thanks for the information, however, where are we suppose to pay the Rm7500?
if i am not confuse, it should be when the developer transfer the title to owner.?
by the way, have you signed the SNP and do you know which are those panel bank appointed by Tai Wah group ? i went to Alliance bank this morning to inquiry about the loan, unfortunately, alliance bank is not the appointed bank.

@chin
Hi Chin,

You need to pay RM7500 (or around this amount) when you sign your loan agreement.

When the developer transfer the strata title to you (may be 1 year after obtain OC), then you need to pay some fees around RM12k to RM15K.

As for the bank, it is OK if you do not go to the panel bank. The important thing is you have to go to Tah Wah’s panel lawyer for your loan agreement in order to enjoy free SNP legal fees.

If you want to go for the panel bank, i think RHB is good but their is not flexi loan.

By the way, does anyone sign SNP?

@manutd

Anyone has signed SNP ????? Please hand up……

Tah Wah eh lawyer called me liao …Will sign tomorrow or Sunday lor…hahaha

@chin
Halo Chin, u can find my previous comment on which bank offer what lor… i plan to go for UOB lor cause only UOB got forthnightly payment scheme ma…it will save our interest a lot in long run laa if using fortnightly payment .. btw, UOB just approved my loan laa.. it is BLR-2.4% for whole tenure lor and it is a semi-flexi loan package…

@AhTu

i was on the site this morning to pay my deposit.
i saw someone is signing the SNP….
i got to know from hong leong bank that offering BLR-2.4 with zero stamp duty ( absorb loan legal fees) i will need to find out more details next week.
by the way, which plot you buy? my plot is 103.

@chin

ya..better find out detail b4 sign loan agreement lor…but i’m sure forthnightly payment scheme will save us lot of interest $$$$ lor…u can ask UOB to print the details for u on how ur interest will be calculated and saved for long run..for me, it will save around 65-70k equavalent to cut short the loan tenure to around 4-5yrs lor…go check and c….besides, UOB can let u loan till age 70yrs but Hong Leong bank only gave till 65yrs nia lor…hehe..

I bought semi-d unit….glad to have u as part of orange villa eh residence lor..haha..

Hi Orange Villa buyers, any idea if Carnation Villa by Oriental Max with the same land area but a vast difference in price is worth the buy. To me the location wise s kinda ok, but comparing to orange villa standard unit terrace the price is so much cheaper.

@AhTu
look like UOB shows you the amortization table for you… i will check with them to find out more…anyways, thanks….

@AhTu
last time i did apply that UOB intelligent home loan, i was surprise when the banker told me can save so many with their fortnightly payment, when i ask detail about that, i say is fortnightly payment mean i have to pay 26x payment/yr which equivalent of 13xmonths/yr(with more payment of course will cut short the years of payment), he says no, he says is only 24x payment/yr, that make me more curious. i ask him to prove me how does it calculate, he unable to show me. after that i manual calculate using excel, i still unable to get so huge saving based on what he told me. advise you better ask the banker detail calculation of how does the saving come.

@JC
no need to worry how they calculate, just dump money to the loan account anytime you want…you will see the differences. however, make sure you fulfill the monthly installment amount stated on the loan agreement.

you may want to get the loan amortization formula from below link. Just key in the extra money that you want to dump in, you may see the total interest that you may save. please void up if you see wrong calculation.

http://www.bebas-hutang.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Loan-Amortization-with-Chart-V1.xlsx

@chin
not say to worry the calculation, just the UOB agent say their intelligent home loan can save few ten thousand with the same monthly installment amount(same monthly installment amount as other bank but they can save few ten thousand thousand at the end), they have to show and prove how it save ma, it is customer right ma, takkan sign liao at the end did not save, i better sign other bank which offer is better?

@chin
moreover, the withdrawing fees for UOB is RM50/transaction, maybank RM25/transaction, OCBC RM10/transaction, if their intelligent home loan end up cannot help to save money, it is better take up other bank. this small charges take into consideration when take up a loan.

Went to the site today, very disappointed with the exterior wall paint color of the model house (which said to be following this color for the actual house).

It’s dull Military green and the roof is typical red color, no contrast and very bad taste of color combination…unlike the image drawing above, grey roof and beige main color for exterior….

Although the sales said the actual color will be lighter green but i was too upset to sign the S&P.

For the future owners of Orange Villa, I would like to seek for your cooperation to request Tah Wah to change the color to what they’ve shown in the image drawing.

Tah wah said we can change the color after they’ve passed the house to us 1 year b forming own community, but RM180/mth maintanance fee+sinking fund is not enough apparently even we gathered the fund for 1 year!!!

@hybr1d3d

i personally prefer orange colour as the theme is orange villa… any buyer have the same though as me?

Wow… a tricky situation.

Uncle was there this morning too because ada free makan. LOL !!! But of course I need to sambang with the bankers to get some info too

Anyways, I think the color is okay la… not too horribly ugly like a kindergarden or blue white like police station. Ha ha ha…

Besides, color is something that differs from one another. hybr1d3d may like grey rood and beige walls, while another ah pek may like purple walls and pink roof. Like that how to use the sinking fund after 1 year. Ha ha…

Me thinks, the most important thing is to get to know each other better, form a good rapport with the future Joint Management Body with developer, then after strata title is issued, form a team of responsible and effective Management Council. Even that, you will face an extremely big problem when transfer from JMB to MC. Ha ha ha….

@Uncle Ho

so uncle… which unit you buy????? you sound like a good man……i like you.. hahahaa…
// Russel Peter rocks!

I am ok with the color of the model house …… if Orange or yellow, you will feel it is too bright and heat. Like our penang Setia Pearl Island, some in Orange-White color …. not so good. The wall paint for Orange Villa is ok …. lighter is better

@chin

Uncle Chin,

I didn’t buy any units. Just go there for information gathering and meeting people Most importantly, free makan mah. Ha ha ha… Just kidding.

Can pls give me commenet here-
Is tah wah a trustworthy developer?
If compare orange villa with kensignton residence, which 1 is much more worth to buy?
I am going to orange villa launching today.

@BK

orange villa … come be part of the comrade here…..:)

@BK
I am more prefer Kensington, because the house there is more brighter than the terrace house here, semi-d house only RM 588,00 but Orange’s terrace corner cost RM642,00++ or more. The developer is Boon Siew Group and Orange is Tah Wah- new player in this project.

Uncle BK,

Tah Wah’s MD is formerly one of the board of directors for Tambun Indah (kalau tak silap). He sold off all his interests in Tambun Indah then start his own property development company. According to the salesgirl, Orange Villa is almost just like Palm Villas in Jalan Mengkuang Butterworth without the cons. For example, 22′ instead of 20′ and some other things too which I forget liao.

So, Tah Wah has somewhat some experience in property development I’d say.

Now… if you consider the other new player – Kee Lin Development …. that one really nobody know who they are

@kang
u will be regreted if u buy house in Kensington, the houses either facing busy railway or main road, not the quiet place to stay. I prefer the residence in quiet place such as Carnation Villa in Juru (behind Carrefour Bukit Minyak), double storey terrace just from RM408k, suitable for small family.

@ET

i agreed your stand point.. quiet environment is what we call home.

i see this property as quite expensive as compared to residency cendana semi d and bungalow, anyone know this project and comments?

@JC

Halo JC..thanks for the advice. I did ask the bank person to show me how they calculate the interest on forthnightly payment, and the bank person did print out the details for me, i noticed in the details calculation print out, we can save lot of the interest vs monthly payment scheme. Not sure why your bank person that u r dealth with previously dun want to print out the details for u…may be u can check with other bank person that willing to share u the details calculation…hehe..i think u r right, it should be 26payments/year as every 14days u nid to pay liao ma…the bank person that served u previously not professional la…haha

@hybr1d3d

Sure bo? if the color that u mentioned is confirmed liao then I agree with u laa….the exterior color if in dull military green with red color eh roof will looks not very contrast n in bad combination of color lor….how lam lor…hope that tah wah management team can hear our concerns here lor….hope that they can reselect the color la…i think the combination of the color that they shown in their brochures/above main picture in this blog looks more cantik lor…..how lam liao if tah wah insist to go with dull military green + red color for roof….hmmm..hope that it will not looks like kelinga eh house later…hehe

@AhTu
the banker did show me the statement of their customer, he also show me comparison chart with other bank, the figure show really save alot, but question is with same installment amount i still dont understand why it can save few ten thousand. their paying schedule is 12 and 26, let say ur installment is RM1k, they will pay RM500 each at this 2 date, then end up can save few ten thousand. initially i thought is 26payments/year so that why it can cut short the payment coz we adi pay extra, but the banker say only 24 payments/year, make me more confuse.

@AhTu
http://www.aufic.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53:fortnightly-payments-bargain-or-rip-off-&catid=34:refinance&Itemid=53
some article to understand fortnightly payment, i still doubts UOB claim that can save few ten thousands at the end.

@JC

u can asked them to show u urs one lor…they sure can print out the details for u just for ur own loan laa..find other bank person to serve u laa… it should be 26 installments/yrs la not 24 installments/yrs lor….because of 26 installments per year n oso ur principal will be deducted every 14days..then it will make u save the interest in long run lor if compare to monthly installment one, the principal will be only deducted at every 30/31days nia, plus the installment just 12 installments/yr…interest is count daily ma…hehe

so far only rhb bank gave special rate to orange villa project, u can get blr-2.5% for orange villa…but this rate only for conventional scheme nia lor…

@AhTu
haha… i take up other bank offer already. coz the banker cannot prove me how it can save with their fortnightly payment and still keep saying only 24 payments/years, and will deduct on 2 fix date of each month and at the end can save few ten thousand and cut short few years.

@JC
hello JC,

which bank you go for? what packages they provide?

@chin
i take up ambank full flexi loan already. coz i feel flexi loan is more suitable for me although RM10/month charges. by the way, i am not Orange Villa buyer:)

@OrangeVillaGroup
i am no 6…

Hi Chin, Kang and uncle Ho, thanks for comment. I went to see the kensington show house, it really attract me.

@hybr1d3d

just checked with sales person, the roof will be in grey color like we see it in the brochures le..not the red or maroon color la..

OrangeVillaGroup :Come on, we need more supporter.

halo orangevillagroup, now we have around 6 ppls supported ur move lor, so wondering how to get best price on loan agreement parts when deal with lawyer ah ? any ideas? hahaha..

hello everyone, i am the newbie in the orange family. need all of you guys feedback on the type C, is it a good buy?

@orange manic

halo orange manic – got type C meh? i just know got type A(terrace) or type B(terrace), semi-D and 2 bangalow nia lor…hehe…

Hi. I m no 7.just bought a terrace unit at orange Villa. Also the first property in life.
Would like to check anyone of you out there decided to install home lift?
It cost 98k, I m still considering.

Fuyooh… 98k for a lift? Siao meh?

Just some info to share from Uncle:

– All lifts in Malaysia needs to have annual inspection by DOSH
– No DOSH certification, cannot operate (a.k.a lift is not safe to use)
– If you install lift in your house, you CANNOT hold the emergency key. Only the company servicing/installing the lift can hold it
– If you kena trapped inside, the company servicing the lift need to send someone to your house to free you using that emergency key
– There is a monthly fee to maintain the lift payable to the company. For example, Sigma Elevators charges about RM700 / month for each lift for emergency response, spare parts and maintenance

😀

Bukan main murah oi~!

Haha…

p/s: This information is for high rise building, for landed houses like Oren Villa, maybe some info is different

By the way, about the construction-on-going show house, does anyone nearby noticed that tah wah actually built the foundation properly? (I mean for piling)
Hope someone nearby could share the info, cuz I don’t remember any pilling machine enter the site

there is always pros and cons. if affordable, why not? that’s actually total of 4 level. if you have install a lift, every level will be fully utilized and think for long term, will be very very useful when old.
i am still waiting for their quotation on the maintenance fee, but home life may not need dosh certification. it is differenet from commercial lift.

Yeah…. if its worth it for you, then just install the lift.

For uncle, when I’m ols until cannot climb stairs, I’ll just move into my apartment or single storey house. Ha ha ha…

Is underground TNB cable for this project, any idea?

@Micky

Yup..as told by developer, all cables(TNB or TM) n longkang/retention pond will be underground. This is 1 of the tah wah’s selling point for this project le…hehe

Ah Tu, type C is atually consists of 3 units in the last roll (lot 142, 141, 140) of type B Terrace which is slightly smaller compared to the rest of the unit in the same roll. the build up is 20×72 instead of 22×72. The price is about RM40k cheaper of course. I have booked a unit in type B terrece lot 106 but not sure if it will be very hot or not coz this unit is right in the middle of the roll. I have all the while live in the Condo and first time buying a landed house so no experience in choosing the exact location especially the terrance house.

can anyone tell me is that a window in the roof top’s bedroom?

What are you guy’s view point about the property market in this year especially in mainland market? lots of people foresee that the market will slow down towards 2nd qtr of this year? is it the right time to invest in a relatively high-end property (for BM market) such as orange villa?

Please advise.

Orange manic, as what I understand from developer,the roof top is just an open space, up to you to convert it to a room or not. I think this highest level sure hotter than the others level.
As for investment opinion, I have no clue about it, I plan to buy for own stay.

Hey guys, how you all think about the open concept that wiout fence?

look more spacious

pros and cons. if got kids, it’s not safe to play at your own garden (if you stay in semi-d), or car garage (no fence). save money to install auto gate.

get some friend either steam boat or BBQ at top floor………how about that!

sure very hot one ……

I just realized… no fence also means cannot have dogs….

don’t know the house rules will put that down or not….

If i will be the JMC, i will not allow big dog. Small Small doggy, close one eye.
So, pls dont elect me as JMC. Or else, everything will be strict.
By the way, if you want Orange Villa to be high class and high value, we need to be very detail and strict. Those want to rear big dog, or cow, pls go to other place. Orange Villa is not well come. Btw, the earlier day when the developer manage, developer have to start with very strict. If not later day, JMC will find very difficult to corrected back the situation.
Anyway, i an JMC in one of the penang condo, very strict one ……

Anyone has sign the SNP and what is the charges for the legal fees?

@Villa Villa

Good….we like strict ppl to be our JMC lor…hahaha..

But make sure the developer by strict on securitym if not, we will screw the developer.

Yes, developer has to be strict from the beginning. Palm Villas is the best example. The developer wasn’t strict from the beginning and allow residents to do modifications as they wish, turn out, a lot of creative home modifications was done. When residents took over the JMB, they issues quite number of warning letter to few owners. But, what is done is done, can’t change back. Hopefully, orange villa will not become like palm villas.

that’s largely also because people do not really grasp the concept of strata title properties from the first place..

All (if not most) of them think,”It’s my house I do what I like”

Sadly… people with such mentality is a lot

Any one know whether any unit available still for orange villa?
interested to buy for own stay

I believe to all

I believe to all of us who are in this forum may understanding GnG house is value due to same design and same color. No external renovate and the house will look very organize and neat.
I believe most of us seen other non GnG taman, where one neibor renovate intensively him house until it look so much special and different.
E.g. you can see in Penang, Taman Asley Green Semi-D house in YapChorYee Road, one neibor fully renovate and utilise fully his garden compound and cause him neibor everyday have to face the wall. This have make their Semi-D house look lousy and weirt. Such a million dollar house, making it like this. That is the reason i dont by Semi-D, becuse i dont which ATu and AMiao will be my in-corporative neibor. Heart pain if he reno without your aknowledge.
Our friend AhTu here, good luck to you as u buy Semi-D. But we hope all Orange Villa resident could be good and considerate person.

Message to developer (you know me),
when you do selling the house, pls tell those potential buyer, straightly follow rule. 1st or 2nd year developer management will be straight, when JMC take over, may be even more straight. If they think they need freedom, pls dont buy GnG, later JMC will conflict with them.
Pls dont let them think that JMC will relax the rule.
I also another JMC who buy Orange Villa, i have use to confront resident who are not follow rule and stuburn. We all do not like fighting or police case in the guard house in Ornage Villa also.
Lastly, Orange Villa will be you ‘life’ advestiment for your upcoming Orange Residence or Avenue. The success of Ornage Villa will help you to sell high price for other project.

We all need to create a good culture in Orange Villa, not only in the net or this forum, we need to stand up and show your self and in future when any issue happen in our garden.
Pls throw away like this:

1) This is not my issue, let the guard to handle this.

2) This is not my issue, let JMC committee to do their job.

3) Out JMC is sleeping, swimming pool got out stranger and not wearing costume.

Involvement from all are needed.
JMC is not earning single cent, you all need to help them. This is volunteer social work.
Normally people do not like or shy to by JMC.
Always think if you are parcel owner, do u want to be JMC?
If you answer is not, then you better support current JMC.
A lot of pain, tear and time behind a JMC committee, your may don’t know.

One issue at my condo in Penang, escalate up to MPPP counsel, i was ask to explain to MPPP (Dato Bandar Puan Pattaya), i went in and screw all the MPPP counsel with the reason of very weak support from MPPP in handling complain from my resident. I walk out from the meeting room with full of satisfaction and proud as i have told MPPP the weakness of their support. Hope that can improved.

Today i buy GnG, with all this experience, hope it can help all the resident. Developer next time when form JMC and pass the account to us, better be very detail. You have very experience JMC here.

@WinnieWowWow

Good le ..i like strict rules too..i’ll vote WinnieWowWow as one of the JMC member lor..LOL..hahaha…

@KO

i heard oledi sold 7788 liao…but i think should be still have lagi la….u can call sales person(katherine) to check on it kua lor.. hehe..

@AhTu
Do you have Katherine contact no?

@KO

u can try this number and c –> 012-502 7898. hmm..looks like it same as Tah Wah eh contact# listed on top of this blog..hehe…may be her company eh mobile#..hehe

4 those who not have ki hui to c tah wah news in Guan Ming Jit Poh previosly…u can get it in tah wah eh website liao – http://www.tahwah.com/images/20111123PDB14C.pdf

Show house available for view for this orange villa?

@ahbeng

Developer is in the progress ki show house now, agak around this coming April/May balu eh ready..if u go to the site now, u can only c the skeleton of the show house’s building…they’re now in building the 3rd storey plus its roof if mistaken….hehe

soli..typo..should be “if not mistaken”..pai sei pai sei..

Im interested at swimming unit, anybody want sale ?

does anyone gets the updates info from developer about how many units are still aavailable? The latest info I got was only left 13 units so far. Is that true or the developer just wanna create a false demand?

Anyone can share???

After clearing all my doubts of this project, finally joined the community, Signed Lot 134.

Lot 134 cost RM 598K ?

@hybr1d3d
welcome….. to the community.

@hybr1d3d

good decision!! welcome welcome…hehe

was the kitchen for type B terrace split to wet & dry kitchen or 2 in 1 with no partition in between? If it is a 2 in 1 kitchen, Wow! it will be a smoky and oily house when cookihng loh! Anyone can tell me?

Open concept, 2 in 1 kitchen.
I also hope that developer can split the wet and dry kitchen.

anymore unit available? how much monthly maintenance cost?

@orange manic
Why not just put a table top together with the stove and gas tank in the garden terrace then it will definitely Eli ate the smoke and oil in the house, however it would be unsightly…heheh

Hey all,
make sure you all never never build any brick wall or anything that make you house look different. The value of GnG house us, all house look very organize and look same. In design and colour. If you do this, developer manahement will after you, if not, future JMC will look for you. Conflicting you….. if you really want your house look unique to other, pls dont but GnG or Orange Villa.

Hi AZ, pls don’;t suggent something that make the GnG house look ugly. Anything want to make extra, do it within internal wall. Even the land is belong to you, but you are still guarded by the rule, cannot build extra wall or paint different colour.

If you insist to do this, surely value of GnG or Orange Villa will not appreciate very high.
To other buyer, pls pass this message to anyone who buy GnG, GnG need to be look organize and good.
Developer who sell this project, alos should not suggest for buyer to do anything look weirt …..

@WinnieWowWow

I agreed with WinnieWowWow !!! haha…

Fully agreed with AhThu and Winnie. Management and JMC should go after those in-cooperated buyer. If developer allow, then go after the developer. I am another experience Apartment committee who buy OVilla.
Look like, we will have a very strong and experience buyer here. Good for everyone.

>>sue
Almost the price
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Btw, I agreed with Winnie, however, because only partial of my car porch is covered by roof, I’m thinking of installing convertible roof (only expand when neccessary) hope there is tolerance for this

You unit is bigger land …. if do a roof, look ugly the whole row …. i would suggest not to do this ….. hybr1d3d ….. u better buy other place.

surprised to see such a strict rule for jmc..where is the freedom anyway? remember you are not staying in a luxurious prison taman…where is the love i mean this is 21st century and we are not practicing communism, maybe i am a bit harsh but deep inside everyone might have their own ideas on how to improve their own houses to become their dream houses…you are pushing people nowadays to buy their own land and build there own house…thats not fair to enforce something you think is right and oppose something you think is wrong…what is the basic concept of G&G community? it’s not restricting others but work together to improve the community as a whole…i believe if other investors want to buy your house in orange villa in the future, their decisions would not solely based on ” your house does not look the same like others” and back off. I believe they would value the facilities and taman environment more as a whole…they are not going to buy one row of houses right? so why they bother so much about others which are not interested to sell?

If a same row of house extend here, another extend there, one build awning here, the other build pondok there… sorry, the future price will not good.
So far we have Ahtu, winnie, villa, agreed this point. Who are u and where r u from? Pls … u dont buy here to avoid conflict with JMC …. if you buy, read carefully the SnP and Mutual of convenant ….. JMC will take this to against u, if you cari pasal to renovate ur house without management approval. management can get people come and dismantle your illegal building. From day one, we want developer to be very strict. Or we will be very straight to the developer.
Jo, you better go and input more knowledge on strata title act, before you publish your narrow input here. To us, if we let one to do their own way, mean we have open the flood gate to all other.

Fully agreed with Grace, expecially those who buy semi-D.
If one side of the semi-D extensively reno, the other side will look very ugly and people will be very dissapointed to have neibor like that. The beauty of a semi-D is both unit look symatrical, but of one side reno, it will look bad. Price …. sorry, many people include me will not buy house like that. Totally not discipline a lot.
Jo, pls dont join Ovilla, dont think we are welcome you.

Jo …. i am new here, but after read thru above, you are really no experience of staying in Strata Title condo or apartment. Pls dont get your self in difficulty and make other dislike u. We better go and buy non-GnG house. Even u buy non-GnG, if one neibor have you reno house, neibor will be very ‘TuLan’ u. but he cannot do anything on u. I would agreed above other buyer. We need to make Orange Villa the best GnG in Bw/Bm area. Good for buyer/us and good for TahWah Land. We buyer and TahWah have to work together to make OV a success. Glad to see most buyer here have high awareness. Let us working togetehr to chase away greedy and selfish people from OV.

@WinnieWowWow

Don’t worry! I hv been leaving in Condo/Apartments all my life so I know pretty well about what strata title means, and I m sure AZ was just joking with me only. I m glad to c most active bloggers such as Grace, AhTu, WinnieWoW n the rest r very protective of the interest of OV, best still, some of u has involved in JMC in the past. That means the value, appearance, high standard of uniformity of OV is assured. Besides those factors, I think the harmony & closeness amongst us living in a GnG is also vital so to keep a peaceful neighborhood community. Give ppl a benefit of doubt, ie: JO, He/she may eventually agreed with our practice and rules of GnG concept had Jo realised that it just for a sake of protecting the value of OV. I m of the opinion of making them understand the GnG concept instead of discouraging them to join OV community, this is like showering cold water to those potential buyer if they really like OV. just my two cents worth~ (I not from the developer’s side, just may be one of your neighbour to-be)

@XJH

As of last week, there are about 35 units unsold, mainly are terrace type B.

@Kitty

Me too! the kitchen should be a open design! I m suprised that nobody has ever highligted this point..for more than half a million house, this is something that the developer should have been considered and look into, since Tah Wah’s tagline is ” Perfect living through the generations”.. OV is about the family living concept, not the soho concept! So, Kitchen design is very important to entice the perfect living..they promise to deliver, then they should deliver the promise based on the corporate tagline!

>>Katherine, pls highlight this to your management.

sorry, typo error..Correction: what I meant was the kitchen should NOT be a open design!

Haha….dude meaning you wanna do it at during afternoon, izzit?
But so far I never see people doing that if you doing that pls invited me! Ok!!!!!@Allen

chill guys…that was just my own personal opinion after seeing all the discussion about JMC
i am new here too and i have been staying strata title condo/apartment but this is landed property and such a strict rules being placed, do you think it may discourage potential buyers out there? remember in this forum there are just a few of you agreed to this, they might be some buyers out there not being informed about this. if u happen to read more about deed of mutual convenent, you will know that it does not being guaranteed by law. you can check with your own panel lawyer as this is what i heard. don’t worry as i am just searching for a house to buy and happens to browse through orange villa and saw a lot of comments here which interests me to voice out opinions and get advises.

apologize if i offended anyone here…

@jo
Halo jo, i think the ideas here is very simple when we talked on no changes are allow for exterior design of the building that bound by strata title, let’s imagine what will be the whole condo/apartment/landed GnG looks like when resident there suka suka redesign the exterior looks of their building?? or painting different color of their units different with other units? or suka suka gantung ah ma n ah kong eh shorts pant ti windows or balcony …haha…whole condo/apartment/landed GnG will surely looks not neat and not nice lor….how lam lor…

i think if the person want to make his/her own design or change to own like color or etc on exterior of the building, then that person better go buy the property with individual title lor…GnG community concept will not gam e lor…hehe..this is not related to strict or not strict rules, staying in GnG is like staying in one community..the residents staying in GnG concept will need to have a midset that we’re sharing all facilities including the outlooks of the whole condo/apartment/landed GnG, that’y we need to pay the monthly maintaince fees, to ensure all facilies in there in “healthy” stage …haha..

thanks ah tu, but individual titles can become G&G and manage their facilities in healthy stage right? its just that owners could not change their house exterior…

Jo, we can see a chance of behavior from you after got many heat from this forum. We will come you to join us and we work hand in hand to make OV better. If we think we will have conflict or you come it and group another group of selfish people to contest for JMC, then OV will fall into another minot political arena. All JMC will effort will drain into ‘fighting’ and confronting’ each other. Then sorry, i will not buy here any more, because OVilla will look like a mess. We dislike because we cannot accept ur lacking knowledge. Do you know AGM can set law that can control your building? DO you know JMC can ask MPPP/MPSB come and dismentle your illegal buildning and awning? If you don’t know, you should read more papers.

Wow !!!
Very hot this forum, can see some one got ‘beaten’ after some wrong saying.
Half Million price for a house, not play play one ….. if you talk wrong thin ……… boom boom boom !!!

uncle ho, i didnt change behavior because of heat, we are here to discuss not to get heated and fighting…when i tried to say my opinions suddenly there are a lot of people giving feedback intensely which i should apologize if i have offended you all. i believe i am not the only one that is lacking knowledge of strata title but they are a lot of them out there too. thanks for the info regarding how JMC can do to enforce the rules. but understand strata titles will always belong to developer unless it is being transferred to individual title, then JMC formed by residents still can do this although it is developer’s land?

WOW… what a loser…

Why steal my user ID when replying to jo? Are you that sad?

Jo, ignore that previous ‘uncle ho’. It’s not me… it’s just some loser with no guts to use his/her own ID

oh ok uncle ho…that’s fine, i just need advises and clarification on how jmc and strata titles works..thanks

Seem like we have 2 Uncle Ho in the forum. But don’t fight huh …. I suggest both of you could use a different name, to avoid causing miss-understanding.

May be i am a hot uncle ho …. sorry my name clash with you.
May be i should change to Brother Ho …. sorry for the clashing.
We should support input from AThu, Villa, WinnieWo, Grace and a few more…. And we should immediate corrected wrong infor spread by Jo. Because he should use a more ask first first before Jo said GnG resident could reno and go freedom to reno up to individual preference. What a wrong infor given.

jo :thanks ah tu, but individual titles can become G&G and manage their facilities in healthy stage right? its just that owners could not change their house exterior…

Halo Jo, i think individual title can become GnG provided the resident in the taman can get the consensus from local authority(for mainland is MPSP la) first lor, if they can get that, then they can gated their taman liao, but normally not that easy to get the approval from local authorty la..u know la…some roads in the taman will be or need to be used by other taman eh resident too ma n the taman roads mostly can tong lai tong ki eh ma…hehe..even u can get the approval from MPSP pun, those stuffs like land, lamp post, road and so on that resided inside the gated areas are belong to MPSP too n not belong to the resident there cause of the title that hold by them are individual title, not strata title….unless the resident there can pakat together n apply to change their individual title to strata title lor..but that will involved lot of $$$$$$ n time n resources liao, if one of the resident there don’t want to participate or sign the appropriate application letter/forms, then peng chun liao lor…they won’t getting approval to change to strata title liao…so be careful when u want to buy a property with just having guarded and no gated plus individual title…once your sebelah taman still got empty land that can be developed 1 , then in future when new developer develop that empty land n make both taman eh roads tong…then ur guard that all the while secure ur taman 1 will be no use liao that time….hehe..

hmm…i hope my views is right here..just share share my views nia la…haha..i like this blog..we can share n learn lot of things here…hehe..

firstly brother ho, i didn’t say gng strata title can reno their exterior just that i don’t understand why it should be restricted or no go…i am interested in orange villa too thats why i came across this page and saw some of the potential future jmc members strictly not allowed that because it might devalue some of the houses or the whole taman. my stand point is that if a gng taman is maintaining their facilities well and location is good many investors would value it no matter how and talk about investors/potential buyers will shy away or and prefer those with renovation is just depends whether they like the way it is being renovated. talk about discipline and beauty as a whole yes i agree with that…

thanks ah tu for the explaination, come to think of that it seems like strata title is better now although exterior is not allowed to change? individual title taman cannot have gated right? i hope this is right.

KL and PJ have lot of individual title become GnG. But i ahve not see any in Penang, may be someone can enlighten me if they are any in penang. I like this blog a lot d … we can see excitement, angryness, dissappointment in this blog. Today call TahWah, the advertising licence expected to obtain this weeks….. ;(

winniewow – can see i am being so called ‘beaten up’?

Sorry Jo, let me corrected u.
Well Maintain + Look Organize + Location Good == High Appreciation
Bad Maintain + Look Macam2 + Bad Location == Slow Appreciation

You got free, pls go a visit
Bw’s Palm Villas == Look Organize but could be better
Juru’s Bayu Mutiara == Look macam-macam, total neibor dont care neibor feeling.

Above Brother Ho, Athu, have repeatedly tell you, if you still dont understand, then go and take a visit. Go and see house in Island e.g. Southbay Residences, One Residents all are GnG and cost for above Million dollor. Hope Ov can be as good as them.
If you understand, come join us.

Our OVilla so call ‘beaten up’ u, mainly due to you let people feel your sturborn, typical local low mentallity person. You call people in penang, can drive Big Car, by can behave very rude and selfish. Look at penang semi-D at Yap Chor Ee road, semi-D reno until like monster house. I am sure the jirandid it without consult his jiran. Pls go take a look. You will know. If want to reno, pls buy individual title.

thanks winniewow, i have been to southbay residence but not sure whether it is strata title until now..so gng can only be strata title..yes they cost for a million and above but ov is not that cheap either thats why i am looking around for better house and taman…for newbie like me it looks scary when at first saw all these comments even pets is taken into consideration..small/big dog due to open concept…

@jo
one of my friend stay at south bay, let me check the title…

Yes, Jo ….. JMC have mandate from AGM given by all parcel owner. Their is very strong. Just like your cabiner minister. AGM is like out parliment meeting (minimum one in 15 months).

Orange Villa. Location is nice house along Jalan Song Ban Kheng is highly appreciate. But it is 3 storey, too high become like town house. No choice because the land is small and expensive

@Grace
Don’t jump to the conclusion, Grace. I’m just considering
I can’t get a better picture of the kind of roof I’m talking about but I don’t think the convertible rooftop is what you imagine.

It’s something like this.
http://www.yelp.com/user_local_photos?userid=dsu43n2DOR_pB07P1sOOZg&select=1n3KjD6vUGp0_y5qtgQQFA

so technically, it’s like installing Solar panel on the roof / Astro’s satellite dish at the best spot to received the signal (Can’t say you are not allowed to install Astro within the limited area if you can’t get the signal right?), not hack and rebuild.

Also, I will only “expand” the roof ONLY when it’s necessary (like having party, or have additional guest car in porch), you won’t be seeing any difference most of the time as we only have 2 cars max. (I’m not trying to start a fight here. Peace)

Don’t get me wrong, I wish to have strict control to the outlook of every unit as well, just like Ah Tu, Winnie and you do. That is why i’ve given up buying BM Utama and willing to pay more for the outlook unification I’ve been dreaming.

talking about strict JMC control, we need to strictly control for the pet as well.
frankly, I m not a pet lover, my bottom line is, to pet in my premise.

*correction* No pet in my premise

about the roof top, it’s more like a convertible canopy

Halo Ken, kam xia for the explanation. just wanted to add 1 point on your comment on developer is smart now like putting hill, river n etc. as a “physical perimeter” like what setia pearl island and BM utama used to do it for indiviual title scheme. My views is no matter how smarts is the developer, if the adjavent/beside of the taman is an empty land that owned by other ppls or developers, then the new developers have a right to connect the road to that taman’s existing road…hehe..eventually the fake “pyhsical perimeter” that they put on will be useless too lor… unless developer are smarts enough to ensure all the existing roads in the taman cannot be connected liao…that’s different story la…

Another points to consider too is nowadays we can c lot of developers like to place lot of decorative stuffs like beautiful kolam, retention ponds, big landscaping and etc to make the taman looks beautiful n greenery to attract the buyer, for non-GnG, those things will be pass to local authorities – MPSP/MPPP to maintain when OC is obtained….those beautiful decorative stuffs might become sua pa n house of nyamuk aedes later on if MPSP/MPPP not come on time to clean n cut grass….hehe…may b resident there can setup a rukun tetangga n collect $$$ from the resident, but i think not that easy lor when talking on collecting $$$ to maintain the looks of the taman for non-GnG one…hehe..not all resident willing to give the $$$ eh la….haha..

@hybr1d3d

Halo hybr1d3d, for your question –> “Also, I will only “expand” the roof ONLY when it’s necessary (like having party, or have additional guest car in porch), ” .. not sure what u mean on “expand’ the roof here…do u mean ROAD here? hehe

Sorry, just did some research, should be called electric awning instead of convertible rooftop/canopy. as for the color of the fabric shades, I will match with the grey roof.

glad to see OV buyer start to talk about the do’s and don’ts at the very beginning.
called Katherine 2 days ago, she told the show unit should be seeable by the end of March.
I am actually start to plan for interior renovation… hehehehe….
by the way, is it safe not to pull any grill ??????

@chin

i plan not to put any grill too cause i think placing grill will make the house like ka ku keng(lokap) lor..haha..if later on really kena curi or rompak, that’s meaning our Orange Vila eh guard useless lor n not enough CCTV in place oso lor…let c how it goes first without grill… if staying in GnG n nid to put grills cause of takut kena rompak or curi, then sian liao lor… put grill will make ur house either exterior or interior look not nice surely…hehe

@AhTu

we could use the passive infrared detector in car porch and backdoor.
i am modifying the passive infrared to make it work in better manner….:)

@chin

thanks for the suggestion, that 1 sounds like wireless alarm to me ..

@AhTu
My mistake, it should be called, electrical / motorized retractable awning.

the SHADE will only be expanded when it is necessary, forget about the roof i was mentioning about

something like this

http://www.rainbowsunshade.com/catalog/popup_image.php/pID/158

@hybr1d3d

wow! looks changgih..for awning on roof top, i did asked developer long time ago on whether we can place the awning there, if i not mistaken, the answer from developer seems like negative , provided n unless all residents placing the same types n styles n color of awning at roof top lor.. so i think u better check out with developer on this matter lor if u want to put ur own styles n types of awning …i agree we should have an awning at roof top lor if not will sure si pek hot lor during afternoon time…I’m ok if need to follow developer eh guideline on awning cause same types/styles/color of awning will looks like 1 community ma….. like 1 Malaysia concept la… haha..

developer said i have to get jmc approval… so, im asking

@hybr1d3d

we not have official JMC yet…so u nid to wait till the house is completed with OC obtained first, follow by the setup of JMC that will be joint venture with developer, then sampai that time balu eh know whether JMC is ok with your move or not liao..hehe ..so pls become one of the JMC la, so that u will have 1 vote there lor…haha..

I like the electrical / motorized retractable awning, look very changgih and ok …. but what is once our nebo install an old fassion and yours one is good? then another jiran build another bad looking awning? then ah tu have ah tu way, ah kau have ah kau was way … then how to control? I suggest all resident should support a suggestion of only one vendor and one design being appoint. Or total prohibited people to install awning.

Comment welcome …..

Winnie, well designated vendor and design is good for price negotiation too.

Only one type of awning will do …. important is, management (developer or JMC) need to convince and enforce same ness ….. what if you like A design, and other like B, C, D, E ….. then, do you like your Villa look like sam-pah? Better buy non GnG ….

@hybr1d3d

In fact, I hv also checked with the developer and the feedback given was we are allowed to fix the awning but hv to follow the specific color scheme / design spec. to ensure uniformity. I foresee there will be lots of us wanna get it fixed up coz surely would be damn hot without it!

thank orange maniac, it might be too soon to discuss about the awning yet but i suggest same grey color as the roof

@TL

So, did u opt for OV to get a unit? u confident that the value will be highly apprecite? how about judging from the attached linked article from Henry Butcher?

http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/4868/Henry-Butcher-‘Cautiously-optimistic’-Penang-residential-market-in-2012-

most people foresee that the property market sentiment will slow down due to the over supply then demand of property or possibly be a bubble burst situation. What is your view?

@WinnieWowWow
for that, residence who demanded cast the vote, follow majority opinion. and whoever wants to install later, must follow 1st batch color.

also, regarding the installation, COLOR AND DESIGN MUST BE FIXED, but i think jmc should leave the option for the residence to decide if they want to install or not, like Astro, if majority do not have the plan to install, we cannot say “Hey, you wanna watch astro? leave this Taman please” right?

vice versa, we should not enforce every resident to install.

since it’s retractable, there wont be noticeable difference when we are not “expanding” it.

@AhTu
Will definitely think about it, I m planning to propose eco-friendly Taman plan too,

Similar to what Japan did, we must encourage residence separating the rubbish by type.
and enforce recycling. fund collected from selling the recycle materials shall go to JMC fund.

@orange manic
property market for sure is slowing down. However, the price will not drop for newly launch project as the cost to get the piece of land and building material is increasing. My personal point of view is do not expect price will be lower for new project. IF there is, that project must be have some “REASON”. in addition, newly launch project price will not rise so fast at present market condition. It will definitely go up soon after economic on rail.

Subsale project will have higher chances to see price reduce as the value of these type of property is being GORENG KAO KAO to sky rocketed price…. e.g. SouthB*Y ….i just pay a visit to my friend’s house and i am seeing the tenant rate is slow… and lot of “FOR SALE” signage was seen……..was told by friend the latest price has gone up to 1.5M per unit…
there are bubble….. if you are good negotiator and you know how to play the card, price can be go down to 1M…. 1.5M was just a indicative price, it does not reflect to the actual.

// just my two cents comment… :p

@hybr1d3d

i support you…………..Let’s make OV like a kampung where resident know each other well and take care of each other…….

Not a question supoort or not support, but GnG talk about same-ness. Who cannot coorporate, better buy other place.

What about to get the developer to add the awning in their plan, possible? Probably we add few thousand only or get developer to absord it. Just a suggestion.

@Kitty
I’m not sure if it’ll cause any trouble to the OC.

Just follow the majority …. go for standard way set by management or JMC

Just went to the site, Orange vila show house looks like 50% completed to me, u can c the workers are put up the brick walls now…good progress…haha

@AhTu
Ah Tu, snap some photo if you happen to visit the site again.

just drop by the site this evening…
i have snapped some photo you guys can go to the link below to view the progress as of today .
https://picasaweb.google.com/104806593660809958137/OrangeVillaSitePhoto#

The entry into the site is beside a temple…sometimes bad traffic congestion during temple celebration!!

Noticed that the contractor is using sand bricks( grey colour) instead of clay bricks( red colour) to lay the walls.

sue :
The entry into the site is beside a temple…sometimes bad traffic congestion during temple celebration!!

They do set up stage at the empty land opposite to the temple to perform Chinese opera and sell foods there during hungry ghost festival.

@engineer
macam ni… good laa.. at least life wont be that bored……

in the morning, this part of the road is also congested with cars turning the school…difficult to come out from the GnG.

in the morning, this part of the road is also congested with cars turning into the school…difficult to come out from the GnG.

Taken some photos on show house’s progress to share with all the buyer that bo eng go to site to monitor the progress of it lor..hehe – http://www.flickr.com/photos/76965857@N02/sets/72157629382777655/

chin :@engineer macam ni… good laa.. at least life wont be that bored……

agreed lor..wu pai wu po pi la…haha…

Thanks AhTu for the photos, looking at the zoomed-in photo of the front entrance door of the corner unit, seems this particular unit has changed to the door position, ie. moved off by a few feet toward glass curtain door. Compare to the floor plan on the brochure or the unit next to it, you can see the different clearly.

has anyone notice the difference as what the engineer pointed out?

@chin

thanks for your sharing of view point.

engineer :Noticed that the contractor is using sand bricks( grey colour) instead of clay bricks( red colour) to lay the walls.

>> Egnineer, what is the differences between the two and how does it affect the quality?

orange manic :
@chin

>> Egnineer, what is the differences between the two and how does it affect the quality?

Generally clay brick is better heat, damp and sound insulator compared to clay brick.

Some developers use clay brick for external walls due to exposure to weather, while using sand brick only for internal wall.

typo, i meant compared to sand brick..

I was wondering why from the photo we can see the staircase, by looking through the front door of the corner unit.

The staircase is supposed to be hidden behind a wall (there is a wall on floor plan between living room and staircase).