GangnamStyle :Hi all, we are real buyer and urge all other buyer, pls not to buy OrgVilla1/2. We regret to buy here. We urge here is actually want to give a lesson to developer. Due to their name is bad now, result in OrgVilla2 have to lauch lower end house, cheaper house. Continue to urge they will close down very soon. I am preparing to burn my 10% down payment here. We are not sabotage buy basically very angry real purchaser.

Yes, fully agreed.
Pls stop buying OrangeVilla.
Stop buy from this developer from supporting sociaty blood sucker.
Until now, no one buyer stand up praise on this developer.

kpc :

RY7 :Anyone can tell me which developer can deliver 100% good quality house?

In a real world, no developer can deliver 100% good quality house. But the different between branded developer and noname developer is branded developer will focus on quality and safety issues before they sell the house to buyer while noname developer will pay less focus on this parts when they starting sell their house to public. Branded developer will take seriously whenever there’s customer’s compliants but no name developer may just push the responsibility to other party when having complaints from their customer.

Totally not agreed with you.
How do u define branded and no branded developer?
All developer start from no name developer, during the 90’s MahSing is totally not a major player in the industry and yet where they are now, tdy. They used to built low-medium cost.
Most established developer’s nowadays provide you with a trendy and modern concept in exchange of a more quality products. I experienced once that an established developer is by no means the same with a no brand developer. Its just that we as a small buyer unable to shake them off due to their bigger and grandier presence and connection.
For eg. i have an unit in Summer Place and it is built later than the Spring but what do i get from the developer is totally not grandier than The Spring.
Jus to name a few which is totally not acceptable by me & our neighbour but what to do:-
The entrance to Summer Place is not Grandier than The Spring and when it rains you will get wet even from inside your car. After a few complained, these established developer just put on the auto shade at the entrance instead of giving a concrete entrance.
Also, the tag is an issue to be concern untill now and we do feel cheated by this established developer.
Sigh** this must be a joke when u sd branded developer will definitely provide a better quality and safety products.

Penangite :

kpc :

RY7 :Anyone can tell me which developer can deliver 100% good quality house?

In a real world, no developer can deliver 100% good quality house. But the different between branded developer and noname developer is branded developer will focus on quality and safety issues before they sell the house to buyer while noname developer will pay less focus on this parts when they starting sell their house to public. Branded developer will take seriously whenever there’s customer’s compliants but no name developer may just push the responsibility to other party when having complaints from their customer.

Totally not agreed with you.
How do u define branded and no branded developer?
All developer start from no name developer, during the 90′s MahSing is totally not a major player in the industry and yet where they are now, tdy. They used to built low-medium cost.
Most established developer’s nowadays provide you with a trendy and modern concept in exchange of a more quality products. I experienced once that an established developer is by no means the same with a no brand developer. Its just that we as a small buyer unable to shake them off due to their bigger and grandier presence and connection.
For eg. i have an unit in Summer Place and it is built later than the Spring but what do i get from the developer is totally not grandier than The Spring.
Jus to name a few which is totally not acceptable by me & our neighbour but what to do:-
The entrance to Summer Place is not Grandier than The Spring and when it rains you will get wet even from inside your car. After a few complained, these established developer just put on the auto shade at the entrance instead of giving a concrete entrance.
Also, the tag is an issue to be concern untill now and we do feel cheated by this established developer.
Sigh** this must be a joke when u sd branded developer will definitely provide a better quality and safety products.

Also, not to forget when we question the so called ‘branded developer’ about the entrance issue. The excuses given is that;-
This is the design by our Architect and we are unable to change anything.
Simple isnt it’..

Penangite :

kpc :

RY7 :Anyone can tell me which developer can deliver 100% good quality house?

In a real world, no developer can deliver 100% good quality house. But the different between branded developer and noname developer is branded developer will focus on quality and safety issues before they sell the house to buyer while noname developer will pay less focus on this parts when they starting sell their house to public. Branded developer will take seriously whenever there’s customer’s compliants but no name developer may just push the responsibility to other party when having complaints from their customer.

Totally not agreed with you.
How do u define branded and no branded developer?
All developer start from no name developer, during the 90′s MahSing is totally not a major player in the industry and yet where they are now, tdy. They used to built low-medium cost.
Most established developer’s nowadays provide you with a trendy and modern concept in exchange of a more quality products. I experienced once that an established developer is by no means the same with a no brand developer. Its just that we as a small buyer unable to shake them off due to their bigger and grandier presence and connection.
For eg. i have an unit in Summer Place and it is built later than the Spring but what do i get from the developer is totally not grandier than The Spring.
Jus to name a few which is totally not acceptable by me & our neighbour but what to do:-
The entrance to Summer Place is not Grandier than The Spring and when it rains you will get wet even from inside your car. After a few complained, these established developer just put on the auto shade at the entrance instead of giving a concrete entrance.
Also, the tag is an issue to be concern untill now and we do feel cheated by this established developer.
Sigh** this must be a joke when u sd branded developer will definitely provide a better quality and safety products.

Total agree with you…
If branded developer develop OV landed. The house price must be crazy like Villa Lagenda. haha…

@Penangite

Okay. That mean all developer same, they’re giving bad treats to customer after sales, pushing all the responsibility to their designer, architect, indo workers and etc.

We should blacklisted all the bad developers here to alert others !

RY7 :

Penangite :

kpc :

RY7 :Anyone can tell me which developer can deliver 100% good quality house?

In a real world, no developer can deliver 100% good quality house. But the different between branded developer and noname developer is branded developer will focus on quality and safety issues before they sell the house to buyer while noname developer will pay less focus on this parts when they starting sell their house to public. Branded developer will take seriously whenever there’s customer’s compliants but no name developer may just push the responsibility to other party when having complaints from their customer.

Totally not agreed with you.
How do u define branded and no branded developer?
All developer start from no name developer, during the 90′s MahSing is totally not a major player in the industry and yet where they are now, tdy. They used to built low-medium cost.
Most established developer’s nowadays provide you with a trendy and modern concept in exchange of a more quality products. I experienced once that an established developer is by no means the same with a no brand developer. Its just that we as a small buyer unable to shake them off due to their bigger and grandier presence and connection.
For eg. i have an unit in Summer Place and it is built later than the Spring but what do i get from the developer is totally not grandier than The Spring.
Jus to name a few which is totally not acceptable by me & our neighbour but what to do:-
The entrance to Summer Place is not Grandier than The Spring and when it rains you will get wet even from inside your car. After a few complained, these established developer just put on the auto shade at the entrance instead of giving a concrete entrance.
Also, the tag is an issue to be concern untill now and we do feel cheated by this established developer.
Sigh** this must be a joke when u sd branded developer will definitely provide a better quality and safety products.

Total agree with you…
If branded developer develop OV landed. The house price must be crazy like Villa Lagenda. haha…

Aiya, nowadays no such thing as quality from established developer dy la. In order for them to survive in this challenging environment. What do they really care is Profit, profit, profit.
You pay peanut and you get monkey..

It unfair to judge when the unit is not even completed.
Funny thing really happen when alot of comments link to Dato’ personally.
Come on guys, the developer apparently have 3 yrs to complete and then to deliver the units to us.
Let us be patience and while in the meantime just dont listen to those sabotajer’ who use all sorts of way to sabotaj.
I pity the developer..

Penangite :It unfair to judge when the unit is not even completed.Funny thing really happen when alot of comments link to Dato’ personally.Come on guys, the developer apparently have 3 yrs to complete and then to deliver the units to us.Let us be patience and while in the meantime just dont listen to those sabotajer’ who use all sorts of way to sabotaj.I pity the developer..

I think this developer really treat their customer badly after sales ! if not why most of the ppls said bad things on this developer?

From my observation, lot of ppl who gave bad comments to this project are real buyers not the sabotager ! 😉

I’m not pity this developer if they really pushing all their buyer’s compliants to other party ! I’m more pity to the real buyers who felt get cheated by this developer ! OV is not cheap, it is hard earn $$$ to own the terrace house..

@Penangite
Yes, we are real buyer. Pls don’t buy OV1/2 include their future condo at Bw area.

4 india neigbour ? which unit they own? anyone know?

http://ehome.kpkt.gov.my/ehome_apps/LaporanJualRumah.cfm?PROJ_PMJU_KOD=11916&PROJ_KOD_FASA=1&Nama_Pemaju=TAH WAH LAND SDN BHD&Negeri=07&PMJU_KOD=11916&PROJ_NAMA=VILA OREN

Penangite :
It unfair to judge when the unit is not even completed.
Funny thing really happen when alot of comments link to Dato’ personally.
Come on guys, the developer apparently have 3 yrs to complete and then to deliver the units to us.
Let us be patience and while in the meantime just dont listen to those sabotajer’ who use all sorts of way to sabotaj.
I pity the developer..

As buyers, if we did not have experienced all those sucks attitude and reply from the developer, we would not ‘sabotage’ here (since you wanted to name us the buyers as sabotagers). even the brick wall also used broken bricks and not done to standard, what can we expect to get our hard earn half million house then???

merdeka :

Penangite :
It unfair to judge when the unit is not even completed.
Funny thing really happen when alot of comments link to Dato’ personally.
Come on guys, the developer apparently have 3 yrs to complete and then to deliver the units to us.
Let us be patience and while in the meantime just dont listen to those sabotajer’ who use all sorts of way to sabotaj.
I pity the developer..
As buyers, if we did not have experienced all those sucks attitude and reply from the developer, we would not ‘sabotage’ here (since you wanted to name us the buyers as sabotagers). even the brick wall also used broken bricks and not done to standard, what can we expect to get our hard earn half million house then???

Hi Sabotager’
Indeed, you are one of the Sabotager. If you are a real owner you wont be calling people around not to buy the project.
What if people are not buying and then after the whole project cannot move-on and eventually this project will be called off. I mean like abandoned by developer due to loss making.
Do you worry bout that, nop coz coz you are one of the ‘sabotager’.
Im just prayin for the project to be completed coz i already signed S&P.
Also, it will eventually affect your property prices in the future if this pro-long.
Think twice before you start typing coz talk is cheap.

You

merdeka :

Penangite :
It unfair to judge when the unit is not even completed.
Funny thing really happen when alot of comments link to Dato’ personally.
Come on guys, the developer apparently have 3 yrs to complete and then to deliver the units to us.
Let us be patience and while in the meantime just dont listen to those sabotajer’ who use all sorts of way to sabotaj.
I pity the developer..
As buyers, if we did not have experienced all those sucks attitude and reply from the developer, we would not ‘sabotage’ here (since you wanted to name us the buyers as sabotagers). even the brick wall also used broken bricks and not done to standard, what can we expect to get our hard earn half million house then???

Mr.Merdeka,
Since you are asking for independent, why not i ask a quick few round of question;-
1) Is it proven that the broken bricks will eventually collapse in 5 yrs or in near future.
This is your own assumption that broken bricks is low in quality. Sometimes assumotion kills.
I would like to know more about final ending report from your analysis.

2) Why broken bricks is layoff, they Bangla worker will only provide a broken bricks when the wall is towards the end.
Your claimed here as if every sand-bricks that the developer is using is broken bricks.

Its so obvious that your intention over here is to called off one and every keen buyer not to buy anything from this developer in the CURRENT & FUTURE.

Penangite :

merdeka :

Penangite :It unfair to judge when the unit is not even completed.Funny thing really happen when alot of comments link to Dato’ personally.Come on guys, the developer apparently have 3 yrs to complete and then to deliver the units to us.Let us be patience and while in the meantime just dont listen to those sabotajer’ who use all sorts of way to sabotaj.I pity the developer..As buyers, if we did not have experienced all those sucks attitude and reply from the developer, we would not ‘sabotage’ here (since you wanted to name us the buyers as sabotagers). even the brick wall also used broken bricks and not done to standard, what can we expect to get our hard earn half million house then???

Hi Sabotager’Indeed, you are one of the Sabotager. If you are a real owner you wont be calling people around not to buy the project.What if people are not buying and then after the whole project cannot move-on and eventually this project will be called off. I mean like abandoned by developer due to loss making.Do you worry bout that, nop coz coz you are one of the ‘sabotager’.Im just prayin for the project to be completed coz i already signed S&P.Also, it will eventually affect your property prices in the future if this pro-long.Think twice before you start typing coz talk is cheap.

I am not Mr Merdeka, I am not sabotager, I am just very very pis off and dissapointed with developer did not listen to the hand rail issue (shaky and lousy) and broken brick usage. Here, as a buyer, i fully support comment from Mr Merdeka.
Penangite, u should not express good here as we think u are developer proxy come here kacau kacau.

@Penangite

After signed the S&P not meaning we should silent when we received bad treats from developer when we filed complaints to them regarding bad quality and materials in this project!

Sabotager or real buyers, our goal is same –> We need the quality house from developer !

We feel cheated when developer pushing all the responsibility to 3rd party when we filed compliants to them !

@David C

I agree with u !

David C :

Penangite :

merdeka :

Penangite :It unfair to judge when the unit is not even completed.Funny thing really happen when alot of comments link to Dato’ personally.Come on guys, the developer apparently have 3 yrs to complete and then to deliver the units to us.Let us be patience and while in the meantime just dont listen to those sabotajer’ who use all sorts of way to sabotaj.I pity the developer..As buyers, if we did not have experienced all those sucks attitude and reply from the developer, we would not ‘sabotage’ here (since you wanted to name us the buyers as sabotagers). even the brick wall also used broken bricks and not done to standard, what can we expect to get our hard earn half million house then???

Hi Sabotager’Indeed, you are one of the Sabotager. If you are a real owner you wont be calling people around not to buy the project.What if people are not buying and then after the whole project cannot move-on and eventually this project will be called off. I mean like abandoned by developer due to loss making.Do you worry bout that, nop coz coz you are one of the ‘sabotager’.Im just prayin for the project to be completed coz i already signed S&P.Also, it will eventually affect your property prices in the future if this pro-long.Think twice before you start typing coz talk is cheap.

I am not Mr Merdeka, I am not sabotager, I am just very very pis off and dissapointed with developer did not listen to the hand rail issue (shaky and lousy) and broken brick usage. Here, as a buyer, i fully support comment from Mr Merdeka.
Penangite, u should not express good here as we think u are developer proxy come here kacau kacau.

What i am tryin to convey here is to the extend that why should you called off every buyer when there is only a mere quality issue.
The interest is so great that we can see its so obvious that merdeka, Gangnam Style, jesslyn teh and many more is sabotage this project.
Alrite, letz get back to the quality issue instead of asking people here and there not to buy.
I personally called up a few time to enquire bout it and the PIC keep telling me that they will look into the matter and i will continue to keep calling to show that its an urgent need to rectify the matter asap.

Penangite :You

merdeka :

Penangite :It unfair to judge when the unit is not even completed.Funny thing really happen when alot of comments link to Dato’ personally.Come on guys, the developer apparently have 3 yrs to complete and then to deliver the units to us.Let us be patience and while in the meantime just dont listen to those sabotajer’ who use all sorts of way to sabotaj.I pity the developer..As buyers, if we did not have experienced all those sucks attitude and reply from the developer, we would not ‘sabotage’ here (since you wanted to name us the buyers as sabotagers). even the brick wall also used broken bricks and not done to standard, what can we expect to get our hard earn half million house then???

Mr.Merdeka,Since you are asking for independent, why not i ask a quick few round of question;-1) Is it proven that the broken bricks will eventually collapse in 5 yrs or in near future.This is your own assumption that broken bricks is low in quality. Sometimes assumotion kills.I would like to know more about final ending report from your analysis.
2) Why broken bricks is layoff, they Bangla worker will only provide a broken bricks when the wall is towards the end.Your claimed here as if every sand-bricks that the developer is using is broken bricks.
Its so obvious that your intention over here is to called off one and every keen buyer not to buy anything from this developer in the CURRENT & FUTURE.

As a buyer, was can choose to be more choosy and picky. All back to developer attitude. I think and i also experiences, we are all purchaser that were flustuated by developer in all kind of feedback and complaint. A meeting was ask to meet Mr Hong, but was rejected also. Addtional wwith more other bad experience, developer now got the heat already. Their next project now cannot sell high price not, OV2 lower class compare to OV1.
Pls read thru all forum above, u will know what is the bad think developer done. E.g. if u complain, then kink u out from OV1 without compensate. E.g. disclouse purchaser infor to other. E.g. complain purchaser as the back to another purchaser. E.g. reject to meet fellow purchaser club members whoch consisted of 30 buyers. These are very bad behavior, which have lead to so many purchaser not very pis off. You go and read all page, u will see it.
Talk good this in this block alone will not help, only id developer stat to chg their attitude, then we all will start to give good comment and recommend it to fren.

Buyer99 :@David C
I agree with u !

Yes!
You call can see, immediately, another buyer support me d. Look at the time sent between Buyer99 and me, we are not a same person. In fact, the anyry purchaser group are too big and people say ‘complain but not door’, ‘arm teh bo lang chai’ after buy OV1.
For those potential buyer for OV1/OV2/Their future condo at Bw or Bm, pls stop until developer start listen and treat well all feedback and complain.
Now the ball in at developer leg, not us, we do not intent to talk bad on developer.

@DavidCorrect
Do or die is upto developer them self. They still have change to chg their fate.

Pls give developer chance laaaa, buy at your own risk! So far non of my complain especially staircase vibrate problem was not entertain well. So, pls avoid consider their coming project ovilla2.

Just give a feel word here, advise you all quickly form and register Purchaser Association from ROS, then start apply press to dveloper to make it more effective. Individual complain could be easily ignore by them. I foresee, you may have difficulty next time why developer start to deliver house to you all, all the grey area and defect will potential become arguement between developer and buyer. The Purchaser Association have to come in earlier to hold developer responsible for all kind of defect. Question is, should the defect repairing cost bear by deveoper or buyer. How you all can ensure, thise defect repairing (withon the vouluntee period) cost do not use our monthly maintenance fee and sinking fund. It shoud be under the cost of developer. You all better start form the association to safe guard your money. Just my 2 cents

@Penangite

I am not talk cheap here. If the quality issue is not solve here, what is the point you get the house?? I can foresee we have to fork out more money to rectify the defect. I know you would argue back we have 2 years warranty period. But do you know that the developer would only use silicone to seal the cracks?? After some time the cracks reappear again??

Well, if you think that using broken bricks not an issue at all, I challenge you to request your unit to be built by using leftover broben bricks to built. You, instead, Do not TALK CHEAP here if yourself also do not want this treatment!! OK??

merdeka :
@Penangite
I am not talk cheap here. If the quality issue is not solve here, what is the point you get the house?? I can foresee we have to fork out more money to rectify the defect. I know you would argue back we have 2 years warranty period. But do you know that the developer would only use silicone to seal the cracks?? After some time the cracks reappear again??
Well, if you think that using broken bricks not an issue at all, I challenge you to request your unit to be built by using leftover broben bricks to built. You, instead, Do not TALK CHEAP here if yourself also do not want this treatment!! OK??

Funny, if your unit is built on using broken bricks then will there any mistakes that my unit is using clay bricks.
I did not wanna argue with u on anything. Im just trying to express what i had on my mind.
Come on, grow up please.

@David C

Thank you for supporting me, David C.

Penangite :

merdeka :@Penangite I am not talk cheap here. If the quality issue is not solve here, what is the point you get the house?? I can foresee we have to fork out more money to rectify the defect. I know you would argue back we have 2 years warranty period. But do you know that the developer would only use silicone to seal the cracks?? After some time the cracks reappear again??Well, if you think that using broken bricks not an issue at all, I challenge you to request your unit to be built by using leftover broben bricks to built. You, instead, Do not TALK CHEAP here if yourself also do not want this treatment!! OK??

Funny, if your unit is built on using broken bricks then will there any mistakes that my unit is using clay bricks.I did not wanna argue with u on anything. Im just trying to express what i had on my mind.Come on, grow up please.

penangite should follow majority. enough u message, but majority is angry and pis off with Tw. I dont want my unit with silicon sealer, just a soft material and sooner will crack again. Pls jojn us to push developer. Majority is not happy.

@merdeka

merdeka :
@David C
Thank you for supporting me, David C.

You yourself must grow up instead. I am not trying to argue, I am telling the truth. Should the developer handled the complaints more wisely and not push to 3rd party, then my comments would not appear here. We are human, we understand what is going on. I am not like someone, buying low quality (lower than standard) house with the premium price still can blame the one who voice out the complaints.

merdeka :@merdeka

merdeka :@David C Thank you for supporting me, David C.

You yourself must grow up instead. I am not trying to argue, I am telling the truth. Should the developer handled the complaints more wisely and not push to 3rd party, then my comments would not appear here. We are human, we understand what is going on. I am not like someone, buying low quality (lower than standard) house with the premium price still can blame the one who voice out the complaints.

Exactly !!! I agree. Consumer need to protect their rights to have developer to deliver quality house, both in materials and workmanship!

Buyer99 :@Penangite
After signed the S&P not meaning we should silent when we received bad treats from developer when we filed complaints to them regarding bad quality and materials in this project!
Sabotager or real buyers, our goal is same –> We need the quality house from developer !
We feel cheated when developer pushing all the responsibility to 3rd party when we filed compliants to them !

Well said !

proclaimed himself is one of the buyers, who believe??? got any buyer out there happy to get substandard house? if yes, he must be a dumb.

merdeka :
proclaimed himself is one of the buyers, who believe??? got any buyer out there happy to get substandard house? if yes, he must be a dumb.

Everybody say give pressure to developer, but till now they are unable to proof it, the broken bricks photo in any website, but keep going to ask the real buyer who already place booking to joint OVPC, please, if we managed to show the photo, sure affected their sales, but y no body can show the photo, please, photo, photo and we all will stop argue

BJ :

merdeka :
proclaimed himself is one of the buyers, who believe??? got any buyer out there happy to get substandard house? if yes, he must be a dumb.

Everybody say give pressure to developer, but till now they are unable to proof it, the broken bricks photo in any website, but keep going to ask the real buyer who already place booking to joint OVPC, please, if we managed to show the photo, sure affected their sales, but y no body can show the photo, please, photo, photo and we all will stop argue

Why must show you the photo? Who are you? Only real buyers only can see the photos. If you feel that we are the sabotagers and the comments are untrue, then you just proceed to buy the house. This is your money, not mine. Even if you not buying I also get nothing.

merdeka :

BJ :

merdeka :
proclaimed himself is one of the buyers, who believe??? got any buyer out there happy to get substandard house? if yes, he must be a dumb.

Everybody say give pressure to developer, but till now they are unable to proof it, the broken bricks photo in any website, but keep going to ask the real buyer who already place booking to joint OVPC, please, if we managed to show the photo, sure affected their sales, but y no body can show the photo, please, photo, photo and we all will stop argue

Why must show you the photo? Who are you? Only real buyers only can see the photos. If you feel that we are the sabotagers and the comments are untrue, then you just proceed to buy the house. This is your money, not mine. Even if you not buying I also get nothing.

I agreed with you (merdeka). Only real buyer can view the photo and if you can’t, may be you are not a real buyer yet. The real buyers have told you that this is no care quality and save developer. So back to potential buyers, before you become the real buyer you can questions the developer and see how their feedback? If you can accept their feedback, than you can go ahead to sign your S&P. After you become the real buyer, than you can join OVPC than you can view the photo’s. Hope you will not regret after view.

I am also a potential buyer and chat with one of the real buyer want to join the OVPC (purpose to view photo’s) but he told me is only for OVPC. After chat with him for few times, I have decide not to buy OV1/2.

i agree. the photos on bad quality are in OVPC facebook. that facebook is for genuine buyers to join and not open for potential buyers or for public views/discussion ! u can proceed your orders with twh if you’re not believe on what we said here, the money is yours.

twh did received the complaints letter on the bad brickworks/broken bricks together with the defect photos from buyer, u can ask them to show u the photos if you’re doubt on what we said here, you can ask them to show you their replied to the buyer too. See they dare to share the photos/replied with u or not.

Or you can go to OV site to check by your own, the best place to spot are at beside the keow kwang primary school and also the pejabat tanah/mpsp. Remember to bring telescope so that you can see clearly the “quality” of workmanship and the “quality” of bricks used.

it is not easy to earn $$ to buy a terrace house with price more than half millions, however the choice is yours !!!

i’m having same mindset with other buyers who raised the quality concern here !

EVERY BUYER WANT THE QUALITY HOUSE FROM DEVELOPER !! me too.

customer compliants is important to make twh advance with dignity. if twh not take seriously on every complaints from customer and treat them wisely, then the loser will be twh i foresee. Customers will relay those bad comments to their friends, sibling, potential customers, those bad comments will keep going and going ….spreading..

TREATING CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS WISELY AND WITH RESPONSIBILITY WILL DETERMINE THE SUCCESS OF THE BUSINESS, ANY BUSINESS…

@jojo

good say. I-chiban. :3 =p

Is impossible for TWH to show us the complaint letter or photo from purchaser club, if i m twh, i will say so far they haven received any letter from the buyer, if we ask about quality, haiya, the person who selling durian for sure they will say my durian is good quality one, right, if we want to stop potential buyer to buy, the best way is show them the photo i think

Ok, now i already place booking, sign S & P, can i know hows the way to joint OVPC?

@Chew
You got to wait for next purchaser club meeting and should up ur self, let every one know each other. then only we accept you. Chew, you are still new, you got to wait.
Keep ur self update if we have meeting.

Tell us if Penang Properties can post quality problem picture or not? If can, we will try to forward some (easily we have items).
May be Admin Ken can advice us. Do you really want us to post these picture? This is sure affected developer one.

@YoungCouple
Yes, please post.

Wait for Admin response first

Hi, OVPC members, please upload the photos. I am potential buyer of OV2 and very much looking forward to view the photos for decision making.

Many OVPC members trying to ask potential buyer stop considering OV1/OV2. but to view the photos, need to buy a unit and join OVPC. This means, you actually encourage people to buy OV to believe TW is bad quality developer….

Chew :Ok, now i already place booking, sign S & P, can i know hows the way to joint OVPC?

orange manic :The only way to discard those sabotage personnel is to keep silence from the blog..Real buyers, if u really have concerns or sound suggestions, pls come join the OV purchaser club, u will deal with a group of real buyers n lget to listen to more contructive comments. We are progessively addressing issues concerned thru concerted efforts together with all real buyers for the benefit of our quality house!
One condition to join the club is to prepare to reveal your real status as buyers with your unit number, coz we want to ensure that NO sabotage personnel come to the club…
We are going to have a 2nd meeting very soon. If u like to meet with a group of sincere real buyers like myself, Winnewow, orange juice, AhTu..and many more , Pls email to me at jleong328@gmail.com, indicate your real name n unit number, I will then link u to the OV purchaser club’s FB.

@Chew,

Found this old post after reading from page 1 to page 14, it really make me blur when read so many comments, some good some bad….but i’m not sure this is the correct way to join OVPC. You may try..

Yes, this email is real, but you still need to wait for the club invitation meeting to show out your self before can join the FaceBook to view the picture. This is to avoid sabotage come in and disturb real purchaser. You need to let existing club member confortable with you first.
YoungCouple,
Pls double consider to post the real picture because this will surely kill developer business and good name, we believe you will paste those poor design & quality photo. But we have to really consider if developer close shop, we will also got pull into the hot soup. Are we too hush to developer? What if, here we give warning to developer to immediate rectify all poor design and quality that hilite in the OV purchacer club letter and in this forum. Let say we give 2 week time for developer to plan, inform purchaser club members and response in this forum, then after rectify, inform purchaser to visit their show house again.
1) Shaky Hand Rail (Too much vibrate and will loose one day, less then 1 years)
2) Broken Brick was use for outer wall and inner wall
3) Backyard garden partition use loose brick, easy to remove.
If after 2 weeks from today, Aug30, still not reaction from developer, i would say, you can go ahead and post all those lousy design picture and the shaky hand rail picture on to this site. (Admin Ken have give us green like to start post real design and quality issue photo onto this forum). Again, this is another procedent that buyer start to use Penang Properties Blog to post quality photo to show to all reader, potential buyer and let them have a better picture and judgement before buy any properties. What do you think, all other real purchaser?
To me, i have paid my first 10%, i am ready to burn this money if developer close shop. I will not stay quiet and let developer take advantage to all our hard earn money.

Just 10%? How about the bank loan? You don’t mind to burn it?

JPM :

Chew :Ok, now i already place booking, sign S & P, can i know hows the way to joint OVPC?

orange manic :The only way to discard those sabotage personnel is to keep silence from the blog..Real buyers, if u really have concerns or sound suggestions, pls come join the OV purchaser club, u will deal with a group of real buyers n lget to listen to more contructive comments. We are progessively addressing issues concerned thru concerted efforts together with all real buyers for the benefit of our quality house!
One condition to join the club is to prepare to reveal your real status as buyers with your unit number, coz we want to ensure that NO sabotage personnel come to the club…
We are going to have a 2nd meeting very soon. If u like to meet with a group of sincere real buyers like myself, Winnewow, orange juice, AhTu..and many more , Pls email to me at jleong328@gmail.com, indicate your real name n unit number, I will then link u to the OV purchaser club’s FB.

@Chew,
Found this old post after reading from page 1 to page 14, it really make me blur when read so many comments, some good some bad….but i’m not sure this is the correct way to join OVPC. You may try..

Thanks bro, I will e mail and joint OVPC

AngryBuyer :Yes, this email is real, but you still need to wait for the club invitation meeting to show out your self before can join the FaceBook to view the picture. This is to avoid sabotage come in and disturb real purchaser. You need to let existing club member confortable with you first.YoungCouple,Pls double consider to post the real picture because this will surely kill developer business and good name, we believe you will paste those poor design & quality photo. But we have to really consider if developer close shop, we will also got pull into the hot soup. Are we too hush to developer? What if, here we give warning to developer to immediate rectify all poor design and quality that hilite in the OV purchacer club letter and in this forum. Let say we give 2 week time for developer to plan, inform purchaser club members and response in this forum, then after rectify, inform purchaser to visit their show house again.1) Shaky Hand Rail (Too much vibrate and will loose one day, less then 1 years)2) Broken Brick was use for outer wall and inner wall3) Backyard garden partition use loose brick, easy to remove.If after 2 weeks from today, Aug30, still not reaction from developer, i would say, you can go ahead and post all those lousy design picture and the shaky hand rail picture on to this site. (Admin Ken have give us green like to start post real design and quality issue photo onto this forum). Again, this is another procedent that buyer start to use Penang Properties Blog to post quality photo to show to all reader, potential buyer and let them have a better picture and judgement before buy any properties. What do you think, all other real purchaser?To me, i have paid my first 10%, i am ready to burn this money if developer close shop. I will not stay quiet and let developer take advantage to all our hard earn money.

The choice is yours ! 😉

Pls give them two weeks time to response. I think developer bad attitude have force purchaser club suggest this hard move. Hope developer could come it and comment? By the way, where is developer Proxy? hello, where is AhTu?

AngryBuyer :
Yes, this email is real, but you still need to wait for the club invitation meeting to show out your self before can join the FaceBook to view the picture. This is to avoid sabotage come in and disturb real purchaser. You need to let existing club member confortable with you first.
YoungCouple,
Pls double consider to post the real picture because this will surely kill developer business and good name, we believe you will paste those poor design & quality photo. But we have to really consider if developer close shop, we will also got pull into the hot soup. Are we too hush to developer? What if, here we give warning to developer to immediate rectify all poor design and quality that hilite in the OV purchacer club letter and in this forum. Let say we give 2 week time for developer to plan, inform purchaser club members and response in this forum, then after rectify, inform purchaser to visit their show house again.
1) Shaky Hand Rail (Too much vibrate and will loose one day, less then 1 years)
2) Broken Brick was use for outer wall and inner wall
3) Backyard garden partition use loose brick, easy to remove.
If after 2 weeks from today, Aug30, still not reaction from developer, i would say, you can go ahead and post all those lousy design picture and the shaky hand rail picture on to this site. (Admin Ken have give us green like to start post real design and quality issue photo onto this forum). Again, this is another procedent that buyer start to use Penang Properties Blog to post quality photo to show to all reader, potential buyer and let them have a better picture and judgement before buy any properties. What do you think, all other real purchaser?
To me, i have paid my first 10%, i am ready to burn this money if developer close shop. I will not stay quiet and let developer take advantage to all our hard earn money.

This is indeed a very smart and savvy move, i salute you. Hopin’ to hear that any shortcomings will be rectify asap.
Alrite, so this is so obvious that merdeka, buyer88, Jojo and many more is indeed a sabotager.

4 India buyer??SO now Indians are no longer humans?
As far i know the 4 indian families there are highly educated and highly ranked in social status
What is the problem with ppl in Penang?What happen to 1 malaysia?
wholly crap ,man

@Vagya
Can I know what it the ranking in Indian social status? Who is no. 1?

ranking is based by education and income .Lifestyle and also main thing is attitude and decency

Penangite :

AngryBuyer :Yes, this email is real, but you still need to wait for the club invitation meeting to show out your self before can join the FaceBook to view the picture. This is to avoid sabotage come in and disturb real purchaser. You need to let existing club member confortable with you first.YoungCouple,Pls double consider to post the real picture because this will surely kill developer business and good name, we believe you will paste those poor design & quality photo. But we have to really consider if developer close shop, we will also got pull into the hot soup. Are we too hush to developer? What if, here we give warning to developer to immediate rectify all poor design and quality that hilite in the OV purchacer club letter and in this forum. Let say we give 2 week time for developer to plan, inform purchaser club members and response in this forum, then after rectify, inform purchaser to visit their show house again.1) Shaky Hand Rail (Too much vibrate and will loose one day, less then 1 years)2) Broken Brick was use for outer wall and inner wall3) Backyard garden partition use loose brick, easy to remove.If after 2 weeks from today, Aug30, still not reaction from developer, i would say, you can go ahead and post all those lousy design picture and the shaky hand rail picture on to this site. (Admin Ken have give us green like to start post real design and quality issue photo onto this forum). Again, this is another procedent that buyer start to use Penang Properties Blog to post quality photo to show to all reader, potential buyer and let them have a better picture and judgement before buy any properties. What do you think, all other real purchaser?To me, i have paid my first 10%, i am ready to burn this money if developer close shop. I will not stay quiet and let developer take advantage to all our hard earn money.

This is indeed a very smart and savvy move, i salute you. Hopin’ to hear that any shortcomings will be rectify asap.Alrite, so this is so obvious that merdeka, buyer88, Jojo and many more is indeed a sabotager.

pls post the picture la, talk so much for what lo.

Vagya :4 India buyer??SO now Indians are no longer humans?As far i know the 4 indian families there are highly educated and highly ranked in social statusWhat is the problem with ppl in Penang?What happen to 1 malaysia?wholly crap ,man

Hope those four units are all your neighbbours !

jojo :i’m having same mindset with other buyers who raised the quality concern here !
EVERY BUYER WANT THE QUALITY HOUSE FROM DEVELOPER !! me too.
customer compliants is important to make twh advance with dignity. if twh not take seriously on every complaints from customer and treat them wisely, then the loser will be twh i foresee. Customers will relay those bad comments to their friends, sibling, potential customers, those bad comments will keep going and going ….spreading..
TREATING CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS WISELY AND WITH RESPONSIBILITY WILL DETERMINE THE SUCCESS OF THE BUSINESS, ANY BUSINESS…

100% agree !

Vagya :4 India buyer??SO now Indians are no longer humans?As far i know the 4 indian families there are highly educated and highly ranked in social statusWhat is the problem with ppl in Penang?What happen to 1 malaysia?wholly crap ,man

any ideas which 4 units are india buyer? i interested to know too.

I’m a silent buyer. Yes, I’m very disappointed with the quality but I think we need to also fair to the developer. Some of the things OVPC requested already completed ractified by the developer. Nobody has mentioned this and I’m very sad when I saw all bad things posted. I’m concern on safety but my investment value too. Only a few hero in the OVPC trying to make things worse.

@KClim

I’m silent buyer too. The question now is how to make fair to developer when they are not focuing on quality issues that brought up by other buyers at here? Developer need to fair with buyers like us too !! We are buying more than half millions house in BM but looks like developer thought they are selling vegetables to us !!

YapJJ :i agree. the photos on bad quality are in OVPC facebook. that facebook is for genuine buyers to join and not open for potential buyers or for public views/discussion ! u can proceed your orders with twh if you’re not believe on what we said here, the money is yours.
twh did received the complaints letter on the bad brickworks/broken bricks together with the defect photos from buyer, u can ask them to show u the photos if you’re doubt on what we said here, you can ask them to show you their replied to the buyer too. See they dare to share the photos/replied with u or not.
Or you can go to OV site to check by your own, the best place to spot are at beside the keow kwang primary school and also the pejabat tanah/mpsp. Remember to bring telescope so that you can see clearly the “quality” of workmanship and the “quality” of bricks used.
it is not easy to earn $$ to buy a terrace house with price more than half millions, however the choice is yours !!!

This idea is good. Asking the developer to show u the complaints letter from buyers before u buy is a good move, but i think developer will not dare to show you the complaint letter and pictures loh. They also scare this will impact their sales ma. 😉 hehe

Moly :
@KClim
I’m silent buyer too. The question now is how to make fair to developer when they are not focuing on quality issues that brought up by other buyers at here? Developer need to fair with buyers like us too !! We are buying more than half millions house in BM but looks like developer thought they are selling vegetables to us !!

you are able to buy half millions house in BM, you are of high status people but you are now using this forum as a communication medium with the developer, i wonder if you are real buyer or sabotager. you can write so well, i hope you have written to the developer your concern cos you never know if the developer reads this forum. you sabotage here because u use anonymous and if you write to the developer you have to use your real name, is it the reason why you use this forum to sabotage? please dont tell me you are not sabotaging or you have your hidden motive????

Palm Villa :
@LimPek
Inlfuencing developer prior to actual construction might be a good start. More importantly, the long term sustaining of your OV G&G will depend on few key items below:
1. JMB – Elect mixture of sensible and agressive people. If can get a lawyer in the team, it will be a bonus.
2. Organize regular event to promote good neighbourhood feeling. In Palm Villa, we had 3 functions last year, Cheh 9 (ninth day of CNY celebration), Hungry Ghost festival & Palm Villa sports day. All these are done from self sponsorship. This is to ensure neighbours get together and it helps in getting neighbours to rally/work together to the betterment of the G&G community.
3. Reduce non-payment of maintenance fees/sinking fund (there are always some bad apples in a box of apples). Always remember: Once your monthly expenditure is > than monthly collection, it will mean than your G&G is not healthy and facilities will deteriorate over time which quality will drop. Good owners will start lacking in their payment also because others are not paying and even after they paid, the facilities get worst. JMB to work closely with Management Office to timely enforce legal means to pursue the the overdue payment.
4. Volunteerism: any event organized by JMB, do participate. Last 2 years we had a gotong royong to clean the drain from blockage. We WORK with developer to get some of their workers to clean up drains that are blocked by construction residue. Now, there are less mosquitoes in our home. I highlighted here “WORK with developer”. This is very important. Logic and sensible demand will always be heard.

this is a good reminder for all OV buyers

KClim :I’m a silent buyer. Yes, I’m very disappointed with the quality but I think we need to also fair to the developer. Some of the things OVPC requested already completed ractified by the developer. Nobody has mentioned this and I’m very sad when I saw all bad things posted. I’m concern on safety but my investment value too. Only a few hero in the OVPC trying to make things worse.

We real owner will not do this. You still think only 1-2 buyer piss off? Sorry u are wrong here. Most club member are own staying. If you not stay but investment, then that your business. In all situation, safety come first. If some incident happen in you unit and due to your ignorance, that good luck to you. Your house price surely dip down. What if the death is you love one, all residence in Orange Villa will express pityful to you. Ignorance cause death.

Hurricane :

KClim :I’m a silent buyer. Yes, I’m very disappointed with the quality but I think we need to also fair to the developer. Some of the things OVPC requested already completed ractified by the developer. Nobody has mentioned this and I’m very sad when I saw all bad things posted. I’m concern on safety but my investment value too. Only a few hero in the OVPC trying to make things worse.

We real owner will not do this. You still think only 1-2 buyer piss off? Sorry u are wrong here. Most club member are own staying. If you not stay but investment, then that your business. In all situation, safety come first. If some incident happen in you unit and due to your ignorance, that good luck to you. Your house price surely dip down. What if the death is you love one, all residence in Orange Villa will express pityful to you. Ignorance cause death.

100% good say. God will not bless money minded. We need safer place as home, regardless price.

Hurricane :

KClim :I’m a silent buyer. Yes, I’m very disappointed with the quality but I think we need to also fair to the developer. Some of the things OVPC requested already completed ractified by the developer. Nobody has mentioned this and I’m very sad when I saw all bad things posted. I’m concern on safety but my investment value too. Only a few hero in the OVPC trying to make things worse.

We real owner will not do this. You still think only 1-2 buyer piss off? Sorry u are wrong here. Most club member are own staying. If you not stay but investment, then that your business. In all situation, safety come first. If some incident happen in you unit and due to your ignorance, that good luck to you. Your house price surely dip down. What if the death is you love one, all residence in Orange Villa will express pityful to you. Ignorance cause death.

god is watching dont give blatant lies here. i already visited the showhouse and the handrail is not shaky as what you claimed, it vibrates which is logic as it’s made of mild steel.

Hahahaha. Seem like developer have no defence now, asking their proxy come in and tell the whole list of complain message are one sabotager. Really making me laugh. This developer, no hope already. I am a buyer too, but so far have not receive any letter or call asking to see their rectification work. 100% fully agree to use this Penang Properties Talk as the forum to slap whoever bad developer. Here is one of it.

tornado :

messi :
My technical experience tell me, this king of vibration, will result in long term loose for the bolt that hold the hand rail. Did you see hand rail, it break into separate piece of hand rail and only hold by 2 bolt at the wall. (no at the floor). The main problem is, the hand rail did not connected to each other. It separate and very easy the shaky and vibrate. I think if you push your the wall with your leg, and you body release the force to the hand rail, 100% it will permanent band. If not i should not continue to voice here and face u. If you still insist, then it is your choice to endander to your family. Death is possible.

messi may be good in soccer but not handrail. you said 2 bolts? this sounds scaryyyyy. this will scare those who has not been to the showhouse. for your info it’s 6 bolts for one panel and not 2 as claimed by you. are you a real buyer? you better go to the showhouse again. dont tell me you are from other developer?

zero tolerance on safety. you might be superman but not the other.

@Dennis

now you use another name to support you? pathetic

Thx Dennis.
This tornado tried to mis-lead other, no problem for the hand rail. This weakness is far beyond my tolerance also. Let us ignore him as he may be rich and affort to install lift and no need to hand rail. But not other majority buyer like us. No point conitnue to listen to his barking.

messi is messi, dennis is dennis ….. moron is moron, just like u.

@messi
you dont talk nonsense here. i also didnt instal lift to my unit. i just cant tolerate moron like you who keep deceiving ppl on this forum on the safety of handrail. i bet you have not complain to the developer directly cos you know this is not a reasonable complain and you dont want them to know your real identity. that’s why you use this forum to talk cheap. you made a lot of ppl feel fed up to read this forum, you have abused this forum.

dont be a coward to use multiple names on this forum. we are buyers we have to deal directly with the developer and not this forum. your problem will not be solved here unless you approach the developer but your motive to sabotage this project will surely be achieved cos those who read this forum will surely reject this project if they blindly believe what you said.

be it messi or dennis my advise to you is complain reasonably and dont be sooooo exaggerate. god bless you.

tornado :
@messi
you dont talk nonsense here. i also didnt instal lift to my unit. i just cant tolerate moron like you who keep deceiving ppl on this forum on the safety of handrail. i bet you have not complain to the developer directly cos you know this is not a reasonable complain and you dont want them to know your real identity. that’s why you use this forum to talk cheap. you made a lot of ppl feel fed up to read this forum, you have abused this forum.
dont be a coward to use multiple names on this forum. we are buyers we have to deal directly with the developer and not this forum. your problem will not be solved here unless you approach the developer but your motive to sabotage this project will surely be achieved cos those who read this forum will surely reject this project if they blindly believe what you said.
be it messi or dennis my advise to you is complain reasonably and dont be sooooo exaggerate. god bless you.

Yup, tat is totally so true. Empty vessels make the loudest sound.
From merdeka to dennis then to messi.

You are working to the developer. What else we can say? Whatever we say you all must deny it. Let other buyers come to judge. Poor sales is not because of our comments, is due to the facts. We are so frustrating with the attitude of the developer, keep on denying of the problems. The attitude and the reply from the developer would be exactly like what you wrote it here, Ms tornado and penangite!!!

@tornado, pls go to see BM utama phase III’s handrail, the design similiar with orange villa but it is not shaky or vibrate at all. Why DNP can do it but Twah can’t ? This is because Twah not pay full attention to the buyer’s complaint regarding their low class material used and also the quality of workmanship !!! no-name developer is like that i think, they just focus on earning and less focus on Quality Assurance !!!

i went to the show house lately and noticed that the “hole” at the roof of the car porch which for sunlight come in already been sealed by Twah, so bad !!! why Twah wanted to seal that sunlight “hole”, the house will looks no class.

i went to visit Harmoni Residence at jalan betik which same road with OV, and noticed that HR also got a sunlight “hole” at their car porch, they not sealed it but they used a nice glass and mild steel to design that sunlight “hole”, it looks nice to me.

Why AirMas group can place a nice glass with mild steel to cover the sunlight “hole” but Twah just sealed it up? i recall that sunlight “hole” should be there and yes, it is there when i refer Twah’s brochure. Why Twah not did like what Airmas group did? it will be dark if the sunlight “hole” is totally sealed, it not looks class too !!! Again, no-name developer is like that i think, they just focus on earning and less focus on buyer’s feeling cause they’re not the one who will staying in the house !!!

merdeka :You are working to the developer. What else we can say? Whatever we say you all must deny it. Let other buyers come to judge. Poor sales is not because of our comments, is due to the facts. We are so frustrating with the attitude of the developer, keep on denying of the problems. The attitude and the reply from the developer would be exactly like what you wrote it here, Ms tornado and penangite!!!

i agreed, poor sales is because of the facts that real buyers raised here !!! Penangite and tornado should go to BM utama phase III and Harmoni Residence or Jesselton hills to visit their show house before making any comments.

@tornado,
Deal with developer directly ? we did that but developer just said ” don’t worry, we will looking on this”, but at the end, nothing is done by developer. They just paint a good picture to potential buyer, marketing styles i believe !!!

@Amazint

our motive are same here – We want quality home from developer ! we give true feedbacks to public to alert them on how bad this developer..

I have visited Harmoni Residence, it is totally overpriced and the design that I ‘like’ the most is the master bedroom’s balcony, I think the size of the balcony is bigger than the bedroom. Beside that, I also ‘like’ the tiny size of all the rooms even though the developer trying to do some illusion tricks by making the rooms’ ceiling high enough. Oh ya, they have a lot of restrooms, if you are someone who like to wash the toilet bowl and clean the toilet, this is the house you should pick. ‘Lovely’ design isn’t it? Hahaha…good job to whoever the developer is.
Anyway, after I have viewed so many ‘constructive’ comments in this forum from whoever they claimed themselves the buyers of OV, my confident toward the OV developer started to shake, but I know the only way to verify all these claims, is to go to the site and take a look myself. I went there yesterday with my wife and we checked out the new handrail as what the developer promised to change, my wife and I think that this new handrail is much more solid and I saw some of you complaining about the new handrail is shaky, well frankly speaking I think you have used the wrong word, maybe is due to your limited education level, I don’t know, anyway it is not shaky at all. Shaky means 1. Shaking or trembling 2. Unstable because of poor construction. I knocked the new handrail and it vibrates. This is an expected behavior as the handrail is installed piece by piece, the handrail is high and it only screwed at the bottom part and that is the only support is has, so not a surprise to see this. As long as the steal of the handrail is strong enough, I don’t see any safety issue with this handrail. You don’t have to trust every single words that I said here, go ahead and drive to the site and take a look at their new handrail, try to lean on the handrail to see if it is strong enough.
I would like to advise those people who intentionally sabotage the OV developer, I don’t give a damn what kind of hard feelings you have with them, but the OV buyers have nothing to do all this, so stop jeopardizing our investments. Karma will hit you back my friend

@Penangite
Hahaha…you are right. By the way, I heard you guys have some buyers club or something like that? Can I joined?

Penangite :

J@ckal :I have visited Harmoni Residence, it is totally overpriced and the design that I ‘like’ the most is the master bedroom’s balcony, I think the size of the balcony is bigger than the bedroom. Beside that, I also ‘like’ the tiny size of all the rooms even though the developer trying to do some illusion tricks by making the rooms’ ceiling high enough. Oh ya, they have a lot of restrooms, if you are someone who like to wash the toilet bowl and clean the toilet, this is the house you should pick. ‘Lovely’ design isn’t it? Hahaha…good job to whoever the developer is.Anyway, after I have viewed so many ‘constructive’ comments in this forum from whoever they claimed themselves the buyers of OV, my confident toward the OV developer started to shake, but I know the only way to verify all these claims, is to go to the site and take a look myself. I went there yesterday with my wife and we checked out the new handrail as what the developer promised to change, my wife and I think that this new handrail is much more solid and I saw some of you complaining about the new handrail is shaky, well frankly speaking I think you have used the wrong word, maybe is due to your limited education level, I don’t know, anyway it is not shaky at all. Shaky means 1. Shaking or trembling 2. Unstable because of poor construction. I knocked the new handrail and it vibrates. This is an expected behavior as the handrail is installed piece by piece, the handrail is high and it only screwed at the bottom part and that is the only support is has, so not a surprise to see this. As long as the steal of the handrail is strong enough, I don’t see any safety issue with this handrail. You don’t have to trust every single words that I said here, go ahead and drive to the site and take a look at their new handrail, try to lean on the handrail to see if it is strong enough.I would like to advise those people who intentionally sabotage the OV developer, I don’t give a damn what kind of hard feelings you have with them, but the OV buyers have nothing to do all this, so stop jeopardizing our investments. Karma will hit you back my friend

Dont worry Jackal, our unit price will eventually increase and thanks to their publicity now OV is so famous. It has been the most talked project in town. What goes around comes around.

Did you go to see the BM utama phase 3 ? their handrail is similiar with orange villa but more solid, no shaky or vibrate at all. why orange villa’s handrail vibrate but the BM utama phase 3 one not? Developer should learn from there, not just come here and kap niah..

@J@ckal

Ya. Overall, Harmony Residensi’s design is bad. The living, dining, kitchen area are small. But i agreed with @tienpen comment on HR car porch’s sunlight hole design is better than orange villa. Developer should not sealed the initial sunlight hole, if the hole is sealed then the car porch area will be dark..This is terrace house, imagine when you got 20+ houses in a row without any sunlight hole at the car porch, not even it is dark later, the outlook desgin on the car porch will be not nice as well, it is like a low cost apartment.

Tahwah should re-open the sunlight hole at the car porch with the see through glass or some quality material that can last long.

AngryBuyer :Yes, this email is real, but you still need to wait for the club invitation meeting to show out your self before can join the FaceBook to view the picture. This is to avoid sabotage come in and disturb real purchaser. You need to let existing club member confortable with you first.YoungCouple,Pls double consider to post the real picture because this will surely kill developer business and good name, we believe you will paste those poor design & quality photo. But we have to really consider if developer close shop, we will also got pull into the hot soup. Are we too hush to developer? What if, here we give warning to developer to immediate rectify all poor design and quality that hilite in the OV purchacer club letter and in this forum. Let say we give 2 week time for developer to plan, inform purchaser club members and response in this forum, then after rectify, inform purchaser to visit their show house again.1) Shaky Hand Rail (Too much vibrate and will loose one day, less then 1 years)2) Broken Brick was use for outer wall and inner wall3) Backyard garden partition use loose brick, easy to remove.If after 2 weeks from today, Aug30, still not reaction from developer, i would say, you can go ahead and post all those lousy design picture and the shaky hand rail picture on to this site. (Admin Ken have give us green like to start post real design and quality issue photo onto this forum). Again, this is another procedent that buyer start to use Penang Properties Blog to post quality photo to show to all reader, potential buyer and let them have a better picture and judgement before buy any properties. What do you think, all other real purchaser?To me, i have paid my first 10%, i am ready to burn this money if developer close shop. I will not stay quiet and let developer take advantage to all our hard earn money.

agreed. just post the photo. i m ok to lose my 10% + others fees.

i get the same result from developer when i asked them the quality issue that brought here, the sales girl who having long curly hair said that is architect responsibility not them, i don’t think they’ll take seriously on buyer’s complaint !

Just post the photo, let us see it !!

Max :
i get the same result from developer when i asked them the quality issue that brought here, the sales girl who having long curly hair said that is architect responsibility not them, i don’t think they’ll take seriously on buyer’s complaint !
Just post the photo, let us see it !!

Thanks a lot Max for sharing..

StopBuyMoment :

GangnamStyle :Hi all, we are real buyer and urge all other buyer, pls not to buy OrgVilla1/2. We regret to buy here. We urge here is actually want to give a lesson to developer. Due to their name is bad now, result in OrgVilla2 have to lauch lower end house, cheaper house. Continue to urge they will close down very soon. I am preparing to burn my 10% down payment here. We are not sabotage buy basically very angry real purchaser.

Yes, fully agreed.Pls stop buying OrangeVilla.Stop buy from this developer from supporting sociaty blood sucker.Until now, no one buyer stand up praise on this developer.

agree with this comment !

i a bit regret after buy this project. i’m not regret on orange villa but i regret on the ways this developer serving their customer’s complaints. i think they like to push responsibility to other party after the sales. so bad ! some more they just keeping nice wording when called to check on quality issue – ‘we will look at this thing’, but in the actual, nothing has been done on the complaints !

@Penangite
I think the hole is a stupid and old design, if that is OV design, i will definitely will not consider it at all.

@Fong
No, I have not visited BM utama phase 3 show unit yet. Is the show unit still open for viewing purpose? If yes, then I should visit it this coming weekend.

J@ckal :@Fong No, I have not visited BM utama phase 3 show unit yet. Is the show unit still open for viewing purpose? If yes, then I should visit it this coming weekend.

I visited last Sunday. The guard open for me. understand from the guard is that no sales rep on sunday, saturday yes. The handrail is more solid compare to orange villa. Go and check it.

People who care about quality because it is the place they are going to live for whole of his/her life. OV is good place to invest of living because it is in good location. If OV is nobody care about, I do not think People will spend time to read the forum, and comment it or even invest it. People has right to feedback, developer has right to refuse if it violate his company policy or extra cost to pay. I like OV, I like third floor show house design but nothing is perfect. At least I see here is channel to gather all opinions to feedback to developer. I do not see other forum is so hot about to discuss it.

Justin :
People who care about quality because it is the place they are going to live for whole of his/her life. OV is good place to invest of living because it is in good location. If OV is nobody care about, I do not think People will spend time to read the forum, and comment it or even invest it. People has right to feedback, developer has right to refuse if it violate his company policy or extra cost to pay. I like OV, I like third floor show house design but nothing is perfect. At least I see here is channel to gather all opinions to feedback to developer. I do not see other forum is so hot about to discuss it.

yes i agree with you and that’s why i bought a unit at OV, it’s actually my dream house and looking forward to its completion. ppl has the right to feedback but some are blatant lies. that’s why i am trying to speak the truth here.

I am fully regret on buying this Banglo Limau ……………….. we enter onto Piraute Ship d. I think we should continue to bombard their up coming project at Bagan and Condo at Bw. Let them out of business. If you are developer reader, trust us, out anger sentinent have flame-up high until the sky. Get ready in future, developer management will have hard time if not doing right thing now.

Janson :
I am fully regret on buying this Banglo Limau ……………….. we enter onto Piraute Ship d. I think we should continue to bombard their up coming project at Bagan and Condo at Bw. Let them out of business. If you are developer reader, trust us, out anger sentinent have flame-up high until the sky. Get ready in future, developer management will have hard time if not doing right thing now.

never under estimate propagation over internet.

Moly :

YapJJ :i agree. the photos on bad quality are in OVPC facebook. that facebook is for genuine buyers to join and not open for potential buyers or for public views/discussion ! u can proceed your orders with twh if you’re not believe on what we said here, the money is yours.twh did received the complaints letter on the bad brickworks/broken bricks together with the defect photos from buyer, u can ask them to show u the photos if you’re doubt on what we said here, you can ask them to show you their replied to the buyer too. See they dare to share the photos/replied with u or not.Or you can go to OV site to check by your own, the best place to spot are at beside the keow kwang primary school and also the pejabat tanah/mpsp. Remember to bring telescope so that you can see clearly the “quality” of workmanship and the “quality” of bricks used.it is not easy to earn $$ to buy a terrace house with price more than half millions, however the choice is yours !!!

This idea is good. Asking the developer to show u the complaints letter from buyers before u buy is a good move, but i think developer will not dare to show you the complaint letter and pictures loh. They also scare this will impact their sales ma. hehe

Anyone asking developer to show the pictures and complaint letter?
What is the response from developer?

no need to ask, developer sure will not show you the complaint letters and picture ! They scare too mah..

@YoungCouple
Where’s the photos that you’ve promised to post?

I think if the developer really wants to settle the problem once and for all, they should form a special task force, which consist of specialists in hand rail design, and design + replace all the hand rail.

It’s an eye opening to see so many buyers (or is it a repeated few only??) bombard about this hand rail issue. It defies the conventional wisdom about properties, as people used to say property is about LOCATION, LOCATION and LOCATION. I say Nah… this is outdated. Nowadays properties (spearheaded by Orange Villa) is all about HAND RAIL, HAND RAIL, and yes you got it, HAND RAIL. Without a good hand rail, no matter how good your location, or how low your price, the project will be doomed to fail.

@Shawn

Not only handrail issue, buyers want quality on materials & workmanship as well, quality house is important to all the buyers!

Shawn :
I think if the developer really wants to settle the problem once and for all, they should form a special task force, which consist of specialists in hand rail design, and design + replace all the hand rail.
It’s an eye opening to see so many buyers (or is it a repeated few only??) bombard about this hand rail issue. It defies the conventional wisdom about properties, as people used to say property is about LOCATION, LOCATION and LOCATION. I say Nah… this is outdated. Nowadays properties (spearheaded by Orange Villa) is all about HAND RAIL, HAND RAIL, and yes you got it, HAND RAIL. Without a good hand rail, no matter how good your location, or how low your price, the project will be doomed to fail.

Hahaha…
Jojo, merdeka, dennis the menace, and messiah is the same person who will complained on all sorts of quality issue in OV but not others. Then without posting the photo to prove that they are the genuine buyer after being asked to.

@Amazint

Haha..Amazint is a developer proxy.

Which buyer type doesn’t want quality house want de…

i scare to buy house develop by this noname developer after seeing so much complaints on quality de..

xiaokia :
i scare to buy house develop by this noname developer after seeing so much complaints on quality de..

Then better u dun buy & stop kpc on giving any comment instead of keep gong to say luckly i never buy, ask ppl not to buy all this nonsense, just let the real buyer to give comment, ok?

Shawn :
@YoungCouple
Where’s the photos that you’ve promised to post?

Dun ask, the photo wun come out, I been asking for so many times oledi b4 booking, b4 sign S & P, b4 paid 10% and I believe that even after 2 weeks (from last month end), no body will post the photo

@Chew
Most likely either they don’t have any photo, or their photos don’t really show much about the poor quality that they claim to have. If he still can’t post the photo as he promised, it will be like what people say in Hokkien — “Chui Gong Lampa Song”. 😛

ya, luckily i did not buy it le….hehe…so many buyer complaints on quality…scary le !!

i guess they afraid this project will tak laku once they show it here, so they not dare to do so ma.

u see. developer also not dare to show when asked, they said got complaints but they cannot share the photo, if u want to buy then buy loh.

xiaokia :
i guess they afraid this project will tak laku once they show it here, so they not dare to do so ma.

Mungkin la… Tapi x tau whether developer can decide which project to be showed here atau tidak loh… kekeke…

xiaokia :
u see. developer also not dare to show when asked, they said got complaints but they cannot share the photo, if u want to buy then buy loh.

Can share la!!! x ada masalar loh!!! kekeke…

Hope only real buyer or interested buyer only give comment

i think swimming pool might leak water after 3-5 years later loh cause developer not focusing on quality issues mah….luckily i not buy le…hehehe

Another 4 days we can view the photo from OVPC, only after view the photo we can give further comments ob the brick wall.

Chew :Another 4 days we can view the photo from OVPC, only after view the photo we can give further comments ob the brick wall.

Did u ask developer to show u the complaint letters and photo when signing S&P time? What did developer response to u?

I am one oft eh complainant also. I am interested how developer response to your resquest to see the letter before you sign the SnP.
Or you just sign with assume developer response well to the complain letter?

Ken (Admin) :@YoungCouple Yes, all genuine photos can be posted here. Just send the photos to admin@penangpropertytalk.com.
Thanks.

Admin, Ken, after 4 days, we will post the photo of the lousy brick wall of Orange Villa. It is real picture and not fake one. Are you sure you will post it up? Pls help not to block my message.

yes, this will be a d-day for this developer. Are you sure you want to post the photo? If you did it, you will be the first in Penang Properties Talk who did this. But how do you sure that admin will not filter it and not to post it for you?

If we dun trust Ken, Admin, then why wasting our time in this forum, he can delete or amend our message, he can use other name to add message if he want, to me, He can be trust.

AngryBuyer :Yes, this email is real, but you still need to wait for the club invitation meeting to show out your self before can join the FaceBook to view the picture. This is to avoid sabotage come in and disturb real purchaser. You need to let existing club member confortable with you first.YoungCouple,Pls double consider to post the real picture because this will surely kill developer business and good name, we believe you will paste those poor design & quality photo. But we have to really consider if developer close shop, we will also got pull into the hot soup. Are we too hush to developer? What if, here we give warning to developer to immediate rectify all poor design and quality that hilite in the OV purchacer club letter and in this forum. Let say we give 2 week time for developer to plan, inform purchaser club members and response in this forum, then after rectify, inform purchaser to visit their show house again.1) Shaky Hand Rail (Too much vibrate and will loose one day, less then 1 years)2) Broken Brick was use for outer wall and inner wall3) Backyard garden partition use loose brick, easy to remove.If after 2 weeks from today, Aug30, still not reaction from developer, i would say, you can go ahead and post all those lousy design picture and the shaky hand rail picture on to this site. (Admin Ken have give us green like to start post real design and quality issue photo onto this forum). Again, this is another procedent that buyer start to use Penang Properties Blog to post quality photo to show to all reader, potential buyer and let them have a better picture and judgement before buy any properties. What do you think, all other real purchaser?To me, i have paid my first 10%, i am ready to burn this money if developer close shop. I will not stay quiet and let developer take advantage to all our hard earn money.

YoungCouple :Pls give them two weeks time to response. I think developer bad attitude have force purchaser club suggest this hard move. Hope developer could come it and comment? By the way, where is developer Proxy? hello, where is AhTu?

Tomorrow is 14th, due date, please forward the photo to admin Ken so tomorrow morning everybody can go thru the photo

received SA call just now, Orange Villa phase 2 is opened for booking, price start from RM 523,800 after discount for terrace 2 1/2 storey, free legal fee for S&P & loan…built up 22 x 42. How you all think is it worth to consider?

@BJ
Brother, today already 14th la, tommrrow we can view the photo liao

I have to express sorry to all the OV buyer, as i have sent some pictures to Admin Ken, that showing a) Broken Bricks usage b) Low quality staircase. It is now up to the Admin decision to post it in this blog or not. But we have to say that all picture are real and could be found when you visit to the show house and construction site.

Ken (Admin) :@Janson Don’t worry, I have my ways to find out if those photos are real
Just forward the pictures to admin@penangpropertytalk.com. If that is something real, I don’t see any harm sharing with others.

Admin, still waiting for you to post the picture.

No more picture ? to me is this normal at construction site, its acceptable for me.

Anyhow, Tah Wah Land, please highlight to your contractor on this matter, it looks ugly, you need to highlight to your site supervisor also….

AngryBuyer :I have to express sorry to all the OV buyer, as i have sent some pictures to Admin Ken, that showing a) Broken Bricks usage b) Low quality staircase. It is now up to the Admin decision to post it in this blog or not. But we have to say that all picture are real and could be found when you visit to the show house and construction site.

If this house is belong to OVPC buyer, This can help to take action in future when developer handover the key to you

Chew :No more picture ? to me is this normal at construction site, its acceptable for me.

You expectation is low, developer will like to take your low standard as reference. This is total now helping developer to lift up expectation. continue to speak ok ok here just to tell developer no need to improve.

I just see the brick wall picture here. Thx Admin posted the picture by other buyer. I fully respect those buyer for Orange Villa and Admin in Penang Properties talk, you are really up hold your integrity, fully respect. In fact my house also got broken brick like the 3rd picture. I worry, broken brick like this will be the weaker point to start crack if underground start settle and sink. The entire wall will show sever crack, because the wall brick are not interlocking or holding strong enough to each other. If the brick all are follow standard way and interlocking good, then it will be more strong. I will have more picture to post if developer still have no response to their house. To me i dont care the house price will drop because of this comment, i bought it for own stay and do expect to sell immediately.

Waht we want is a good finishing, strong structure and quality house, and not like those show above in the 3rd picture (broken bricks usage) !!!!!

Chew :

AngryBuyer :I have to express sorry to all the OV buyer, as i have sent some pictures to Admin Ken, that showing a) Broken Bricks usage b) Low quality staircase. It is now up to the Admin decision to post it in this blog or not. But we have to say that all picture are real and could be found when you visit to the show house and construction site.

If this house is belong to OVPC buyer, This can help to take action in future when developer handover the key to you

If only hilite the burden will be on Buyer, if push now, burden will be on developer. Which one u like? Obviously the later one.

We can see picture 1 & 2 is the contractor try to save 1 row of brick for each wall. The 3rd picture is totally cannot accept. Those pictures out will definitely affect the phase 2 sales. TahWah has call me the OV phase 2 has launch and before he continue explain more further information, I answer them I have no interested anymore due to poor workmanship and material wise. hang off.

To All potential buyers,
Think twice before sign the S&P.

The quality of OV is NO GOOD. The workers seems like cincai do and no QA at all from the supervisor or the developer. Can throw back this lousy works back to developer to redo the whole thing. Cannot accept if I saw this at my own house building progress

OVY :The quality of OV is NO GOOD. The workers seems like cincai do and no QA at all from the supervisor or the developer. Can throw back this lousy works back to developer to redo the whole thing. Cannot accept if I saw this at my own house building progress

We’ve complaints to this developer on the lousy works and lousy material(broken bricks) usage, but unfortunately they just pushed the responsibility to their architech and main contractor.

So, better think twice when you plan to buy OV2, their service after sales is very bad !

penangite :I just see the brick wall picture here. Thx Admin posted the picture by other buyer. I fully respect those buyer for Orange Villa and Admin in Penang Properties talk, you are really up hold your integrity, fully respect. In fact my house also got broken brick like the 3rd picture. I worry, broken brick like this will be the weaker point to start crack if underground start settle and sink. The entire wall will show sever crack, because the wall brick are not interlocking or holding strong enough to each other. If the brick all are follow standard way and interlocking good, then it will be more strong. I will have more picture to post if developer still have no response to their house. To me i dont care the house price will drop because of this comment, i bought it for own stay and do expect to sell immediately.
Waht we want is a good finishing, strong structure and quality house, and not like those show above in the 3rd picture (broken bricks usage) !!!!!

Please post the picture u have to Admin Ken so that he can place it at this forum.

OVY :The quality of OV is NO GOOD. The workers seems like cincai do and no QA at all from the supervisor or the developer. Can throw back this lousy works back to developer to redo the whole thing. Cannot accept if I saw this at my own house building progress

They really cincai do the works. Seem likes Dato Hong and his management team all are tidurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…..zzzzzzz……. Hope that the bad quality pictures which posted here will give them a slap till they wake up and take serious attention to their maiden housing project in BM !

Visited the show house again to check on OV2. Rectify the quality problem highlighted. It is partially true, but not as bad as I imagine.

I decided not go for OV2, not really because of the quality issue, but mainly because of the price.

Bryan :Visited the show house again to check on OV2. Rectify the quality problem highlighted. It is partially true, but not as bad as I imagine.
I decided not go for OV2, not really because of the quality issue, but mainly because of the price.

This is exactly the reason purchaser club angry, over price and yet deliver broken brick. I fully agree penangite to post more picture in this blog. I also dont care the price will be affected, i only need developer deliver a house that can give me peace of mind of safety, no sinking, no crack. I will plan to stay here for long long time.

Very good, where are all those developer Proxy? All quiet already.
I really respect Orange Villa Real Purchaser and Admin (Ken), you are really doing a very good job of using this blog as a very good tools to apply pressure to developer that show bad attitude and ignore customer. What we can see here is, developer was made them self have all this consequence. They have a chance not to, but they choose to ignore real buyer voice. They take risk that real buyer will not go internet to tell the real thing.

Lionel Messi :Very good, where are all those developer Proxy? All quiet already.I really respect Orange Villa Real Purchaser and Admin (Ken), you are really doing a very good job of using this blog as a very good tools to apply pressure to developer that show bad attitude and ignore customer. What we can see here is, developer was made them self have all this consequence. They have a chance not to, but they choose to ignore real buyer voice. They take risk that real buyer will not go internet to tell the real thing.

Of couse la, when we talk fact, they are out of fact. Cannot counter already. I could see this developer will in hard time to push for their sale. Expecially during current tough time in sale. NO NO to Orange Villa

Pls refer to the staircase picture, is this a low cost flat quality hand holder? My apartment holder was still better this so called ‘High End Product’ ………..really kidding me. Now the market price of the quality hand holder is RM200-250 per foot, to change all 3.5 levels houses, it will cost you all RM30k-40k (not even got glass one). I suggest you all puch for the developer to change a better qua;ity hand rail for you all. Pls reject those new vibrate hand rail. It will not last long. You all still need to change.

simplethings :
Pls refer to the staircase picture, is this a low cost flat quality hand holder? My apartment holder was still better this so called ‘High End Product’ ………..really kidding me. Now the market price of the quality hand holder is RM200-250 per foot, to change all 3.5 levels houses, it will cost you all RM30k-40k (not even got glass one). I suggest you all puch for the developer to change a better qua;ity hand rail for you all. Pls reject those new vibrate hand rail. It will not last long. You all still need to change.

the staricase photo is outdated one. Dev has changed it.. go and view by yourself.
the only setback is the handrail is shaky. probably, they need to solve the shaking issue.

RY7 :We can see picture 1 & 2 is the contractor try to save 1 row of brick for each wall. The 3rd picture is totally cannot accept. Those pictures out will definitely affect the phase 2 sales. TahWah has call me the OV phase 2 has launch and before he continue explain more further information, I answer them I have no interested anymore due to poor workmanship and material wise. hang off.
To All potential buyers,Think twice before sign the S&P.

发展商没有钱买砖块? 偷工减料? 他们员工的 quality 和 materials 实在差 !!!!!!!

这个Tah Wah 实在烂!!

Janet :

RY7 :We can see picture 1 & 2 is the contractor try to save 1 row of brick for each wall. The 3rd picture is totally cannot accept. Those pictures out will definitely affect the phase 2 sales. TahWah has call me the OV phase 2 has launch and before he continue explain more further information, I answer them I have no interested anymore due to poor workmanship and material wise. hang off.
To All potential buyers,Think twice before sign the S&P.

发展商没有钱买砖块? 偷工减料? 他们员工的 quality 和 materials 实在差 !!!!!!!

Is not that they don’t have money to buy brick. Is the contractor want to have more profit…
TahWah should look on their contractor to make sure they build good quality house and deliver to customers.

Or MAYBE TahWah have give a very low budget to the contractor to build the houses? Who knows???

TW have responsibility to make sure the contractor’s have do their job up to standard, good quality material used and safety for the peoples who stay in the houses.

If you spending so much money to buy a not safe house but it so call “Good Location”, I would said life is more important…

Again to all potential buyers,
Please think twice before you sign the S&P

dennis :

simplethings :Pls refer to the staircase picture, is this a low cost flat quality hand holder? My apartment holder was still better this so called ‘High End Product’ ………..really kidding me. Now the market price of the quality hand holder is RM200-250 per foot, to change all 3.5 levels houses, it will cost you all RM30k-40k (not even got glass one). I suggest you all puch for the developer to change a better qua;ity hand rail for you all. Pls reject those new vibrate hand rail. It will not last long. You all still need to change.

the staricase photo is outdated one. Dev has changed it.. go and view by yourself.the only setback is the handrail is shaky. probably, they need to solve the shaking issue.

dennis, you are too generous, to ‘probably need to chg’ but, developer ‘MUST change’ it. Or else i will still have to folk out RM30-40K just to chg the hand rail. Pls express clear out stand.

Look like now 95% of the comment here are condemming developer. To all, just check and see, why only happen to this developer? Must have something very wrong to this developer. Look thru all the comment, seem like all those developer proxy like AhTu,Vgal.my all gone already. May be develope give up to hire proxy, stop paying them already.
To all, say no to Orange Villa 2, say no to their future high rise and GnG.

I am back ,

AhTu……..

it is safe to use broken brick to build houses……? if there is earth quake in Indonesia can the wall collapse or not ….? worry…….

@V@gmal.my
Are u AhTu’s follower or anak angkat? Why everything has to ask AhTu? Or u 2 are the same person? I can foresee later AhTu will jump out and answer u adi. We will see…

Alma :
@V@gmal.my
Are u AhTu’s follower or anak angkat? Why everything has to ask AhTu? Or u 2 are the same person? I can foresee later AhTu will jump out and answer u adi. We will see…

I am not AhTu follower or anak angkat.
Why everything I want to ask AhTu….? because he can explain, suggest and comment properly ma……

using broken bricks definitely no good lo…i think TWH’s site manager along with their site engineer are sleeping at the site. Why they cannot allowed their contractor to use broken bricks ? They workmanship also very bad if look on those three photos…really regret to buy this project. If i know their quality is like that, i won’t buy lo…. club house and swimming pool can crack bo after few years later?

typo. Why they can allowed their contractor to use broken bricks ?

V@gmal.my :I am back ,
AhTu……..
it is safe to use broken brick to build houses……? if there is earth quake in Indonesia can the wall collapse or not ….? worry…….

The foundation and concrete framework (re-inforced concrete beams and columns) bear the structural strength of the house. Broken bricks are just the filler for the wall….you can make big hole in the wall but the house will still stand.

i called TWH to complaints as well but the response from sales manager – ms Lee is that building inpection is done by ALM Architects, their appointed company not TWH..if ALM said OK, then OK to them too..i think the response from TWH very sxck lo…..really not responsible as what the others told previously…regret, regret & regret..what to do, we already signed the S&P…

Eng :

V@gmal.my :I am back ,AhTu……..it is safe to use broken brick to build houses……? if there is earth quake in Indonesia can the wall collapse or not ….? worry…….

The foundation and concrete framework (re-inforced concrete beams and columns) bear the structural strength of the house. Broken bricks are just the filler for the wall….you can make big hole in the wall but the house will still stand.

it won’t collapse but it might easily cracking lo !

Boo :

Eng :

V@gmal.my :I am back ,AhTu……..it is safe to use broken brick to build houses……? if there is earth quake in Indonesia can the wall collapse or not ….? worry…….

The foundation and concrete framework (re-inforced concrete beams and columns) bear the structural strength of the house. Broken bricks are just the filler for the wall….you can make big hole in the wall but the house will still stand.

it won’t collapse but it might easily cracking lo !

the wall crack….., can it effect if raining can the rain water leaking inside the house…..?

@V@gmal.my
Fine wall cracks will not cause any rain water leaking into the house. It is surface cracking of the wall plaster and is easily fixed/patched up with putty you can purchase from the supermarket. If the concrete framework is not up to specification, earthquake tremors beyond a certain Richter scale could weaken your framework and in worst case result in a collapse. Houses in Malaysia are not earthquake proof like those in Japan where earthquakes are common.

Eng

thank for your explanation……

AhTU…… where are you…..?

@V@gmal.my
I bet AhTu will come out and explain blah blah blah for you shortly.

Boo :i called TWH to complaints as well but the response from sales manager – ms Lee is that building inpection is done by ALM Architects, their appointed company not TWH..if ALM said OK, then OK to them too..i think the response from TWH very sxck lo…..really not responsible as what the others told previously…regret, regret & regret..what to do, we already signed the S&P…

Huh! developer so ego? better boycott their OV2, see how ego they’re if sales no good later !

The quality shown in those 3 photos looks bad, this surely will scare away lot of potential buyers on TW housing project.

Boo :
i called TWH to complaints as well but the response from sales manager – ms Lee is that building inpection is done by ALM Architects, their appointed company not TWH..if ALM said OK, then OK to them too..i think the response from TWH very sxck lo…..really not responsible as what the others told previously…regret, regret & regret..what to do, we already signed the S&P…

Then, somebody has to write to the association / government body to check if this is the standard approved by them.

Alma :@V@gmal.my I bet AhTu will come out and explain blah blah blah for you shortly.

Better AhTu dont appear here, cause he have loss credibility and trust already, got so many loop hold his statement that cannot explain. He appear will just create another bombardment only. Besides, we are not welcome him as developer proxy. This V@gmal.my again so easily trust him, normal people will not trust AhTu d. The only reason in V.gmal.my is AhTu, same person with different nick name.

I have more picture ready share in the blog. But i worry later mu house price will drop. Pls advice me, should i post now? Tell me Pro and Con

Gabriel :

Alma :@V@gmal.my I bet AhTu will come out and explain blah blah blah for you shortly.

Better AhTu dont appear here, cause he have loss credibility and trust already, got so many loop hold his statement that cannot explain. He appear will just create another bombardment only. Besides, we are not welcome him as developer proxy. This V@gmal.my again so easily trust him, normal people will not trust AhTu d. The only reason in V.gmal.my is AhTu, same person with different nick name.

I am not AhTu…..AhTu is another person. why I trust AhTu because what he said got logic ma……..
AhTu……AhTu……. where are you………..?

Sorry, i dont trust him. As he chicken out from the club. Talk big but dare not show out. He is siding developer, if you trust this proxy, u will cause developer may thing customer ok with their quality.

you guys are condemning Ah Tu wrongly. if you are OVPC member and sensitive enough to the talking style of each member. you will know ah tu is with us.

nice photo…any one go and check IJM or DNP or SP Setia workmanship for comparison??

Birdyman :
I have more picture ready share in the blog. But i worry later mu house price will drop. Pls advice me, should i post now? Tell me Pro and Con

Why not u e mail to Ken, admin and let everybody know the whole picture of the workmanship.

Chew :

Birdyman :I have more picture ready share in the blog. But i worry later mu house price will drop. Pls advice me, should i post now? Tell me Pro and Con

Why not u e mail to Ken, admin and let everybody know the whole picture of the workmanship.

Birdyman – let us see what you have. I believe the sharing at here will give TahWah and other developers to pay more attentions on quality delivery. A good lesson learn to them too when they treat badly the complaints from customer. 😉

dennis :you guys are condemning Ah Tu wrongly. if you are OVPC member and sensitive enough to the talking style of each member. you will know ah tu is with us.

Pls dont side AhTu, he have loss his integrity already. He have use multiple name to hit some of purchaser club members. I also have some picture on the site. May be we can post to YouTube as well.

no more photos to share?

This picture is enough d, later developer tutup kedai then purchaser susah loh.

Papaya :
This picture is enough d, later developer tutup kedai then purchaser susah loh.

If the developer cannot do commit their promise to their customers. Buyers should work out something to tell the developer you are out of track. More pictures to share here is to let the developer know if you still don’t improve from now and commit what you promise to your customers. Tutup kedai is sooner or later after this project.

TW should put different price categories for OV. Starting from 500k for units with broken sand bricks and lowest quality handrail, as shown with the pictures above. 600k for full size bricks and better stainless steel or solid wood handrail. 700k for red bricks and shopping mall type 15mm thick tempered glass handrail. Then buyers can know what they will be getting for the price they pay la.

Y orange villa 1/2 not good???

evon :Y orange villa 1/2 not good???

You go and read all message la, who so free to tell u all.

Actually developer have a chance to build good relation with purchaser but they have miss the chance. Developer choose to ignore and hire proxy to counter real purchaser comment here. But they cannot last long, not all the developer proxy have gone. Left all real purchaser continue pressure and apply anger to developer. Tah Wah, Tah Wah, why? Becos u are new player or you really ego?

So more the developer thought only 1 or 2 purchaser shoot here, actual almost 80% purchaser is very angry to developer. The fast to gain testimony from existing purchaser.

@Janson
stop using multiple names to sabotage this project. dont give ppl the impression that many are angry and you dont represent the buyers of orange villa. how do you know 80% of the buyers are angry. as a buyer i am very angry with you. you are very selfish to say that you buy for own stay and you dont care if the price cannot appreciate. since you are so unhappy you should sell your unit asap when it’s completed and not keep for own say, strange you still plan to stay when you condemn so badly and asked ppl not to buy.

what goes around comes around, you may plan for own stay but who knows you are hit by financial difficulties and need to sell the house then you will regret for what you have done.

Thanks to the pictures with broken sand bricks and lousy hidden workmanship, I think OV price will not go up at all. Once saw the pictures, I won’t consider OV at all. Even though TW later can use cement to cover those bricks.

Quality :
Thanks to the pictures with broken sand bricks and lousy hidden workmanship, I think OV price will not go up at all. Once saw the pictures, I won’t consider OV at all. Even though TW later can use cement to cover those bricks.

did you check other developer’s brickworks? airmas, dnp, ijm, whh, oriental max?

Hope datuk hong awake after seeing the lousy pictures and starting ronda the OV site now to ensure “quality home” to their buyers on tahwah projects that described in latest The Edge property section!

Or he still sleeping ?

@Beh Tahan

Why should I check? It is not my job to check who is worse than who.

@Buyer85
Please post. Let us all see how bad the quality really is.
No point keep harping on the issue without showing any proof.

Come on guys. Every housing project will have issues such as hair line crack on wall, uneven plaster finish, using broken brick, etc… It’s common practice. Every buyers in every project, upon vacant possession, surely will submit a list of defects found during the warranty period. In a nutshell, whether you buy from small name or big name developers, you’ll definitely discovers various defects upon vacant possession.

So guys, please give TW or Orange Villa a break.

p/s: I am not developer’s proxy, just in case someone accuse me of being so.

@Shawn
if you are not a future owner of orange villa pls dont give your comment here. go away lah

how can this lousy developer give broken bricks. we are paying with our hard earn money it’s more than half a million. even the handrail is shaky and lousy, they shold provide stainless steel handrail. we should continue to pressure tah wah

Yes, fully agree. I regret to buy orange villa d.

Shawn :@Buyer85 Please post. Let us all see how bad the quality really is.No point keep harping on the issue without showing any proof.

The defect and lousy workman ship have been shown in the blog, pls check ur self.

angry bird :
how can this lousy developer give broken bricks. we are paying with our hard earn money it’s more than half a million. even the handrail is shaky and lousy, they shold provide stainless steel handrail. we should continue to pressure tah wah

I found your comment quite funny, if you demand for a stainless steel handrail for half a million house then i guess i can asked for a gold hand rail dy for my bungalow unit which i purchased for a million.
Wakakakaka!!!!

Completely not agree. if developer can focus on quality delivery during construction period, guard watch the workmanship and material using by their contractors, then all those defects that u mentioned can be avoidable. Looks like now this developer not fully pay attentions to their worker’s work and material, they leave everything to architect to decide whether the works is acceptable, this is like ‘Tai Chi’ the ‘Shxt work’ out from their hands !!

This kind of altitude sure will dampening the developer’s reputations to their customers. When customers not happy, they will use mutliple ways to shoot developer and alert others potential buyers beware on what they will receive after done of the sales.

Heard that this developer planning to launch Ov2 this week, so just wanted to say here ‘Good Luck” TAH WAH ! i foresee the sales of Ov2 will be bad after so many bad comments posted by genuine buyers here. hehe

Shawn :Come on guys. Every housing project will have issues such as hair line crack on wall, uneven plaster finish, using broken brick, etc… It’s common practice. Every buyers in every project, upon vacant possession, surely will submit a list of defects found during the warranty period. In a nutshell, whether you buy from small name or big name developers, you’ll definitely discovers various defects upon vacant possession.
So guys, please give TW or Orange Villa a break.
p/s: I am not developer’s proxy, just in case someone accuse me of being so.

Completely not agree. if developer can focus on quality delivery during construction period, guard watch the workmanship and material using by their contractors, then all those defects that u mentioned can be avoidable. Looks like now this developer not fully pay attentions to their worker’s work and material, they leave everything to architect to decide whether the works is acceptable, this is like ‘Tai Chi’ the ‘Shxt work’ out from their hands !!

This kind of altitude sure will dampening the developer’s reputations to their customers. When customers not happy, they will use mutliple ways to shoot developer and alert others potential buyers beware on what they will receive after done of the sales.

Heard that this developer planning to launch Ov2 this week, so just wanted to say here ‘Good Luck” TAH WAH ! i foresee the sales of Ov2 will be bad after so many bad comments posted by genuine buyers here. hehe

Penangite :

angry bird :how can this lousy developer give broken bricks. we are paying with our hard earn money it’s more than half a million. even the handrail is shaky and lousy, they shold provide stainless steel handrail. we should continue to pressure tah wah

I found your comment quite funny, if you demand for a stainless steel handrail for half a million house then i guess i can asked for a gold hand rail dy for my bungalow unit which i purchased for a million.Wakakakaka!!!!

Shame to have a same name with u. You message here is meaningless. Consummer right demand better material. Gold rail, you dream laaa ….. wasting time reading ur message.

Valentine :

Shawn :Come on guys. Every housing project will have issues such as hair line crack on wall, uneven plaster finish, using broken brick, etc… It’s common practice. Every buyers in every project, upon vacant possession, surely will submit a list of defects found during the warranty period. In a nutshell, whether you buy from small name or big name developers, you’ll definitely discovers various defects upon vacant possession.So guys, please give TW or Orange Villa a break.p/s: I am not developer’s proxy, just in case someone accuse me of being so.

Completely not agree. if developer can focus on quality delivery during construction period, guard watch the workmanship and material using by their contractors, then all those defects that u mentioned can be avoidable. Looks like now this developer not fully pay attentions to their worker’s work and material, they leave everything to architect to decide whether the works is acceptable, this is like ‘Tai Chi’ the ‘Shxt work’ out from their hands !!
This kind of altitude sure will dampening the developer’s reputations to their customers. When customers not happy, they will use mutliple ways to shoot developer and alert others potential buyers beware on what they will receive after done of the sales.
Heard that this developer planning to launch Ov2 this week, so just wanted to say here ‘Good Luck” TAH WAH ! i foresee the sales of Ov2 will be bad after so many bad comments posted by genuine buyers here. hehe

Fully agreed. Pls stop buying from this developer.

Is a very very stupid for this developer ignore this complaint and warning right before can correct it immediately.
IT WILL COST DOUBLE of the COST if customer trigger on the defect once obtain OC. Imagine need to hack this and that wall and get rectify.
Really dump, need to jaga cost also not like that. Eventually put up double on it.

David :
Is a very very stupid for this developer ignore this complaint and warning right before can correct it immediately.
IT WILL COST DOUBLE of the COST if customer trigger on the defect once obtain OC. Imagine need to hack this and that wall and get rectify.
Really dump, need to jaga cost also not like that. Eventually put up double on it.

I do not think the developer would do the hacking job. The most they do is using silicone to seal the crack. Seal it until end of the warranty period. This is why the developer just ignore the complaint. They are not at the losing end, you see the point…