Mr.Lim :To those sour grapes that cannot even get a unit, please consider again, even central park has already reached 8xxk. Do you know nowadays people prefer staying in Condo compared to Landed already?There are a lot of 5xxk – 7xxk landed, but yes, in teluk kumbar or balik pulau, do you want to stay there?

Wow……. dare to compare Condo vs Landed. Let ask u simple question, If let say the landed beside your current condo selling at the same price which one will you choose?

You r the one Sour Grape but not the others. Pity boy!

The_truth, I hope you understand. Old DST houses in green lane is also priced at around 7xxk-8xxk while condo in central park is selling at 8xxk. How can you explain?

Mr.Lim :The_truth, I hope you understand. Old DST houses in green lane is also priced at around 7xxk-8xxk while condo in central park is selling at 8xxk. How can you explain?

Hmm… interesting topic to discuss. Let share my opinion:-
1.) First come to first, do u able to find a DST (let say standard size 1400sf) in greenlane area which is 200k. That’s why they rather buy for new condo with lower reno cost.

3.) Central park is selling at 8xxK. That’s so called asking price. Please survey around how many transaction being done and how hot is it.

Try to ask your property agent, if a DST in greenlane (well maintain condition) same asking selling price with Central Park, which one will be sold first?

If want to have an even more fair comparison, please compare those “New” Condo & “New” Landed which is located in the same area. Let the market transaction answer your question.

Look like u r newby. Take sometime to learn more.

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Hmm… interesting topic to discuss. Let share my opinion:-
1.) First come to first, do u able to find a DST (let say standard size 1400sf) in greenlane area which is <800k? Timber flooring even sell at 850k onward. Concrete flooring some may ask for 950k or 1mil above depend on the building condition. Please do some homework.

2.) DST in greenland is old building (some even timber flooring) which need min 200k reno. That’s why they rather buy for new condo with lower reno cost.

3.) Central park is selling at 8xxK. That’s so called asking price. Please survey around how many transaction being done and how hot is it.

Try to ask your property agent, if a DST in greenlane (well maintain condition) same asking selling price with Central Park, which one will be sold first?

If want to have an even more fair comparison, please compare those “New” Condo & “New” Landed which is located in the same area. Let the market transaction answer your question.

Look like u r newby. Take sometime to learn more.

The_truth,

1) If you have done your homework, you can try to look around in iProperty and you are still managed to find a lot of DST / SST @ 8xxk written negotiable, you can try to go around and give them a ring for better negotiation.

2) I gave my comment above, mentioned about Old landed property in greenlane

3) Try to look around for property agent, even my friend bought the cheapest at 820k for 26xx sq ft (seems like you haven’t done your survey yet, it’s ok)

4) I’m talking about the demand, not everyone will choose landed when they have option
a) New condominium 8xxk
b) Old landed 8xxk

If you do think that you want to compare New and New, I think the developer of this project did a crazy decision for selling 3-storey terrace 3k sq ft at 890k

Some condo price in certain locations are more expensive than semi-d
and even bungalows.

Haha.. Mrtruth comparing old semid with new condo+facilities. Mr, if you really think 750k can get a good unit semi d in greenlane area pla give me a
ring. I still have 3mil cash which i want to invest. You are dumb enough to give such comment, i had hunted for months before i bought shineville. Yes i found few units 800k+- but do you know the conditions? Lol.. Need to spend alot to touch up lol.. But thats about 5months plus ago.. Now i cant guaranteed you still able to get that price. Maybe got but not good location or without proper roof.. Lol jz kd.. So mrtruth please talk with data. Go and get me some semi d if you really found. I dont mind pay you commision 10k to 20k. I willing to pay rm2mil for 2x semi d. Thanks

Mr Lim & Mr Teoh,
I agreed with both of u. I m a housing agent, so that i know well the property market, 8xxk only can get terrace which is timber flooring in Greenlane, for concrete unit is now 900k++. This project is the cheapest in the current market i ever seen in Penang. This is the truth, but mr.truth couldnt accept it. maybe he is jealous or he cant afford to get one. haha.
All Season Park Autumn Tower is now asking for 400sf++, I m confident this condo able to sell @ at least 700k in the future.

Mr Lim, Mr Teoh & Wilson,

I agreed with u all.
Recently Project :
Straits Garden @ Jelutong
400sf, Rm268,000
600sf, Rm399,000
maintenance fee = $0.25/sf
So how about the price For sub-sale at Shineville park??

Straits Garden @ Jelutong is near to the sewage treatment plant.

@The truth
I wish to buy SST/DST 1650sf, come with this facilities below: Two Lounge, jacuzzi, Lap pool, Wading pool, Recreational path, Gym, Sauna (Male), Sauna (Female), Landscape. garden, Playground, BBQ area, Badminton court, Squash court, Table tennis area, Tennis court, CCTV, 24hour security features, Car card access gated system, Four Lift, Four stairs, Two car Park, Meeting room, Over 30-storey Private Skyscrapper city view. Only pay for 800++k .Pls let know ASAP. Many my friend want to buy, i will pay for u 20% commission, so I waiting for your Good news ok! Thanks very much.

Even nowadays, it’s not that easy to get new launch property from RM3xx per sf onwards liao, market already crazy and now it’s all RM4xx per sf onwards.

Maybe Mr Truth wants to buy property after it’s up to RM5xx per sf, and we already made twice the bucks!

iv got bumi lot… anyone want to buy..i’ll sell once get oc..600k…

AZLAN, 600k too low man, 600k is only 363 per sq ft, now market already 4xx!! don’t spoil the market please!

Haha.. 600k after OC which mean 2 years later. If that time u asking for 700k cash i also will grt from you but i knew it wont happen.

Nowaday every where is launching new projects even subsales are overall RM400/sf++, will be reached RM500/sf++ overall in Penang after 2 years, this is the truth.

Just realized some of the comments have been deleted by Mod, Wilson you are a property agent? Mind to share the current market value in georgetown for apartment or condo?

in current market even very had to get 3xx/sf for condominium, condo in Georgetown like halaman krystal, sri york, summer place, the spring, jelutong & gelugor area like bayswater, symphony park, even LMC like Taman Kheng Tian and Harmony View are all asking at least RM400/sf++, i believe the subsales property price can be hit up to RM500sf by this year end or next beginning of year.

When Shineville Park is completed, this condo with residential concept without commercial, low density(299units only), big living space(1600-1650sf), unit comes with 2-3car park, fully facilities(even Badminton court & tennis court), cheap maintenance fee(around RM200 only), nice town view or kek lok si view, far from traffic noise, located at center of town, short distance to greenlane highway, air itam, farlim, georgetown, greenlane, pulau tikus, nearby commercial center like All Season Place, sunshine farlim, farlim wet market, farlim commercial area, econsave, nearby school like Chung Ling HS, Heng Ee HS, Penang Free School, Convent Greelane, Chung Wah HS. with these all potential benefits cant even sell RM450/sf in 2 years later compare to mostly all condos are selling RM400/sf++ nowsaday for the subsale market & RM450-1k/sf for all the new projects? any comments?

Wilson you have your point and i think you are right, i might consider to stay or maybe for investment, because in the future when my childrens grown up, there are many schools nearby which is i will be free from hassle. wilson, are you planning for your own stay too?

@Mr.Lim
either one, not sure yet, depends my financial status. Maybe sell it off in future and buy landed, just maybe, but i quite like this project, I believe i cant get 1 after i sold it off in future.

ya me too, im afraid after sell it, cannot buy back with such price and build up anymore, which floor is your unit?

Level 22, townview, how about yours?

I took level 30, air itam view

We r neighbour mr.Lim…

Hi Mr.Lim and absolute.
i just found this site and realized i might be the one stay next door to any one of you
i bought level 30 too.. my brother bought level 10. both not for investment. Lucky i got one unit as market price are crazy now for condo.. maybe our penang area are too packed and not much land left lol…

Haha Stephen and Absolute, which side are you guys in? 1,2,3,4,5 or 6,7,8,9,10 side??

i got 4@level 30 as 6,8 n 9 already booked by one of u i think…hahahaha…i already late when go to booked my unit 2nd day of launching…i am newbie on properties…hope all sifu sifu here give some clues to improve my knowledge…thanks in advance..

Wow you buoght the one facing georgetown, more expensive 30k right? i took air itam view because high level liao, 2 facing almost the same wan la. haha planning to do renovation with that money, u plan for ur own stay?

Dono yet..coz now stay at sg.petani 7 years liao so now if move back to pg dono can “kuan si” or not..hahaha..but almost every week go back to penang since my kampung at “tua lo ao”..n i luv pg n my kampung so much…hehehehe

Heard that OHM is going to launch a new project in Tanjung Tokong area, I m quite interested to their projects, anyone got the info?

I registered for the tanjung tokong project 2 yrs back, wait until cannot wait and afraid the price will be pricy so i took up shineville. any news from it yet? i check from the office they say they gonna build terrace and condo, detail info not sure yet

heard that the built up of the tg tokong project will be 2000sf++, i think the price must not below 800k, quite interested, but dono cant afford or not. ==”

So quiet here. Wonder how is the progress of the condo. Autumn tower is so expensive compared to ours!

I heard the progress is up to 5th floor already, I saw some terrace houses built up to 3rd floor, very fast man!

Any update on this project? now subsale market reach what price already?

Current value is 680k according to our list.
But depends on the seller also.

Im interested to purchase, whom shall I contact? Thank you.

What list is it, Ash?

Saw from kwangwah classified last sunday got people advertise 660k 1,650sq ft…

It going for 1mil soon, pls hold your unit.

I target 680k after o/c obtained

Dont forget, it is built on a “special” land! Anyway, you can call for higher than RM680k, Nancy. The deal will be done if there is a buyer come to you and willing to buy it. A seller dare to sell at high price, a buyer willing to buy, then close the deal!

AC, what to worry ah? just a small portion in the middle is affected!

I will consider to let go 888k for sale intermediate unit for this project, msg me.

May someone who knows update us on the construction progress? It has reach what level now?

Our project estimated pricing list. We will keep monitor housing price and do comparison like other Developers as well.

I heard from my friend the construction had reached level 7 already,

now fourseason already Rm430 per sq ft, so estimate market value for each unit of shineville park has already reached RM710k !

Hi, looking for a unit facing town view.
Buying for own stay and looking for serious seller. please email me(win8vin@gmail.com
) the unit#, floor# and price.

Thanks

Our dear Nancy, you are not comparing apple to apple. You have to compare the graveyard land property with graveyard land property and not using the price per sq ft of prime land property and direct multiply with your 1650 sq ft. The smart and lucid buyer will consider the surrounding and the origin of its land before they buy. The developer price it low for a reason. Developer is not stupid, dont you think that they do not want to capture the profit completely if they can? Anyway, nothing is perfect and ideal in this world. All the best to the condo owner be it prime land or graveyard land. End of the day, you will enjoy it in your own special way…

You walk down to the ground floor of All Seasons Park, you have everything from daily groceries to shopping (Giant and All Seasons Place) from restaurants, beauty, entertainment, health and fitness, electricals, beverages, etc outlets + the wet market (about 150-200 meter away). So, the developer price is for so high and there is a reason too, most of the units have also been sold out. So, developer is not a fool! What do you get when you walk down to the ground floor of Shineville Park? No hard feeling ya. Anyway, you still can rely on your two/ four wheels drive to look for food/ shopping. But, the difference is THERE! So, you cannot use the sell price of All Seasons Park to apply to your said property.

@AC
If you say Saw Kit & Century garden,then it’s a graveyard land.
(Opp.Pesta).But these two areas now are selling at Rm 1.3mil.

A/C, I’ve came across and went thru the plan before the developer exhuming the grave, which none of the grave have actually affected the condominium (you can check with komtar) so minus that i have no worries about the land at all, as i’m a potential buyer from shineville park.

what is the main concern of air itam/ farlim people? it’s the lebuhraya thean teik jamming part which shineville park has made its stand as the shortest distance in between the traffic light and shineville, so there shouldn’t be an issue about that.

i’ve double confirmed with the developer about why are they selling so cheap, the main reason is clear, i was told they are the main contractor themselves while four season park is sub-coned to some KL contractor(information from belleview).

from shineville park to four season might be like 500 metres away, i don’t mind taking myself and family down there to shop, atleast shineville park WILL not be congested as four season (4 blocks 8xx units plus commercial), i have real big issue with the traffic.

to be honest, i was comparing shineville and four season before i made my decision to purchase.

and i understand AC, you must be the owner of four season park

Shineville Park on ex graveyard land and All season Park even worst interm of Fengsui facing Parlour, direct facing police station, plenty of graveyard view also graveland long time ago. Both also a big no no and plenty of unit unsold and keep by developer.

I cannot say for everybody, but there’re quite a number of people who like to STAY CLOSE to amenities ( shopping complex, market, school, bridge, major acccess road,disco, major entertainment outlets ), BUT NOT TOO CLOSE, so as to enjoy the peace and serenity of a residential setup.

Search, how do you justify your statement?? look at mount erskine, no graveyard?

yes, shineville is perfect, not too close to amenities but able to reach them in short distance

Nowadays, almost > 50% those new projects sold out for investment purpose. The price market values in Penang very high but there are not many buyer around. This is what i observed now, as i have few units on hand that difficult to find good buyers unless they slash the price low low.

There will be more and more new project launch in Penang soon, no need to worry. And I believe most of them will be for investment purpose too.

@AC

@Search
Normal thing and understandable for them to say if they can’t afford to
buy. Staying in All Seasons Park regardless fengshui also like staying
beside Pasar Malam and worse is the traffic jams in that area.

Well, Reality and Nancy, thanks for sharing. I still believe in the proverbial saying, one men’s meat will be another men’s posion. If everybody has the same thinking, perception and preference, then there will be no rainbow in this world. There are lots of sour grapes out there. All Seasons Place is all tenanted and managed by Belleview. So, those tenants are not the Ah Seng or Ah Hua tenants. Mostly are the nice tenats like Subway, Paparich, Chatime, Fruzz, Shih lin, James Foo, etc (so much yummy and scrumptious food outlets there….) It is good for those who do not want to drive after driving from/to work everyday. So, they can just relax and go shopping down there and makan makan….no traffic pressure after work…so nice!

@AC
Wah, you really a sendiri cakap sendiri syiok ah. At that location only Ah Seng and Ah Hua will visit lah. Somomore a lot of “Huan na kia” at police low cost hostel infront, they will go lepak and makan makan with you. Further more that location is only good to sell “Mangali roti” only lah. You do marketing for third class place/condo like this assuming ppl never see this F&B place before ah. All season place is like a shop lot in Farlim Business centre only lah, is good to have but definately not so rainbow like you say. Don’t eat poison meat, next time go eat “Mangali roti” at your All season place enough lah.Cheers.

AC, you got your point, there will not be any Ah Seng or Ah Hua tenants,

but there will be a lot of Ah Seng, Ah Hua visitors, lepak, shouting when watching football during the night, imagine you can still hear people screaming “goal” during football session. And I do not want to wake up in the middle of the night to shut the windows that could bring me clean and fresh air that put me to sleep.

You are right about the amenities, but staying away (not too far away) can be more peaceful and advantage sometimes.

Hahaha, sound like belleview and OHM is doing deperate sale. Is All season park and Shineville park still have a lot of unsold unit? Anyone can comment?
Last time i visited belleview sales office they still have left over unit for previous 1 or 2 block.
But i don not justified the developer strategies of goreng price and decide not to consider buying. This area also have a lot alot of cons interm of location, the price is not justifiable although its comparable cheap.

I went to belleview’s office before they launch the 3rd block and i was informed that all the units are sold out already and the price had increased for more than 30%, i think all season park owners earn quite handsome profit already. the price will increase after the retails are ready

nowsaday RM500k above property are very hard to sale in subsale, only new property launch ppl will rush in to it, whearas subsale is very slow

Agree. subsale not only slow but damn slow.

wow, hahhaa, suddenly so many weird names came out, its like question and answer by the same person. who says that market is slow for RM500k above property?

new launch for 600-800k are snapped up like hot cakes also

Reality :
I went to belleview’s office before they launch the 3rd block and i was informed that all the units are sold out already and the price had increased for more than 30%, i think all season park owners earn quite handsome profit already. the price will increase after the retails are ready

I don’t think so, even they gain the profit by depending on developer increment of price,
this will eventually affect shineville price positively.

i foreseen in the future, there will be 2 kind of people if they want to buy four season or shineville.

1st) they prefer privacy
2nd) they prefer crowded (in hokkien people say lau juak)

so both of them i think the price will eventually came to a par, or maybe equal?
@Reality

new project launch will have good responce, only on subsale slow lo.

Either you buy it now or you will stay in your own grave after you die.
Don’t come here to condemn All Season Park or Shineville.

No one is condemning , we’re just making assumption about how the price is going to be in the future

Hi, Reality, the price will depreciate in future due to oversupply at that area, probably back to RM200psf.

Property bubble is not something can’t happen, so, the worst impacted area will be Farlim there…..

Air bubble, soap bubbles or property bubble or over supply in that area,
price is not going to drop to RM 200psf.

If you talk about privacy, is a tower of almost 400 units considered privacy? tower and tower comparison, All Seasons place only got 184 units (Spring and Winter) and 220 units (for Summer and Autumn). So, you have to meet 400 units people when you are waiting for the elevator comparing 184 units people. So, which is better?

depreciate to RM200? even the blind knows that you are sour grape man,

check the market supply, this year drops 0.5% of supply if you know.

184 units have 2 lift and

150 units have 2 lift?

Hi

You can deny that the possibility of landslide is there when All Season
place is just by the hillside.

wow? landslide?you mentioned “you can deny” means its not possible right?

Condo at Farlim area hope to subsell 600k ? dream on until you sleep into your own grave too.

Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. If you don’t like Ayer Itam/ Thean Teik/ Farlim, then by all means please go and stay in Batu Feringghi/ Tanjung Tokong where you can get a 5-6 stars standard there. So, you think that 5-6 stars got no Ah Lean/ Ah Hua/ Ah Beng/ Ah Seng? Who cares if the buyers are from these group? As long as they have the money to spend! But, the controlled tenants by Belleview is a fact and all the merchants (tenants) have been carefully selected and planned.

@boo boo
You never know especially the one with graveyard view.

@Reality

Based on the statistic, there will be total 4 block and 808 unit. So it will be equally congested.

Tanjung Tokong no graveyard? mount erskine don’t have ah? aiyoh got also lar, if you stay in silverton or paragon back view, from the far u also can see lah.

the market price is priced at RM4xx per sq ft, i feel its reasonable in penang area.

boo boo, this is freehold, what does it has to do with Farlim? this place is called lebuhraya thean teik, air itam? if you said air itam not possible to sell 600k, then tell me,

why boulevard condominium (o/c obtaining soon), shineville, four season and pine residence are doing good sales??

Yin Chi is more than Yang Chi as apart from graveyard, there is a stream (river) too. Again, river bank is also YIn Chi. Graveyard is graveyard but it is an exhumation type. Just think thorugh in a layman term. If you are styaing happily and peaceful at your existing home and somebody chase you out and force you to move out, what will be your reaction? Will you be happy? Just as simple as that.

@AC
Now you want to tell ppl Batu Feringghi/ Tanjung Tokong got Ah Lean/ Ah Hua/ Ah Beng/ Ah Seng and your All season can control to be no Ah Lean/ Ah Hua/ Ah Beng/ Ah Seng? U sure or not, you speak like a daylight mabuk lah. All season is no different than monkey cage like other low cost flat in farlim lah, they are all in walking distance.

@AC

Refrigerator, shower, bath tub, toilet bow, aircon all also cooling or using water what.. that’s Yin Chi? I think you are kid that affraid to go to pee at night.

I don’t think that farlim this place worth >400psf…. in today’s market… This is developers trick… those “very clever” buyers only fall into their traps… As what we can see, all the new condo and apartments are fully sold off within few days, but all these are white elephant projects. When these projects are completed, i can say that more than 60% of the units are waiting to selling or leasing……. Does penang has high population???? i don’t think so… the condo nowadays are oversupply and yet those speculators are all around, hope that they can earn a large sum of money after completion…. That’s totally self cheating…

people always confuse of new launch and subsale. New launch entry level is low, 10k already can own one unit and relax for 3 years. wheras subsale is today you buy, tommorow u pay 10%, after 3 months have to start installment already, so do you think people will rush in for 600k bo ?

Ah Seng :@ACNow you want to tell ppl Batu Feringghi/ Tanjung Tokong got Ah Lean/ Ah Hua/ Ah Beng/ Ah Seng and your All season can control to be no Ah Lean/ Ah Hua/ Ah Beng/ Ah Seng? U sure or not, you speak like a daylight mabuk lah. All season is no different than monkey cage like other low cost flat in farlim lah, they are all in walking distance.

Ah Seng: PLs read my reply carefully, word by word. I said who cares if the buyers are Ah Hua/ Ah Seng. AS long as they have the $ to spend! SInce when did I say no Ah Hua/ Ah Seng. You are so angry beause your name is Ah Seng. So sorry and I dont mean to be offensive to anybody here.

@GG
Haha, where got speculator?? You only see a lot of nice comment here only mah. Like the one talking “Yin” and “Yan” fellow, telling how good is his All season condo in term of fengshui but ignore his condo is back by mountain and facing Parlour, a lot of Tomb stone also facing to his direction, facing police station, facing road. All this dead stage in fengshui layout yet he tell story about how bad is other. All this condo in lebuh raya thean teik is “LPPL” lah, same neighbour in graveyard land.

All Seasons Park condos are all elevated up from level 9 onwards, Ah Seng. So, there is no “dead stage”. Eh hiau boh? Learn lah…Must be hamble and learn from others. Learning is not a destination, it’s a life long journey.

boo boo :
people always confuse of new launch and subsale. New launch entry level is low, 10k already can own one unit and relax for 3 years. wheras subsale is today you buy, tommorow u pay 10%, after 3 months have to start installment already, so do you think people will rush in for 600k bo ?

you go belleview pay 10k see they give you house or not? hahahaha

@boboo
U are so funny… nowadays where got down payment at 10k already… that was 7 years back when the condo price still stick at 150-200k… Pls lar, 10% is around 40k… do some maths

In Penang, RM600k is no longer as big as last time where it used to be. Nowadays, it is so common and nothing to be shout off. Just a small condo is almost there! So, thouse younster will find it hard to own a condo. they will go for the flat or LC/ LMC Apartment.

Well, I will sign off from here. Let you talk with the rest. Ah Seng ko.

@AC
i agreed with what u said, nowadays having 600k is nothing to be proud of… Buying a condo is not like buying vegetables at market…. condo like all season park selling at >400psf is a ridiculous strategy. Building a so so condo and self claiming ” medium high cost condo”, in a place that is surrounded by “graveyards mountains”and crowded high rise buildings, some more farlim is not famous of ” medium high income residential area”….. by all season park alone that wish to change this area to a high class area, seems to be “a normal bird wants to be phoenix”…. selling at 400psf, i might as well get myself “fierra vista at RM390PSF at final floor, lower density” … Only ” noob” takes up this project..

@shawn
obviously is BL, then boulevard and melody followed by shineville if u choose kek lok si view at higher floor
I just get informed by the developer that some of the terrace house in front of shineville previously was graveyard. They have removed the coffins…. wish those buyers good luck

Too bad. I dont feel good. I will not talk over this page anomore cos it is sooooo unsecure, people can just disguise as you and say about the bad things here. ayoyo…knia tiok wa!

Cool down cool down.
Let’s look it positively, actually both projects are complimenting each other.
One with carefully selected shops, and the other one is just within walking distant. So, the entire area will growth and boom. The houses in both projects will appreciate in price. Be it for investment or for own stay, the neighborhood will become really convenient and good.

It is you cursing yourself indeed! Siapa yang makan cabai, dialah rasa pedas! In hokkien, Lang tee Choe, thnee tee khnua.

@kap siau
I don’t deny that both project will not get appreciated in price…. well,in penang, every property price are rising and there is no history of decrease… The matter is what’s the percentage of increasement, compared to other condo in other place??? i foresee that all season park will stick at 500k-550k after completion… of course the buyers can sell at 800k, 900k , 1mil… the question is, are there any subsale buyers willing to buy from them???? are they many???

let me show you how to use 10k to buy a property base on current developer trick.

Sale price RM400k, developer quote RM450k to snp, so the 10% is 50K, then developer rebate back RM40k to you because it already overquote 50K in snp. end up you only need to pay RM10k to secure the RM400k units. so who say 10k can’t buy a unit ? 5k also can do the trick.

Agree with some of the comment, after completion, the price will be around RM500k, and about RM400psf, and i will foresee, the price will stick many years and may be, until 2020. (like property price stay calm from 1999 till 2008) The property price is far ahead of the income of local people. (if Penang Govt can upgrade the minimum purchase price of foreigner to RM1mil, so, they will not kacau all these middle price property). In such, I really can see the price can’t really shoot up…..

Come and look into it, cemetry or not cemetry, balai polis or not balai polis, school or not school, jam or not jam all fully sold out for four season, boulevard and shineville.

@Ah Tu
Yah, farlim local have high demand for new housing. The environment there is already a norm and no cnncern to the local.
You can see that from this blog the shamefull speculator start to compete for flipping, those ppl should be cursed.

Ah Seng, new housing project in air itam area brings air itam people to the next level.

a lot people staying in flats and they wanted to upgrade but don’t want to leave air itam,

so all these new projects can help them out, by staying in a better living place(freehold)

I agree farlim need more new housing project for the local but not for the speculator.
Don’t be water fish, there will be appreciation of these property in long run. But don’t pay the stupid price to the speculator, they already slash the property appreciation price of genuine owner by 10 year or more. Paying high price to speculator will cause the genuine owner to have negative value asset.

The so called shameful speculator is part and parcel of the housing industry.

It’s true throughout the world, just as there are prostitutes and gamblers since the beginning of time. Some speculators made some quick buck, some got their money stuck in the dark hole, s some even GET BURN when the economy head south.

They take the RISK with their money of course with the assistance of the banks, they never steal or rob, is that so shameful ?

BTW, I’m not a speculator, cos not much money to speculate, and not many banks want to help me. So I’m working with Magnum and Toto very closely now.

Ah Seng, Ah Leng, both of you same person? if yes i’d just answer at once.

Some people they just “tangan gatal” and they can’t keep their money in the bank, they must atleast spend it or somehow. whereever in penang, as long as it’s housing, people will try to make money out of it, some people are undecided, whether for own stay or investment also.

it depends actually, some people might say, four season is filled with investor, or how, but at the end of the day, as long as its in Penang, the demand is always there. try to check around with lawyers or bankers or property agents, they are still living good

Ah Leng is not Ah Seng, Sorry Ah Tu, what is your point ? I don’t get it, btw , I don’t ask for any answer from you. What you say is true to certain extend.

No doubt, me and my friends have units in Boulevard, Four Season and Shineville also, still planning either for own stay or maybe for investment

Good luck to you. When your hands get gatal, u can diversify a bit also in term of location. Don’t put all your eggs into one basket, especilly if the basket is very near to the cemetary. BTW, I’m considering shineville also. People say Yin is Chai.

The reason I have one unit of shineville because of the price, it’s cheap which i can slowly plan for it in the future, i don’t mind about cemetry because usually the dead goes to the feng shui land, so i consider project nearby like BL or four season or shineville as feng shui(good) project

Cheryl ah, don’t be so kampung minded ok?

if u ever been to singapore or hong kong, you should have seen more than that.

people living nearby “ju tua ju ho sey” “the longer they stay , the better they became”

aiyoh if not suitable for living body, those singaporeans or hongkies that stays nearby will not become so “ho sey” already lah

@Ah Tu
You can’t blame them they have never been to H. Kong and S’pore.
Where did you( Cheryl ) learn Fengshui is base on the dead body ?
If the whole area land is to serve the dead, there is no way you can
build houses & condo in this area.

I do not blame them Landslide, just a comparison about this project.

I went to Hk or SG and this is what we seen and saw, and we felt nothing is wrong with that.

sometimes being too kampung minded will brings u nowhere

As long as you feel good, be it All Season, BL, Shineville etc.

Hi everybody, I can see so many funny comments in page. I was stay at in front of Shineville project past 30years with familys, 9years ago i bought a house at greenlane for my business, and now I bought 2 two of terrace Shineville villas, how u ppl thinks..?? Nothings happen to me past 30years…HA Ha Ha……..no (yin) no (yang). I still (Peng Peng Ang Ang) grow up. Don’t thing too much, later become home less ppl…….(Ang Sim lah.., Ti Kong Po Pi Ta Keh Chu Zip Peng Ang). Penang island every place also go ppl like to buy one eh…(Lang Ong To Shi Ong Lia eh Lah, Lang Bo Ong) tinggal many pun sama……Ta Keh Huat Ah!!!!!

@CY Lim
Yes, there are these people will blame anything ranging from Fengshui to
what they see and hear if they didn’t make good.

hahaha CY LIM, i agree with what you said entirely, cheers

Admin, please filter those ghose / graveyard story, like what happened in year 2011. This is old story for Shineville Park. For new comers, you all missed the exited story in 2011.

Why need to worry about the story? A story created at here will end up with just a story, fact will be fact. The property along lebuh raya thean teik wouldn’t be affected by some funny story right? Buyer have their wisdom to judge which is fact, which is story, which story is bait for water fish and most important which story is too share for the benefit of genuine house owner/buyer.

tata :
Why need to worry about the story? A story created at here will end up with just a story, fact will be fact. The property along lebuh raya thean teik wouldn’t be affected by some funny story right? Buyer have their wisdom to judge which is fact, which is story, which story is bait for water fish and most important which story is too share for the benefit of genuine house owner/buyer.

yup, those stories are made by property agents and several sour grape parties which caused a chaos, genuine buyers will not read on those

if you said that lebuhraya thean teik property will get affected, you can check

boulevard(FULLY SOLD)(confirmed with their office O/C will be obtained in 2 months time),

four season(good response)(O/C by next year), retail by august

shineville(left bumi for condo, landed fully sold)(o/c by 2013)

so lets just ignore investors/buy for own stay owner, there are more than 1k purchasers made up their mind for their purchase. So what do you think about the so-called stories?

CY Lim :Hi everybody, I can see so many funny comments in page. I was stay at in front of Shineville project past 30years with familys, 9years ago i bought a house at greenlane for my business, and now I bought 2 two of terrace Shineville villas, how u ppl thinks..?? Nothings happen to me past 30years…HA Ha Ha……..no (yin) no (yang). I still (Peng Peng Ang Ang) grow up. Don’t thing too much, later become home less ppl…….(Ang Sim lah.., Ti Kong Po Pi Ta Keh Chu Zip Peng Ang). Penang island every place also go ppl like to buy one eh…(Lang Ong To Shi Ong Lia eh Lah, Lang Bo Ong) tinggal many pun sama……Ta Keh Huat Ah!!!!!

I agree to you. I went to see quite a lot of condos, along Tg Bungah etc. Its expensive and small and old. When I bought shinville park, it never cross my mind at all about the graveyards and so on… Its a nice and convenient place. It is spacious, 1650 sq ft. That is what I like. Its comparatively cheap. So far, I am glad I bought it and I have no regrets about it.

“Permanent resident” will be there…I worked in Northam tower and there is a permanent resident there. According to the sifu, they will not go away. They will reside at any floor as they like. The are wandering from floor to floor. So, if you are lucky, they will pick your house to be their room. or anyplace in that building itself. They will not go away as this is their permanent land/ house.

Very simple logic only, the answer is don’t buy if you believe and not
giving reason trying to serve as excuse if you don’t have the $$$ or
thinking that it will help in your sales.

Sue :
“Permanent resident” will be there…I worked in Northam tower and there is a permanent resident there. According to the sifu, they will not go away. They will reside at any floor as they like. The are wandering from floor to floor. So, if you are lucky, they will pick your house to be their room. or anyplace in that building itself. They will not go away as this is their permanent land/ house.

Looks like you are the “Permanent Resident” here and you are not welcome to condemn, condemn and condemn if you missed the boat to be a proud SP owner. Good back to your grave and keep you as ss shut.

SHINEVILLE’s name was chosen for a reason!

To know the truth. You must rent & watch the classic movie “THE SHINING ” by Jack Nicholson.

People will buy as long they like it and within their means. Did you do
any research on when,why and how the boss of the project become
a developer ? You must be a busybody doing nothing.

Juno :
SHINEVILLE’s name was chosen for a reason!
To know the truth. You must rent & watch the classic movie “THE SHINING ” by Jack Nicholson.

do you mean everything related to Shine is related to the movie?

that’s a very bad comparison/explanation then

Juno, you so funny.
Even company with “SHINE” or hotel with “SHINE” have relation to this movie ??
bad comparison.

Aston Villa – related to Aston Villa Football Club.
Puncak Terubong “Mi Tong San” – must be for rich people only
HAHA.

:Sue
Wah, you can see the so call “permanent resident” at Northam tower ahh. Then quickly go tell your stories to the Mansion one blog lah.

https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2011/07/prestigious-suites-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-29597

Hahaha Sue, Mansion One is there, just tell it to the purchasers!

Just FYI. For Progressive Payment

10% Sign SPA
20% Ground pilling
35% Concrete on Floor Parcel
45% Wall with Door/Window on Parcel
55% Roof/Celling, electric wiring, plumbing, phone cabling on Parcel
65% Internal/external Plastering on Parcel
70% Sewerage works on Building
75% Drain on Building
80% Road to Building
92.50% Purchaser takes pocession on water and electrical supply
95% Approval to Purchaser on OC
100% Purchaser takes vacant- 6months(2.5%), 18months(2.5%)

Hi any genuine seller wish to let go your unit..?
I want to get a unit for my own stay and prefer those facing city views.
Lvl 10/20/30 preferable and non bumi lot. Looking for price around RM700k to max 800k.
Interested please leave your contact and will give you a call immediately. Before august is the best.

Tommy,

Please leave your contact number here. I believe the owner will contact you if they wish to let go.

Hi agnes,
Thanks for the advise
Found one unit already.. So lucky i met the owner when i was at the developer office.
The owner is a good and friendly lady. I got it around 680k only.. So happy.
Meet u all in 2015 will be moving in asap once OC obtained.

Just noticed this forum

680K… hope i could sell mine with that much too. Thats almost 40% increment liao, somemore during construction wo. Not sure if this is true or not.

mine is facing “Kek Lok Si” . I hope the developer boleh change the design abit, bcoz sunset time very hot lol. Don’t put all glasses la. Also close most of the view facing graveyard.

Also heard the developer mau change the design of the facilities floor, hope they can add more stuff there, like pool/snooker table, mini football table, etc
Owner, what you guys hope to have?

One of the changes made is the back-lane of the 3 storey houses next
to the condo is extremely narrow if you compare to original plan.

The developer is famous with utilization of every inch of the land. Same goes to the Suria Vista. So narrow. Very difficult to move. Tommy, who are you. We do not know while you just claimed that see you all in 2015. I suspect you are not the original buyer. Buyers are not stupid to buy at RM680k? pls dont act! You are just the owner of Shineville and wanted to boost the value there. I would rather go for All Seasons Park with RM680k. Much more convenient and accessible there.

Tommy :
Hi agnes,
Thanks for the advise
Found one unit already.. So lucky i met the owner when i was at the developer office.
The owner is a good and friendly lady. I got it around 680k only.. So happy.
Meet u all in 2015 will be moving in asap once OC obtained.

if you buy at this price as u claimed, u must be using the “dead man note” to buy and burnt it lo.

One thing I dont like the forum here is you can freely used the pseudonym and talk whatever you like. So, it is like all the fake stuffs. No point talking here. I’m going OUT from this forum.

Kenji :
One thing I dont like the forum here is you can freely used the pseudonym and talk whatever you like. So, it is like all the fake stuffs. No point talking here. I’m going OUT from this forum.

Look like you lost in freedom of speech lo

agreed with what u said, kenji… Alot of the owners are here to promote their condo… just think wisely, if Shineville has gone up to say 700k, i would rather buy subsale of fierra vista… or even new project… who so stupid go and get subsale from shineville and somemore next to graveyards….

@ Tommy

Your comment in #136 is so fake . Used car saleman sounds more genuine. Try harder next time. But please make sure at least it sound convincing to yourself first before you post.

Kenji :
The developer is famous with utilization of every inch of the land. Same goes to the Suria Vista. So narrow. Very difficult to move. Tommy, who are you. We do not know while you just claimed that see you all in 2015. I suspect you are not the original buyer. Buyers are not stupid to buy at RM680k? pls dont act! You are just the owner of Shineville and wanted to boost the value there. I would rather go for All Seasons Park with RM680k. Much more convenient and accessible there.

4 seson is way so further inside, somemore so congested, i would rather consider BL / Shineville which is nearer to the road

@kooluk
This is town area and fierra vista is in “kampung” area.Anybody staying in town
area will agree to it.

kooluk :
agreed with what u said, kenji… Alot of the owners are here to promote their condo… just think wisely, if Shineville has gone up to say 700k, i would rather buy subsale of fierra vista… or even new project… who so stupid go and get subsale from shineville and somemore next to graveyards….

hahah why fierra vista? r u the salesman of fierra vista?

I have a unit in 20th floor that I may want to let go once OC obtain. Interested?? Contact me.

Hi Roy, you can spend some money and advertise it on newspaper if you really want to sell your unit.

GOOD location, masuk je Lebuhraya terus sampai. HARGA pun menarik. MUST BUY kalau ada duit lebih.

What is the different between non-bumi lots with bumi lots?

Dear all,

As a newbie and novice in this property field, I am sincerely asking the question about the different or advantage-disadvantage buying a bumi/non bumi lot. I really hope that someone can explain to me the above matter. This avenue is the right place for us to share our knowledge. Thank you.

Thank you very much Ken (admin) for publishing my queries.

To ThinkTwice, life is simple; if you respect others then the others will respect you too reciprocally regardless of their skin colour and religion.

When dealing with people and life, I keep remain myself this 5 words, S.M.I.L.E to everybody.

Many thanks again to Ken (admin).

Ps zaidizakaria=ZAKARIYYA

Hi ZAKARIYYA, Bumi lots is actually units reserved by Developer for bumiputera purchase only, and non-bumi lot is actually open units for all non bumiputra which is not reserved by the developer.

and if you ever heard of bumi lot can be sold to bumi only is only applicable in leasehold projects eg, projects from UDA holdings or semi-government company

i have a lot of bumi friends which bought a lot of freehold houses along Penang which gained handsome profit after O/C obtained eg, the spring, summer place, seri tanjung pinang, i-regency and also zan pavillon.

Mr Tan”and if you ever heard of bumi lot can be sold to bumi only is only applicable in leasehold projects eg, projects from UDA holdings or semi-government company”.

Tqvm Mr Tan. What about leasehold projects from other company, for example The Address by IJM?

Mr Tan”and if you ever heard of bumi lot can be sold to bumi only is only applicable in leasehold projects eg, projects from UDA holdings or semi-government company”.

Tqvm Mr Tan. What about leasehold projects from other company, for example The Address by IJM?

TQVM Mr Tan.

ZAKARIYYA, UDA holdings is semi-government company

Thats a good question. Can bumi lots sold to non bumi for Shineville Park?? Is developer of Shineville park a semi goverment or under UDA holdings??

Sorry?? Shineville park is NOT lease hold. No worries…
How about say IJM lease hold projects??

I saw from newspaper today people selling @ 700k already..

sure bo 700k?

Selling 700k @438/sf still reasonable. Now new condo already selling >500/sf, For example Straits Garden @ Jelutong, Price@ 520/sf onward.

Wonder when OC obtained then how much is the price. ==”

May i know that how is construction process now ?

Good news! boulevard condo 11xx sq ft selling at 440k already! = psf RM400 ! looking forward for good price for shineville!!!

Wow, “Bayswater Phenomenon”!

@Mr Tan
Please stop dreaming Mr. Tan, Shineville price will go till RM1000psf in future okay… Please don’t compare it with lousy boulevard condo…

GooGooJiao :
@Mr Tan
Please stop dreaming Mr. Tan, Shineville price will go till RM1000psf in future okay… Please don’t compare it with lousy boulevard condo…

Yah GooGoo, thats why i said looking forward for good price for shineville,

i know boulevard condo is lousy, lousy condo already 400 persqft!

Hi GooGooJiao,

I’m Blvd owner. I know your “Shineville” is very “high class” condo. Pls don’t attack my “lousy” condo, I also use my hard earn money to buy it.

GooGooJiao :
@Mr Tan
Please stop dreaming Mr. Tan, Shineville price will go till RM1000psf in future okay… Please don’t compare it with lousy boulevard condo…

Please stop dreaming GooGooJiao. RM1000psf, hahaha, unless your Shineville build in Seri Tanjong area la….

Boulevard or Shineville or whatever, all also neighbour ok? together peng peng an an let lebuhraya thean teik ONG and all price increase to RM1000 psf!!

Mr Lim,

Yes, agreed.

Peggy, Boulevard got OC already? if yes congratulations!!

@Mr Lim
Mr Lim, already get CCC, waiting bank to release final amount and then can get the key for house inspection.

Peggy, congratulations to you, now you can enjoy your condo. planning for your own stay or investment?

I passed by shineville yesterday I saw the construction up to 9th floor already!

seems like the developer is giong to claim another 15% from me soon!!!

Only the dead will see the dead.

mojo :
I SEE DEAD PEOPLE!

阴阳眼！Feel sorry for you!

Anyone have any idea whether this projects have any units left? i called up the sales office but they said left bumi units only, not sure true or not…….

Wow.. Just saw the project today. The terrace one also quite fast.
Btw did u guys read newspaper last week? Got ppl selling 720k already.. I wonder how much this condo will be after 2/3 years…

Hi mitchell, this is the current value. Should be more than 800k after 2 years.

Just for sharing
When I was talking this project – ppl laugh at me saying ‘you must be kidding me’. paying more than 480k for a ‘graveyard condo’. it takes me another week to consider before placement of booking. at last with the courage from my neighbour (direct next door) he says ‘die die also must go. you can’t find 500psf is not an issue but for work force to afford this is a long and high commitment. 1100sf -1500sf condo is selling above 550k. it’s a long repayment of more 2500 a month at least. after 500psf wave is gone, 600, 700 and 800 will come and it may above 1000. but to be frank, whatever the future price will be, i will still say tqvm to my neighbour.

Hi no regret
I dont think theres an issue. Frankly, alot of areas are graveyard land last time and alot of ppl cant even rmb that and some ppl just dont know about the history of their lands. Your neighbour are right and i think you should treat him a meal ahaha..

@Carls

@NO Regret

Ppl always want to cheat themselves for happiness. U will lost the smiling faces when ur good bro is looking for u soon……hahaha…….. Not only treat ur neighbor a good meal but don’t forget for those GOOD bro in this coming 7th lunar month. Sing a POPI POPI songs to them will be more credited.

@The_truth

the good brothers will look for people like you

Thetruth..
I sense jealousy here..
You cant afford or late to get one unit?

Lucky I buy two unit one for invest and one own stay。hope the price will same as all season park。ha ha！！

The_truth

Hahaha……. Jealousy guy…….no unit for u Liao.

I called to the marketing office, they said only left bumi unit, want to testing under counter them to get a unit also don’t want. can imagine how good their sales r

Wa… I miss… The price is so reasonable for that area…

@Mr Lim
I think when developer release the bumiputra unit, the release price estimate @400/sf – 650K, So how much of under counter we can pay them ?

some people are daydreaming think they can make huge profit like those in gurney area .. this really lousy bad location and on graveyard land … ayer itam is slum area , got many bad hats
no tourists or mm2h foreigners will ever think of staying there .. even locals dont like the area !

@Ishihara
Are you from Penang ?

If we look at the location: 1. Go to school, you have primary ans secondary school nearby. 2. Market – Ayer Itam wet market is few km away. 3. Shopping. You can go to Giant at 4 season park. 4. Exercise – You can go to ater itam dam. 5. cool whether – you can go to penang hill.
If you familiar with Penang, then you should know this.

有价无市

@Crazy dog

Why in Chinese ?

Hi, can anyone update on the current status of this project? I’m from KL

Project was going well. Shineville Park already build up to 12 floor. Shineville Villas 80% done. (Soon Soon Li Li Huat Tua Chai). My housing agent friend told me, he sold one Shineville Park customer unit (20 floor) RM650k for Singapore ppl. This my update news. I think this is good news for Penang property.

CY Lim, RM650k is not a good price @ RM393 per sq ft, he should wait after O.C. when Four Season completed and 1.3k selling at RM650k+ during subsale, then Shineville can reach RM700k.

I look into the possibility of the price of Shineville will be as the same/better than Four Season because of the full facilities provided and cheap maintenance fees.

Ya, i think so. Now is under contraction and 10% build up. I’m sure over RM750k is anytime for Shineville park after completed. So I don’t worry about the price now. If anyone wish invest or for own stay batter buy now.