If EcoWorld backs out, you think there will be other takers? Ha ha ha

@Getha

It is very likely that EcoWorld will win the tender again, there’s nothing stopping Ecoworld from submitting a proposal again, but of course, this time round, as PDC will be revising the RFP (presumably the RFP would be written to make it easier for the developer to make much more money), the terms in the RFP will be much “better”. Hahaha……so in the end, who wins????

Should we need a golf course? Why not build more houses?

Well, you can’t just build houses without amenities. Don’t forget, the main purpose of batu kawan is to provide an affordable alternative for those who do not wish to pay too much for island properties. In order to attract people to live in batu kawan without the usual negative stigma, you need to give it more amenities, making it a lively modern township, comfortable to live in.

Batu Kawan will always have its negative stigma and inferiority complex for the simple reason – its on the mainland

PDC must make sure what it has planned stay true and the whole Batu Kawan must be build according to master plan, even it takes a bit longer

@getha

So people playing golf at mainland is inferior to people live flat and nothing at island ? What kind of theory is that ?

A tin of cola sell rm1.50 at mainland and rm3 at island , taste same only u pay much more ..is like people pay rm3 to buy a proton at island and buy a lamborgini at mainland

@James
James bro, take it easy to sick and pathetic people lah..he has all the while been like that in every post and comments he made..always soundtrack the topic and come back to his egoistic and island supremacy views..

Like I mentioned that he is surely an inferior man who is having tough time at work, didn’t benefit any from development,be it island or mainland…currently might be jobless and struggling on life that turns him into cynical and visionless man…

Getha, if you need a job next time perhaps you can voice out and I believe I can help out but be prepared that you can only work on mainland ..Haha…And with your character, I’m willing to overpay you abit at RM3K, so be grateful..haha

Batu Kawan together with mainland will always struggle to develop. It is always better to stick to Island based properties which give access to all the latest facilities and entertainment. mainland has nothing to show and will remain status quo for ages to come

@Getha
Haha..Getha..I kinda liking you more and more because you always bring us joys and funs…

Why are you always so ignorant that we have been talking about future development, ROI and cost of living but you keep saying properties on island are the best…You always sidetrack the topic and make no point comments,aren’t you feeling tired ?

Nobody is denying island status as city,just like KL,JB but we are talking about affordability of properties on island while pay isn’t getting any higher.We are talking about investment and ROI when a small village turns to town and city subsequently…

Can you imagine if pay doesnt get higher but properties price is too much higher to afford, then where the most people choose? Only the matter of time that mainland population will exceed 1million and properties prices still within affordable level,e.g.below RM500K while island properties are RM800K and above..Can teenagers afford to buy if you think there is still room to increase to RM 1MILLION, It is time to wake up,Getha

If you are blindly promoting as island supremacist, I can also make comparison with Spore and HK since I am SPR and HK Resident now and sorry to say, island still too lag behind..

So,why don’t you create your own forum to promote island instead of simply ignoring all the topics and keep giving irrelevant views to sidetrack the topic?

You create a island supremacy group surely can attract thousand of supremacists like you to express and make yourselves happy and sipei song ,consider this,It helps your sickness alot..

edisongan :
@Getha
Haha..Getha..I kinda liking you more and more because you always bring us joys and funs…
Why are you always so ignorant that we have been talking about future development, ROI and cost of living but you keep saying properties on island are the best…You always sidetrack the topic and make no point comments,aren’t you feeling tired ?
Nobody is denying island status as city,just like KL,JB but we are talking about affordability of properties on island while pay isn’t getting any higher.We are talking about investment and ROI when a small village turns to town and city subsequently…
Can you imagine if pay doesnt get higher but properties price is too much higher to afford, then where the most people choose? Only the matter of time that mainland population will exceed 1million and properties prices still within affordable level,e.g.below RM500K while island properties are RM800K and above..Can teenagers afford to buy if you think there is still room to increase to RM 1MILLION, It is time to wake up,Getha
If you are blindly promoting as island supremacist, I can also make comparison with Spore and HK since I am SPR and HK Resident now and sorry to say, island still too lag behind..
So,why don’t you create your own forum to promote island instead of simply ignoring all the topics and keep giving irrelevant views to sidetrack the topic?
You create a island supremacy group surely can attract thousand of supremacists like you to express and make yourselves happy and sipei song ,consider this,It helps your sickness alot..

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edisongan :
@Getha
Haha..Getha..I kinda liking you more and more because you always bring us joys and funs…
Why are you always so ignorant that we have been talking about future development, ROI and cost of living but you keep saying properties on island are the best…You always sidetrack the topic and make no point comments,aren’t you feeling tired ?
Nobody is denying island status as city,just like KL,JB but we are talking about affordability of properties on island while pay isn’t getting any higher.We are talking about investment and ROI when a small village turns to town and city subsequently…
Can you imagine if pay doesnt get higher but properties price is too much higher to afford, then where the most people choose? Only the matter of time that mainland population will exceed 1million and properties prices still within affordable level,e.g.below RM500K while island properties are RM800K and above..Can teenagers afford to buy if you think there is still room to increase to RM 1MILLION, It is time to wake up,Getha
If you are blindly promoting as island supremacist, I can also make comparison with Spore and HK since I am SPR and HK Resident now and sorry to say, island still too lag behind..
So,why don’t you create your own forum to promote island instead of simply ignoring all the topics and keep giving irrelevant views to sidetrack the topic?
You create a island supremacy group surely can attract thousand of supremacists like you to express and make yourselves happy and sipei song ,consider this,It helps your sickness alot..

edisongan, no wonder i find ur comments with depth and enjoyed reading your views. SPR here too. lolz

@ko
Haha…In fact, nothing to do with what ID I am holding but more on what kind of views that people here are to share..I am no longer living in S’pore and my PR REP expires in 2019, wonder if by then they still allow me to renew. Haha..I am SPR since 2004..I am now living in HK and have many friends from Penang (island & mainland) who are working in Shenzhen but believe me, they are much better off if compared to Getha..I wonder what Getha has to make him damn arrogant..Perhaps it’s out of his inferiority …

Still, I am a local BM guy and witness BM from nothing till now almost have everything..20 years ago, we could not even find a nice restaurant here, nice bar to hang out, a private hospital, nice shopping mall, nice condos..but now it almost fulfill our needs more than basic needs..But sad to say our properties prices also shot up for DST from RM 120K (1990) to RM 220k (2000) till now RM500k (2016)..But luckily still not as terrible as island, island DST already hit RM 1million above..while pay level is quite stagnant too..

As for our lovely fellow, Getha, he has been provoking many people in different group with his egoistic and visionless opinion so I suggested him to create his own group to merely sing a praise of island loh..since he has no intention of sharing constructive and useful opinion on future state development when people were discussing about how 3rd link (be it undersea tunnel / bridge) could help on congestion and diversify the crowd, he still commented the same, what island properties are the best and first class people living on island while 2nd class on mainland..sort of…Many topics have been sidetracked when comes to Getha’s reply..

Anyway..Already wish him could get a job soon and find a wife so that his life can get back to normal like us..Else..Pity that our society has one more cynical and skeptical man..

Mainland people must be worried since EcoWorld has rescinded their rights to develop Batu Kawan. This is indeed a sign of times to come for the mainland. This sort of thing will never happen to island based projects. Wake up mainlanders! Thou are wrong!

Island jam and pack with idiot motorist , nothing here except you re super rich

@Getha
Hahahah..Once again, you are making funny comment again..Why should we be worried while BK has started from nothing? If there is a golf course, it’s a bonus to BK development. If not, BK still goes with Ikea and resort..Remember, BK has got nothing but a stadium only right now..

Futhermore, be it there is any golf course or not, this will not affect our living..As majority people don’t need a golf course..It’s not abandoned project and not half built..Why worry? Mai Sam Pat lah..Getha..

There will be re-bid though I doubt there will be any takers…Maybe if the land price is going to be lowered more then will attract another investor…

You don’t still get it..Trend of development isn’t like what you blindly harbor but investors will calculate the cost, sellability and affordability to the people there..

BK area will be acting as shelter for most people who cannot afford high property prices..That’s its role to play..

Anyway..Already wish you could get a job soon and find a wife so that your life can get back to normal like us..Else..Pity that our society has one more cynical and skeptical man..

@Tony

It is not true that all islanders are super rich.

But it is a fact that where ever I go in mainland, I smell chicken shit.

Getha, you must know that people start with nothing one has got nothing to lose so will not have any worry where people has got everything then tend to be worried of losing..Losing its advantages, losing its wealth and losing its status…

A saying in Chinese, 30 years river east and 30 years river west, you will never know and understand since you are such as visionless man…When island is getting more saturated and the trend of development will switch over since mainland has more flat land while island has more mountain…

Haiz..I find myself share too much to you already..Do you really understand the meaning of “future development“ ？

Don’t be keyboard worrier and waste too much your time here..Go get a job and find a wife and lead a normal life like us, ok? Be good, Getha..

batu kawan development will not going down la…..its a state goverment project not ecoworld project.. golf course have or no have, people are still eyeing on upcoming design village end of year, aspen ikea, vertu resort, central park…..that is for sure in construction…

@GuLamPa
Gulampa, this is nothing wrong because North side (Tasik Gelugor / Kepala Batas) and South side (Tambun, Jawi, Nibong Tebal) are still a lot of chicken huts…That’s what they do for living..

Where Butterworth and BM area are getting lesser nowadays due to development..
I grew up from Kg.Baru – BM. When I was very little boy, there was prawn/shrimp factory so it’s always smelly…Behind it there was a tyre factory..Can you imagine? But nothing wrong since mainland has been positioned for poultry , agriculture, logistic and industrial development…wasn’t focused on commercial and entertainment at that time..

But by looking at the past 20 years..it really improves a lot …So if we are talking about future development , it surely stands high chance / potential to grow and good for investment while it’s still considered cheap and affordable…Population now has exceeded 800K and in the next 10 years, I foresee will exceed 1 million because I saw many Kulim/SP/Alor Star people slowly move in to BM and BW..

So, if this forum is meant to compare how good and prestigious is island , perhaps you can join your fellow mate Mr.Getha…He has all the says…Haha..

@hehe
Ya loh…Getha does not seem to understand one lah..Too chim for his level to understand lah…”Future development” to him requires high wisdom for him to understand..Don’t tell him upcoming design village end of year, aspen ikea, vertu resort, central park lah…Later he will say even this is true, island is still the best then make us laugh again loh…

He has got nothing helpful, constructive and far-sighted opinion to share one lah…haha

@edisongan

Ohh….all used to be chicken farm is it? No wonder lah, so smelly. That’s understandable. So, by right chicken farm land should be very cheap mah, how come EcoWorld sell their condo so expensive? 805sf for 388k? That is almost RM500psf? More expensive than condos in Bayan Baru and Relau?

@GuLamPa
Haha..I also dunno…this shocks me too..perhaps next month I come back Penang on holiday will pay a visit there to find out how come so expensive..heard that still have many buyers are interested in it..but the condo should be at Simpang Ampat..very close to BM…not really at BK…must find out what their selling points are…Eco is branded maybe..just like Setia or Sunway…

My cousin and aunt from Paya Terubong also said some projects aroundRM350/sqf with super condo finishing and facility still worth investment while island ones mostly hit RM700/sqf and above …

My best friend living in bayan baru – Elit Height also encourage me to buy Elit Height since price drop back a it at around RM660k but I’m still thinking because I wonder how much I can sell if now already cost RM700k…wonder how easy to sell if I target at RM 900k or more…quite tough,right?

Island property price had reach its peak and saturated level, not good for investment already and too high no buyer , because all buyer will think the owner sure earn double already buy at 300k and sell you 600k u sure beh song …so if you rich buy million dollar house better in island and dont care about value etc or buyer

When i saw now the property market trend at island sell their 700sf old flat at 350k and above , i am like vomit blood , because that kind of flat the most i out only 50k value only for me , how come worth until 350k , plus bank interest , i pay 700k for a damn old flat that have no dignity living inside hahaa with web spider

@alex

Agreed ! If you want me buy 350k with such condition i rather stay indonesia and be king there lol

Kawan, RM350k for 700sqf should be condo instead of flat,right? Should be nice and new,shouldn’t it?

Bro, i guess you currently not stay in penang right ? Rm350k already bro now for all flat , some namely mutiara height , desa bestari, many name start with desa this desa that , all flat like building already la , not even can consider a condo, 10% of them at this price maybe got swimming pool but more dirty than longkang air u dare swim ah

Is already reach such pathetic condition price point if you still dont know , go check iproperty and select this price point on island property , you will be shock what i said so damn true !

@Alex
Really?Because previously I got one offer from Tambun Indah developer for one project at Jelotung area( sorry,cannot remember the project name liao) at RM420K with around 650sqf but it is fully renovated and furnished…

It looked nice so if new project can offer such conditions then I guess those are letting go an old run-down flat at RM350k with only 700 sqf will face tough time to sell off…

Yes,you are right..I come back twice a year and each time I came back I will go round viewing nice properties on mainland and island..currently my friend who is working in Shenzhen also wanna sell off his island condo at Gelugor, Oasis project but he expects RM700k for corner unit till now still unable to sell off..another friend got a town house at Batu Mau also unable to sell off at valuation price..seems that Penang most properties are facing 有價無市 this problem hor..

Mainland has no attractions. Ample land and still lots of places to develop. It will be a wrong step to take if you buy properties there! Beware and be wary of mainland projects. Only buy Island properties always!

@Getha

Go get a proper job and find yourself a gf ( though probably failed with this character) and not forget to go back to your doctor on time for consultation…

Your reply has become my bedtime joke already..thank you and good nite,mate..

here come getha….island always the best this and that !!!! haha….

U mean the zaman batu design of tambun indah “condo” at jelutong , omg u gonna go there and personally see the building yourself! Whole 4 block building look exactly the same design and same color , old bad brick look painting , it is build together with low cost houses haha, even that they sell at 1000psf now for this iraqi design building

The tambun indah project at jelutong is call strait garden , it is build together with low cost house just next to it , this condo dont even have guard house , and i pass there everyday jam like hell..the building look terriblely plain with orange dust color , i even thought they haven finish paint lol ….most unit are empty without occupancy , they sell overprice at for such low class “apartment” , i believe 420k for 650sf so small is only at first floor or lower floor , up one floor add 3k to 5k already …..real an eyesore

@tin

U from jelutong ? Ya the building look entirely different from their website and brochure .Their website is grey steel modern look, in reality same orange yellow color with low cost next to it , such a shame

Do not even attempt to dabble in mainland properties. many have done it and have suffered. Better to buy properties (especially landed) on Penang Island….my Island in the Sun forever…..

@Alex
Wah…Luckilly I didn’t go for it…They returned my deposit RM 5K (after deducting the admin fee was RM 4700)…

Well, I thought it’s worth buying at that time after viewing the showroom mah…

Now the actual buildings done construction already? I did not go see anymore since I withdrew..

Thank you for the information..

@ko
Bro, my reply to you wasn’t posted out successfully I guess, it still show “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” haha..Anyway, thank you

Ya overprice and look like building in iraq orange yellow color , the ugliest project in whole island …

Even affordable house look better but need apply from government

One word , if you re not rich in island don hope for any enjoyment in ur living area, for price below 500k expect to got place stay can already , better than sleep road side or under bridge

Else need go poison smoke area nearby factory stay if wan slightly better home environment which high dense as well

Jam , high dense and pack if u re poor is like that in big city

Else buy landed like getha say or buy 700k above property

Habis cerita

@Alex
Haha..Thank you for your sharing man, I still keep the brochure , yeah..it’s called Strait Garden…You guys really pro leh..Just mentioned developer’s name and location you guys can tell the project already…Sipei Keng ar…

Aiyo..Getha is joker only lah..but now kinda getting used to him to keep on repeating the same old story without any fundamental supports..haha..Hope he could recover soon lah..

Seems like at the moment, better keep more cash than investment on properties again..

I am still thinking to go check out Vertu Resort at BK since it’s still cheap or getting one on island, but no idea which I should consider….but my worry is if easy to sell or not when feel like letting go…since some my friends one are stuck and no buyers..

I could not believe getha invited so much of opposite opinions. I believe what he said hold truth. It is basic supply vs demand. Land is the supply. Developer and buyer are demand. Unless there are many convinient links like Kowloon and Hong Kong island, I don’t see many potential Kepong or Setia Alam in mainland in 10 year time. Of course you are eise too to invest now weighing on the value and potential that you foresee but definitely it is a larger bet and of course with greater return if you hit the jackpot. My take, is second bridge is too far a distance. Butterworth would be a better bet. I could be wrong too though.

@jan
Friend, no right or wrong. Atleast this is our opinion exchanges and sharing.
Atleast we will make some example and weigh the pros and cons..Getha is being funny only lah..Keep condemning mainland that’s why he invited so many people against him loh..Blindly one..

My supplier CEO told me, since he already owns 6 properties in China mainland..He said, if you are going for investment, be it mainland or HK, what you care is if it’s going to generate your profit..Same advice goes to Getha lah..My double storey in BM also contribute me ROI up to 150% lah in 10 years time..

So, now people are eyeing on South Seberang Prai, such as BK while it’s still cheap..
And when people were discussing about 3rd link – pros and cons , Getha simply sidetracked the topic to island property again…Walau..伊系来乱A，灾bor…Haha..

But now I kinda liking him coz we need some stimulant here to liven up the forum..haha..If you managed to meet him in person, please do remind him to take his medicine and see the doctor on time ar..haha..

@jan

“I could be wrong too though”??? I say you are dead wrong! Of all the areas in mainland, butterworth will be going down hill for sure. BK would surely be a better bet. It’s a complete new township, new amenities, IKEA, private university etc.

As to mainland better or island better? Well, is charkueyteow tastier or wagyu beef tastier? I enjoy both. The fact is, you can have 200 stalls selling charkueyteow in penang and all the stalls will still do good business. But if you have 200 wagyu beef restaurants, I think 190 will be out of business within 6 months, while the remaining 10 being located in where the customers are will do good business.

Charkueyteow is mass market, while wagyu beef is luxury market. Is it stupid to pay so much for wagyu beef while charkeuyteow cost only 1/10 since I said I enjoy both? Well, in that sense, “luxury market” is always a “stupid” market because you always have to pay much more for things you won’t die without. Then again, ain’t that what makes you feel superior than others?? Surely it’s worth paying every single sen for.

Therefore, there’s no point arguing mainland better or island better, there’s always a market for both.

@jan
If Getha is sincere to show all the pros and cons with the facts and figures found,I believe he is most welcome rather than keep condemning …Sounds like cynical and skeptical pathetic man being left over and forgotten who is trying so hard to draw attention..lol..

5 years ago gt market no value but buyer insist want buy even pay more downpayment due to cheap and high rental can cover installment, nowadays gt value but no market, y? because 80% are investor, investor looking for water fish, but water fish dint buy subsale and invest in new project, so in the end more and more subsale in market, who want be water fish?

Hiyah, Getha is island property agent lah.
So, surely have to condemm mainland lah esp if you all keep promoting mainland, affecting his business and income lah.
You see, Batu Kawan now becomes a new worry for island property owners and agents. Previously was Alma and TI Pearl City.

Penang Island will always be my Island in the Sun. Best place in the world to stay regardless. Therefore, taking cue, buying Island properties is a no brainer. I love you Penang Island!

Pity those working or stay nearby FTZ area, they stay untill 8pm at office to avoid jam even off 5pm, gt home but cant back, best place in the world.

pity :
Pity those working or stay nearby FTZ area, they stay untill 8pm at office to avoid jam even off 5pm, gt home but cant back, best place in the world.

lol why need to stay in the office? so many places to go around

Getha :
Mainland people must be worried since EcoWorld has rescinded their rights to develop Batu Kawan. This is indeed a sign of times to come for the mainland. This sort of thing will never happen to island based projects. Wake up mainlanders! Thou are wrong!

Why mainlanders need to worry? our landed house is increasing its price while the houses in Penang Island got value no buyer

GuLamPa :
@edisongan
Ohh….all used to be chicken farm is it? No wonder lah, so smelly. That’s understandable. So, by right chicken farm land should be very cheap mah, how come EcoWorld sell their condo so expensive? 805sf for 388k? That is almost RM500psf? More expensive than condos in Bayan Baru and Relau?

haha I guess ur are the one that stay in the Chicken farm because we never smell anything. Its fun that u are the one that pointed out this chicken smell

Haha…now we got “Mainland4u” VS Getha…haha…Fighting fighting..

Oh my…

Chicken farm is ulu place , not place like butterworth or bm la bro