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TRI Pinnacle

February 18th, 2014 Leave a comment 中文版

TRI-Pinnacle, affordable homes located at Jalan Persiaran Halia 3, Mount Erskine which will be the first of its kind that create a high quality affordable housing development and help to enhance the surrounding area to provide the residents with a well conceptualized, modern, airy environment to live, relax and work!

Aspen Group is challenging this ground-breaking development that will set a new benchmark in affordable housing scheme in Malaysia, particularly in Penang and scrap away the old perception towards affordable housing.

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Project Name : TRI Pinnacle
Location :
 Tanjung Tokong, Penang
Property Type : Affordable Housing
Built-up Area: 800 sq.ft. onwards
Indicative Price: RM 299,000 onwards
Land Tenure : Freehold
Developer : Aspen Group

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  1. Wake Loh
    September 23rd, 2015 at 00:40 | #1

    Now they are forcing everybody to buy an extra carpark for the non-upgrade units at extra 50k.
    Thats too much for a carpark for an affordable home.

  2. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    September 23rd, 2015 at 07:20 | #2

    @Wake Loh
    Oh really? Haha, that’s not surprising at all.

    Ladies and gentlemen, here you go, the Aspen Group..

  3. SIR
    September 23rd, 2015 at 12:48 | #3

    Amazing Aspen Group! Good job! Well done!

  4. LMC
    September 28th, 2015 at 09:27 | #4

    Any 1 here is putting hope on the LMC for this project? Because once i get married, i will be disqualify to buy LMC already. Please advice. thanks all.

  5. Stone
    September 28th, 2015 at 22:44 | #5

    If an additional carpark is made compulsory at 50K, a complaint in writing should be made to Jbt Perumahan. Aspen is a joker!

  6. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    September 29th, 2015 at 08:44 | #6

    Stone :
    If an additional carpark is made compulsory at 50K, a complaint in writing should be made to Jbt Perumahan. Aspen is a joker!

    Couldn’t agree more with you. So many bad experiences with Aspen.

    I think the balloting for basic (aka 299k unit) is still delayed, pending the so-called “discussion” with the Penang State Govt LOL!

  7. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    September 29th, 2015 at 08:47 | #7

    @LMC
    LMC, I think an LMC home is still a good buy, but I’m not too sure how long you’ll have to wait before you can get shortlisted for a LMC unit.

    Also just go and read many of the not-so-good comments on Aspen on this page, and decide for yourself (and family) if you’re comfortable choosing this developer.

  8. Wake Loh
    September 29th, 2015 at 12:29 | #8

    @penang_kia
    But perumahan already said there is no such “discussions” going on.

  9. SIR
    September 29th, 2015 at 12:49 | #9

    Long live the Aspen Group! Bravo!

  10. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    September 29th, 2015 at 13:15 | #10

    @Wake Loh

    Exactly, as I was one of the many who have called Komtar to ask last time. I can confirm there is no such “discussions” going on as claimed by Aspen Group. Even the lady told me, Perumahan never set anything such as compulsory to get (extra) 2nd car park.

    I think Aspen is now desperately buying more time to try selling more upgraded units (RM399k) due to poor responses overall, thus using this excuse (i.e. ongoing discussion).

  11. Wake Loh
    September 30th, 2015 at 13:20 | #11

    @penang_kia
    I think its more like not having excess unassigned car parks in the building plan although the aspen people did said something about compulsory 2 car parks to me.

    Thats why when i visited them they first asked me if wan get the 399k and keep on pushing the 399k, then told them i will go for 299k. When i asked is it 399k can sign now is it, they say no la, all same la cannot sign la. Mana tau everybody 399k is signing d. What a sham.

  12. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    September 30th, 2015 at 14:25 | #12

    @Wake Loh
    Hmm, that probably explains why (I heard) Aspen requires buyers to sign some news additional documents. Someone did mention something about car park…

    Yes, 399k one – many people signed d. Only 299k one is still being delayed, even though I remember Aspen asking us to respond to their letter, like, 2 months ago LOL!

  13. IamWhoIam
    October 4th, 2015 at 00:18 | #13

    I received an agent proposing me Aspen project. 800sqft, 2 car park, IKEA full reno cost 487k.. was told is a semi affordable unit, located behind The PEAK condo.

  14. Ddd
    October 4th, 2015 at 00:43 | #14

    Me too… Lol, I tot it is a success project? 1st affordable project in Penang. Now need to hire agent to sell? No takers? Failure again like timesquare? I have doubt in batu kawan project too… Everyone “say” that location will boom and attracted a lot of blindly followed investors.

  15. Jaguar
    October 4th, 2015 at 13:42 | #15

    State Goverment is going to open 30% quota to public buyer. So now all affordable developer can sell 30% of their units to public but different price as state impose 60k levy and 5 years can’t sell too. I believe agents is selling this units. This is want happen when eligible purchaser take advantage and demand / ridicule Goverment efforts to make house affordable. You guys continue to ridicule and say nonsense here.. I support this move.

  16. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 4th, 2015 at 20:22 | #16

    IamWhoIam :
    I received an agent proposing me Aspen project. 800sqft, 2 car park, IKEA full reno cost 487k.. was told is a semi affordable unit, located behind The PEAK condo.

    Wow really? Now opening for public sale d?

    Good luck to all those who are still waiting…

  17. Sense
    October 5th, 2015 at 13:09 | #17

    RM610 psf for this stupid affordable apartment? RM610psf called affordable? think about it. still have a lot vacant lands there. Please be cautious!!! must be very cautious to this developer background. Ivory famous for drag ppl money deposit, poor workmanship “the peak”, failure timesquare, not reliable at all, hope they will be better this time.

  18. Jaguar
    October 5th, 2015 at 14:05 | #18

    Is good move at least we know Goverment is responsive! I support the move to open to public as I find this so call eligible purchasers doesnt appreciate government help bcos in the first place they can’t afford but greedy want to buy 300 to 400k houses. My advice buy within your mean instead keep complaining g here

  19. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 5th, 2015 at 14:51 | #19

    Someone’s argument is invalid; we the so-called eligible purchasers DEFINITELY appreciate the Penang State Govt’s help in providing Affordable Homes to us, but certainly not at a price that’s slightly BEYOND our affordability as in the case of Tri Pinnacle. If they know we can’t afford then prices of such homes should instead be offered to us ELIGIBLE buyers at an AFFORDABLE rate.

    Oh wait, if we can’t afford we can always switch to other AH projects or get a property in mainland, and stop complaining and being greedy…

  20. Stone
    October 5th, 2015 at 15:21 | #20

    I also heard that agents are offering a fully renovated unit of a new project next to the Peak at 450K. So this is true now, that Aspen is a joker, some more an unethical one.

  21. yumi
    October 5th, 2015 at 16:46 | #21

    @Stone
    affordable house change to 450k? serious?

  22. Penang
    October 5th, 2015 at 20:16 | #22

    Developer wld delay selling 299k, then complain to State no takers and appeal to open to public! Dirty tactic and only interested to profit more. Those who are eligible and want to buy 299k should go direct to State and ask State to instruct developer to allocate unit.

    High time State to take over the balloting process and ensure that all eligible buyers are not cheated out.

  23. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 5th, 2015 at 22:21 | #23

    @Stone
    Couldn’t agree more.

  24. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 5th, 2015 at 22:30 | #24

    Penang :
    Developer wld delay selling 299k, then complain to State no takers and appeal to open to public! Dirty tactic and only interested to profit more. Those who are eligible and want to buy 299k should go direct to State and ask State to instruct developer to allocate unit.
    High time State to take over the balloting process and ensure that all eligible buyers are not cheated out.

    Yes, exactly what I was thinking!

    I urge those 299k buyers to keep on pressuring Aspen by calling Perumahan and let them know the situation, the news that selected units are being offered by other agents, and that you all have been kept waiting for such a long time without any update. I will join the fight.

  25. Stone
    October 6th, 2015 at 14:57 | #25

    Aspen is also trying to play another trick: to make the 2nd carpark compulsory, again, and therefore the minimum price will be 349K. This is what the guy at their office told me face to face a few weeks ago when I dropped by. He said there is a new rule from the Federal Government to be imposed that will make the 2nd carpark compulsory, but this is not yet confirmed.
    Whatever it will be, it is very clear that they are trying to sell more upgraded packages before releasing the remaining units to 299k buyers.

  26. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 6th, 2015 at 15:23 | #26

    Many have been duped into taking the RM399k package, and now with the public allocated unit priced at >RM460k, all the more reason for them to sell more units for higher profit.

    In the end, take my word, not all RM299k eligible buyers will get a unit when the time for your ballot session comes. So, please do something now! Show Aspen that we are not to be taken for a ride!

  27. Wake Loh
    October 6th, 2015 at 16:20 | #27

    So the 1st Private Affordable Housing in Penang that we are so proud about is a sham. The federal will have something to laugh about.

  28. dicko
    October 6th, 2015 at 16:36 | #28

    @penang_kia

    Well, you should have known by now you cannot count on developers to do the RIGHT thing. The state housing should be the one who protects your welfare. Where are they now? What will they do? Nothing, as usual?? Or even worse, collaborating with greedy developers to squeeze more money out of the rakyat??

  29. stella
    October 6th, 2015 at 17:38 | #29

    1st private affordable housing? I doubt so, saying 1st but delay this delay that. for me i think Ramah should be the 1st private affordable housing in penang.

  30. yumi
    October 6th, 2015 at 17:49 | #30

    ramah on the progress of 10% now..
    should be ok i think..

  31. shocker
    October 6th, 2015 at 18:37 | #31

    another suprise awaiting when you collect your spa from your lawyer…the lawyer will call you to sign a letter of consent to allow the developer to build additional 68 units of LMC…there are 2 copies of the letter of consent…one is to komtar bahagian perumahan if not mistaken and one is to the developer….the interesting part is for the copy to developer, there are few so called clauses….let me briefly share what are the clauses are cause i am not a lawyer and alot of law terms inside….basically if u sign the letter of consent you agree to pay a fee or charges IF THERE IS ANY incured by the authority to the developer regarding somthing called ‘jadual petak'(something to do with car park) falling which to pay the developer within certin time frame, the developer got the rights to charge you interest of 10 percent per annum on daily basis…another clause is if in future you decided to object and make the developer not to get the necessary clearance from the authority to hand over the unit to you, developer have the rights to sue you for damages and also the late handing of unit to you, you are not entitle to claim LAD from the developer….this must be some kind joke from a developer to force the purchaser to sign this kind of thing in order to collect the SPA….word of advise from me BEWARE when you sign something from developer side….. ps: all the info here given i try to be as accurate as possible based from the explanation by the lawyer as demanded by me and also from my own reading on all the clauses(hopefully my english is not that bad to understand the words written there)

  32. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 7th, 2015 at 06:41 | #32

    @shocker
    Thanks a lot for the insight! Now it’s obvious how they are trying to scam us again, this time by asking us to sign these additonal forms. How pathetic!

  33. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 7th, 2015 at 07:09 | #33

    @dicko
    Actually, many of us have also called Perumahan to check, but what Aspen claims is always different from what Perumahan says. Eg Aspen says now 2nd car park is compulsory, but Perumahan said there’s no such thing.

    I now suspect they are going to sell more units to public first before eventually releasing leftover units for 299k buyers. Did I mention that, public buyer gets to make appointment and select nice units, and are guaranteed side-by-side car park, whereas for 399k buyers, allocation of car park is at Aspen’s discretion and also some never got to ballot those nice units as claimed.

    Shame Aspen, shame. High time we raise this to Perumahan, and Mr Jagdeep Singh Deo and the press to show them how and where the Penang Affordable Home model is heading towards.

  34. Sad Buyer
    October 7th, 2015 at 15:18 | #34

    sad news for those waiting to ballot for 299k units. One of my friend just bought a unit for 470 000 and guess what he get to choose the level and unit of his preference. I think the developer will try to sell off as many units as they can before the “left over” units for those 299k applicants to ballot. This project can be considered the 1st project by this so called “new developer” and this is what they do to build their reputation(wish them luck on that). I suggest those 299k applicants to file a petition against this developer to the state government to let them know not to treat us buying affordable houses as 2nd class purchasers. We have to pay for it and we are not getting it for FOC….

  35. We Are Not Stupid
    October 7th, 2015 at 15:30 | #35

    would like to share some info to those 299k buyers…..Do you know why the developer is pushing you all to buy the additional car park compulsory? From what I know, due to the new strata act, all car park allocation have to be done in advance and the owners will know where is their car park location. This new act is to prevent developer from selling their car parks. So by now you all should know why the developer is pushing you all to buy the additional car park. If not the numbers of car park allocated to buyers will not telly with the car parks lots available in the building…
    Just sharing my opinion with you guys…..Thanks…

  36. Genius
    Genius
    October 7th, 2015 at 19:02 | #36

    Lol what a ridiculous project !! Luckily I fast fast reject.. hahaha becos not rich so I get lost lo!!

  37. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 9th, 2015 at 12:44 | #37

    There is a plan to write in and complain to Perumahan & Mr Jagdeep. Please join the LINE group for further info.

  38. Murly
    October 9th, 2015 at 15:14 | #38

    @penang_kia
    Please create a fb page or whatsapp, most of us do not have line…

  39. Depress buyer
    October 9th, 2015 at 18:08 | #39

    @Sad Buyer
    Dear Sad Buyer, I agree with you. Why those developers who have earned a lot still want to do this to us? We are just genuine buyers who work hard to pay for our dream house.

    Sometimes I really wonder why this world is full of darkness and grey area, they have earned a lot but still wanting to earn more. Can we have more nice rich people in this world? Feel so depressed hearing all the tricks by developers. We are human too, even though we are not rich, probably one day we will be rich and treat them nice also right? : (

  40. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 9th, 2015 at 23:00 | #40

    Hi Dato’ @Murly, I think due to privacy concerns, most of us are more comfortable with using LINE app (Whatsapp will reveal our phone no while Facebook will reveal our identity).

    Can you check Google Play Store and see if you can find the LINE app? Once found just click Install. When it’s done, search for the link to join the chat group. Thanks!

  41. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 9th, 2015 at 23:15 | #41

    @Depress buyer, I feel you huhuhu.

    In this materialistic world, money talks. As they say, no money no talk. Sad, but this is reality. Just want to tell you to be optimistic; there are still many bright spots in this world to be uncovered. Not all is lost yet.

    There are still many rich people who remain humble, yet many others have also ben blinded in the pursuit of wealth. This is human nature, being greedy. Just like some (not all) 399k buyers who think they deserve special privileges because they can afford to pay more.

    Yes I do hope one day when you become rich, you will still remember your roots. Most importantly, we must not disregard the welfare of many of the underprivileged. That’s the best we can do in return, in order to make this world a better place, right?

    Cheers! :)

  42. Stone
    October 11th, 2015 at 22:32 | #42

    Thanks, penang_kia. I would like to sign the joint letter of complaint to Jagdeep. Actions need to be taken to protect our rights. I will join the line group later when I change my dinosaur hp to a smart phone :p

  43. Apple
    October 12th, 2015 at 00:08 | #43

    Hi All, I just found that I received a letter from government that I’m entitled to get a unit of Tri Pinaccle. I read the above comments stated that you guys received one letter from government and another letter from Aspen.

    I actually received that letter from government in August and due to i’m away from my house, I got to know today and I didn’t get any letter from AG.

    I’m still out of Malaysia, can someone answer me? Thank you so much!!

    Btw, I just joined the line group with a cute baby’s picture. Pls help to approve me.

  44. Apple
    October 12th, 2015 at 00:10 | #44

    @penang_kia @Apple
    Pls help, appreciated it.

  45. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 12th, 2015 at 00:31 | #45

    @Stone Come and join the fight together! I think we already have the letters ready.

  46. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 12th, 2015 at 00:50 | #46

    @Apple, yes after the first letter from State Govt you should receive the second letter from Aspen themselves. Not too sure about your case as most of us received the first letter earlier this year. Perhaps the letter from Aspen is still on its way? Or maybe it will be delayed or won’t be sent after all? (Since this project is already open to public and based on what we have heard and seen Aspen may now concentrate on selling more units to public buyers first). That’s why we are planning to voice our complaints.

    No approval is needed to join the LINE group. In fact, yes it must be you who just joined the chat group (I can see a new user with a cute baby as the profile picture).

  47. IamWhoIam
    October 12th, 2015 at 15:19 | #47

    @penang_kia
    yes, however, they still asking me if i am penangnites or penang voter or not..i was wondering if it is open to public why there is still requirement?so i am not sure whether the unit that they proposed to me is public 1 or not.anyhow, personally, i think it is a good deal with reno inclusive for own stay.

  48. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 13th, 2015 at 12:15 | #48

    Those who want to join and make complaints against Aspen to our State Govt & Mr Jagdeep are welcome to join the LINE chat group for more info. Someone is sharing the template letters that we can use so we just need to sign them, then pass to Komtar & Mr Jagdeep.

  49. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 13th, 2015 at 12:20 | #49

    Waittoolong :
    line.
    me
    /R/
    ti/
    g/
    WtNLUpDfAn

    Refer above.

  50. Concern
    October 13th, 2015 at 18:24 | #50

    This penang Kia is really got no other work to do ah? He’s twisting and advising wrongly all the affordable home buyers. Don’t trust this guy he just complain and say all kind of nonsense is all the affordable home chats. If you don’t like then don’t buy but don’t keep complain and yet still want to buy. You think the whole world owe you ah? Crazy guy or girl also don’t know. Is all about your own afford-abilities if you can’t afford them don’t buy and say 400k fully furnish is not good and mislead people. Bcos of People like you no one want to even think to do good. One day no developer want to build affordable home then you’ll will know. To all concern buyer make your own decision and don’t be influence by some smart but idiotic advise people who may have other motive.

  51. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 13th, 2015 at 19:30 | #51

    Concern, why you so concerned about my complaint. I am like many people out there who work very hard to provide for our family. We try to feed our children. We work hard daily to earn money to afford a house. So thankful to Jagdeep for making this happen.

    Too lazy to debate with you lah (just like I already quit debating with a few others). At the end of the day, I just hope perumahan will see what kind of developer Aspen is. Not too sure about other developers (think others are surely better) but since I got this offer so of course after wait few yrs d I won’t let go that easy lo. Afford wise, can afford la, just need work a bit harder.

    I know you did not get cheated/affected. But a lot got, so we felt very sad and disappointed. So we just want to fight for our rights. Btw I NEVER forced people to complain. I said “those who wish…”. Pls read carefully. =) So let’s wait and see.

  52. View
    October 13th, 2015 at 20:32 | #52

    How come none eligible buyers can simply get their unit? Some more get agent to sell! I thought this is categorized as affordable house? Change so fast..

  53. Penang
    October 13th, 2015 at 23:58 | #53

    Pg State already announced that they allow developers to open 30% to the non eligible public.

    So if the eligible applicants are still slow in deciding, more units will be open to public. Already rich people are snapping up units from Granito. Now Aspen and soon I-Santorini.

    The developers need to sell fast and with current low acceptance from eligible buyers, decision is made to open the units to help the developers.

  54. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 14th, 2015 at 07:20 | #54

    May I add, many 299k buyers who have applied and got their loans approved for more who knows how many months de, but when we go to Aspen to ask if can ballot now they only said there’s a change in the strata act which someone has pointed out in this forum. Yet, no official news or announcement from our Pg State govt on this

    And to learn that public buyer get to choose unit and level of preference yet many of us are still waiting. Is this justifiable?

  55. Lily Ooi
    October 14th, 2015 at 21:24 | #55

    I saw the Aspen Sales ppl at Tesco Jelutong. Agrressively promoting the 460,000 to the public with a lot of freebies, aircon, kitchen cabinets, furnitures incl bed from Ikea!

    I was appalled & disgusted when the sales person said that those buying Affordable units cannot use the facilities like swimming pool etc etc & the units allocated are facing another building while those buying the 460,000 get to choose the unit with nice view.

    I thought n the advertisement before they open up to the public states that the Affordable Housing offers Condo facilities!!!

    Same thing with I Santorini, the sales ppl are very welcoming to the public who wants to buy

    I think the State Housing Dept shd put a stop on this practice. We are back to square 1

  56. talky
    October 14th, 2015 at 21:54 | #56

    Aspen is quite stupid. They thought they are smart by delaying the balloting for the affordable units and focusing on high value customers. In the end, everybody pissed off and nobody is going to buy their projects!!! Stupid!!

  57. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 14th, 2015 at 22:01 | #57

    Thanks Lily for sharing, so it seems that I am not talking nonsense as some concerned user claimed. Shame right?

    At the end of the day, those buying Affordable units are treated as 2nd class buyers just because we got this offer through the Penang govt, while public buyers are treated like prince/princesses. Just ask around and many who got this offer can tell you their unpleasant experience with Aspen.

    Jagdeep probably thinks the response is bad due to high loan rejection rate (which is somehow true to some extent) that’s why now there’s this new change where 30% of units can be sold to public. However I feel he doesn’t yet realize the dirty tricks developer like Aspen is using behind the scenes.

    I definitely can’t speak for all, but surely most buyers who feel cheated and ignored, thus the onus is on us to report this to Penang State Govt.

  58. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 14th, 2015 at 22:06 | #58

    @talky that’s probably their trick, cos if later very few eligible buyers buy their project then Aspen can have more reasons to force govt to increase the quota for public sale, again. In the end, people like me who complain one will never get a chance to buy a unit there anymore…

  59. money
    October 14th, 2015 at 22:11 | #59

    they will serve public as first class customer can gt nice unit and nice car park lot, like business man only serve rich ppl first, poor ppl always wait.

  60. No name
    October 14th, 2015 at 22:13 | #60

    I would like to hear from the Penang State Govm what is their stands and guidelines for affordable house by private developers. They claimed that they “worked together with private developers” to provide more affordable housing, BY ALLOWING HIGHER DENSITY IN THESE PROJECTS. Now that all developers are allow to sell to open public, should they review the density for each and every single one of these projects.

    I presume all of these projects still waiting for their approval. State govermen has to show to the people of Penang that they are working for people of Penang, not developers of Penang.

  61. Lily Ooi
    October 14th, 2015 at 22:24 | #61

    Pathetic, isnt it?

    I’m definitely other developers will follow suit or doing it now. I agree with you all that the State Govt should know about this.

    Penang_kia, you are right, those who got affordable housing are treated like 2nd class citizens & especially those who choose the basic 300K even the 350K.

  62. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 14th, 2015 at 22:56 | #62

    @NoName I’m interested to know too. I feel all these issues are because the State Govt didn’t really do well in monitoring how the developers are carrying out their work. As I understood the developer will just get the names from State Govt, after which the only thing Perumahan will hear back is whether we applicants accept the units or not.

    And with the recent change I’m afraid developer will be even bolder in marketing and selling their projects to the public. Hence deserving buyers are eventually ignored.

  63. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 14th, 2015 at 23:05 | #63

    Lily thanks again for sharing the same feelings just like many others here. Looks like I am not alone in this anymore. Comforts me to hear similar plights from other buyers.

    It’s just pathetic! But you know what’s equally saddening and disappointing? The selected few who bash and bellitle us, for wanting to raise a complaint. Sometimes I’m just lost for words. I may not be highly educated, but at least I know how and when to stand up for my rights.

  64. Lee
    October 14th, 2015 at 23:53 | #64

    Lucikly I only received government letter but not yet the developer letter. Will reject this project to wait for other project then.

  65. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 15th, 2015 at 00:21 | #65

    Oh btw to the “concerned” user, label me as smart – hmm I can accept la, but don’t label me as idiotic ok? It hurts you know, though anyway I still think my level of intellect is way higher than yours, judging from all your words.

  66. IamWhoIam
    October 15th, 2015 at 00:32 | #66

    @penang_kia
    if these kind of issues keep going on for affordable property, duno will the unit able to deliver on time or not…Example Tri-pinnacle..was told completion date is 2018..since so many uncertainties.

  67. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 15th, 2015 at 08:45 | #67

    @IamWhoIam
    Don’t worry, public buyers are aplenty. So when eligible buyers start to lose hope, then when developers like Aspen will be laughing all the way to their bank for they will be able to pressure State Gomen to relax the quota, hence sell more units to public. Don’t think the schedule will be jeopardised though. Anyway, eventually, who will be the ones on the losing side? Deserving buyers like many of us.

    Honestly I don’t object if Jagdeep wants to open Affordable projects to the public, but, please, he ought to ensure Penangites who are deserving ones are not left behind.

    I don’t think what I’ve said so far (in this forum) is misleading or nonsense, just merely pointing out what’s happening. Those reading should be able judge what was stated.

  68. Ivorysucks
    October 15th, 2015 at 10:18 | #68

    Aspen Group is the reflection of Ivory. An unethical local developer. Never buy from them no matter how cheap is the property

  69. Apple
    October 15th, 2015 at 18:18 | #69

    Those 30% open to public one guaranteed sea view, so those got it thru state gov one have to slow slow wait… I am the victim of lame state gov on affordable housing too, they are not really affordable actually… And why housing price increase so much after 308?! Think yourself…

  70. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 15th, 2015 at 20:04 | #70

    @Apple yea thanks for shaing your experience to prove that I ain’t talking nonsense!

    This meant the developer had already reserved certain, selected units long long long time ago for this purpose (sell to public), yet keep on giving fake promises to potential 399k buyers saying we surely can get this nice sea view. 299k buyers worse. You tell Aspen you want basic package, they said ok not time to ballot yet. Pathetic!

  71. IamWhoIam
    October 16th, 2015 at 00:05 | #71

    @penang_kia
    The agent is trying to sell me affordable unit with public unit price,coz she said swimming pool & other facilities available..if the facilities are limited to public then gone case la if we buy yet cannot use those facilities…hahahah.. And yes, what you said is true. I mean, whoever can post their point of views at here, it is always up to the reader like me to judge by myself whether issit crap or fact or acceptable or not =)

  72. Hermes
    October 16th, 2015 at 09:38 | #72

    Rumours will somehow stop at a wise man. :)

  73. GodComplex
    October 16th, 2015 at 09:44 | #73

    Write long long here = useless.

    Get everyone to write to Perumahan so they know how developers (not limited to Aspen alone) are mistreating buyers. No Perumahan staff will be reading here. None.

    Right now, developers’ strategy is to make (or force) you all to buy it at RM400k. If you all reject, they just complain to Perumahan that affordable projects cannot sell, because rejection rate from buyers is too high. They write in to them, get special approval, and sell it to public openly at RM400k+. In the end, who is losing out? Genuine buyers with hard earned money.

    So what should we do?

    Ask every buyer to take up the basic plan at RM300k and write in to Perumahan about your decision to purchase RM300k package and how sly the developers are.

  74. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 16th, 2015 at 11:31 | #74

    Hermes :
    Rumours will somehow stop at a wise man.

    … while the ignorant remains deluded. :)

    GodComplex :
    Write long long here = useless.
    Get everyone to write to Perumahan so they know how developers (not limited to Aspen alone) are mistreating buyers. No Perumahan staff will be reading here. None.
    Right now, developers’ strategy is to make (or force) you all to buy it at RM400k. If you all reject, they just complain to Perumahan that affordable projects cannot sell, because rejection rate from buyers is too high. They write in to them, get special approval, and sell it to public openly at RM400k+. In the end, who is losing out? Genuine buyers with hard earned money.
    So what should we do?
    Ask every buyer to take up the basic plan at RM300k and write in to Perumahan about your decision to purchase RM300k package and how sly the developers are.

    I find it may not prove much of a point to write so much here, but I hope many others who never or rarely frequented this forum will notice this once they google Tri Pinnacle, and when they start reading everything here, then it may garner enough interest and eventually they will realize something has to be done now (thus not really = useless).

    As mentioned someone in the LINE chat group is sharing some template letters. Thanks to the person for the initiative, a few of us have submitted these letters to the State Govt and also Jagdeep.

    The developers are sly, and for this I felt they should not get away that easily, especially since we are indeed genuine buyers working so hard to purchase home with our hard-earned money. Stand up for what is right!

  75. blaaa
    October 16th, 2015 at 14:28 | #75

    @Lily Ooi
    i think u got it wrong on
    Affordable units cannot use the facilities like swimming pool etc etc & the units allocated are facing another building while those buying the 460,000 get to choose the unit with nice view.

    i think the agent he/she meant was 75k low cost cannot use the facilities.. while block B & C can use on the facilities

  76. Property
    October 16th, 2015 at 14:46 | #76

    @blaaa

    It will be a difficult task to control the usage of facilities in such an environment
    with mixed housing project and too crowded.

  77. Lily Ooi
    October 16th, 2015 at 22:41 | #77

    @blaaa
    But there is no 75K low cost for Tri Pinnacle!
    Maybe the agent was trying hard to give me a good picture of the RM460K units available to the public. But what he did not realise is he is giving wrong info & was discriminating those buying the affordable units
    Try going to Tesco yourself, they have a small kiosk near the ATM machines near the Food Court.
    Pretend you are interested to buy the 460K

  78. know to appriciate
    October 17th, 2015 at 13:38 | #78

    i work as a reporter and recently i got a chance to interview a very high level person in aspen, im not going to say much here about the interview but after listening and seeing the facts i realize people really dont appreciate and see the other side of coins. for a developer who worked very hard and bring about change in penang property market and infact to strategies and worked tirelessly the entire ideas and concept of penang affordable housing scheme to be label like this in this forum by unappreciative buyer is heart breaking. most of you dont know the work behind the scene that aspen has done to bring you a good quality and prime location homes at affordable price. you think the state government do all this for you? then you’re dreaming. for a start even they can follow like other developers now to increase from 87 units per acre to 145 units per acre, their answer was very responsible he simply said, yes we can do that and earn more money but i cant convince myself to build such high density knowing most of owners will live in and stay there as their first home. thus is a night mare to imagine such situation and we decided to stick with a density that is same as high end condo. guys he siad many more things that make aspen truly different and genuine. what we say here is our frustration and stories but look into facts and your eyes will open and you will realize the difference. as fortunate buyers is our responsibility to appreciate the extraordinary efforts by aspen. look into facts and you’ll find aspen indeed working on our interest that the state peoples. know the truth and be responsible buyers

  79. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 18th, 2015 at 00:04 | #79

    Well, for a start, I have read CEO Dato Murly’s interview, the history behind the birth of Aspen, how they’re related to the Football Association of Penang, etc (much more than what you think).

    I am sure most (if not all) of us who are eligible for the Affordable Housing Scheme are genuine buyers who are forever grateful to the State Govt & the many developers who work tirelessly and obscurely behind the scene to provide such homes to Penangites at affordable price. But NO I ain’t dreaming; if not for the Penang govt do you even think any developer would want to come forward and say “Hey, I wish to build a 800 sq ft apartment and sell each below the market price, at RM299K”? If there’s any then I really must bang my head on the table.

    It’s obvious money and profit are always the priorities, but well, can’t really blame them though, as they are business entities. However how much they earn from the sale of these projects is not something buyers would or should care! Developers should be able to work out the affordable home model, profit margin, etc before even agreeing to deliver these homes. If they’re making losses do you think they’ll even want to proceed?

    That said, their initiatives to do something good should not dictate how high we buyers should regard these developers. The main point which you seem to FAIL to see is how we genuine buyers are discriminated! Plenty of posts here in the forum, on Facebook as well as the LINE chat group. Perhaps, if only you’d also spend some time to interview us, to see the other side of the coin… =)

  80. Stone
    October 18th, 2015 at 15:38 | #80

    From the latest letter from Aspen to 299k buyers:

    “…with recent implementation of the new Strata Title Act & Strata Management Act (30th June 2015), additional procedures are necessary and we are required to designate all carparks and obtain approvals from the authorities. This pose an issue as surplus undesignated carparks will be available. The new Acts requires all the carparks to be allocated. We are awaiting a formal reply from the authorities to resolve this matter.

    However, for those intending to take up the Upgrading Package, two (2) carparks will be allocated and hence the undesignated carparks issue will not arise.”

    I don’t understand why they can designate 2 carparks to Upgrading Package buyers now and can’t designate a carpark to Basic Package buyers. Are they indirectly saying that they are making the 2nd carpark compulsory? If this is not the case, then yes, as @penang_kia said, we genuine 299k buyers are DISCRIMINATED.

  81. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 19th, 2015 at 15:36 | #81

    http://mltic.my/realestate/legislation/strata-management-maintenance-and-management-regulations-2015-MY12710.html

  82. 299k
    October 19th, 2015 at 16:43 | #82

    I heard Block C fully sold? Is it true???

  83. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 19th, 2015 at 17:26 | #83

    I just shared a link on the Strata Title Act & Strata Management Act above.

    @Stone
    Someone in the LINE group called Perumahan but was told it’s not compulsory at all to get the 2nd car park, so the officer said he’d follow up with Aspen on this. Not sure if we’d ever hear back from Perumahan on this matter.

    I just think this is how Aspen is desperately trying to push the sale of more 399k units. You are very right Stone; if the 2nd car park is indeed compulsory then allocation shall be able to proceed irrespective of whether it’s for 299k or 399k (in other words, no issues with car park designation shall ever arise). Them sending this letter despite no official announcement on the new Act further corroborates our suspicion!

  84. Penang Lang
    October 19th, 2015 at 20:01 | #84
  85. Penang
    October 22nd, 2015 at 23:54 | #85

    Developer is only profit oriented…no such thing as social give backs! They can always build fewer car parks and just sell at 299k.

  86. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 23rd, 2015 at 00:22 | #86

    Penang :
    Developer is only profit oriented…no such thing as social give backs! They can always build fewer car parks and just sell at 299k.

    Well that is so true! See, if they knew that not all 299K buyer would be able afford to buy the second (extra) car park then why they even planned to build so many lots in the first place?

    Then when response from 299K buyers are poor they complain the take up rate is low, can’t meet quota and so write to Komtar so as to open this project for public sale.

    Saddest part? Some people “agree” that we should be thankful and “appriciate” such dishonest developer! Woah, I really feel deeply, truly sorry for these people, really!

  87. Stone
    October 24th, 2015 at 01:16 | #87

    penang_kia :

    Penang :
    Developer is only profit oriented…no such thing as social give backs! They can always build fewer car parks and just sell at 299k.

    Well that is so true! See, if they knew that not all 299K buyer would be able afford to buy the second (extra) car park then why they even planned to build so many lots in the first place?
    Then when response from 299K buyers are poor they complain the take up rate is low, can’t meet quota and so write to Komtar so as to open this project for public sale.
    Saddest part? Some people “agree” that we should be thankful and “appriciate” such dishonest developer! Woah, I really feel deeply, truly sorry for these people, really!

    Agree! (to use the word used by someone who agrees to know to appreciate :))

  88. Jess
    October 28th, 2015 at 14:10 | #88

    This developer actually made me fill that they are not telling all the true to Public. When i went to their office for registration earlier, i have asked whether they have LMC project or not, the sales person told me no. Last month, my husband called and asked about LMC project, they only told my husband that they have LMC project next to Tri Pinnacle.
    i just rec’d their letter yesterday, mentioned that those who choose RM399k, can do balloting. those who choose the RM299k, have to wait till d carpark issue solve. (tis is my understanding from d letter, hopefully not wrong). If in this case, is not fair to other people who choose RM299k.

  89. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    October 28th, 2015 at 17:31 | #89

    @Jess
    Well, Jess, if you’d read all the comments posted here till today, and also joined the LINE group to listen to others’ experiences, it’s almost certain that Aspen IS NOT an honest developer!

  90. mei fun
    October 31st, 2015 at 14:03 | #90

    penang kia…. why dont you admit youre from another developer firm! absolutely rubbish for someone who give so many negative comments yet still interested or want continue to buy from this developer. she’s really amazing (Penang Kia)

  91. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 1st, 2015 at 00:50 | #91

    @mei fun
    Woah, chill la! The moment you start bashing and accusing others you’ve lost the argument!

    Then again, I thought I should make myself clear that I am not representing other developer nor am I promoting other projects. I’ve been around this forum and in the chat group long enough (ever since getting this offer from Perumahan early this year), so please use that little brain of yours before your mouth (though I’m still inclined to believe that you’re probably a little bit of a slow learner to get the gist of it).

    Please spend some time to read all my (and also others’) previous comments here to know what I/we’ve been through having to deal with this developer. No need for me to reveal my actual identity; I’m not an interesting person one would probably find me to be, but one thing for sure (God knows) I’m an eligible buyer of this Tri Pinnacle project. Unfortunately this forum doesn’t allow me to attach any images, otherwise I’ll post the relevant letters for your attention.

    Having said that, please refrain from making a fool of yourself, although most of the time I do enjoy the fun seeing some ignorant comments here. We’re all adults, learn to think rationally and show some respect where it’s due. :)

  92. mei fun
    November 2nd, 2015 at 13:13 | #92

    penang Kia… youre the greatest women here no one is better as claim from all your comments. the question is if you really gone through hell to deal with developer. why need to proceed? why kept complain and say half truth when you have option not to buy? very simple question isn’t it? as you said im a slow leaner and not as good as you just give us simple and straight forward answers. no need to go around the bush to justify your comments and ask people to go through your comments as were all slower and stupid as you said. pls just answer the question only no need to say anything more! people will know your real intention from this one answer!

  93. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 2nd, 2015 at 18:28 | #93

    @mei fun
    You really indeed are a slow learner as I’ve guessed. What else more do you need me to say?

    I’m indeed an eligible buyer of this project who got undeservingly discriminated and cheated by the developer, and as someone with principles I felt I need to fight for my rights. Is this so hard to understand?

    Please, I ain’t the greatest here. I’m just voicing out my complaints and unfortunately people like you would interpret it otherwise. I also am also like one of the many Penangites out there waiting to buy my first home. So cut the crap please; I shall save my energy and direct it to the right channel. This is an open forum, not a debate room. Not that there’s much point debating with you anyway.

  94. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 2nd, 2015 at 20:03 | #94

    @penang_kia
    Also, I was thinking, why are you bashing me? I thought, “Hey, could this mei fun be from Aspen, or is he/she a genuine buyer like me?”. Then I told myself not to make a fool of myself, and so I didn’t ever type any false accusation here.

    If only there are more comments from other real buyers to justify my claims/comments….. Hold on, are you even in the LINE group? If not, join the group and see what others have to say. Can’t blame you since you said you’re too slow to read and understand the comments here. And by the way I never mention everyone is stupid, please don’t make false accusations again.

  95. Stone
    November 3rd, 2015 at 16:17 | #95

    @mei fun

    Being paranoid won’t justify your baseless accusation that penang_kia is from another developer. Rather, this just raise my doubt that you may be from Aspen.

    Like penang_kia, I am just another “victim” of Aspen’s twists and turns. I have also checked with Perumahan after calling Aspen for latest development of this project. Aspen has always been very secretive and what they gave is different from what Perumahan told me. It is very clear to me that Aspen is hiding something from we the 299k buyers. Now as Aspen has started to offer some units to the public, it is even clearer that Aspen is trying to sell off Upgrading Packages before it finally releases the remaining units to 299k buyers. I won’t call this an act of a genuine and sincere developer of AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

    Remember, this is an AFFORDABLE HOUSING project. The developer has already got a lot of incentives (such as higher plot ratio) for this project. And now they are trying to play some more tricks to earn more. This is a deviation from the intention of the state government’s affordable housing scheme.

  96. Nut
    November 3rd, 2015 at 20:52 | #96

    @stone, @penang kia
    Understand your concern, if you guy think you are victim and aspen is unethical, then don buy the unit. You can save yourself from becoming a victim.

  97. Chua
    November 3rd, 2015 at 23:01 | #97

    My friend got an offer too 138.8k with one car park.. But he don’t know nothing about it. Is this good to get this offer? This project already completed the construction?

  98. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 4th, 2015 at 08:27 | #98

    @Chua
    Hi Chua, I think that is the recently introduced LMC unit (different from the 299k and 399k under Affordable Home category), which should be priced at (standard) 75k if I’m not mistaken. Why are they selling LMC at 138.8k? Does it come with any additional “package”?

    I can’t comment on the construction, not sure if any work has begun yet.

  99. Chua
    November 4th, 2015 at 10:47 | #99

    @penang_kia
    Basic w/o car park is 77K. 138K comes with specification upgrade + one car park.

    based on the google map street view captured last year, one towel was completed. another 2 tower under construction.

  100. Chua
    November 4th, 2015 at 10:47 | #100

    @penang_kia
    Basic w/o car park is 75K. 138K comes with specification upgrade + one car park.

    based on the google map street view captured last year, one towel was completed. another 2 tower under construction.

  101. MA
    November 4th, 2015 at 11:59 | #101

    I got offered the RM 72.5K LMC unit. was wondering what the difference is with normal property? I heard that since it is under state government housing scheme, i can only sell to listed buyers within the next 10 years. Are there any other terms and conditions? Can i rent out the unit?
    Also, the offer letter from Aspen mentioned i need to prepare 10% progress payment within a few days from SPA. does that mean i need to start paying progressive payment immediately?

  102. XYZ
    November 4th, 2015 at 12:32 | #102

    @MA
    My dear friend, the scheme is for people who needs to stay, not for rent. After ten years, you can sell to people who are on the government’s list of qualified people. But I doubt that you can get a good price for it (meaning don’t expect to make big profit).

  103. Ray
    November 5th, 2015 at 11:10 | #103

    In my view point, We just stay in RM300K basic. No matter how the developer sell for RM400k or RM460k. Perhaps this will bring up the market value of this property, mean we are buying the cheaper price.

  104. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 5th, 2015 at 11:51 | #104

    @Chua
    I’m pretty sure NO tower has been completed yet. Did you check the right project, cause there are a couple of other residences nearby that area.

    Anyway, RM75k low cost home marked up to RM138k (with specs upgrade + 1 cp)? It’s been a while since I did Math, but (138-75)/75*100% = 84% increase LOL!

    So much for Low Cost Homes (& Affordable Housing)…

  105. LMC
    November 6th, 2015 at 21:33 | #105

    Hi all, LMC stat distribute? LMC how big?3bedrooms?

  106. pgkia
    November 8th, 2015 at 19:34 | #106

    Ray :
    In my view point, We just stay in RM300K basic. No matter how the developer sell for RM400k or RM460k. Perhaps this will bring up the market value of this property, mean we are buying the cheaper price.

    Agreed with Ray. I can stay the attitude of Aspen staffs to be treated as 2nd class buyer. Because I know that i m paying RM100k or RM160k lesser, which mean higher profit margin to sell next time. :)

  107. Ray
    November 9th, 2015 at 09:45 | #107

    Does anyone know that when can ballot for RM300k? I saw APDL licence is approved published in the newspaper.

  108. Ray
    November 9th, 2015 at 10:12 | #108

    http://www.kwongwah.com.my/?p=43636
    慕里:计划符合房屋部规定
    ASPEN集团首席执行员拿督慕里接受本报记者询及时,证实其集团获批APDL的消息。

    他表示,其集团是于今年3月向中央政府房屋部申请广告准证及发展商执照,并于今年6月获发出执照。

    他表示,其集团的计划符合房屋部规定,即便过程中出现一些小拖延,可是在获取APDL过程中完全没面对任何问题。

    慕里只针对其旗下在白云山的TRI Pinnacle房屋计划,向房屋部申请广告准证及发展商执照,至于公司在峇都加湾的发展计划为商业发展项目,无需申请广告及发展商执照。

    他相信“TRI Pinnacle”是州内少数获发出广告及发展商执照的可负担房屋计划。

    “很多发展商也向我们了解为何唯独其公司获发出此执照,我们只能说或许我们幸运。”

    不过他说,除了其公司,一些本地公司也同样获发出有关执照。

    他同时说,“TRI Pinnacle”计划已完成推土工程现进入打桩阶段,计划相信将如期完成,在计划下将兴建855平方尺售价一律30万令吉的可负担房屋,以及390个售价7万2500令吉的中廉价屋单位。除了ASPEN外,另外一些公司也同样获发出广告准证及发展商执照,包括依恩奥及VISTA等。

  109. Ray
    November 9th, 2015 at 10:13 | #109

    In the newspaper said is 855sqt?

  110. BS
    November 9th, 2015 at 16:13 | #110

    Dont know how is the quality of the house

  111. ProjectArchitect
    ProjectArchitect
    November 10th, 2015 at 06:23 | #111

    Based on my understanding 300k buyer can only sell to people who are in the State’s approved list (people who qualified to buy affordable homes at that given selling time). To qualify one must fulfill some requirements and must be a first house owner. And even that, have to wait min. 10 years before changing hand. 300k buyer have alot of difficulty to flip given that resurgence of affordable homes in the incoming 3 years. The 460k public buyers meanwhile don’t have all these limitations.

  112. LMC
    November 13th, 2015 at 12:11 | #112

    Hi all, any news and details for the LMC unit? Thanks

  113. no_kia
    November 13th, 2015 at 13:43 | #113

    I received letter from Aspen for LMC and went for balloting last weekend already. Maybe you need to go to their office and check it out? Your letter lost is post kua …

  114. MyHome
    November 13th, 2015 at 14:12 | #114

    The whole idea of affordable home and controlled pricing is by the state government and developer is to provide a house/roof for the young generation. However, the perception seems that buyers keep thinking they can choose or buy the best unit (or have chance for the best unit) at the lowest price. What if the development never had a good facing unit? Will you still buy the affordable home? If yes, then there is no problem here right? If no, then you could simply reject the allocated project and get the state to allocate you to another affordable home development with good view right? I think the issue is earlier, all units were open for balloting, then the developers adjust to different grouping, and now with the state levy units, the chances for the normal non-upgraded units have low chance of getting a good view unit. My opinion is that the Developer is doing this with a reason, coordination is important during construction and having random different types of unit category through out the development will bound to have errors. Hence, the division of area/grouping.

  115. JenL
    November 13th, 2015 at 15:08 | #115

    Hi guys. Sigh. After reading so much comments, I feel like setting a tent somewhere. I was with ONE Foresta. But am now looking at some other projects. Everywhere seem so high density. Either that, or there is always always some stupid catch.

  116. Go4mainland
    November 13th, 2015 at 15:13 | #116

    JenL :
    Hi guys. Sigh. After reading so much comments, I feel like setting a tent somewhere. I was with ONE Foresta. But am now looking at some other projects. Everywhere seem so high density. Either that, or there is always always some stupid catch.

    You are right. Nothing is perfect in this world. when there is high density. ppl complaint. but the density is low with high price, complaint.

    So what are those people want. You want something perfect den go somewwhere else.

    Just like landed property in mainland or elsewhere, got foreign workers.

    price cheap, got foreign workers – complaint

    Jesselton, expensive, no foreign workers – complaint.

  117. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 13th, 2015 at 15:51 | #117

    Go4mainland :

    JenL :
    Hi guys. Sigh. After reading so much comments, I feel like setting a tent somewhere. I was with ONE Foresta. But am now looking at some other projects. Everywhere seem so high density. Either that, or there is always always some stupid catch.

    You are right. Nothing is perfect in this world. when there is high density. ppl complaint. but the density is low with high price, complaint.
    So what are those people want. You want something perfect den go somewwhere else.
    Just like landed property in mainland or elsewhere, got foreign workers.
    price cheap, got foreign workers – complaint
    Jesselton, expensive, no foreign workers – complaint.

    You are right; nothing is indeed perfect in this world. Yet, there are some flaws in your comment which I thought I should point out.

    Again, I can’t speak for all, but I am deeply dissatisfied with the way the developer is handling the sale of this project. First, all the misleading info on the packages since early this year. Then came along the many unfulfilled promises during balloting (5 chances to none during balloting, side by side car park promise for 399k buyers). I haven’t even mentioned yet those 299k buyers who are still waiting for who knows how many months; each time we called to check if the time has come for balloting, Aspen would almost always reply the same: “car park issues”, yet when we called Perumahan to enquire there was never such issues. Now public buyers are given priorities and have the privilege to make an appointment and select certain units.

    Is this fair to all eligible buyers who qualify under this Penang Affordable Housing Scheme? Ask yourself…

  118. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 13th, 2015 at 16:32 | #118

    MyHome :
    The whole idea of affordable home and controlled pricing is by the state government and developer is to provide a house/roof for the young generation. However, the perception seems that buyers keep thinking they can choose or buy the best unit (or have chance for the best unit) at the lowest price. What if the development never had a good facing unit? Will you still buy the affordable home? If yes, then there is no problem here right? If no, then you could simply reject the allocated project and get the state to allocate you to another affordable home development with good view right? I think the issue is earlier, all units were open for balloting, then the developers adjust to different grouping, and now with the state levy units, the chances for the normal non-upgraded units have low chance of getting a good view unit. My opinion is that the Developer is doing this with a reason, coordination is important during construction and having random different types of unit category through out the development will bound to have errors. Hence, the division of area/grouping.

    Need your enlightenment; you mentioned “Developer is doing this with a reason”. What reason(s)?

  119. Wayne Rooney
    November 13th, 2015 at 16:33 | #119

    @ProjectArchitect

    I think you are wrong. The units that were opened to the public share the same restrictions with those that are sold at 300k. Even at sub sale stage the units can only be sold to qualified buyers at a price to be determined by the state. In short state consent is needed and not allowed to sell willy nilly unless by that time policies change. As to how much the state will fix the price is anyone’s guess now. Those buyers who actually bought the units opened to the public would not have made a good investment because firstly they are treated no different with those who pay 300k. secondly, when the restriction period is over, the owners of those public units (which consist of 30% of the entire project) have to compete with the other 70% who bought at 300k only. Obviously,those who paid 300k would have had a much better headstart in the market for potential takers

  120. Wayne Rooney
    November 13th, 2015 at 16:34 | #120

    And the restriction period is not 10 years. It is 5 years from the date of vacant possession

  121. Max
    November 13th, 2015 at 18:05 | #121

    @Wayne Rooney

    for affordable house eligible buyers, the 5 years restriction is effective from the date of stamping of SPA

  122. penang lead
    November 13th, 2015 at 18:21 | #122

    wayne rooney…
    youre wrong and dont misled if youre not sure, there is no restriction for public buyer to sell to state list buyers as they already paid additional levy of either 30k for south west district or 60k for north east district. pls get the fact right. don’t simply shoot! im very sure as this come from YB jagdeep and im a lawyer!

  123. MyHome
    November 13th, 2015 at 18:51 | #123

    @penang_kia

    Just an opinion. Probably due to coordination purposes. Let’s put it this way. 36 months to construct & complete for condos. About 35 storeys with about 25 units per floor. Draw a table, 35 high, 25 across and randomise alphabets. Currently about 3 – 5 combinations so A, B, C, D & E. Fill up the table with random combinations, if everyone is given same balloting fairness. Now that the chart is completed, now repeat the process about 20 times since when it come to upgrading and carpark type distribution, coordination to ensure it is done for the correct type will have to be followed. Eg. tiles work one contractor, plaster ceiling one contractor, sanitary fittings one contractor, air cond piping one contractor etc. Before you start the copying of the table, start a timer and time yourself. Upon completion, put this as a benchmark time. Then create a new table, but grouping is used for distribution, maybe all the corners put as A, high floor B, one facing C, another facing D and low floor E? Start the timer then, copy the table 20 times again. Surely you will be able to complete the task faster and with less mistakes. This is just a point of view why they might be doing this. They have got limited time to complete, and construction is more complicated than copying a table. Shortage of material, rainy season, insufficient workforce etc. So many with the number of units in TRI pinnacle exceeding thousand, such grouping is required to coordinate and ensure timely delivery and minimal mistakes. Not sure whether this will be acceptable to you as this is only my opinion.

  124. StateHousingDept
    November 13th, 2015 at 18:56 | #124

    @Wayne Rooney

    Please direct us to your source of information. To my knowledge, those paying the state levy makes the unit a public unit. The restriction is minimised as the condition for purchaser is now limited to only 1 name 1 unit and the buyer have to be a registered voter of Penang. They can only sell 5 years from VP date. Longer than the normal state eligible buyers but are not restricted to the same conditions. They are allowed to sell to the open market and any price agreeable by sub-purchaser as long as sub-purchaser is a registered voter of Penang as well.

  125. penang lead
    November 13th, 2015 at 19:18 | #125

    statehousing,
    sub purchaser no need to be registered penang voter, its totally open market when you sell after the 5 years restriction. the rest you got it correctly.

  126. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 13th, 2015 at 22:46 | #126

    MyHome :
    @penang_kia
    Just an opinion. Probably due to coordination purposes. Let’s put it this way. 36 months to construct & complete for condos. About 35 storeys with about 25 units per floor. Draw a table, 35 high, 25 across and randomise alphabets. Currently about 3 – 5 combinations so A, B, C, D & E. Fill up the table with random combinations, if everyone is given same balloting fairness. Now that the chart is completed, now repeat the process about 20 times since when it come to upgrading and carpark type distribution, coordination to ensure it is done for the correct type will have to be followed. Eg. tiles work one contractor, plaster ceiling one contractor, sanitary fittings one contractor, air cond piping one contractor etc. Before you start the copying of the table, start a timer and time yourself. Upon completion, put this as a benchmark time. Then create a new table, but grouping is used for distribution, maybe all the corners put as A, high floor B, one facing C, another facing D and low floor E? Start the timer then, copy the table 20 times again. Surely you will be able to complete the task faster and with less mistakes. This is just a point of view why they might be doing this. They have got limited time to complete, and construction is more complicated than copying a table. Shortage of material, rainy season, insufficient workforce etc. So many with the number of units in TRI pinnacle exceeding thousand, such grouping is required to coordinate and ensure timely delivery and minimal mistakes. Not sure whether this will be acceptable to you as this is only my opinion.

    WOW, I read all these for the third time and still can’t quite understand what you’re trying to explain here. You must be studying Combinatorics or some kind of further Mathematics. Mind giving one more shot to explain in layman’s term?

    All I can probably guess (using your example) instead is that Aspen is just gonna build all basic, empty units first, meaning there wouldn’t be such complicated distribution that you were stating. That’s why I heard 399k buyers can only get theirs 6 months later than basic ones; that 6 months are the buffer for Aspen to accessorise and furnish selected units of upgraded specs.

  127. penang lead
    November 14th, 2015 at 13:31 | #127

    i think most of us here understand where this penang kia is trying to get. there is no such thing 399k buyers get ccc or keys after 6 months or aspen going to build all empty units first. only idiot will do / suggest that. remember 299k units does come with standard finishes too and its not empty like you said. if you can post facts with verified information i think most if us can appreciate and respect you but you have continuously bashed the developer with allegations that can be easily verified if you talk to them. to certain extend “myhome” your explanations is correct but is too complicated to understand (sorry ya). but in the nutshell all different type of units will be allocated systematical based on spec and choice to avoid problems and post completion nuisance to buyers who already did all their upgrading during construction stage so this batch of buyers can leave peacefully where all the units in their level need not to go through massive or major reno and they cam move in almost immediately after ccc. after all this project is meant for genuine home occupier rather than speculators. my 2cent thoughts if youre sincerely want to buy get all details and information from developers and asses yourself. some people tend to twist everything and deny good chances for genuine buyers.

  128. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 14th, 2015 at 19:18 | #128

    penang lead :
    … there is no such thing 399k buyers get ccc or keys after 6 months or aspen going to build all empty units first. only idiot will do / suggest that …

    Haha no need to infer I am an idiot la. You probably have poor eyesight to have missed what I stated as just a mere guess since I don’t quite get what MyHome has perfectly explained. Of course 299k units are not gonna be empty DUH! You can’t even comprehend a simple statement, again can’t blame you as maybe my example is a poor guess.

    In the end, agreed with you that it’s best for eligible buyers to contact Aspen directly for first-hand information. Afterall who would think that there would be people dumb enough to trust all the comments posted online here (maybe you)? Still these are all real experiences that we had gone through. Up to readers to judge and justify what was posted and see for themselves if they’re also going through the same.

  129. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 14th, 2015 at 19:24 | #129

    I have to apologize as my statement was flawed when I mentioned “399k buyers would get theirs 6 months later than basic buyers”. I had actually wanted to state that the SPA for 399k buyers states 36+6 while basic one 36. So disregard the wrong comment I posted previously.

  130. Penang lead
    November 14th, 2015 at 22:16 | #130

    Penang Kia,
    How do you know 399k buyer is 36+6 and 299k is 36? Have you signed your SPA? Again pls pls don’t mislead everyone from what I know everyone will sign at 42months as per their APDL approval. Go to their office and see the display for yourself. Don’t be a keyboard warrior! To you it might be a joke and fun but for people like me is lifetime saving and investments. My post here doesn’t laugh at anyone or being sacarstic like your replies to others who questions your statement but I merely stating REAL facts! And correct your ridiculous comments on others

  131. ProjectArchitect
    ProjectArchitect
    November 14th, 2015 at 23:39 | #131

    @penang lead
    @StateHousingDept

    Agree. In other words, the 60k levy which is paid to the state gov removes the said restrictions during sub-sale. Speculators who find potentials in affordable homes is entering this market. Granito, RP, Tripinaccle, i-santorini alike.

    For tripinaccle, since the public buyer is able to choose their unit (seaview/high floor), the extra 60k could be viable for them to flip. The price during sub-sale will inevitably be marked up by those public buyer. With this, 299k and 399k buyers can enjoy a higher profit margin, if they manage to sell their units to state-listed affordable buyer at that time. I see it as win-win situation for all buyers.

  132. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 15th, 2015 at 00:09 | #132

    @Penang lead
    For every comment to which I replied, it’s because I have to stand up for what I said which some people here interpret otherwise. Unfortunately some people were also rude, but I try not to be like them. I’m pretty amazed that you actually realize I was being sarcastic; well I have to say sarcasm is at least better than trying to label others as idiots, asking others to slap themselves in the face etc.

    How do I know it’s 36+6 vs 36? Well Aspen told me that many months ago when I enquired upon receiving their letter. Not misleading anyone; if you feel what I said was questionable, just CALL them and ASK for yourself.

    Then labelling me keyboard warrior.. and saying your post doesn’t laugh at anyone or being sarcastic. Yeah I get it; so “only idiots will do / suggest that” wasn’t really an attack afterall.. My bad.

  133. MA
    November 15th, 2015 at 08:46 | #133

    Do LMC house buyers need to sign the PN1 form?

  134. penang_lang
    November 15th, 2015 at 09:14 | #134

    @penang_kia

    Reading your comments bashing the developers makes me wonder why still want to buy this property. If don’t trust the developer, then don’t buy la. Problem solve right? There are other Housing you can choose where the developers are better than Aspen. e.g. Eco World, IJM, E&O etc…

  135. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 15th, 2015 at 10:36 | #135

    @penang_lang
    Oh ya cause I never realized that developers like Eco World, E&O offers AFFORDABLE homes too. Wow I really die die must request Perumahan to help me change to these obviously better developers (even you mentioned the word BETTER, what an irony!). So when people like me are discriminated and unjustly treated, then we voice our complaints, this is akin to “bashing the developer”? OK..

    Also suddenly so so many new users sprung up to somehow rebut me (with username as penang_ something..); makes me wonder suddenly question a lot of things. Let’s set things straight; if you are an not an eligible buyer, you are out of the discussion – can comment but don’t criticize us who are wronged. However if you are eligible, see for yourself if all these complaints in this forum (not only by me alone) are true or not by checking with Aspen themselves. I have been following this project closely since getting the offer, and so stand corrected on what I’ve mentioned till now!

  136. Penang lead
    November 15th, 2015 at 14:25 | #136

    @Penang Kia..
    Something for thoughts,
    Successful people: read everyday, talk about ideas, compliment, embrace changes, forgive others, learn constantly, accept responsibility for their failures, have a sense of gratitude, set goals and develop plans, set a budget to safe money and invest wisely not emotionally.

    Unsuccessful people: watch tv or computer everyday, talk about people/others, complain/criticize, fear changes, hold grudges, are know-it-alls, blame others for their failures, have a sense of entitlement, never set goal just wing it. Never set a budget, spend money rashly/emotionally thinking they’re know it all.

    Source: www.DanMeyer.org

    Can you see the obvious message? Take time and reflect the realities. I use to be like you and decided to change and focus on importance factors in my life.

  137. MA
    November 15th, 2015 at 23:30 | #137

    Anyone here sign SPA yet? I was informed that we need to sign a declaration before signing the SPA. Can someone tell me what the declaration says?

  138. Penang lead
    November 15th, 2015 at 23:40 | #138

    @Penang Kia..
    Something for thoughts,
    Successful people: read everyday, talk about ideas, compliment, embrace changes, forgive others, learn constantly, accept responsibility for their failures, have a sense of gratitude, set goals and develop plans, set a budget to safe money and invest wisely not emotionally.
    Unsuccessful people: watch tv or computer everyday, talk about people/others, complain/criticize, fear changes, hold grudges, are know-it-alls, blame others for their failures, have a sense of entitlement, never set goal just wing it. Never set a budget, spend money rashly/emotionally thinking they’re know it all.
    Source: www.DanMeyer.org
    Can you see the obvious message? Take time and reflect the realities. I use to be like you and decided to change and focus on importance factors in my life.

  139. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 16th, 2015 at 12:13 | #139

    @penang_kia
    Thanks for the obvious message, appreciate it! I am human and so not a perfect being; to err is human, to forgive divine. I may not exhibit all the traits which you listed of unsuccessful people, but neither do I possess all of those of successful ones. I used to be someone hot-headed and lose my temper pretty easily, but some events in my life has now made me change to the person I am today. I’ve learnt to be patient and be nice to others so long as people don’t step on my tail or insult me unwarrantedly.

    Reality bites no? Peace!

    *watching tv or computer everyday may not necessarily mean one is unsuccessful; children/adults can learn a new topic/language through certain educational channels/dramas, and in the age of technology, computer can be a powerful tool if used appropriately, eg running online business, keeping updated with latest news/stock markets, etc.

  140. penang lead
    November 16th, 2015 at 13:04 | #140

    @penang_kia
    Peace….nice chatting with you though, hope we can be neighbors at tripinnacle. talk to the developers im sure theyll able to overcome your frustration i had good experience with them on my purchase. if any aspen staff is reading the chats here, pls engage all buyers like how you engaged with me and many other satisfied buyers as seen in your office when i signed the spa

  141. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 16th, 2015 at 14:12 | #141

    @penang lead vs @Penang lead

    Same person or is some impersonator at play? One with cap and the other without.. Or just another user disguised all the while, under the same namesake as original “Penang lead” I’ve been replying to?

    Anyway thanks again, hope things will work out for the best as I am also still waiting to own a home under this Affordable scheme by our state government.

  142. penang lead
    November 16th, 2015 at 20:49 | #142

    @penang_kia
    dont be paranoid, is the same person not sure why some comments were without cap.

  143. kayabun
    November 17th, 2015 at 07:53 | #143

    It’s interesting reading all the comments here. I don’t know what the fuss is all about. But it does look like something is not right when I see those salesmen hawking tripinnacle units at shopping malls. They are everywhere, no matter which mall you go to.

    I sill remember Aspen announcing to the world just last year before the official launching of this project that there’s already more than 10 thousand people registered for this project. But today so many months after the official launch, there seems to be quite a number of units left unsold, for a project that consists not more than 1000 units. So what happened to all those registrants? Loan rejected? 10000 applicants with loans rejected for a 300k home? Gosh! People in penang must be financially in a bad shape! Or they just register for fun? Or you have phantom registrants?

  144. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 17th, 2015 at 23:22 | #144

    @kayabun
    Interesting right? May I offer an opinion (just an OPINION and NOT real facts, in case I got bashed), it’s one big fake publicity to hoodwink the public into believing that the responses to their projects were overwhelming? Reading the recent news, the Aspen MD seemed like a person who really knows how to “talk”.

  145. MyHome
    November 18th, 2015 at 14:49 | #145

    Sorry if my English broken you don have to be sarcastic. Just sharing my thoughts. I don’t know how to phrase it in a simpler way. Just saying it is easier, simpler and more efficient to coordinate repeated processes when it is area specific rather than random? Same like when you hire someone to renovate your whole house. The heavy works will come in first, followed by wet works, the electrical works, wood works then ID. Specifically in this order cause if you do ID first, wet works and heavy works will damage your ID works. In case my terms confuse you, heavy works is like hacking and dismantling, wet works is like cement and plastering, electrical is wiring and power points, wood works is carpentry related things and ID is like wall paper. So, I believe construction handle things the same way.

  146. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 18th, 2015 at 20:46 | #146

    @MyHome
    No I never laughed at you at all! What made you think I did?

    Anyway I think I got some idea through your latest explanation (and also after rereading your previous one). Then again buyers do not care how these are coordinated. Aspen is the one building the property and they should know better!

  147. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 18th, 2015 at 21:22 | #147

    MA :
    Anyone here sign SPA yet? I was informed that we need to sign a declaration before signing the SPA. Can someone tell me what the declaration says?

    A few letters to sign: the declaration “that we on our own free will and volition irrevocably and unconditionally consent to any amendments alterations and/or revisions made or to be made by the Developer to:-” (*here onwards I give brief details)
    (i) building plans; increasing LMC aka Block A by an extra 68 units;
    (ii) layout of common property and/or car park spaces;
    (iii) schedule of parcels, plans, legend, formula for assigning share unit etc

    The SURPRISE:
    We “agree and undertake as follows”:
    (i) I/We shall EXECUTE ADDITIONAL forms or letters or docs as shall be required or requested …. within 7 days …. in the event Developer or relevant authorities require any further consent or request that this letter be in a different form;
    (ii) I/We shall within 14 days from date of written notice from Developer PAY Developer all such charges and costs and expenses in respect of the Property including without limitation any administrative charges and/or costs for accesorizing any additional car parking bay and/or store room …. failing which I/we agree that an INTEREST to be calculated at the rate of 10 p.a. on day to day basis shall be imposed on unpaid amount from date next after the said 14 days’ period until date of actual payment;
    (iii) I/We shall not take any action or proceedings or pursue any claims whatsoever and howsoever against the Developer;
    (iv) I/We shall indemnify and keep Developer fully and effectually IMDEMNIFIED against all losses damages liabilities costs expenses claims demands fees charges penalties fines actions suits prosecutions and/or proceedings incurred by and/or brought against the Developer ….

    Wow I actually almost typed everything!

  148. Real penang Kia (proud to be penangite)
    November 19th, 2015 at 01:23 | #148

    @penang_kia
    I’m very disappointed with you, after all you still can simply blame aspen/developers for everything. I think you’re such a hypocrite, you’re in every forum bashing aspen.im convinced you’re from their competitor or you seriously need help. Just stop your nonsense and don’t buy. If any aspen staff here pls find out who’s this person and don’t sell your home to him/her. We don’t want this kind of Neighbour in Tri pinacle. I beg you Aspen not this person as he or she is extremely dangerous for society. I can say this bcos I already buy your property and a stakeholder! This person is just pure nonsense and no right to say anything. Don’t buy and don’t sell!

  149. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 19th, 2015 at 09:30 | #149

    @Real penang Kia (proud to be penangite)
    Well first your username itself says a lot; that you’re targeting & bashing me just like a couple of others here who are disguising under your original usernames registered when you join this forum, so look who’s the nonsense here. Next, you don’t have to be disappointed with me cause you’re in no way related to me, not that I want to be related to you anyway.

    Wow I’m really surprised you actually took the time to check then falsely claim that I’m either from other developer or need help, in EVERY FORUM, bashing Aspen? Seriously? Mind pointing out which other forums, and also let me know which developer I supposedly came from, cause the only one I joined is this penangpropertytalk.

    Dangerous to society? You really need to learn to be critical in your argument. And wow asking Aspen staff to find out who I am? I really wish Aspen staff can also help me uncover who the “Real penang Kia” is too, just like many others like “penang lead”, “Penang lead”, “penang_lang” and “penang_boy”, cause as far as I’m aware, my username is the first to have the word penang as prefix. Then again, name-calling is a despicable act which a proud penangite just resorted to.

  150. HarryKhan
    November 19th, 2015 at 11:44 | #150

    @penang_kia

    Is this your first time buying a property in Penang?

  151. MyHome
    November 20th, 2015 at 12:14 | #151

    Real penang Kia (proud to be penangite) :
    @penang_kia
    I’m very disappointed with you, after all you still can simply blame aspen/developers for everything. I think you’re such a hypocrite, you’re in every forum bashing aspen.im convinced you’re from their competitor or you seriously need help. Just stop your nonsense and don’t buy. If any aspen staff here pls find out who’s this person and don’t sell your home to him/her. We don’t want this kind of Neighbour in Tri pinacle. I beg you Aspen not this person as he or she is extremely dangerous for society. I can say this bcos I already buy your property and a stakeholder! This person is just pure nonsense and no right to say anything. Don’t buy and don’t sell!

    I actually quite agree with you, i did came across seeing Penang_Kia bashing aspen when i was reading other project comment as well, i seriously believe this guy is suffering some sort of psychological / mental disorder. I think he just wanna get the attention, or perhaps trying to be famous, this type of person are normally a lower class people in society, lack of confidence, low self-esteem, whiner, dissatisfy about all the things that happen to him, blamer and perhaps a loser in real life. The only way to express his feelings/thoughts about dissatisfaction are through the internet which not require to expose his real person, trying to unleash his stress by scolding, blaming, flaming the others, looking at the comment above, you will see how frequent he online, how fast he reply to other comment. Given that, i have to say he got nothing else better to do…
    =X

  152. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 20th, 2015 at 12:37 | #152

    Thanks for the replies, again all these false accusations about me being a mentally-deranged, attention-seeking individual … blah blah blah.. (wow did you use a thesaurus, cause I’m amazed you managed to infer so many supposedly different BUT wrong descriptions of mine). Cut the crap, I know who I am and how well I do in real life, so you are so flawed. Then again, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion; yours albeit a little ridiculous.

    Having said that, this is a forum on Penang Property. A forum is a channel for people to share their experiences/opinions and so on relating to the purchase of any project. I (along few others) are stating our experiences with the developer Aspen. If you do not experience the same or are not even an eligible buyer, REFRAIN from bashing us or you will probably be just making a fool of yourself. Guess you must still have been upset cause I didn’t get your explanation of the coordination thingy eh?

  153. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 20th, 2015 at 12:47 | #153

    Oh, with so many news users targeting me lately, I’m starting to question and consider a few things. First who are these people, and are they really eligible buyers of Tri Pinnacle or any other Affrodable projects. Though yes some sounded genuine to me, but a few did’t (but don’t want to resort to name-calling la). Amongst them, found out there’s a lawyer and IT support personnel.

    I am also considering changing my username. Then again, I knew I won’t ever stoop so low just like a selected few who edited their profile to temporarily change/rename their original usernames to some “penang**”, then start a debate and question me (or defend Aspen perhaps?) =/

  154. Murly
    November 20th, 2015 at 16:12 | #154

    Not new user, he is a AG staff, he even in the LINE group.

  155. penang_lang
    November 21st, 2015 at 00:02 | #155

    @penang_kia

    Looks like you still don’t understand why people trying to target/”advise” you? Who ever be your neighbor going to be so unlucky. Daily complain non stop. You have no intention in giving solution and just ranting and simply bashing Aspen, anyone and everyone trying to discuss the real issues and what the developer has done or the benefits out from this project.

    It’s like you don’t like Proton but continue to buy and yet continue to complain till the cow comes home. Come on la… don’t buy and consider buy from other affordable housing which suite your taste. There is no perfect property here especially the affordable housing. It’s no surprise that in future, everyone will know who you r in the JMC or management body since you want to be number 1 complainer/ brasher of all time. No doubt

    Sigh….

  156. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 21st, 2015 at 00:51 | #156

    Confirmed finally that I’m targeted. Hey, I am not the developer but ordinary buyer, so I have no rights to dictate thus can’t solve anything as I’m not in charge. Well since you asked, my proposed solution; Aspen to conduct the balloting in a FAIR and SQUARE manner, and be TRANSPARENT in their dissemination of information. BUT the last time I mentioned it, some (*not all) 399k buyers started bashing me thinking we (299k) don’t deserve this privilege for not being able to afford to upgrade. Also, ask around la and realize how many times the packages have “changed” since beginning of this year. Hence, I highly doubt that Aspen would listen to me so might as well save my energy. Talk about not discussing the real issues here.. Are you in my shoes?? Have you experienced countless calls to Aspen which usually ended in false, misleading answers/info, while similar calls to Perumahan revealed otherwise?? Have you??

    An analogy using your (again) lame examples: Who would want Proton (Aspen) if there’s BMW and Mercedes (Eco World & E&O)? But then I know where I stand financially, so it’s a no-brainer that I have to settle for Proton, since the specs of Perodua (other Affordable projects) may not suit my needs/preferences. “Don’t buy ….. blah blah blah”? Talk easy huh?
    Finally don’t worry, I am not kaypoh type and so don’t have much time to join JMC, as I need to work hard to earn a living and feed my family. The body instead needs committees/critics like you (and “others”). Why? Cause you’re all happy buyers, so I know I’ll rest assured that the property will be well-managed. So sorry again, no surprise. Ah don’t worry, as an individual of integrity I’ll ensure all fees are paid on time. If not kena bash again..

  157. Lousy
    November 21st, 2015 at 09:56 | #157

    Aspen really lousy developer.. send troops to forum to attack your buyers who complain… OMG..

  158. MyHome
    November 21st, 2015 at 18:33 | #158

    @penang_kia

    Why target? Because you stand out amongst all the writers here. You have alot of points that I agree but on fair grounds, you have not compromised at all. You want everything to be in your favour, your previous reply to me stating that “you just don’t care” shows it. Aspen may be changing their packages as you claim, but if you are going for the basic price, the packages doesn’t affect you right? Also there are so many choices at the same price, iSantorini, Granito are at the same area. RM299,990 also according to Perumahan’s info with bigger size than TRI Pinnacle. Why not just reject Aspen’s project as it is so frustrating to you and you keep stating that they are that lousy and not giving you the best and just request Perumahan to locate you to another? Just make me wonder if after all this time, there are some information that you know that you are not sharing and continuously insist to buy this development after being the #1 complain person here. <I'm not targeting you, but just questioning as if I were you and with all the frustration I have, I would have switched project as my confidence would be low and I won't want to face them for the next 3 years construction period and raise my BP level. Also, just checked their FB, they've got their Show Unit opened now, but have to make appointment, called but today full. Made appointment for next week. Anyone viewed it yet?

  159. MyHome
    November 21st, 2015 at 18:38 | #159

    @Lousy

    Before you say I’m from Aspen let me assure you I’m not. It seems people in forums just like to point fingers around and assume stuff. I’m an eligible buyer for affordable home under waiting list. Not sure where to apply to yet. I’m considering between Granito, TRI Pinnacle and iSantorini. The others in other parts of Penang I’m not interested as I work around Tg. Bungah area. Granito is from an established developer which intrigues me but after detailed research, is located next to a STP. TRI Pinnacle is smaller, only 800sf. but the density is the lowest it seems. iSantorini location is ultimate but density is just crazy. So every project has pros and cons, don’t know which to choose.

  160. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 21st, 2015 at 19:52 | #160

    Again, easier said than done. Switch project.. I hope it’s that easy to just request for a switch to other, because if it had been I would have done it earlier and you all wouldn’t have a chance to “target” me. That said, you do not have to know my personal reasons sticking to decision (not that I want to list them) Why?? You (and some here) were never in my shoes. Period.. Also, couldn’t agree more; people in forum like to point fingers around and assume stuff. Plenty of examples here humiliating me with derogatory replies, accusing me of being from other developers, labelling me a loser in life, blah…, but then again, I should say one more time; I know who I am and how I do in life, so these people don’t have the rights to judge me, except God!

    At the end of the day, I may look like a fool being the person who stood out in this forum (well, maybe you’re right afterall on your ONE comment of me looking for attention, cause look at all the interet garnered!), I hope if others experiencing the same would speak up too and let some ignorant people be aware of the other side of the stor , then maybe (just maybe) these people will realize that respect is earned, not given.

  161. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 21st, 2015 at 21:20 | #161

    Murly :
    Not new user, he is a AG staff, he even in the LINE group.

    Hi Murly, who were you referring to?

  162. penang_lang
    November 21st, 2015 at 22:54 | #162

    @penang_kia

    Please leave God out of the topic. Thanks

    You are taking this too personal already, to which I think you should strongly consider selecting other project. On top, seriously, in your shoes or not, why you still choose this project? Very very curious when there is no positive feedback from your end about this project.

    The main reason I think this project stand out because they already proven that there is a market of RM470k already, it’s almost fully furnish, 2 car parks (mind you they build for all units), and the location is just nice (can’t complaint much). Another one is the density is still lower.

    So again, how about you? Why continue to choose this project? Any good reason which is better than all the issues you mentioned?

  163. penang_lang
    November 21st, 2015 at 22:58 | #163

    Lousy :
    Aspen really lousy developer.. send troops to forum to attack your buyers who complain… OMG..

    Speak for yourself … Lousy

  164. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 21st, 2015 at 23:31 | #164

    @You still failed to see the point, after so much I’ve replied to and commented on till today. Then again, just so you know, there are personal reasons and circumstances, BUT these affairs are none of your business to meddle with. I’ve to take things personally as all these direct, personal attacks from multiple parties questioning my identity, my comments and so on are demeaning; they do not EVER represent the real person I am. In short, I’m just speaking up and defending myself from some baseless accusations.

    At the end of the day, there’s always two sides to a story. Unfortunately we are narrators from opposing ends, but suffice to say, these discussions hopefully will unravel the real happenings behind the scenes which Perumahan (or Jagdeep for the matter) may still be oblivious to. As for prospective buyers, the ultimate decision to purchase is still theirs; but they should know better to verify the authenticity any comments from any user in forums like these.

  165. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 21st, 2015 at 23:44 | #165

    penang_lang :

    Lousy :
    Aspen really lousy developer.. send troops to forum to attack your buyers who complain… OMG..

    Speak for yourself … Lousy

    Don’t take it too personally la.

  166. penang_lang
    November 21st, 2015 at 23:56 | #166

    What on earth is there about TRI Pinnacle that worth it to be a personal reason to purchase from? It’s like I buy Proton due to personal reason. Does not makes sense at all. Did anyone force you to buy?

    I am not sure stating facts equal to accusation.. hmmm… Per all your comments, clearly you are ranting about this project like no tomorrow.

    Anyway, don’t think anyone going to change your mind since you have “PERSONAL REASON”… like a must buy kind of thing even I hate it…. well.. hope you enjoy the feeling of been setting your self a target… good hunting… peace

    PS: you don’t have to answer the above questions… I know.. it’s your personal reasons

  167. penang_lang
    November 21st, 2015 at 23:59 | #167

    @penang_kia
    ha ha ha…. am I your target now? hmm…

  168. Lousy
    November 22nd, 2015 at 00:00 | #168

    @penang_lang

    I criticize Aspen for their lousiness also cannot.. Don’t be so defensive can?

  169. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 00:13 | #169

    Sorry, must have been too confused with too many other usernames beginning with penang* that I’m starting to mix things up associating your comment with the others (can’t help it) Well since you asked, aside from personal reasons (yea I know eventually peole will get bored when I mention personal reasons, so I won’t mention it again), what about having to go through waiting list for few more years again? Wait. Are you even an eligible buyer of these affordable homes and have you gone through the application process itself? Cause, you know, from your first ever comment to mine, on this page, you already mentioned E&O and Eco World, thus it can be deduced that … (*fill in the blanks)

    For the record, I never bashed developer’s reputation of delivering substandard finishes, but just look at their ethics, their marketing gimnicks, how they conducted the balloting, their communication and engagement of eligible buyers vs public. Too lazy to type again, scroll up and read the other comments posted here.

  170. penang_lang
    November 22nd, 2015 at 00:14 | #170

    Lousy :
    @penang_lang
    I criticize Aspen for their lousiness also cannot.. Don’t be so defensive can?

    Lousy… lousy… talk about lousy comes from lousy… so speak for yourself… nothing to do with defending Aspen la… rest assure, I will bash the developer if they did not deliver per S&P. It’s not “Personal Reason” not to bash any developer who did not deliver. So here you go… peace… lousy

  171. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 00:16 | #171

    penang_lang :
    @penang_kia
    ha ha ha…. am I your target now? hmm…

    No, I’ve never targeted any user before. I only replied politely (albeit sarcastically if you’re witth enough to catch it) to those who targeted me instead.

    But then, siapa termakan cili, dia terasa pedas, eh?

  172. penang_lang
    November 22nd, 2015 at 00:27 | #172

    penang_kia :
    Sorry, must have been too confused with too many other usernames beginning with penang* that I’m starting to mix things up associating your comment with the others (can’t help it) Well since you asked, aside from personal reasons (yea I know eventually peole will get bored when I mention personal reasons, so I won’t mention it again), what about having to go through waiting list for few more years again? Wait. Are you even an eligible buyer of these affordable homes and have you gone through the application process itself? Cause, you know, from your first ever comment to mine, on this page, you already mentioned E&O and Eco World, thus it can be deduced that … (*fill in the blanks)
    For the record, I never bashed developer’s reputation of delivering substandard finishes, but just look at their ethics, their marketing gimnicks, how they conducted the balloting, their communication and engagement of eligible buyers vs public. Too lazy to type again, scroll up and read the other comments posted here.

    Since you ask me to read, I did read them and found inconsistency about you and your comment. Let’s state the obvious, you don’t have to go through the waiting list since you are pro in complaining, write 2 letters, one to the state housing dept and the 2nd to the other developers who build affordable housing e.g. SP Chelia or iSanto.

    To answer your questions, my sis is eligible buyer and she was like WTF, is there a problem with the property? bla bla bla and I told her is better of all bla bla bla… then she said about this page and about someone from Penang complain a lot and seems to be messy project/developer. So you know la… as Bro I like WTF is going on and when I like read through… I like WTF!! So like this lor…

    Finally, you did mention this as I read your previous top comment “Please, I ain’t the greatest here. I’m just voicing out my complaints and unfortunately people like you would interpret it otherwise. I also am also like one of the many Penangites out there waiting to buy my first home. So cut the crap please; I shall save my energy and direct it to the right channel. This is an open forum, not a debate room. Not that there’s much point debating with you anyway.”

    Then per the most recent comment, you talk about “For the record, I never bashed developer’s reputation of delivering substandard finishes, but just look at their ethics, their marketing gimnicks, how they conducted the balloting, their communication and engagement of eligible buyers vs public. Too lazy to type again, scroll up and read the other comments posted here.”

    So, how can you ever bash any developer since you never purchase any property? You din’t purchase since it’s your 1st time buying TRI Pinicale, and you claim you never bash? Huh… ?? Confuse

  173. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 00:51 | #173

    Beg to differ; as I’ve waited for many years before finally getting the offer. “don’t have to go through waiting list since you’re pro in complaining” – you obviously don’t know anything about the application then.

    So finally revealed that you’re not an eligible buyer but rather a representative. No comment on that though; can’t stop you joining this forum anyway.

    Finally, thanks for taking the time to read the previous posts after my advice (well you know la a lot usually just read the latest ones then started commenting without knowing any history). Afraid I am also too confused about the point you’re trying to prove by quoting my previous posts. Since you’re so confused, ok la let me clarify as I’m a patient person: I don’t bash developer’s reputation of delivering substandard finishes as Aspen is a rather new developer entering the property industry, but I am complaining about the unfair treatment, their misleading information, packages etc, and the hassles/issues on my part resulting from these, amongst others (lost count how many times I repeated all these – hey, my vocab is somehow limited and if copy paste then people will start reading same comments and things can get dull pretty quickly). Finally, your last paragraph is so contradicting I couldn’t even understand such confusing statements. Mind giving another shot? Be critical ok? This is an open discussion on Tri Pinnacle which other readers are also interested in.

  174. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 01:02 | #174

    Well can you (and a few others) do me (and the rest) a favor, hope you can rename yourself to some other nicknames, cause frankly speaking I’m starting to get even more confused with so many “penang_”* commenting on this forum.

    Or maybe you can click Edit My Profile then under “Display name publicly as:”, select the one which matches the initial “usernames cannot be changed” one.

  175. Mei fun
    November 22nd, 2015 at 12:25 | #175

    don’t waste time with this psycho, whatever said she’s still going defend herself ridiculously and now it became “personal reason” wow! And also she has waited for years! If not bcos of aspen in first place you think you can get affordable home at 300k with freehold title at tg Tokong? Actually is very easy to change to another project if you’re already been selected as eligible buyer I got my letter of approval for changes in less than a month from the rise to Tri pinnacle, if someone is really want to change. But again this person has “personal reason” to only Complain and bash others but still want to buy! What a joke! And again if you really has gone through all those issues with the developer and has call perumahan and told no such thing why perumahan didn’t take any action? And why YB Jagdeep was at their show unit opening yesterday and prasing aspen for their great works? Come on la, don’t think people are stupid and you can just spin stories around and recycle the same allegations over and over but still want to buy! Why? Bcos you see the huge potential and value right? You’re being greedy? Such a hypocrite too! I never feel at seen anyone would go so low in bashing others who’s obviously doing a great job in providing affordable home. Finally lets don’t give this person attention and making her to become important here. I’m not going to reply her anyway, she’ll rebut to my comment here almost instantly in a few minutes! Just wait and watch!

  176. Mei fun
    November 22nd, 2015 at 12:30 | #176

    On other note guys, I visited the show house yesterday. Is so amazing and my jaw dropped to see the quality and finishes they provide for upgraded units! The design and layout is beyond expression. Well done aspen! Your IKEA idea is superb. I dare to say this is best and value for money affordable unit I have seen so far in penang. Is just so nice for this kind pricing. How did they do it? Amazing! Go and see for yourself and you’ll be amazed too.

  177. penang_lang
    November 22nd, 2015 at 12:34 | #177

    Penang Kia

    What I mean is that since you already got the approval for affordable housing, then you can just request to change and no need to wait previously like many years. I know of a person originally got SP Chelia and then request to change to iSanto and there are others like that. It takes about 1 month to get approval.

    We all know that the affordable house is BS… means who can afford 400k and consider as affordable? That’s y we need to garner support of families and like it or not, each family members will be eligible but does not mean affordable if she/ he is alone. (u know what i mean)

    About your confusion on my point: You claim that you never bash any developer’s reputation of delivering substandard finishes. But in your earlier post, you indicate that TRI Pinicale is your 1st house purchase. So how can you said you never bash since you never own any property? For sure you never bash since you never own any and no developer ever deliver anything to you until TRI Pinicale… get my point now?

  178. penang_lang
    November 22nd, 2015 at 12:47 | #178

    Mei fun :
    On other note guys, I visited the show house yesterday. Is so amazing and my jaw dropped to see the quality and finishes they provide for upgraded units! The design and layout is beyond expression. Well done aspen! Your IKEA idea is superb. I dare to say this is best and value for money affordable unit I have seen so far in penang. Is just so nice for this kind pricing. How did they do it? Amazing! Go and see for yourself and you’ll be amazed too.

    Seriously, I will discount almost like 70% of all those show units compare to actual units. Almost 100% of show units does not reflect the actual deliveries. Things may change depending on economy etc.

    Agree that Aspen is trying their best to produce quality products but until the actual units been deliver, then we can comment. For sure I wish, I hope and I want but the reality is… not that simple.

    On the good side, I am going to take some pictures when I had the chance in the show units and keep it for future reference. Just ignore those non essential display and focus on what promised to deliver etc…

    Again as Penang_Kia’s complain per his personal reason, Aspen is a new developer and this is their 1st ever project. So it will be messy initially but from my observation, they are aggressive in marketing and wanted to be in high end reputable developer like E&O… just look at their new office… their OLD office located somewhere near gurney drive and I think no more di…

    Look at their AG AG AG logo all over Pg.. it’s crazy number and at first, I did not know what AG means until visited the office and found out that AG is Aspen Group…

  179. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 13:04 | #179

    Thanks for the note on the request to change. I will give Perumahan a call to clarify once again, because as someone in LINE mentioned before there are some who had requested for a switch and they haven’t gotten a response for some time.

    Probably some misunderstanding on my previous post. When I mentioned 1st purchase I’d actually wanted to mean that Tri Pinnacle was going to be my first purchase. Still I got confused by your further explanation, but let’s not harp on that anymore.

  180. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 13:12 | #180

    And also, look at how lucky someone is, and how fast the person responded. Cause the last time I checked viewing the show unit requires appointment, and the official launch was yesterday (Saturday), plus all slots were taken.

    Lastly, I really wonder how come this forum/system didn’t automatically capitalise the first letter of my username (unlike what I’ve noticed of a few others here – 2 so far). Hmm, something for thoughts..

  181. penang_lang
    November 22nd, 2015 at 13:22 | #181

    penang_kia :
    And also, look at how lucky someone is, and how fast the person responded. Cause the last time I checked viewing the show unit requires appointment, and the official launch was yesterday (Saturday), plus all slots were taken.

    Complain again… what the hell is going on with your thinking!??!! Haiz… come on la… you assume this person go view the show unit without booking. Y can’t you appreciates the comment coming from people that already viewed? Remember all slots booked and I am sure they are mostly 400k buyers and I am sure they will be here watching and comment. I believe 1st buyer will surely impress la with show units.. cause it’s show units!! not real and it’s conceptual only.

    No accusation here.. stating facts that you want to be King of Complain for TRI Pinicale and yet, still want to buy…

    PS: Please don’t complain people target you… you set yourself as target

  182. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 13:39 | #182

    Chill, the paranoia in me just kicked in for a moment. I never for a second thought the person went without booking DUH, because if it was allowed then tell me what “by appointment only” means? And I never even questioned anything about what she saw of the unit that made the jaw drop and the project value for money, cause I myself haven’t viewed it. Fair enough.

    Oh please leave hell out of the topic ok?

    Someone once mentioned “Why target? Because you stand out .. ” (check above). So tell me if I was mistaken. Regardless, open forum invites open discussions.

  183. penang_lang
    November 22nd, 2015 at 14:13 | #183

    penang_kia :
    Chill, the paranoia in me just kicked in for a moment. I never for a second thought the person went without booking DUH, because if it was allowed then tell me what “by appointment only” means? And I never even questioned anything about what she saw of the unit that made the jaw drop and the project value for money, cause I myself haven’t viewed it. Fair enough.

    Perhaps you should keep your paranoia to yourself and don’t influence more paranoia to others. I google the meaning of paranoia and it says:

    “a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.”

  184. MyHome
    November 22nd, 2015 at 14:51 | #184

    @penang_kia

    Must be referring to me. Yes, forums are like this, open discussion. You mentioned you’ve waited “years” but accoording to Perumahan, the affordable home category was only introduce late 2014. Unless previously you applied under the LMC category and then upgraded to affordable home category when it became available. Pls check with Perumahan again, i’m in the waiting list and they say once i choose, i can write a letter to level 20 komtar and specify the project i want. processing not more than 1 month. It will not take you years like you claim. I think you’ve been ranting since beginning of the year, if you have switched project, you would have long obtained your first property like you so much desired and reduce your blood pressure level substancially.

  185. Lousy
    November 22nd, 2015 at 15:45 | #185

    penang_lang :

    Lousy :
    @penang_lang
    I criticize Aspen for their lousiness also cannot.. Don’t be so defensive can?

    Lousy… lousy… talk about lousy comes from lousy… so speak for yourself… nothing to do with defending Aspen la… rest assure, I will bash the developer if they did not deliver per S&P. It’s not “Personal Reason” not to bash any developer who did not deliver. So here you go… peace… lousy

    i also peace… deliver per s&p is one thing, attacking buyers is another.. why so fast side lousy developer?

  186. penang_lang
    November 22nd, 2015 at 16:32 | #186

    Lousy :

    penang_lang :

    Lousy :
    @penang_lang
    I criticize Aspen for their lousiness also cannot.. Don’t be so defensive can?

    Lousy… lousy… talk about lousy comes from lousy… so speak for yourself… nothing to do with defending Aspen la… rest assure, I will bash the developer if they did not deliver per S&P. It’s not “Personal Reason” not to bash any developer who did not deliver. So here you go… peace… lousy

    i also peace… deliver per s&p is one thing, attacking buyers is another.. why so fast side lousy developer?

    Why developer (Aspen) lousy? Care to elaborate? In fact, which developer you think is not lousy? Care to share your point of view?

  187. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 20:02 | #187

    @penang_lang
    You are again taking things far too seriously, and literally! Chill down really, cause if I’d done the same then I would also have learnt the real definition of whiner, person with psychological/mental disorder etc. It’s a good thing though you utilize the power of the Internet, but not to further humiliate and target me.

    @MyHome
    Glad you took the reference. Again another false accusation of me ranting since “beginning of the year”? Wrong fact! Mind checking when I first commented/joined before blurting out another lest you making a fool of yourself yet again.

    Yes I was under LMC, but when I requested to switch to Affordable last year (I think), I personally went to Komtar and spoke to the officer in detail. Eventually I wrote a letter (the officer gave me a template to refer to), BUT I was pretty sure I wasn’t allowed to pick a project that time, instead just the area (Daerah Timur Laut was my choice). Thus another (*personal) reason (since you touched on this I’ll let it known) that I dread having to go through the queue again, especially since many developers are so aggressive in their marketing and many young Penangites have also begun submitting and getting theirs approved, while mine after needing to wait for so many years.

    Finally, reading back, realized you are trying to describe me as suffering from hypertension.. No surprise; after all the labels from you in previous comments that I’ve already lost respect for people like you.

  188. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 22nd, 2015 at 20:15 | #188

    @penang_lang
    Today a bit free, so I thought what if I were you for a sec; Googled “mental disorder” and what I got in return:

    “Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors. Many people have mental health concerns from time to time.”

    Also googled the other false accusations bla bla bla, because I am always a curious person…. Suffice to say, hope you get the obvious message here and see where things would lead to. 😉

  189. penang_lang
    November 22nd, 2015 at 23:50 | #189

    penang_kia

    For the record, no one in this forum google “mental disorder”.. you did it for yourself.

  190. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 23rd, 2015 at 00:14 | #190

    Gosh, someone still didn’t get the message…

  191. Stone
    November 23rd, 2015 at 00:28 | #191

    I won’t consider Aspen a new developer, as both Murly and his major partner and former boss Nazir Ariff come from Ivory. And you know la, how good the reputation of Ivory is.

    According to an interview by Kinibiz in June, all units of Tri Pinnacle had already been sold out in June:

    “Thus began his road to building Penang’s first privately funded affordable housing initiative – TriPinnacle.
    The three-block apartment project of 1,249 units low-to-medium cost and affordable housing (at a maximum of RM300,000 for unfurnished units) is located in the prime Penang Island area of Tanjung Tokong.
    Construction commenced the fourth quarter of last year and it is slated for completion in 2018. Thus far, all units have been sold out, accounting for RM400 million in unbilled sales for Aspen Group.” (http://cms-m.kinibiz.com/story/issues/173106/why-affordable-housing-why-now.html)

    All developers tend to exaggerate a lot of things about themselves on one hand and hide something on the other. And of course, Aspen is a developer.

  192. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 23rd, 2015 at 00:48 | #192

    Mei fun :
    don’t waste time with this psycho, whatever said she’s still going defend herself ridiculously and now it became “personal reason” wow! And also she has waited for years! If not bcos of aspen in first place you think you can get affordable home at 300k with freehold title at tg Tokong? Actually is very easy to change to another project if you’re already been selected as eligible buyer I got my letter of approval for changes in less than a month from the rise to Tri pinnacle, if someone is really want to change. But again this person has “personal reason” to only Complain and bash others but still want to buy! What a joke! And again if you really has gone through all those issues with the developer and has call perumahan and told no such thing why perumahan didn’t take any action? And why YB Jagdeep was at their show unit opening yesterday and prasing aspen for their great works? Come on la, don’t think people are stupid and you can just spin stories around and recycle the same allegations over and over but still want to buy! Why? Bcos you see the huge potential and value right? You’re being greedy? Such a hypocrite too! I never feel at seen anyone would go so low in bashing others who’s obviously doing a great job in providing affordable home. Finally lets don’t give this person attention and making her to become important here. I’m not going to reply her anyway, she’ll rebut to my comment here almost instantly in a few minutes! Just wait and watch!

    Must have missed this post this afternoon, I believe cause it was have been waiting for moderation, but then now I have come across thought I should reply for one last time to this “fun” user: First I am not a psycho, but yea go ahead and label me whatever you want cause I’m already numb to all the baseless accusations. 2nd, talk is always easy; when you requested change at that time it was still at the very early stage of this Affordable Home scheme. If I were to request now no guarantee I could get another project within 1 month.

    You asked why Perumahan never took any action? Yea many in the LINE group echoed the same too. Some called Perumahan to check. Some met with Jagdeep himself. Some sent the letters to both Perumahan and Jagdeep to complain about thisall these. But why no action? I wished I knew the answer, because I also did my part but there WAS ZERO response from either Perumahan and Jagdeep. ZERO. Why Jagdeep was at their show unit opening and praise them? No-brainer thing; this affordable home program was his PORTFOLIO, why would he not turn up DUH? Also, if I were him and such unfair treatment was happening to my attention do you ever think I would want to let public know about these? Hope you get it because from previous posts you were a bit slow getting my message.

    At the end, glad I caught many people’s attention. Hope I could become an important person, because when I did maybe then Jagdeep would finally listen to our plights, or maybe I could then do something to correct this mess. Till then, looking forward to your future positive reviews of Tri Pinnacle by Aspen Group.

  193. PiMti
    November 23rd, 2015 at 09:44 | #193

    This penang_lang really is a joke to all affordable house buyers. People complaining about developer also is your business? You working with Aspen?
    If this is a private project in free market, you can request anyone to swift to other choice if they are not potential buyers. Sadly, this is a state government affordable house project which both parties (buyers and developer) also must follow the scheme and rules enforced by government.
    Penang_kia is speaking about the discriminated of RM299K buyers and unethical business tactic by Aspen. If other affordable house projects also follow the way of Aspen, more victims will suffer and more penangites no longer can afford a first house.

  194. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 23rd, 2015 at 19:58 | #194

    Thank you @Stone for sharing the link! After reading, if the contents of the articles are anything to go by, I now felt that it all wasn’t just mere exaggeration, but rather a big, blatant lie! OMG! Especially these:

    “Construction commenced the fourth quarter of last year and it is slated for completion in 2018. Thus far, all units have been sold out, accounting for RM400 million in unbilled sales for Aspen Group.”

    SOLD OUT? TO WHOM? What about so many eligible buyer who are still waiting for their turn to ballot (specifically RM299k who cannot afford to upgrade ones)? And it also mentioned construction had commenced last year? Is that so, cause as far as I’m aware eligible buyers only started receiving letters from Perumahan and developer sometime beginning of early this year. Even so, (I will stand corrected here that) the APDL wasn’t approved yet last year no, and could any developer start any work without APDL? If so I really have to applaud Aspen’s vision for commencing things without first obtaining relevant license, nor gauging public response. Just like, build first, sell later. Hats off to the pinnacles of Aspen who are really farsighted!

  195. MyHome
    November 23rd, 2015 at 22:03 | #195

    Chill. you are taking this personally again. I don’t need your respect as i’ve not earned it. You’ve not earned mine either. Yes, i’d admit my mistake as i’m not bothered to scroll all the way to the beginning and read everything. so, assuming yo have been ranting all the way from the “beginning of the year” is wrong. nonetheless, i care less about you. I’m self centred and will care for myself. face it. it is a dog-eat-dog world. Since Perumahan told me i can choose the project by just writing a letter to them, I will when I decide. If Perumahan tells you otherwise, then it’s your fault not to insist or check with them. For what I see, you are targetting aspen as they keep changing their packaging and plans. Perumahan have change their advise to you too. why not target them? Have you ever considered maybe Perumahan changed things that made Aspen have to change their packaging? i’ve got an appointment next weekend to see their show unit, this sat also full it seem. after i view it, i’ll make my decision on which property to buy. my money my choice, your money your choise. affordable home is not like LMC whereby it is subsidised. it is 100% privately developed. perumahan does the name allocation to ensure minimal buyers are speculators. so if it’s perumahan that does the allocation, they can reallocate you. the developer just sells as require and if they don’t break the law. do your research too. all business have the rights to package their products as necessary to sell. if i feel it is not fair to me, i just not buy. another example for you which you will criticise again surely, airasia, “everyone can fly”, you buy their cheap flight, then you found out you need to pay extra for airport tax and fuel charges, then you want to choose your seat, aisle or window, you pay more, then you got more baggage, you top up extra, you want a meal, you top up somemore. eventually, your flight cost will be the same as MAS. simple, cause when you want the full course, you pay the full price. i for one understand this simple reality of life but it seems nobody can’t get it into your thick head and everyone that tries to explain you gun them down with “personal reasons”. peace out, i’m leaving this chatroom. no point argue and get “hypertension”

  196. penang_kia
    penang_kia
    November 23rd, 2015 at 22:33 | #196

    As much as I respect others’ opinion, you’ve gone way overboard vilifying me using those derogatory terms. So I never ever demanded any respect at all from being like you in the first place. Then you finally admitted your mistake, which goes to show how rash you have been, blindly blurting out false accusations until you’re stopped. Yes, a dog-eat-dog world we’re in, but I am sure we are from different echelon; you’re self-centred, selfish but I will never in any way stoop so like how you/others did. Then, you claimed it’s my fault not to insist nor check with Perumahan. Seriously? To be frank I also feel Perumahan has been lackadaisical in this matter, more so Jagdeep. We highlighted this to both parties (personally met him at his office) and up to today there has been NO RESPONSE. Now what? Expecting us to bang on the doors of their houses or stage a demo in front of Komtar to voice our plights?

    Yes, your money is none of my business and vice versa. Also your Air Asia example is pretty lame; if I just need to get from A to B I don’t necessarily need to order any meal or pick a seat blah3 as long as the purpose is served; (*I can go on and rebut but then I have “something else better to do actually”, despite what you once claimed). I’m also bit steadfast aka stubborn with my decision. Just one thing I now regret was using the word “personal” as I’d actually earlier realized that sooner or later it’ll be used to counteract my future statements. True enough.

    Gonna miss it when critics like you are gone, because you kno , discussions like this are actually helping to make Tri Pinnacle as the most popular post in this forum, and most outstanding (albeit for the wrong reasons) project of all other projects in this Affordable Home Scheme.

  197. penang lead
    November 24th, 2015 at 13:33 | #197

    @penang_kia
    in your earlier comments you said aspen answers and reply is absolutely a lie as you called perumahan and was told no such thing. and now youre blaming perumahan and jagdeep for not taking actions? your previous allegations is a slander? you seems to be very contradicting with all your statements whenever someone challenge your allegations. that’s say something isn’t it? and now you regret to use “personal reason”? whatever your explanations is doesn’t makes any sense and you keep contradicting your own statements. speaking truth doesn’t need to change stand and statements.

  198. Ken
    November 24th, 2015 at 14:50 | #198

    I would rather say ‘penangpropertytalk.com’ is lousy. Anyone can just voice out anything they want to. However, ‘penangpropertytalk.com’ would thanks to you guys make it so ‘popular’.

    From 1st comment until recent comment with on-going progress, only God know!

    eg,
    1) 1st batch buyer comment how bad Aspen was but 3rd batch buyer (without knowing 1st batch fact) will comment 1st batch buyer complain so much?
    2) those unlucky eligible buyer will felt why you guys lucky enough get the affordable house still complain so much?
    3)

    There is no such good developers in this world, they have their own interest; Good or bad is vary from individual perspective.

    Conclusion, it depend what you faced/encountered, because human is the most complicated living thing in the world.

  199. IamWhoIam
    November 25th, 2015 at 00:33 | #199

    An agent just told me that the public unit price increased from 469k to 479k, about 10k increment, officially 25 of Nov.If with that pricing,i think i will got for OHM affortable unit..lower density although furnish or not still an unknown.

  200. Kuai ku kia
    November 25th, 2015 at 14:34 | #200

    Hi iamwhoim, where is the ohm affordable homes? I want to apply too, tq

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