The free S&P legal fee from developer is very cheap nia.

hello, how much does CW developer pay for SNP legal fee ?? should we hire another lawyer then ? pls kindly advise

@Ah Dog

@HJC
not want ,bc lawyer got – 30% (You can also discuss)& snp is 400 only ,but want to see how many loan u borrow ……

Depend on the loan agent able to negotiate for you on the lawyer fee, if you hire another lawyer, then will be higher than 30% of the fee.

Anyone want to let go their standard view unit, prefer plot 20 until 37? interested buyer here.
can email me at
tswchc@gmail.com

I thought still left a lot of units, but need to ask people to let go some more.

hi to all CW buyer, we hv FB website as centralway , bukit tengah . pls kindly add it.The template of complaint letter is ready. The buyers of CW would like to lodge offcial complaint regarding the defect and exterior colour of the house . We would b pleased if we can gather more buyers and force the developer to monitor the quality of the house tht they will delivered in future.@Prevention is better than cure.@

House hasn’t been built and already got complaints…?

Sounds a bit rediculous to complain even just see the show house. But i think it takes some effects but developer surely won’t invest to make the quality like IJM, Mah Sing, E&O. Quality and reliability of the house built equal to the money put in. You can make the color change, but i don’t think you can influent the developer to use ‘red bricks’ instead of normal cement bricks.

The developer provides 24 month of warranty, so, they’re confident with their quality.

@BD
Complain due to some defects found in show house. Ask developer to be more aware of this.

@Economic Crisis
Not asking developer to use red brick but aware their QC. As GSLA says “Prevention is better than cure”, although got 24 months warranty but keep claiming after complete all parties also busy….

Yeah, true, after found defect then only fix, it won’t last any longer and will come back. Like delink, heard that after test with water in master room washroom overnight, it leaks, and developer fix it, but not sure can last or not.

Btw, this developer use a lot of different contractors, and their ‘track record’ is already well known of it’s output quality no good. Don’t know how they actually improve it from one project to another.

gcsla :hi to all CW buyer, we hv FB website as centralway , bukit tengah . pls kindly add it.The template of complaint letter is ready. The buyers of CW would like to lodge offcial complaint regarding the defect and exterior colour of the house . We would b pleased if we can gather more buyers and force the developer to monitor the quality of the house tht they will delivered in future.@Prevention is better than cure.@

wahh, you really make like you are buying million dollars of property. salute to u

@Central Unit
yes, salute to gcsla!!
he is not only protecting his right but also raise the awareness to other buyers and help to stick everyone together. Thanks.

went to the site this morning the location is no good

Ha, if every buyers can unite together like what gcsla said, then no need to worry on the abundon project liao.

@Central Unit
Hey, total all 99 units can be multi-million Ringgit property, need to protect consumer’s right.

gcsla, i support ur move. It is not about the amount of money, but the consumer right. The project seems to be moving fast, i think can finish in less than 2 yrs.

The project already started?

Ah Dog :
The project already started?

the 4 units show house already completed.

After the whole project completed, the 4 units show house will become old houses.

take compassion on plot 37 ~ 40

Plot 37-40 are good units what.

Heard that Phase 2 will have swimming pool, semi-D, bungalow with personal lift, not sure true or not. This make the Phase 1 a ‘entry’ level, advance level at the subsequent pahse.

Their De-Mansion also has personal lift bangalow.

phase 1 and 2 will not linked together, even got swimming pool also not relate.

Phase 1 residences can curi-curi masuk to phase 2 to use their swimming pool what..haha

If curi curi masuk to use their phase 2 swimming pool get caught malu la…

Phase 1 curi-curi masuk is OK, still controllable, if all Kampung boys there curi masuk, swim without swim wear, then will be big problem, like most of the appartment or condo, like Mutiara Height in Penang.

Anybody was signed the SnP?

@ peddy
not money how to signed Snp ………

I surely will not buy this cheap g&g, the security will end up the be theft, more advance then theft as they know you better, when you gone for vacation. adverse effect…

Colleague :
I surely will not buy this cheap g&g, the security will end up the be theft, more advance then theft as they know you better, when you gone for vacation. adverse effect…

haha…cheap price=cheap G&G,–>security will become theft…so better go buy expensive price=expensive/luxury G&G,–>security will become ???

Agree in certain extent, even high end condo also get burglar, and most suspecious is the security as my friend just went back to his mother in law house for few days. But, you can’t blame them also, just lock normal compalint report, and keep quiet and improve your own lock and alarm system, that is the much you can do. Anyway, be more friendly with the security guys la, like give them ang pao and gift during festive season, hope they will ‘give face’ to your unit.

Just called the developer, no plan and no idea at all on the Phase 2, see some comment on phase 2, all just simply said.

yes loh, sendiri cakap sendiri siok

Don’t simply said la…

Act faster if you’re interested to buy an unit, still left ~20 units. Phase 2 definitely will not at this price, expected the price will from RM400k onwards on equivalent build up and land size.

Raw material cost will increase 20% or more in the coming 2 years. Do simple calculation and you will know the price of subsequent phase unit, this is yet to factor in land interest.

No that fast increase la, mainland property is appreciating very very slowly as there are plenty of land. Unlike KL, even far away from KLCC, the price can appreciate very fast as KL market is big and very energetic. Penang? It is just small island that it’s property has been ‘goreng’ till very high, reason is land scarce. In fact, more shopping malls and hospital can be built in mainland, then the ‘island’ will not play so ‘important’ role to serve all the amennities. Like Sultan Iskandar Johor, Penang Mainland can build ‘Premium Outlet’ for branded stuff, Theme Park like Disneyland….then only can see some ‘growth’ in PG.

Mainland property like Raja Uda the price will surely increase fast, in the new paper also said that Raja Uda is a golden land.

Raja Uda is only for mainland people.People from Penang will not buy
property in Raja Uda if they know well that area.This area is congested
and gangters’ area.

Development in Mainland is fragmented, it will be many many years from now if not decades to see a jump in appreciation…

@J&J
Problem with some penang people is that they do not mainland enough before commiting, example is Juru, lured by juru autocity, they buy now juru is sarang bangla. If you want to buy in mainland listen to the locals.
BTW penang is also full of gangster, wait till reno you have to PAY them

@auss
agree with you that some place have to survey enough before commit. But most ppl just listen to ppl comment and nvr go to survey themselves same as most comment here. most without verification and with alot assumption.

Ain’t your statement that most ppl just comment and don’t survey is also and assumption?? Cheers

CK :
Ain’t your statement that most ppl just comment and don’t survey is also and assumption?? Cheers

ya,i assume this statement without verify too…what important is have to self survey.

After so many comments on mainland property above, the conclusion is, mainland is for mainland people, and for those can’t affort Island property and jump to mainland for landed property, and for those from other state that work in mainland, so, the property supply is enough for the demand, and price so ‘flatly’ growth.

Unlike Penang Island, it’s property market is for International, expatriate and investors (and speculators). So, the price is rocket shooting, after cross the sea to mainland, totall defferent story, the market is totally different.

Any project or development in mainland for international market? I think none. Island has The Light, Sri Tanjung Pinang, Southbay, Botanica CT, and many more, you can simply name more. So, if want to see some light at the end of Tunnel, mainland need some giant township project and many many facilities and recreation/tourism spots to be built. Now, abang Eng want to move all LMC giant project to mainland, like in Batu Kawan, can’t imagine 7500 units LMC township, Bandar Cassia? Should call it Bandar Kiasilang.

Ya, we need an undersea tunnel between gurney and bagan ajam to see the light at the end of tunnel.

@CK
Development in mainland is very scattered, not systematic, till decade will not make any change. Raja Uda is very caparang, condo here and there, landed chip in between, a lot squatters, ‘flags’ are everywhere, when festive season, jam here and there, driving also need very carefull, suddenly see motor jump out in front of your car….terrible.

I have been staying in Penang island ever since then and I should say
Penang is not a nice place as it was years ago. Everywhere you have traffic
jamns because the authority keeps installing traffic lights as many as
possible.

It seems that they cannot afford to build overhead bridges to replace the
traffic lights and no proper planning of roads system.Nothing is great staying
in Penang.

Sorry, it all boilts down to which part of Penang you stay la… Being voted the 8th most livable city in the region ain’t that bad right?

It’s nothing special? You have any idea how much per sqft is selling in many prime residential area or not? I call those palaces. You must be joking…. You should get out more to jalan jalan la…

How I wish there’s a like button here!
I am sure many penangites will click LIKE!! to support
Cheers la

Who voted ? I not talking about monetary value of how much per sq. ft.
If I am able to pinpoint the traffic problems, I am not sitting in the office
everyday or for 8 hours.

If you want to talk about “jalan jalan” I “jalan” not only in asia Pacific.
Most of Penangites, how often do they drive along the highways ? By
judging by the way they drive tell everything.

Ok la Ok la… Mai Kek Sim okay

You had your point I had mine. Goodnite….

Haha, no need to argue here la, all complaint should go to the government. Two traffic light junction at Lebuh Raya Tun Dr. Lim Chong Eu at Macallum area is the ‘great’ example of how poor we plan our traffic; many other examples….Penang can’t affort to gain more transport on the road, although off peak hours still OK, but during peak hour, from Prangin Mall drive to Straight Quay need more than 1 hour.

Penang island jam, mainland also jam, jam every where, even Saturday afternoon also jam. I will only go jalan jalan in Penang at the early morning Sunday. KL people has a choice, Singapore people has many choices, they can go for MRT, LRT, all kind of public transport. But Penang people also has choice la, ride motor bike lor, can ride like circus, turn here turn there, i have motor bike too, second option, but sometime motor also jam

Ha, 8th place most livable city! How they judge? Traffic congested, dirty restaurant, dirty toilet, smelly shopping mall like KOMTAR, mosquito dengue, haze, terrible public transport…Sorry, i am not the one say all these, but a friends from Haerbin – China told me, he/she said only need to come one time, no more second time, eat roti canai see cockroach, scare of mosquito, etc.

Every people know every where also got gangster.Not only Raja Uda is a gangster’s area In Penang island like area in Air Itam ,Paya Terbong, Falim, Jelotong,Weld Quay ,Georgetown 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,street and many other places also got gangster……. As long as we don’t involve them it’s ok.

Penangites know what type of residences are staying in areas like Perak
Road,Air Itam ,Paya Terbong, Falim, Jelutong, Weld Quay and Magazine
Road to Cecil Street.

This seems like eveywhere also got ‘gangster’. Teluk Kumbar also got gangster what, that always ride motor bike fast and speeding.

In fact, what is the main concern of gangster?

Since they are everywhere, as long as you’re not borrowing ah long, not involve with their activity, then it is fine. Even you live in The Light, gangster still can find you.

In PG island or mainland it is more safety if we buy property with g&g. Like Palm Villas 3storey g&g is the first successful property in Raja Uda.One of my friend member stay there said it is safe & peaceful not heard about gangster.

I wonder why you all talk about gangster?

Economic Crisis :
@CK
Development in mainland is very scattered, not systematic, till decade will not make any change. Raja Uda is very caparang, condo here and there, landed chip in between, a lot squatters, ‘flags’ are everywhere, when festive season, jam here and there, driving also need very carefull, suddenly see motor jump out in front of your car….terrible.

I think the point you mention here is worst in island… esp the motor jump out one.

If we want to live in a Chinese-majority area, surely there will be gangsterism.

Raja Uda area is famous as a gangster area,go and ask people living there.
Turn in behind the main road, there are still a lot of squatters and “jungle”
like enviroment.

If Raja Uda is a famous gangster area. Why the property price increase so fast like palm Villas,Anggerik, Cassia, Taman Merbau,Taman Mawar,Taman Mesra Permai & etc…….?

Well if you like the area just go ahead and buy. No point arguing.
Anggerik is a town house hidden behind with a narrow road leading
to the units.

How much does the price increase for Palm Villas ? Owners will be selling
the highest price possible but are they saleable at that price ?

You can put a price of RM600k for a unit at Palm Villas, and put the same price RM600k for 1300sf condo like lease hold summer place in PG Island. If i am agent, i think i will only interested to push sale for Condo as it ‘surely’ will take up very fast, but Palm Villas at ‘seberang’, maybe need to advertise for a year and sold at highly ‘negotiated’ price.

Please accept the fact, the different in mainland and island is it’s subsale, subsale is very hard in mainland, while island, subsale will move very fast and price keep on increasing. You increase the price in mainland, people will buy new property, as there are many choice.

I like

I think there is some math to calculate the price of landed in mainland, it is always half price of the island landed (comparable unit in size/layout/typical location). e.g. if a 2ST landed in island cost RM800k (Sg Ara), then in mainland will be ~RM400k (Butterworth). So if one day the price in island reach RM2mil, then in mainland will become RM1mil.

haha, good to hear that, so i wish the island landed property like 2ST to reach RM2mil, so i can re-sell this 3ST in mainland with RM1mil soon.

who can affort RM1m house? with yearly salary increment 5% for typical workers? the economic transition for high income is just a big joke for us, high income, even higher cost living, i agree with you the price can reach RM1m may be after 10 years, but the price of 1 plate of mee goreng mamak stall can be RM10 (no telur) and RM12 with telur. majority can just never affort to own good property.

** i should say Mee goreng mamak di tepi jalan cost RM10, not in restaurant, in restaurant will be RM50 for a bowl of curry mee, like in Old Town, after 10 yrs from now.

If people bought a house RM500k,he will sell RM500++,another person buy RM500++,he will surely sell RM600++and keep on going, this is how the price increase.May be 3 to 5 yrs the price reach RM1mil.

Yes lo…. no wonder the property price shooting so high.

If CentreWay is completed ,sub sales price may be Rm480++.

You must be kidding my friends, RM480k after completed? I think you’re saying RM480 per month for the rental after completed, for empty unit rent, yes, this can be the price to rent out.

I wonder how many buyers of Central Way are real BM folks…

I don’t want argue, wait and see …who is correct ?

BM folks or not BM folks doesn’t matter, as i can tell you Penang Island folks can be the majority and no surprise. As now island property is very expensive, so, buy at mainland and hope the two bridge after 3 years can mitigate the traffic jam, and still can work in island while live in mainland.

RM480 per month i will rent from you, after deduct RM99 maintenance fee, only RM380 per month, pitty until that bor?

@y
Yes,I guess you are correct ,when completed the price will be RM480k++ to RM500k.

@y
Btw, no need to wait la, sub-sale in mainland no value one, so, no need to wait and you will dissapointed. RM480k is you say one, but no one take up, they will willing to put RM480k for 2nd phase or other new project la. This is a typical trend in mainland. It is not too much to say mainland property is doing as poor (or poorer than) as Ipoh, Melaka, Sabah and Sarawak, can’t beat KL for sure and poorer than JB.

KL is big and capital city, JB got Singapore. Penang got what? PG Island price up is due to scarce in land and penangites like to collect property, and leave them vacant.

Hello, to all CW buyer do you support @y said ,the price will increase to RM480k after completed?

If i am a buyer, i will say the price will increase till RM500k once completed. But i am not, so, i will say not, as i know a lot of sub-sale at mainland is just no value, especially when you live there for few years, become old, paint also drop, the value will even lower. RM500k can get another new semi-D there easily even after 3 years. My friend bought 2ST terrace at BM 8 years ago for RM220k, now sold at RM250 with renovated and FF, but house is old and the surrounding also old and dirty. This is mainland, not island like Lip Sin, even the single storey house old till can’t live, still can sell at RM550k (the original price 30 yrs back was RM25k)

But after 10 yrs (not to say 30 yrs), this CW will old, and price drop, after 30 yrs, need to demolish and rebuild.

@bb
When supply is over demand, the price will be stagnant. It also depends the house price of relative project will it be at this level or not, if comparative new project is selling at RM400k, then the price hardly go for RM480k. However, if relative similar type project selling at RM500k, i think it is possible to go for RM480k. But all depending the demands also. Bayu Mutiara initial launch was less than RM200k, now already go for RM350k or more.

It is ok, the inflation will help you on this CW. While speculation and inflation will do in Island.

An actual demand is when the property launch, it will sold out in just few days or up to few weeks only. But look at this project, how long it already open for booking? This is enough to reflect the sub-sale will not doing well once completed, even can have same price at RM358k after completed.

Don’t want to compared to Island landed property, as they all will sapu habis quickly. But look at all landed property at Butterworth region, and Seberang Jaya like Villa Pamello, all sapu habis not even launch. So, location is everything, no good location, don’t think about sub-sale value, it is equal to none. Once completion, if you can sell at RM400k, actually you’re not making any money as you have paid bank interest + lawyer transaction fee.

Those landed property like in Simpang Ampat, BM, Bukit Tengah, Kapala Batas, Jawi, etc are for own living only, don’t think about investment. Actual story, my friend sold his house at Jawi after several years living, not making any gain after factor in lawyer fee and bank interest, even lost money on the renovation.

@Ah Dog
Palm Villas completed in 2008 selling RM400k++, now selling RM500k++/ RM600++.why….?

Haha, y, you should know why right, see my comment above, because Palm Villas is in Butterworth, or Raja Uda to be exact. Not on those places i listed above. According to na keat too, only butterworth and seberang jaya are doing good. I went to sale office to ask for villa pamello, all units sold out not even need to advertise, more than 300 people waitlisted for only 30 units bumi lots. So hot, but only can happen in Penang Island, Butterworth and Seberang Jaya ONLY. Congratulation if you have property in one of these three main region.

old mantra in property investment is “Location, Location, Location”.
new mantra is “Location, Timing, Branding”. make popular by Ho Chin Soon.

Mainland investment is not so promising, so those who want to invest should look for property in big city like KL, JB or Penang island. Bukit tengah is still consider a strategic location, so i think the appreciation is there but 3 yrs later, 480k is too exaggerate i think 420k is more achieveable.

I think for those who grow up or use to live at Raja Uda will think tat it is a strategic location. I personally feel tat it is not. it is too crowded and traffic is not good. The best thing i can think of is plenty of hawker food and also it is a chinese territory.
For mainland location wise, i think Prai, Seberang Jaya is the best location. BM, Bkt Tengah, Bkt minyak still ok.

For mainland, i agree there are only 2 areas that is ok to buy ( not invest ) i.e Seberang Jaya and Rada Uda. I have personnally experienced this but I can assure you the appreciation in Mainland is still at 3-4% per annum only. I bought a 2 1/2 Storey terrace in Taman Tun Hussein Onn for RM300K and now only RM420-440K….. ( now for sales )

I self owned 2 units of 2 1/2 storey terrace house at prime location of Seberang Jaya for sales now……

1) Basic unit @ RM450K
2) Renovated (RM180K) @ RM525K
Call me at 012-4807833

Ah Dog,Na Keat, I am from Pg Island I want to buy 3storey house in mainland g&g for own stay around RM500k to RM600++. There are 5 property which I selected :Haramori Residensi, Orange Villa, Mega Home,Mandarin Quarter and Palm Villas. Please give opinion ?

First of all, Megahome is not g&g, and it is located at the ‘non-chinese populated area’ (don’t want to say any more than this), but very convenient where close to PG bridge/megamall. Just forget about Harmoni Residensi/Orange Villa if you’re working at PG Island, no doubt on the house ‘luxury’ but location mind. Mandarin Quarter, it is located at a very congested area, too happening is no good and with adverse impact, beware, the air may not so good as big temple is nearby, and you will hear the sounds almost everyday (i’m not here to critic anything as i’m a taoism too). So, go for Palm Villas, can see it now, so well establish, with up to RM600k budget, just grab one la. (one conds, the main door seems at the backyard, no good in fengsui). That’s it, just my 2 cent.

@Ah Dog

Palm Villas can considered old design now, orange villa and harmony residensi at jalan betik is a good choice for ppl working in mainland, it will depend on which route you’re taking to reach penang bridge. i think Ah Dog is not a local ppl in BM, that is why Mr Dog said orange villa and harmoni residensi are not a good choice for ppl working in island.

@ss
There’re lot of comments on the 5 property that you’re selected. I will suggest you to view all the comments listed in this blog, take all the bad & good comments, and then go visit the site before you plan to buy it. Some comments may be not correct as some ppl just simply shoot without given any facts behind. If you’re planning for own stay, you need to make yourself familiar with the property location too, You can use Wikimap to make yourself familar with the property location such as which routes is the shortest route to island if you’re working in island and etc.

@ss
dont think you can get harmoni residence (jln betek, by Airmas) at 600k++

manutd :@ss dont think you can get harmoni residence (jln betek, by Airmas) at 600k++

ya lor…saw their advertisement in newspaper last weeks….for 2 storey linked semid price is at 669k liao…linked meaning no backyard land eh, ka cheng tui ka cheng..build up not big too, just 24ftx45ft, land site 32ftx65ft nia…i think si pek mahal lor with that house size…….hahaha

@ss
all your shortlisted projects are good in mainland,not bad for a penangites, except for megahomes, the rests are very close to the top chinese schools in mainland, chung ling in raja uda & jit sin in BM.
Mandarin Q already sold out, palm villas demand is very good but low in supply,still got units in Megahomes but good units facing taman all gone,left with facing west & near high voltage cable. Orange Villa good concept, consider not expensive for its size, Harmoni residence should be more expensive than Orange V & may over your budget.
So between Orange V & Megahomes, my personal opinion is Orange V.
Of course,you want to bet that the proposed tunnel do happen, then you have to go subsale in raja uda.

guys, by the way, i went to the central way’s site, there is a project called Taman Kerjasama (right behind Lek Yuen restaurant), is it GnG?

@ABCD

Palm villa, intermediate, u can get RM540K.. look at mudah.my… i called the ownder before.. he is looking to sell

We have wawasan 2020 by Dr. M, and Penangites have wawasan tunnel 2020, once the tunnel between Gurney and Bagan Ajam become reality, Butterworth area will be very ‘tuah kong’.

@K9
I think you’re BM folks lo, yes, BM houses are for BM folks, but not suitable for those working in Penang Island, and furthermore have kids family, need to take care, to tuition, nursary, etc. Tell me, which is the shortest route? Are we having a lot of options? If yes, i don’t think there is any traffic jam out there anymore, but in fact, we are not.

For Palm Villas with very competitive pricing, please survey the environment before commit, few units are facing apartment’s car park block and another row is next to a school. Those units were given huge discount by developer. The downside for Palm Villas is, the width is only 20ft, very small.

As for Megahome, still have unit facing garden about 2 weeks ago.

I am from other state and traveling to work in penang island. It is still OK to me.

Ah Dog :@K9 I think you’re BM folks lo, yes, BM houses are for BM folks, but not suitable for those working in Penang Island, and furthermore have kids family, need to take care, to tuition, nursary, etc. Tell me, which is the shortest route? Are we having a lot of options? If yes, i don’t think there is any traffic jam out there anymore, but in fact, we are not.

There’re at least 3 routes that you can get to Penang bridge from Jalan Betik which Orange Villa and Harmoni Residensi located:

1. Take SBK road and go straight to Gemilang Permai Business park, you’ll find a traffic light, turn left to Bayu Mutiara then go straight towards auto city’s highway..
2. Take SBK road and go straight till the end of road then you will find a T junction with traffic light, turn left to go to Bayu Mutiara’s shop lots(if you take right turn, can too, you’ll find Lok Yuen’s restaurant..), take right turn at traffic light to go to auto city’s highway..
3. No need follow SBK road, follow jalan betik road till the end and you’ll find the T junction with traffic light, turn left and go straight towards Bandar Perda or Jusco, from the traffic light near railway and Petronas station then take left turn and go straight and you’ll see one big roundabout, take 12’Oclock then go straight towards Pacific megamall, along the road, you’ll see the Penang Bridge’s signboard…

There’re still many routes you can take to avoid the traffic jam(if have) using the small roads and others alternatives routes..I’m lazy to type..so i just gave you 3 routes to reach Penang Bridge.. . But the route #1 above is a shortest route i believe to reach Penang bridge..

As i said, if you plan to buy a house in mainland, no matter where is the property location, you must take some time to go to survey the surrounding including the routes that you can take to reach your office if you’re working in island.

Surrounding of jalan betik and also gemilang permai business park got a lot of shop lots, there also have a lot of tuisyen center there like Erican english center, Kumon, Smart reader and etc . Mr Dog, from the comments that you gave, i think you’re really not familar with BM, Bukit Minyak, Juru, Alma areas. You might be familar with Raja uda area only.

i think Raja Uda not bad to stay too as there’re lot of shop lots there..some times i went there jalan jalan too

Thank,Ah Dog, K9, ABCD,I chose Palm Villas & Orange Villa. Tomorrow I will go and survey the site and environment there. There is 1 intermediate unit for sale in Palm Villas my friend’s broker will take me to see the house. After that I will visit Orange Villa site.

@ss

Ya. Good to go and survey the site first. Hope you’ll find your dream home in mainland 😉

There is an empty half way build abandon bangalow opposite the Palm Villas, when i see the show unit previously, saw it and very scary. Make sure your unit is not facing it, might have dirty stuff inside especially during night time.

Abandon bangalow or houses is everywhere at mainland, can’t avoid. Even Bukit Jambul and Jesselton high end housing area also has abandon bangalow.

@K9
Location not bad, inside the Palm Villas every corner had cctv, the swimming pool, playground,garden are clean.The layout of the house is ok also got rooftop.
I went to Orange Villa site, there is no show house.

@Paranormal, I didn’t see any abandon bungalow opposite Palm Villas.where exactly it is?
Is it beside the apartment?

@ss

Ya, Palm villas not bad in term of location and also its GnG’s concept. But what i meant is its house design is old design and the build up size is smaller if compare to orange villa. i heard from tah wah’s sales person that orange villa’s show house is planning to be ready on May next year, now of course no show house yet since this project just pre launch on last month, 15-Oct-2011.

There’re plenty of feedbacks and comments ragarding orange villa in orange villa’s blog. You can check what ppl feedback on this project if you’re interested on it. Those comments will definately help you to do your own survey when you’re going to the site 😉 .

Since you’ve went to both Palm Villa and orange Villa site, then you can compare the distance and time taken to reach Penang bridge if you’re working in island. For me, i believe the distance and time taken from Palm villas and orange villa to Penang Bridge will be almost the same, it will be depend on which routes you’re taking and the condition of traffic.

I got one unit, as i see the Tunnel as thrid link will become reality, the connection between island and mainland will be very smooth then, property in mainland also will doing well in appreciation.

Muhyiddin sees no logic for Penang tunnel, you still hope so much? A lot of road block will be pushed by Central on PG government, unless, change 100%.

What are you so excited for frog brain. The tunnel is up to the state government. Don’t play with fire here

I just cancelled my booking fee gone

@Central unit
Can refund 90% right?

@Neutral
Hi, BN Neutral, the state gorvernment no need to get green light from central on the tunnel?

@Central unit
Why you canceled ?

Na Keat :@Central unit Can refund 90% right?

Have to pay RM2k penalty charge, regret to jump in so fast but anyhow RM2k lost now better than after sign snp RM400k is locked forever.

la :@Central unitWhy you canceled ?

Too many bad things about this project site, i advice those want to buy survey they surrouding site first at least 5 different timing on morning, afternoon, evening, night, midnight

Mmm, sounds like many withdrawn their booking deposit, that’s why people said before pay any deposit, need to do super fast and prompt survey and decision, else, lost RM2000 which is hard earned money.

Anyway, never see this project advertise on newspaper yet, i think the sale is doing pretty good. A lot better than De-Garden in Jawi.

@Central unit
Are you staying in Bukit Tengah ? Please let us know the bad things about this project site.

After Bukit Tengah developed, then all the ‘environment’ problem should reduce.

@la
Btw, are you planning to book one? Just drive to the site surrouding and have a feel. I think the feel is just the same like all other area in Penang mainland. Don’t compare to Penang Island.

@Raja

Not yet book, may be planning to buy house in Raja Uda area. Because heard many people said that state government is going to built tunnel between Gurney and Bagan Ajam.

Hey, guys, look at the BM Highland is selling at RM450k for it’s 2ST, just very normal 2ST. So, This CW is super duper worth it to buy.

3ST for RM358k nia….second phase will surely sell at RM400k++. No need to think so long, like it, like the place, then buy.

@la
Now not sure yet whether the tunnel can be reality. But if you look for similar house like CW in Raja Uda, surely RM450k++. Even Batu Kawan 2ST now at RM330k already.

Hey, guys, can go and see this developer recent completed project in Butterworth, Bagan Lallang, call Delink 2, very nice houses, can go in to see the output quality, so that you can expect what you will get in this CW, can do some benchmark, and feedback to developer if you found something not right.

I just went there, quite impressive g&g, and the surrounding is semi-D and bangalow.

Btw, Delink 2 has similar design to this CW.

Delink2 can’t compare to this one, it is located at very convenient place; school, restaurant, shopping mall and grocery store are nearby.

althought delink2 is smaller than this CW, but i think the price is higher than RM358k now on subsale. heard delink1 can rent out RM1k per month, not sure true or not.

Delink now selling at RM400k++ onwards.

Delink2 is more ideal as it faces either north or south, avoid direct sun light.

CW is also facing either north or south

Avoid direct sun light really help a lot, cooler than those facing sun light for ~1degC in average, one of the green concept (as per said by SP Setia on thier Setia Green)

No more RM400k for delink, if yes, then i will buy d. I think more than RM400k if there is any unit for sale.

Central Park at Bagan Lalllang already hit RM450k for 2ST intermediate unit, can we still get 3ST Delink at RM400k? All Bagan Lallang new 2ST terrace all trending RM400k and above, even construction not yet start.

f you has experience staying in 3 ST,you will most definitely go for 2ST.

@Buyer

2ST is prefereable but it is hardly find now. So, the third storey for 3ST will normally become guest room.

Yes, no choice then will have to consider 3 ST.

When become old, then you only use the ground floor. 2nd and 3rd storey you can’t go

In fact, I really like the single storey bungalow in Juru Palm Garden, no need to climb stair case.

@Ah Dog

Why worry , the 2nd floor for our son and 3rd floor is for our grandchildren loh……..

Think positive, we need to walk for 10,000 steps in order to keep healthy. So, walk up or down can be a very effective way. Don’t think about getting old, leg injury, etc, there is still a room down there.

any has signed the SNP ?

Already signed SNP, depend on your loan approval.

any unit left?

@jegs
should still hv 10units ++ left

If want to buy, act fast. Although there are pros and cons, go see yourself and make decision fast. Once the constructon commence, the price will not less than RM358k. Now i think still has RM20k discount. Phase 2 will at least at RM388k onwards for similar units.

I have sign snp. I quite like the location and also the design despite some negative view in this blog. Most attraactive part is still the price.

What’s the quality of the Oriental Max developer? Any leaking pipes in years to come I wonder.

@Ah Qua
You may refer to the buyer of DeLink, Taman Merbau Indah, Taman Bukit Kecil, Taman Juru(nt sure), DeHarvest or Twin Villa which was built by Oriental Max for the after built quality,

@JC
Thanks for the info JC!

Ya.. The price is the cheapest among those property in bm. We jst dont want to let the housing loan b overburden us

Last weekend I go in see this project. While the price is attractive… the design leaves much to be desired. My gosh.. especially the bathroom… so tiny and narrow… if you walk in, you can never extend your hands out… sure touch the wall before your arms are fully extended.

But it’s just me la… I like comfortable-sized jambans… not one that you can shower & bake cake at the same time one 😀

LOL!

However, there’s another interested project (non-G&G) before this Central Way… I find the design very chio… but that time the show unit door locked (it was Awal Muharram)… maybe got time I go look-see look-see….

Haha, Uncle, now where got jamban and bathroom in separated one? You must be living in ‘pre-war house’ for long time. The washroom is just nice la, although in rectangular shape. It only comes to problem if you prefer a bath tub inside.

Btw, any comment of complain on Oriental Max’s completed project? eg. like pipe leaking or roof top leaking? I just heard their projects are doing well, especially DeLink at Taman Segar Butterworth, latest bank approved loan for subsale hit RM420k for intermediate unit.

RM420k is real cheap if you compare to this CW. CW even can’t see the house already RM358k, after 3 years only complete, during that time the bank interest already cost you ~RM20k. Delink is even at prime location butterworth.

@Uncle Ho
haha, i think you’re looking for bathroom that fits two, can do ying yang bath.

@Jay
what is the built up size and land size of delink 2?

The land size is 1155sf, and total build up size is 2052sf, for Delink. (not delink2, it is not completed yet, but delink2 has exactly same size and design like delink for intermediate unit, the only different is delink2 is ‘open gate’, meaning no door gate on each unit).

For RM420k, if consider the price per land size, it is RM363/sf. If consider total build up, it is RM205/sf. Still much more cheaper than those condominium at Raja Uda area. (now trending ~RM260/sf for newly build condo at Butterworth area).

the land size is 18ftx64ft? oriental max seldom put advertisement so will hardly know their project details unless go office to ask.

Yes, exactly, 18×64, the width is very small, standard should be 20 or 22.

What to do, they want to squeez more units on the limited site land size in prime area, only Delink in 18′ as they are in the most prime location compare to any other g&g project by Oriental Max. Like this CW, can get 20′. Anyway, Delink is always better choice compare to any other Condo in Butterworth, and have limited budget to get new 2ST terrace in Butterworth as the price is trending at RM450k and obove, some more the total build up less than 2000sf, only at ~1700sf.

@Jay
ya,same as current CW, with RM338k also hardly get to find any 2ST at bukit tengah or bm area because mostly is semi-d with higher price. are you owner of delink?

aiyoh… uncle not staying in pre-war house la… but for that kind of price… at least give la a bigger toilet…. uncle got one friend his waist is 40 inch… I think he go inside the toilet maybe cannot even pushing one round. sure get stuck!! but of course I am exaggerating la… No offense to the buyers. the location is damn swee… can walk out eat Rojak at Look Yuen anytime… wah lau… banyak sudap!!!

Today uncle will go see itu apa nama Jesselton Heights or whatever Mat Salleh sounding name project at Alma there. Since the Bandar Perda Jusco will be moving house there, Uncle would like to see he potential of the location.

Happy investing!!!!

Happy invest in BM area? You must be crazy. The subsale is moving well? I am doubt. New launch project take up rate is OK, but subsale, so so only. Invest in Penang Island la.

@JC
My younger sister live in Delink, so she know the latest transaction of the house. Delink2 is even better, as they won’t face sunrise and sunset, should be cooler, same with CW. Delink2 completed next year, O.C should be ready before end of next year and the subsale will hit RM480k onwards conservatively.

With the current inflation and house price trending up, CW will have it’s subsale value at ~RM400k onwards once completed in 3 years time. Penang mainland is doing very well on attracting MNC to invest their manufacturing here, especially in Batu Kawan and Seberang Prai Utara (the two MSC territory)

Haiyah… call people crazy for what? What other people do with their money…. your problem meh Ah Dog?

if everybody got money printing machine in their jamban like you…. sure buy Penang island laa… the reality is… not everybody got maa…. but you see those who buy those apartment/condos in the island… got ROI meh? Want to chase 8% rental yield also is a fantasy nia…. unless those buy in 1980s laa…

Bukit Tengah consider very good liao… there are many genuine buyers who buy to stay and there are those who wish to goreng… well good luck to them la…

@Jay
how long oriental max take to complete Delink after sign SnP to obtain OC?

If want to invest or own stay in mainland better go for Orange Villa & Palm Villas.

@JC
Build is fast, but O.C is slow, take more than half a year, and almost 3 years from sign SnP till OC. So, let’s see how the Delink2 next year in obtaining it’s OC.

For Delink2, construction start at ~July’2010, now almost 90% completed, just took 1.5 years. S&P is at ~May’2010, deliver in 3 years, meaning at May’2013. But, i think by end of next year can get OC. I have a unit there, may be for own living in future, but want to rent out if the rent can reach RM1200/month, although sounds a bit rediculous now Let’s see how.

Believe it or not, those landed property on those good location with below RM500k will be selling very hot. Now more and more Condo are build on Butterworth/Seberang Jaya, with price ~RM300k; while more Semi-D/Bungalow in BM, with price above RM500k.

Uncle Believe!

now the subsale for semi d alrdy reach >rm550k at bukit tengah … wonder in future how to buy a house to stay at mainland … haiz

No need to look so down, with RM300k can get a good condominium in mainland already, with 1500sft, good facilities and security. Most importantly, they are build on prime location like Butterworth and Seberang Jaya.

Typically, RM1mil for terrace landed and RM500k for 1000sft condo in Penang Island; While RM500k for terrace landed and RM300k for 1200sft condo in Penang Mainland. This is going to be the market price in 2012 onwards, if prophecy of end of the world in 2012 doesn’t come to reality.

If 2012 end of the world turns to reality, then all price become ‘zero’ I think this is the only way to see price drop

Seberang Jaya area is not a good area to consider because of the high
tension cables and a majority of one community.

Then, what area is a good area in mainland?

Raja Uda…. Bagan Jermal…. Bagan Lalang…. etc etc

All great for living…

Harbour Place apartments there got expats working in Prai/Kulim Hi-Tech/Bayan Lepas renting there… Uncle’s friend rent out her 883sqft unit (fully furnished) for RM1.3k to a Japanese working in Prai !! I almost cannot belip it….

Near to Harbour Place or tropicana terrace.

Unbelieveable for RM1.3k for just 883sft in mainland.