what consequence if not fix this? I heard toilet on top of main door will cause your head “get wet”, all bad thing flush to your house.

@lala,

To spot what is the distribution of race or good bad of any of the housing areas, you need to go to the development site, then drive around its surrounding tamans, talk to the ppl(neighbourhood) that already stayed long there, i sure you will find lot of things(good/bad opinion) when you start talking and do site survey with the neighbours. Then, digest the data that you got and make your own views on it on buy or not buy

Not sure how many of you know one big problem of this projects.
If i tell you all, may be you will regret do the purchase.
Ok … here …
When you drive down from Penang bridge toward Juru toll, the project is located on you left.
Did you observe one thing hanging in the sky, ruuning long from Juru Indus park across the highway, to bukit tengah indus park?
Yes, it is the hgh voltage cable.

Pls comment.

okok, no more nonsense here! Btw, there is no cable on top of this site, and it is far away, should be no problem, compare to most of houses at Seberang Jaya, this site is a lot better. The major issue here are only the surrounding (with industrial nearby) and the fengsui for corner units and dead road.

the high voltage cable is quite a distance away and not directly cross above central way. compare to some housing project at seberang jaya or juru which is nearly beside the tower,this is consider far away.

Anyone who bought the corner unit can start to find fengsui sifu to seek for advice to overcome the issue, or you can feedback to the developer or you can don’t believe at all in fengsui, but this can be very very bad (my frenz not doing well after moved in with similar issue, only know this after hire a fengsui sifu)

I thk u can still change the door direction.. Shldnt b any problem. Jst the room at ground floor cant b used

All,

Any one already pay sign the SPA ? Ibrahim and Kim already called me on this. Do you guys have any lawyer firm offer better price than Ibrahim and Kim . Also need to confirm when should we pay the government stamping duty , lets said for intermidiate unit ( 100K 1% , 228K 2%) ? Need your help on above questions, much appreciate.

For better lawyer fee rate, see how your bank loan agent do a good jobs but can have only RM100 to RM200 in different.

heard tht they alrdy hv plan for phase 2 which is 3 storey as well.. but more expensive n more unit.

@shan
Probably will have semi-d like D-garden…the land for 2nd phase is double of phase 1

If you’re not rush for moving in, can consider the 2nd phase, it’s always better than 1st phase in term of the planning and the type of design, but need to pay more

Hope this time they can change the house outlook.

no la..according to sale person , the design almost the same, but the price is higher and it is 3 storey terrace , no semi d

@John Chor
i think if have semi-d or bungalow,probably the developer will use the same design as d-garden with minor changes.i wonder why they dont just link the 1st and 2nd phase for easier management and maintenance.

Wah lau eh….the design has been used for many many time already, De-Link 1 & 2, Merbau Indah, De-Garden, and this Central Way.

Ya, like De-Link 1 (90++ units) and De-Link 2 (71 units), both can be linked but both have their own management and security guard, two guard houses, really redundant, and not cost effective. Significant cost can be saved to reduce one guard house, and improve the landscap and garden.

In fact, 71 units only have RM6390 per month for RM90/month maintenance fee. (RM99 with RM9 sinking fun). Hire 3 guards – RM3k; 2 cleaners – RM1.5k; electricity/water – RM1k; gardening-RM1k; already RM6500, not to include the profit for the maintenance office + basic repair. Surely can’t maintain, and need to increase the montly fee.

Luckily no swimming pool, if yes, need 3k a month for maintain.

mathematically, it can’t work, worst case, just leave it no guard, and treat it like normal landed property. the expenses you put here not yet include those $$ masuk or makan by the management, 3 guards where got enough? day shift and night shit, at least need 4 guards to rotate and this not yet include each off day

Anyway, whether you like it or not, developer just build it, and you all bawah berunding and settle by your own after that, set up so called join management body. RM99 per month is just not enough.

Guards, cleaner, CCTV maintenance, electric/water, gardening consumed most $$. Adopt few trained doggy to take care the house la

so charm 1.. if 4-5 house dont pay maintenance fee, so bankrupt alrdy ?? shld b let the developer to absord the mx office fee for 1-2 year .otherwise , if no ppl move in , will hv more problem.. anyone from de link can share their opinion?

some owner will not pay and owe maintenance fee, and management makan duit, then habis la.

Yeah, really hope de-link 1 residences share their experience here as that project is very similar to Central Way, ~ similar # of units. Heard they have some problem too, i visited the interior gated environment too, the garden is really suck and renovation is everywhere.

Hope the developer can have improvement in the system, make it at least have the class of g&g, else don’t think about building g&g.

the project is good, but if management doing no good, then all will be in chaos and price of house will not appreciate. it rely on all of the residences to form good management.

ya, i think under all GnG, all are hopeful have good neighbourhood.if some not willing to pay,it will bring negative effect to the improvement of commodity. i think this management issues face by all apartment, condominium or GnG landed houses. does any rules been sets to control this?
why the developer dont just link the 1st and 2nd phase for easier management and it will be more cost effective.

i thk those who dont want to pay maintanance fee shld withdrawn themselve from buying this property from the very beginning.. else wht ‘s the point of buying G&G project . there r so many project / housing area tht no need to pay any maintenance fee

de link owner.. pls kindly give some input here.. it can b one of the factor in determine whether to go for this project or not. Personally, i am so afraid to buy landed property with swimming pool, big garden , coz i afraid once the management fail.. whole project is a failure

I am delink2 owner, very worry how to maintain only 71 units with RM99/m, next year end only can complete. Just hope to benchmark delink1 and don’t repeat the same issue, and see how to cooperate both 1 & 2 and have win win.

@John Chor
no suprise if see the same design use for phase 2,haha…using repeated design maybe this will help to reduce the sales price. the developer also seldom place advertisment to save money. dunno want says is stingy or what…haha

@shan
Absolutely agree, first few years surely can maintain, as developer will pump in some money to make it success. But can it sustain? I am currently a commitee for apartment, know all the expenses, to maintain a swimming pool need RM2k to 3k per month, it is not well maintain, you and me will not go to swim, if abandon, it become moisquito home. To reduce the risk, better go for g&g like this one, only guard + CCTV. The poor thing is we need to pay electricity for road lighting, save MPSP or MPPP money.

@shan
what if they buy for investment? dun want pay for management fees and yet want receive the rental. so it is hardly to control.

@Delink Owner
what is the sales price of Delink 2nd phase? does it already totally sold out?

worst come to worst la, just treat it as normal landed if it really fail. but…if got swimming pool + clubhouse, when it fail, then other story. abandon pool and club house need $$ too, haha

@JC
Aiyo, delink2 sold out in just one or two month after launch, early year 2010, really 100% sold out, not a joke. In fact i want to buy 2ST terrace opposite chong ling high school, it sold out not even in advertisement, so i quickly bought this delink2 which is also nearby, without knowing what the hack of this g&g concept, just thinking RM99 can buy some security only. ~RM300k++ house in Butterworth in year 2010 just sold like hot cake.

@Delink Owner
So the less facilities would be better if come to worst case senario…

@JC
The only way to control is to issue lawyer letter, but mostly can’t do one, like my apartment, management always said wana give lawyer letter, but never happen, as very tedious, who want to follow this tedious job up? Some units owe RM10k ++, never pay and insist don want to pay, how to control??

@Delink Owner
this developer seldom place advertisement so nvr knew got delink. any comment to this developer? as i also first time buyer.

I try to go to the site but can’t find. Is it the entrance at Le yuan restaurant there?

@ling
entrace Le Yuan,go straight until reach a t-junction u will see 3 storey semi-d at ur right hand side, turn right at the t-junction, then drive thru along the road until behind u will see the 4 units completed show house.

Think i just reach the 3 storey semi-D area nia.. Should drive in deeper. I thought behind no more properties and i went to wrong place. Thanks.

just put 10k for deposit for this house last week..
few units left..sell like hot cakes..
now waiting for loan approval…
to me, this house is cheaper than the other gated house..
The location is strategic…:)

p/s..is there any bumi quota for this house??no i think.

Mmmm….regarding the bumi lots, i really wondering why this project don’t have bumi lots? are there any? The explaination by developer on Delink in Butterworth was there were not any bumi buyers after 3 advertisement on newspaper, so they can release all, and guess what, more than 98% are chinese. g&g like Villa Primero also has ~30 bumi lots left (or this is strategy by developer to release those lots later at higher price, mmmmm….a tactic maybe).

@miz
How many units left? You have a good choice out of many units?

Still got RM20k discount? I am recommending my friend to go for it.

@ling
turn right at the 3 storey semi-d t-junction go until behind u will see another construction area. U can visit the developer office at sungai dua to see what units still available.

@Jay
i’m the only malay so far who purchase the house..:)

@Jay
less then 20 units i thing..i went there last three week, still got a lot of choices.but last week when there, only left back row both site.infront garden only left number 67..dunno this week sold already or not..:)

Still hv 20k discount. 75unit sold out. I m recommend my friend to buy. But not much of choice alrdy unless u dont believe the feng sui

@Jay

still got 20k discount..RM338k..additional 5% discount for bumi..RM321100

@miz
u is warganegara got 5% discount y my id also got warganegara y not discount ???

@Never perfect woman

hahaha…;p

Miz, the location of this area is near to 2nd link – Batu Kawan tak? How many minutes drive?

67 is the permanent house number of just temporary plot no.? 67 = nice

@Never perfect woman
Haha, no need to mention this anymore la, this is our Malaysia’s policy, there was a reason behind, as long as all of us can live peacefully, just hope there is a change in future when the country is matured and developed.

@CK Chew
67 in cantonese is suck! haha btw, it is not permanent house number, it is just plot #, but higher chances will be, it depend on the registration with the state gov during O.C. So, you need to calculate from left to right, right to left, bottom to up and vice versa to make you have no chance to get 4, 44, 13, 24, etc. haha

all the comments here sounds good, already called up the developer, will go to the site this weekend.

@CK Chew
Perhaps this is near to current bridge which is about 5 min drive. go 2nd link maybe quite far away. u may refer to the site-plan attach in this website, u can view the plot no of the whole picture.

@CK Chew

very far woo(if you use federal road)..this area is near to Jusco n Pacific Megamall..

OK-OK, thanks for the info, not familiar with this area.

Normally house number will be all odd and all even in the same row, but this layout shows all in sequence, that, why I’m just curious if 67 is the house no. I’m ok with 67, easy for ppl to remember…lol 😉

@JC
This developer has very good track record so far in mainland and one of the renown developer (they also build some landed houses in island too), they deliver timely and ahead of schedule. I know this from many colleague that also bought their properties. Anyway, beside saying good, there must be some bad too their finishing quality is always not that good, you need to spend a little bit extra for renovation, a lot crack, and make sure to test your washroom to see got any water leakage and feedback to them quickly, they provide 24month warranty. So, summary, no worry to this developer, their price is always reasonable with the quality (you can’t expect very good quality as the price is ok), their brand image is not as those Mah Sing, IJM, E&O, BSP, etc. So, don’t expect very good in finishing.

as the price is reasonable, they recycle the house design (which i feel still ok), and use not so attractive color (really hope they can improve in this area, and plant more tree and better landscape on their projects); they really need to change the house outlook designer btw.

@CK Chew
The number can’t confirm until O.C. Number is nothing la, just don’t get the unit with washroom on top of main door, this is very bad and whether you believe fengsui or not, please believe this at least, main door is very important, you got it wrong, very hard to renovate/cure and very bad (I am not here to curse, but just to avoid). No need to believe me, ask fengsui sinseh and read from book. (i already have two friends with main door issue, after move in, seems not smooth and been told the main door got problem, one is related to size, another one is got washroom on top)

I just comment regarding to main door as seeing some comment on this too in previous comment. I consider this when i chose my unit

Bro,

Thanks for your info, I’ve never thought of that

It only affect the corner unit. Other is ok as long as u r not buying corner unit

@CK Chew
have you went to developer office to understand more?

@Delink Owner
The developer promise can deliver the house within 3 years after sign SnP, i think the 3 years is quite enough for them as most project promise can finish within 2 years.

@JC
Haha, I think they never take 3 years to build their project (i mean 3 years in construction), they can do it in 2 years, and you can see the house nicely paint and completed. But, they always take long time to obtain O.C, this is what they really need to improve. Delink2 is almost completed, less than 2 years from S&P, but i will expect take another 1 year for O.C So, those CW buyers, once you see the house completed, can futher pressure on the developer for O.C. if you’re in rush to move in.

just went to sample house today..what i can say, i’m happy with the design eventhough it is a recycle design..:)

Ya, the design actually is good, outlook also look nice, doesn’t matter it is a recycle one. Second floor with master bed room, no need to climb till 3rd floor. It also provide plenty of room for DIY design on the 3rd floor empty space, you can make it the fifth room or make it a study room or entertaintment room also can. (but need to put a thermal resistant layer on top of the ceiling to reduce the 3rd floor temperature, i saw in Homedec fair, can reduce 1-3 degC of the room temperature during noon, it is a long term solution and cost effective to maintain interior room temp)

@Jay
the house a bit short compare to taman merbau indah. ya, i agree with u that 3rd floor empty space can be modified to be 5th room or a entertaintment room but it is quite hot in the afternoon.

Hi everyone here, is the show house ready for viewing now?
and if yes, how many units of show house built?
thanks.

@Jarden
The 4 units show house already complete for viewing. Understand from developer there will have no official launching, so no need wait for launching to view.

did the developer will put decorations inside the show house??
want to get some ideas to arrange inside.
maybe can copy if the developer did in the show house..:P

@miz
no ID for this as the units already sold out

@JC
Phase1 sold out ?
Who knows what phase 2 to do & what price N how many units ?

@Never perfect woman
the show house unit is sold out so no more ID and not all phase 1 sold out(should more than 80 units sold out). heard that phase 2 will have semi-d

Who already sign the SnP ??

The SnP fees is RM400 correct? Not include loan.

I think the sale on Phase 1 will be very slow, just left some units with not much choice. Better wait and see if phase 2 will launch soon, need to check with developer directly.

@Jay
how many unit left? mostly phase 2 surely will have price increase, if dont mind about 10k-20k increase it is worth to wait to have better choice.

@plus-9
yupe RM400 for the Ibrahim and Kim as disbursement fees during signing the S & P. I may find other lawyer firm to represent me in SnP and loan to protect my right and the charges is not much different compare with both SnP and Loan agreement after getting the discount . By the way, the Rm10k deposit is pay to Ibrahim and Kim , any withdraw charges if we choose other lawyer firm ? any idea about this ??

does anyone already sign the SNP over here ?? how is the quotation from other lawyer firm .???

Yeah, agree that we can look for other lawyer firm, but can we do that? As Ibrahim and Kim will do both SnP and loan right? if look for other lawyer, just help to review your document? If in this case, how much they charge?

I know from my friend he seek thrid party lawyer, and the lawyer said some term not side to the buyers and thus, suggest to ask the original lawyer to change some term, and the lawyer seems very unhappy and reluctant to change deal with different lawyer is troublesome and when you are in the middle)

@HJC
any idea how much it cost for SnP if we seek other lawyer firm?

@Raja
of course the lawyer firm is unhappy because they lost the business,haha…but if they do not discount or give a good price, we have to seek other lawyer firm to compare.

@Raja
did you know what term is not side to buyers? interested to know more..

@JC
Both SNP and loan agreement together around mid of RM5xxx . I think the most important is the deed of convenant as the SNP is standard , we need to review very carefully on each term. So , since there are using some ‘specify term’ , sometimes we are not quite understand and just skip it , 3rd party lawyer is the good choice to avoid this.

Ops, it is very hard to review each term, the statement is very hard to understand. Seeks for another lawyer by paying some money is a good idea, but please go for lawyer that you know or your friends or relative know, then ask for review and pay some fee, and mention the developer force to use their lawyer, else, most lawyer don’t want to review, as it is quite hectic for them with not many profit.

Finally, we heard some news on the government will set some rule to govern the community maintenance fee and facility of condo and G&G. Hope the rule is stringent.

by the way the developer did not forcing to use their lawyer… just that they free the SNP legal free so that developer wont be so headache.. As a consumer, protect our right is our duty .. so if there are nothing much different with the legal fee i rather pay more to my sure our right is protected by law.

By the way …seems like not much here is buying the CW as no voice out on signing the SnP…. need more input from you all … pls .

@HJC
for me i hvnt settle the loan part yet, so plan to settle loan then just sign SnP. would you use the developer panel lawyer for all the aggrement?

@HJC
Ha, have you checked with the developer if you use other lawyer, they will not provide you free SnP legal fee? This will cost you ‘few’ thousand extra. So, seeks another lawyer’s option is recommended, just let he/she review, and provide you some advice, and you bring it back to the lawyer assigned by developer (don’t expect lawyer to lawyer talk, this never happen you need to talk by your own)

mostly buyers (or 1st time buyer) will not care so much on the SnP, just sign, that’s it, just believe 100% on the developer lawyer, as the SnP really can’t be digested by us. just several key point need to take care, especially on the tax portion; while loan need to ensure the penalty for early settlement is as per agreed and the time is from 1st disbursement, etc. Ensure the lot# is correct, free hold, etc. that is….

haha, be carefull, need to check properly if not using developer’s lawyer. pls, don’t use two different lawyers for SnP and loan respectively, you will feel the pain (i experienced, the two lawyer just don talk, i need to be the courier :()

i think the decision to look for other lawyer is based on does SnP+loan legal fees+transfer title aggrement will be cheaper if find other lawyer or nt, if it is not no need so trouble to look other lawyer. besided this, any other advantage of looking other lawyer? anyone can share?

@Jay
Yes, we need to pay both SNP and Loan agreement if using 3rd party lawyer and the price not much different with the developer lawyer who only need to pay the loan agreement portion and disbursement fee . And it is better if we do it only one lawayer to settle both agreement

@BT
SNP is standard format , and agreed with you we need to check carefully on the term stated by you . But the different is the deed of convenant , this is non standard and must read carefully though . For example : Pls check the SNP section 2 after the preamble : => Parcel free from encumbrances before the Purchaser takes vacant possession of the said Parcel .The Vendor shall not immediately and at any time after the date of execution of this Agreement subject the said Land to any encumbrances without the prior approval of the Purchaser and the Vendor undertakes that the said Parcel shall be free from encumbrances immediately prior to the Purchaser taking vacant possession of the said Parcel. In some of deed of convenant, the vendor have the purschase to agreed that vendor can further to mortage the said land /parcel and did not undertake the encumbrances before the purchaser take possesion of the said parcel..

Today give a visit to Central Way site. 4 sample house without ID. Quality so so … without ID. With price RM338, it is ok. But one thing no good is, the fencing is direct connect to out side squatter house, with road. This make the house does not look classy. Good for new fresh grd people or low budget people. Far from luxury, just worry, is people who buy here is ‘hard core’ then the JMC will be headachge to manage well …… just my 2 cents …..

@PenangGuy
Yeah, this is LMC landed with g&g, just see how the residence make it class later when move in. Class mean nice painting, well maintain outlook, if residence simply renovate, put ugly paint (green, orange, pink, etc.), eventually it will become like kampung house with g&g. RM338k, what you expect, the price is almost equal to the Condo at Seberang Jaya.

haha, or i should say, it is cheaper than Condo (take eg. like Pinang Laguna), 1000sf for RM270k, and this CW for total buit up 2200sf, only sell at RM338k, very cheap.

Mmm….what actually make a g&g look class? very hard to put a definition here, but i think no ugly renovation, very nice landscape garden with a lot of greenery plant, and clean environment already make a g&g good enough and can ‘term’ as class.

well, i think the most important is well management by the residence there. if no one like to take up the responsibility it will become look dirty,unmanage and nt well maintain, the house will have no value later.

when i pass by Taman Bukit Kecil, i saw the outlook of this taman look goods in terms of greenery plant and clean environment. this taman Bukit Kecil also develop by Oriental Max hope CW also have such greeny and clean environment.

Hi . Penang guy cld u further elaborate abt the fencing . Not quite understand abt the direct fencing connect to squater house? I thk class is not imp . Imp is the mentality od the resident there. good neighbourhood is better than anythg else

yes… yes…. correct good neighbourhood is better than anything else

yes … people mental will determine the quality and standard of the project. If you can make it from LMC to look like high end, then very good. But it is tough. Form a JMC earlier, team work tackle hard core people, educate them to give coorpration.
I am Pg one apartment JMC, i have suffer lot, not easy. You guy make the choice

Fencing direct connect is mean, out side the comment, is no way, could be direct forest, swamp, or squattered house. It will look very messy. If out side the fence is a road and drainage, the it will more better.

PenangGuy :
Fencing direct connect is mean, out side the comment, is no way, could be direct forest, swamp, or squattered house. It will look very messy. If out side the fence is a road and drainage, the it will more better.

out side the comment???what do u mean? outside could be direct forest?swamp?squattered house? what is it all about?

@PenangGuy,

I think apartment GnG will be totally different with landed GnG. This is due to the total units in apartment are lots(average 400- 500 units) if compare to landed one(average 50- 200). The possibility to have hard core ppls in apartment is higher compare to landed GnG 😉 .

No doubt maturity of mentality, full cooperation and good neighbourhood are most important to determine “Classy”

I think the meaning about the fencing here is if your unit is at the peripheral, then your backyard fencing is also the overall fencing, which a lot of Kampung house, forest, swamp could be there, just separated by the only fencing. Yeah, a good g&g behind your house backyard should have a road before the fencing. (just imagine, the outsider can just climb over the fencing and directly land on your backyard, it can be just like no g&g already.

is there any swamp there? i don think so as don see any.

anyway, squattered houses will make your area look very ‘low class’, this is unavoidable with poor housing planning, unless their land is bought and re-develop.

this CW also squattered also haha, they should combine phase 1 and phase 2 and make the overall g&g a grand one, more units, more cost effective in building them too, maybe this is their sale strategic.

@abc
Hope there is no ah tu ah kau there and no ‘bawal hitam’. no need to worry too much also la, let those g&g with swimming pool worry, your just open an eye see hose screw up after several years the project completed, time will tell, there will be few failure cases.

@Ah Dog
A dog tongue can never provide a constructive idea, the whole area is developing and is a matter of time for a new residential to take in good shape.

@Ah Dog,

CW surrounding “ka na sai(hokkien), just see one good thing of CW –> price cheaper, the rest..hmmm..”mo gan tai(cantonese)”..

别吃不到葡萄–>swimming pool, 就说葡萄 –> swimming pool 酸 de la..!! hahahaha

Guess not …. i have decided not to but this project, just i think very hard to chg it. Price too low to be high class. I have bought Orange Villa, as my budget allow me to do so.

@Ah Dog

Those people buy land property G&G with swimming pool, they already know have to pay S/C,
so don’t worry at all……. now day people are more educated so no ah tu and ah kau.

@Ah Dog

Those people buy land property G&G with swimming pool, they already know have to pay S/C,
so don’t worry at all…… now day people are more educated so only few are ah tu and ah kau.

Buy the way, we still cant buy it, since the price is low. Even if ah too, ah kau be your neibor, the price will still can appreciate in long run. Just you dont feel that you can make it class. People educated is one think, but people selfishness is the big problem, even u are a university grad. So many house or apartment here in penang are facing a same problem.
I also worry if orange villa not manage well, it will before bad also. high risk also.

i have many fren, and some are degree holder, acocuntant. This people also dont care about the rules and renovate his own unit. what JMC can do? what committe can do? I tell you, the cannot do anything, they also reluntant to do anything to confront the owner. Too bad, we malaysia is having low mind set. Not like singapore.

Hi, i am new here. after read some of the comment, i think what AC spoken is making sence. tHE location of CW is good but the enterance is not good. dont think u can make it become high class. AC Milan, are you developer rep of Orange?

I have told you, i am a buyer, not sale person.

@Winnie the wow-wow
Pls le..share here kua why u said CW location is good???? i not see any good schools, pasar, shops except ‘Lok Yuen” restoran there and easy to access to Png bridge. Like that pun u said location is good, sure bo…

AC Milan :
i have many fren, and some are degree holder, acocuntant. This people also dont care about the rules and renovate his own unit. what JMC can do? what committe can do? I tell you, the cannot do anything, they also reluntant to do anything to confront the owner. Too bad, we malaysia is having low mind set. Not like singapore.

Well, this issues will happen to CW? possible will, possible not. every G&G possible having such issue. So plead that your own investment would not happen such issue.

Anyone know how much is monthly maintaince fees + sinking fund for CW? Did developer confirm those fees now? If the monthly fees(maintainance + sinking fund) is higher than rm100, then not worth i think cause CW without any facility but resident need to pay so high just for security guard and gardening only.

Jesica :
Anyone know how much is monthly maintaince fees + sinking fund for CW? Did developer confirm those fees now? If the monthly fees(maintainance + sinking fund) is higher than rm100, then not worth i think cause CW without any facility but resident need to pay so high just for security guard and gardening only.

monthly fees is RM90,sinking fund is 10% of monthly fees, it is RM99. near to your RM100. which is at the point of not worth…haha

Tq JC. seems like orange vila more worth then, just pay xtra rm81 to have additional facilities like pools, clubhouse etc.

@Jesica
btw i am buyer of CW,haha…

@JC
i see but is ok. Good to know this. will look for orange vila since my budget allowed.

@central
Come on la, new generation?? new generation will good shape the environment? pls revise the news regarding the 2 years old little girl run over by car, then you know ‘the new generation’ is lacking 10 years behind. This society is lacking people with a conscience badly, now people ignore everything other than money. Build a good g&g environment, wait long long.

@Jesica
Don’t feel worth it too early, haha, you will see a moisquito pool if not manage well with your cheap contribution to the management fee, unless you pay more. Maintain a pool need RM3k per month, inflation will make this figure to RM4-5k per month to maintain a pool in 5 yrs later. You will see a real orange pool there (people eat orange, and throw orange skin inside) haha

Please don’t always say the maintenance fee is cheap, or worth it or etc…you need to have a simple estimation whether what you pay is enough to sustain, can sustain or not with this monthly fee?

If you still hope for low maintenance fee and yet to expect for a lot of facilities, your mind is still not mature to own a g&g landed, pls think about normal landed house. Pls be aware all the thing inside the g&g need to be sustained by you, by all of you inside the community. MPPSP will not pay single cent for your lighting, even there is a hole on the road outside your house, you go and repair it by your money (JMC money).

Haha, if i am a developer, plan to build a g&g with clubhouse, swimming pool, landscape garden, and i will put on a price tag for maintenance fee = RM88 per month (no sinking fun, FOC), those dumb will buy it as very worth it, (cheap and big piece), only pay RM88, can have a lot of thing, buy buy buy. After completed, developer will only help to mange few month, and you all need to ‘chap sang’ lor….

@AhTu
Are you a buyer?

Hi Ken, as i say, Central Way is LMC project. Those people chatting here also LM type, we cannot expect much d. My self better stop serving this CW site, wasting me time listen to these Ah dog Ah miao words ……… no offence.

@JC
@AC Milan

JC , AC Milan :
We pay for the security as well . Notice from your comment you are buyer
Have you sign up the SPA ?

I did not buy here …. i sign up Orange Villa

@Money Fly Away
ya, i am a buyer. but not yet to sign SPA due to loan part havent confirm yet, i want to settle loan just sign SPA. no point to comment those nonsense comment as those is not true and just an assumption. u can add the fb to discuss there.

Need to start serve the maintenance fee after O.C, need to pay up to 3 months when receive key. This is a typical procedure. Wondering this developer provide any free maintenance fee for the first few month or till one year after O.C?

@Jay
Didnt heard developer mention that,should be no free i think.

@JC
Agree …..

@Hot Place
Orange villa saleman stop by to intimidate? Hey, go sell your orange ville at your own forum lah. It a very low mentality business strategy to come to this hot forum to atract buyer to your orange villa.

Lately, there is a lot of ah tu & and ah kau joint the property line as their courier due to the hot escalating property market. But now when the market cool down, all this low mentallity Ah tu & Ah kau have loss their direction and end up talk nonsense at here. They are everywhere in this blog with low mentallity comment but with no interest of constructive comment for all the genuine buyer, this garbage should be scrap out of this forum.

Hot Place :Hi Ken, as i say, Central Way is LMC project. Those people chatting here also LM type, we cannot expect much d. My self better stop serving this CW site, wasting me time listen to these Ah dog Ah miao words ……… no offence.

I think you’re ah tu also, yes, please get out of this forum and back to your Orange Villa to discuss further. I am really concern to have many this kind of ppl that talk about negative stuff to be in this CW community. thanks.

I dont buy orange villa not bcos of I dont hv money . I jst dont like the property tht full of facilities.. U cant predict wht will happen in future… U can go n hv a look at those apartment .. Is it wrll maintain in few years later

@Ah Dog/@Comment

I’m not the buyer le, just like to comment nia. If CW is a good property, dun scare ppl giving bad comments. betul tak? Unless…….haha

I can see thos ein this forum is good people. But to take care the GnG house, connt only talk big here. Question is, can you all volunteer to be JMC? JMC to work free of charge for others. Cannot count on Property manager, as this CenWay is such a small housing project. RM10,000 per month (provided all pay, but say got 25% not pay), RM7500 …. can really hire good manager? Question our self first. We want to see when developer call the first JMC meeting, 80% of the buyer to attn. If not, everything just talk big here only. Then CenWay will fall apart. Everyone just do their only prefer thing, renovate here and there, hard caore people quarrel with JMC committee, until JMC committee also fed up and end up, no one like to be JMC. sorry, i just predict ahead only, all this is just becos of our House Act is not strong, local althority do not apply straight enforsement. All is depend on those buyer. Listen to me, houses is yours, the fate is depend of you all. Just low price will have high risk. ….

@AC Milan
If u r buyer of orange villa, why r u here to worry abt cw. Shld b more worry abt ur orange villa with “low maintanance”. There is no point u come n criticised other projects, just to bring up ur “high class” orange villa. Jst respect other ppl choice, chosing an area to live doesnt make a ppl become more high class if the mentality is “low closs” instead

What i tell i already happen and i urge you all to be more coorporative to manage it well. You should not question about my intention. All is depend on you all, buyer ….. throw away selfness and participate in JMC. If no one participate, the CenWay will fall apart. I am a JMC for a penang condo, have give free service to all resident for 3 tough years. I am here to bring up awareness of you all. Talk big herew is easy, do we really have people can contribute? dare to confront hardcore people?

Hi, i am hew here. ACMilan is true. You all have to work very close to avoid CW turn to be like low cost house. coopeation is needed for GnG project. Casey have take it veru much personal. May be he/she is CenWay developer person.

this page like to guess who are who,who are buyer,who are property agent,who are orange villa buyer,who are who… who cares? any relate to this page?

I super agree with AC Milan, just go and see how the JMC meeting going on, a lot ppl shout out like hell complaining with very bad words, release all their tension to JMC committee, but when ask he want to become committee, he just keep quiet directly. There will be a lot of such people, to be a JMC committee, need very high EQ, and just ignore those residences. What is missing, the gov or law need very stringent to govern the community houses, need to penalize those didn’t pay maintenance fee, like cut off their electricity and water (same like they didn’t pay their water/electricity bill)

My experience, i ever became a JMC committee, but now no more, but still live in same apartment, but will move out soon. I nearly ‘muntah’ darah with those low EQ mind and low mentallity residences that always complain this and that, but never at least propose or give solution, some even ‘keng chao’, never pay maintenance fee but yet still complaining, when ask for the fee, they will said if your JMC didn’t do what i satisfy, i will not pay (guess what, that guy drive Toyota Cambry, a professional)

JC, pls learn if you do not know what Econ Crisis and AC Milan talking …… there are making sense of their point.

AC Milan :
What i tell i already happen and i urge you all to be more coorporative to manage it well. You should not question about my intention. All is depend on you all, buyer ….. throw away selfness and participate in JMC. If no one participate, the CenWay will fall apart. I am a JMC for a penang condo, have give free service to all resident for 3 tough years. I am here to bring up awareness of you all. Talk big herew is easy, do we really have people can contribute? dare to confront hardcore people?

how to determine this CW will fall apart? because it is low price so it will definately not well manage?the price of house is not a mark to determine alll.

Class or no class can’t see by dress/car/etc. as it is hidden inside the mind (mentallity).

Good good Econ Crisis, u are making sense. I think those people who buy CenWay, still do not wake up and listen to you and AC Milan comment and advise ……. good luck to CenWay. After this, hope to see positive and more constructive feedback from the real CenWay buyer. One point to bring up here, since CenWay is selling cheap, need to start watch up closely how the developer make the thing. This is a very good forum, if anything go wrong, hilite here, let all the buyer see it, set a day, all buyer group up and match to their Sungai Dua sale office (call along jounelist), raise banner. I think all developer will real scare and respect the feedback. The will make it better quality for you. Then in future, the JMC will be more easy to manage the site with minimum defect and problem. Think about it.

Hot Place :
JC, pls learn if you do not know what Econ Crisis and AC Milan talking …… there are making sense of their point.

well, i fully understand why they so cares about central way,gives good advice to all buyers of central way to aware those management issues. thank you

JC, just think before you comment. Pls understand the intention here ….. ‘Buyer have to involve as early as posible, hold the developer responsibility’

As ong as Oriental Max still have project running, it is good buyer team up to voice together. Make use the site here, match to their office, developer will scare !!

@JC
Ya, asolutely right. Go and see how a miracle happend in LMC apartment in Paya Terubong, it’s name is Lone Pine, only low medium cost apartment, but they can manage it till receive awards, the best and well maintain apartment, still got surplus in money for dinner/party.

i think EconCrisis and AC Milan brought up good points here on GnG’s community may have hard core ppls. Each person have their own characters, some may be mature and pro enough to handle issue but some may be not. Some ppls like to compliant this and that but never interested to join JMC. Same points here, if you’re planning to stay in GnG, you need to treat your GnG like your family. Talk easy but may be in action very hard but you have to practice it, no choice here as who ask you to choose GnG as your own stay

@Hot Place
Wah, this sounds like want to go and have demonstration. In fact, there is nothing wrong with this developer, their track record is good and people is prefer their project.

As JMC, i experience this:
Complain to Police, police say this is internal issue, settle ur self together with ur security
Complain to TNB about steal electric, RNB say this is internal issue, they is after meter, TNB dont care.
I wish i have a police ‘Gun’ then i can help JMC to enforce house rule.
As such you all have to team up, show courage to tackle hardcore people, you make face ‘Gangster’ also. There are very rich, but with bird brain.

I already have an end in mind to become at least a committee in JMC once Delink2 is completed, so my voice not only to be heard, but can influent and action taken, that’s why i bought g&g. What I interested in is need to monitor closely on the expenses, very important to ensure no misuse. Btw, i have two close friends also bought in same g&g, so we all 3 family already can be in small gang and will build more in JMC. Hope the new rules to monitor this will be out early next year and be more tighter, as per said by our minister. g&g is a modern concept, for those like this concept, make it a success one.

Hot Place :
JC, just think before you comment. Pls understand the intention here ….. ‘Buyer have to involve as early as posible, hold the developer responsibility’

yes, i fully understand ur intention of raising those management issues will face, but what is the conclusion? control who can buy the property?who cannot buy the property? surely this management issues will be face by all G&G property, i fully understand that. so? we only can HOPE that we all have cooperate community and good neighborhood. else we cannot do anything.
FYI, central way buyers ever raise complain together to developer regarding the not same exterior color to brochure. Previously some comment that “haiya, the developer will not listen to you la” all negative comment, but at the end the buyers did it. the developer listen to the complain and change as close as to the brochure color.

@Hot Place
That’s why, we need a tighter law to control this, aim to those hardcore ppl. There will be few bad apple in a box of apple, no need to care too much on those bad apple, just throw them (but in g&g, good law need to enforce and apply to those bad apples)

any one have the latest news on the SnP signing and how much unit left over ?

Hello…….to all buyer why you all comment this and that good or no good. If you like this house,location,G&G and no swimming pool,just buy it and wait for completion.We all don’t know ah tu or ah kau is our neighbour.It is only important that the developer deliver the houses in time.

abc ….. poor comment.
We have to consider before buy. Buy house to many people is for life commitment.

@BPboy

Ok….. consider about what…..?

Haha, for those never buy house before will don’t know what to consider, it is ok, just learn to make some consideration before buying a house. We all know the intention to visit this forum to get some comment (although some are totally useless), so we are having discussion here. If no need to consider, you not even need to visit forum here, like in early 90’s when internet is not popular, like it, then buy (this comment is really 20 years back mindset).

@abc
ya, agree, poor comment. no need to consider, then why we’re here?

Thanks for the comments. U guys highlighted the potential problems in JMC. The problem is not because the owners can’t drive a camry or can’t buy a house in Orange Villa, the problem is the owner’s mentality.
All buyers pls take note, we don’t need a milioner neighbour in the JMC but we need a cooperative owners and u r definately can make it!! In a condo need >100 good owners to make the change but in CW u decide it. ur vote to make it 50vs49 or 40vs50!!!

Let abc decide by him self, buy house no consider, then he may enter ‘Kapal Pencuri’. Let he will regret. For those never buy house, you should show a good attitude of respect experience person comment in this forum.
To me, talk good is ok, if talk bad, pls include the link to show prove.

Ensure we show our integrity.
abc is very ‘poor comment’ guy.

plus-9 …… i like you comment, very positive.
Buyer hand in hand …. go against the developer.

Is the road beside Look Yuen the only access road to CW? Will there be other road at the traffic light in front of the mosque?

Yeah, just need to make some friends in JMC, with those have same direction to make a comfort living environment, if can get ~30 committee members out of 99 units, then can move already.

Bad or good comment, just take it openly, and go find out yourself, drive around the site, go to developer office, etc.

Read in newspaper, there are 7 types of people can’t buy a house:
1. Still in believe the house price can drop in near future.
2. Slow in making decision, affraid this and that, once decision made, house is sold out.
3. Never believe in developer and house agent, always treat them as cheater.
4. Always see, never buy, expect to see a perfect house.
5. Believe those comment by economic professional:- property bubble is near.
6. Wait for property price to drop till valley.
7. Want to buy perfect house; with perfect location, material, layout, fengsui, outlook, environment.

Anyway, buy house is like buy stock, can’t consider too long in time. But can’t without consider, too dangerous.

Buy house and buy stock is totally not the same, house is long term investment and need to pay very high ‘transaction fee’ and timely process.

@BPboy
Boy, I will never regret…………… cos I got experience, I am not the first time buying house.
if consider,bad comment,good comment,consider again by the time the property price increase you end up buying nothing and you will regret.For those who first time buyer please don’t consider too long………

abc, provided you have holding power …. many people is young working personal. Take 90% loan for a house …. pay for 30 yrs.
Tell me, what if the house project abondant, what can they do? Cry to the sky?
How can you ask people dont consider?
They shud consider masak masak before commit.

Ya. Need to think twice before buying the property especially buying for own stay. Everyone needs good and best environment for stay. Choose the best suit your needs and of course the one you’re affordable

Affortable one? Wait for government’s affortable home scheme la.

You will never feel ‘affortable’ until you really buy it. As long as bank give you the loan, go for it, else, only can wait for LMC only.

The bank will not ‘simply’ provide loan anymore due to uncertainty of current market.

If you’re just simply buy without deep think or well surveys on the property that you bought, then you will sure regret once you found out you’re miss bought it, unless the property that you bought is very easy to sell out/turn hands.

I am back.
Ah Dog is loaded i guess …. buy house like by shirt. Buy worng also never mind.
Nothing wrong with him, just different frequency with most of us.

Not to say loaded or not loaded la, as during your early plan of buying property, you surely will lock your choice to certain location, which is not far away, once the location is met with your choice, just consider the pros and cons on the project itself, then can buy (or not buy) already. This project overall is good, as per discussed in early comments, just need to go validate by yourself.

Another pros to seriously consider, this developer already has at least 4 gated and guarded projects on hands, track records, good or bad, are fine, most importantly they should learn from mistake and make it better.

i am doubt, why this developer want to build so many g&g projects? more profit than normal landed? as after completed, still need to headache with the management, hire manager, form JMC, the public facility like tough & go, and ‘after sale’ service and complain. but normal landed once hand over the key, done deal (just some complain on the quality only)

Not so friendly environment so having G&G will be much appreciable.

Just a little bit extra security, still need to equip fully with house alarm, and CCTV is applicable, if the CCTV from g&g not capture your house area

Anyone can give a figure of the S&P lawyer fee?