Orange Villa – Bukit Mertajam
Orange Villa is a gated and guarded development, a prime residential enclave beckons with its 124 units of terraces, 16 semi-detached and two bungalows. This housing scheme is located just off the ever bustling Jalan Song Ban Kheng, Bukit Mertajam. Within walking distance to schools and other public amenities, and a mere minute drives to Auto City and Penang Bridge.
Residents also have the assurance of peace of mind with the round the clock security besides reveling in clubhouse facilities such as swimming and wading pools, gymnasium, sauna, exercise corner, BBQ area, meeting room, jogging path and Jacuzzi.
3-storey Terrace
- Width: 22 feets
- Built-up Area: 3,770 sq.ft. onwards
- No. of Rooms: 5+1
- Roof Top Garden
- Indicative Price: RM 548,800 onwards
3-storey Semi-Detached
- Built-up Area: 3,915 sq.ft.
- No. of Rooms: 5+1
- Roof Top Garden
- Indicative Price: RM 693,800 onwards
Project Name: Orange Villa
Location : Bukit Mertajam, Penang
Property Type : 3-Storey Terrace & Semi-Detached
Other Phases: Orange Villa 2
Developer : Tah Wah Land
Contributed by @AhTu (17/2/2012)
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Contributed by @Orange Juice (26/3/2012)
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show house 1st & 2nd floor – beautiful. 3rd floor look so dark — black tiles. with black tiles on stair case, stair case look narrow. if power off — really can go knock the wall. Bedroom is very spacious. the original design – look up/down the staircase, the house look like cheap flat, the wall have a lot of floating wave. no dry kitchen, if fried fish, the whole house will be very smelly. if don’t put plaster ceiling and lift, the house really look very ugly. check with the developer again:-
Funeral – must get approval – no burning of papers otherwise swimming pool water will get dirty
CNY Emperor God Birthday – can pray but no burning papers and jossstick – will dirty the swimming pool
Swimming Pool – as long as, the owner is ok, can bring relatives and friends to swimmping – mgmt don’t bother
House color — all must same color – every 5 years can change color but every house must agree to one color
Renovation – cannot do out renovation. Indoor don’t care
Plants – cannot have plants.
Pets – cannot have pets
Indoor design — cannot change anymore even there are complaints. want to change, have to change ourself after get OC. S&P cannot do anything already
Developer said Palm Villa is not that strict – received a lot of complaints. When imposed strict rules, received even more complaints – developers said susah to entertained so many peoples and push all the issue and blame to guard for not doing a good job. Palm Villa guards always kena sack from the mgmt.
Anyone take some pictures of interior?? Mind to share? Maybe send to admin to post it up.
just wonder did those ppl meet up? such as ah tu, winniewowow
this forum is so damn hot, and so passionate wanna meet Tah Wah big boss.. not sure ada meet tak?
I also tried searching for the lady in red rose as well as orange juice but didn’t c anyone.. wonder all of u managed to meet.
Anyway, I agreed with some of u, the color is not nice. not the same as the display model which is the brown color. Though the developer may not entertain us issue rised up on structure or others, but at least they should listen n accept our comments n feedback on the color scheme..coz we were given a false info judging from the model n broucher which is featured brown instead of such a dull color. hope we r here not only talk talk in this forum but at least make an attempt to bring up our concerns to the developer. whether they would accept or not is a separate matters.
I felt a bit disappointed after visiting orange villa today…
1. The exterior color is different from what I have seen in their brochure
2. The hand support of the staircase is extremely lousy.
3. The fence at the roft top garden is too wide and dangerous for kids
4. The Landscaping of the show house is not as green as what I expect… “Green” is very important to the impression of the whole project…
I hope that the developer can take into consideration to improve these matter…
Anyway, I like the roof top decoration with bookselves especially the wall paper…
@orangeee
I think the developer are not telling the truth. He said all orange dot are sold and the houses is selling like hot cake. Then, I ask where is 20% reserve for bumiputra. One lady said no reserve for bumiputra. I said how can, not reserve for bumiputra, that is the rules. Then, I said 20% of the orange dot are reserved for bumiputra, how can you said sell like hot cake. Then, I ask, where is the retention. One lady again said no retention. I said if no retention pond, this place sure flooded. Then, one guy quickly (he said is the chairman of Palm Villa) said, the retention pond is under the road. One visitor lady then, said the retention pond is near the swimming pool !! the sales people there all not telling the truth .. . then another sales guy said retention pond is near the swimming pool.
You are right, the hand support staircase are extremely lousy. if add 1.5 storey more, then the house will look like low cost flat.
The brochure and the actual house is totally out. SUCKS ..
@orange manic
You can talk only in this forum. The developer will not do anything as S&P already signed. Too late. He said building materials have been ordered. Anything want to change, change ourselfs after getting the OC. I wanted to sell mine at RM518K. Anybody want, let me know.
@lost
Wat unit you bought. I am planning to get second unit for my daughter. Faster, if not I will book today.
Lost, dont sell to Tan Pek, i want to buy from you RM560K since developer already raise the price to RM568K. I want buy for my DonnieWowWow ….. quickly let me know your contact before i buy from developer. Haha.
I was there at 2.30pm and looking for AhTu, Juice and Grace …. like crazy wowwow and asking around, who is Tu, Juice, Grace, TanPek …. buy unlucky can’t meet anyone.
I like the corner house, buy the actual house, i think i need to get ready a lot of cash to reno already.
Today one banker told customer that those who buy facing poor view, those grass field (common area) in front of the house can be make use buy the owner. I told her not to misslead, if the one who buy this really do this, then JMc will be very hard to control d.
Some more she is not TahWah sale person, she is just a banker.
@lost
how about the workmanship? is it really so so? from what i understand retention pond is required for housing with more than 30 or 40 units onwards…i guess their sales persons are inexperienced seems like they don’t know what they are selling? near swimming pool means near some of the houses too if according to the site plan…anyway, thanks for the sharing this information. i will go to see also before making any further comments over here….and also waiting for Ah Tu, Winniewowow , etc comments too
Actually i have bought a few nouses include Penang and Kl Mont Kiara area, not much thing we could complain during this period. But i would still play my role as one of your Purchaser Members. But i am still particular of resident mindset and behavior. GnG mean, we all share all the common area. When hear some people comment who deviate from GnG concept, i will jump in. About the show house, as long as not too bad or ugly, i am OK.
On the overall colour, i am Ok, as i have a unit of house in penang in full white. Look class.
Orange Villa look class also with today colour. I am ok with it.
As for the actual show house stair case holder, it look ugly, hope Tah Wah can chg to wooden hand holder. Not deliver this lousy metal with paint holder.
As for the aircon piling run on the ceiling and expose out, it is totally cannot accept. 100% sure this will be the item i strong complain to TahWah. Where got people deliver aircon pile like this. Cannot expect buyer to build plaster ceiling to hide it. I may not put any plaster ceiling. Sure this will be the No#1 complain item from me.
I was wondering why TahWah dont conseal this air con pipe inside the wall? techinically it could be easily done one.
well…. the gathering didn’t work so well. I’ve talked to Orange Juice, maybe we should meet up another weekend somewhere else to share our opinion/impression so far, summarize it before bringing up to Datuk Hong / Tah Wah sales.
i was quite frustrated and upset just now looking at the workmanship and the wall changes issue, plaster ceiling issue and staircase grip issue…for some points, i had convinced myself to tolerate but looking at the house now, we need to throw, at least, RM200K to renovate for a decent interior design before we could stay in.
If we gonna fully renovate it, I think the total cost including the house will easily reach RM 1Mil.
They rushed the show houses too fast, apparently, there are still a lot of touch ups required…
hopefully by time it will change my mind.
oh yeah, about the backyard, the grass you see is not what you get, you will only get red earth and it is up to you to decide what you and JMC gonna do with it.
Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
9. Extra lighting point for toilet wall (above basin)
10. Swimming pool deepest height should have at least 5′
11. Gym room should have at least 5 treadmills.
12. To have a convenience store inside the Club House, to be run by JMC.
13. To have some structures/color related to orange. Otherwise why we call it Orange Villa, since it is located in Papaya Street?
14. To have marble corner shelve at shower area
15. To give buyer option to choose for solar heater
16. Recycling collection room for community
17. Enforce waste separation that used to be done in Japan.
(Burnable, Not Burnable, and Recyclable)
Burnable includes Food Waste; Not Burnable such as plastic and so forth, Recyclable are materials such as papers, cans and so forth. We can get Eco’s NGO to guide us on this.
Hope OV residents won’t give excuses and complaint troublesome / “Ma huan”. Don’t be lazy
18. Main door width
19. Roof top balcony’s wall between neighbors is too low, although is good for friendly neighborhood during celebration but security and privacy is at risk (JUST IN CASE, any break in, the thief can pass thought neighborhood easily from the balcony) might need to further extension with glass partition.
20. Provided staircase grip is hollow, not safe and horrible looking, request for more solid grip.
So as balcony guard on the roof. (especially corner unit, shakes easily, very dangerous)
21. Workmanship Improvement
22. Door at roof for air-cond maintanance. (like the front glass door to access air-cond compressor at the show room)
By the way, I’m ok with the exterior color, it doesn’t looks bad as some of you guys mentioned.
@Alice
In my taman, I have seen 2 funerals and both inside our G&G. I don’t think it is a big issue and I’m sure the JMC will be compassionate and allow this. On the car parking for 3-4 cars, you might want to consider units that are near to visitor car park. Easy and within walking distance to your house. Units that have long car park or face the side wall of the gated community also has the advantages to park more cars. another solution taken by one of my neighbour, he bought small cars (smart for two)
@hybr1d3d
Whatever feedback listed usually will not be entertained by developer. Reasons are, it involves a lot of work like new plan submission and etc to relevant authorities. This will delay project progress. One day delay will cost a lot of money as you know bank will pay them progressively based on the % of completion of the building. So, save your energy and better plan out your renovation to solve things that you don’t like. But good effort in listing the checklist. It will help the developer to take note for next project. Some of the commentators here should be from Tah Wah.
Shall we set a time to meet again today? I think we have to meet outside, too many people in the show house, dunno how to recognize who is who …
@Orange Juice </a
either meeting at the show house or outside would still have problems of identifying who are member of OV as public area will also be lots of people so won't be able to recognize each other. I would suggest that those who wanna meet either bring along the OV t-shirt hold it with u (if dont want to put it on) for us to identify each other. It would be good to meet at site so easier for us to cross check with developer before drawing any conclusion. for example, I did ask the developer on aircon piping running across the ceiling, what i was told that the original is not supposed to be like this as the owner of the house planned to "
ungrade" it. This is the axact answered I was given. So, we will have to seek clarification and confirmation from the developer again on this.
We can use the checklist to start our discussion, vote, from there…
I will be overseas tomorrow so i really hope that we can meet today at the site. this is the right time for us to meet together..
5pm ok? at least not too hot.
@lost
never try never know. they can tell us all sort of reasons but we must start somewhere to pull our buyers’ efforts together to highlight our concerns to developers.
I like to hear from Ah Tu’s comments but wonder why he is missing from this blog? r u from a developer side? he..he..
@orange manic
I don’t think Ah Tu is from developer. He gave a lot of impartial comments before. Just may be he was away and couldn’t provide feedback promptly.
By the way, in general, I am quite satisfied with overall quality, except the exposed piping (or cable) on the ceiling, it means plaster ceiling is inevitable. Other that that, I think I am OK with it.
@WinnieWowWow
I were there until 2:40pm and not seeing any group discussion / meeting, so, went back with dissappointment. The stair case handle and workmanship are really sucks. Can see the output is from rush work.
@orange manic
Agreed with you. Need to keep on give pressure to developer.
@Orange Juice
Is today’s meeting on?
@WinnieWowWow
yesterday, i did not ask the developer how much the price after launching. I will put on-hold 1st until next few months. See market value. wow, look like i’m doing investment in property — ha ha
@jerry
Jerry – don’t only listen to my comments. Workmanship is more towards people appetite. People who calculative will have a lot of comments on the workmanship. but be prepared a lot of $$ for indoor renovation. just look at the staircase, you will pengsan.
@WinnieWowWow
if want to change the stair case holder, need to also change the tiles. because when removed the steel, the tiles will be broken. I estimate about RM30K just to redo the staircase holder and the tiles. for the plaster ceiling, it is not stated in S&P, so we have to do the plaster ceiling ourself, estimate about RM25K. The original house color is not bad. The showhouse color is bad (black) on the 3rd floor & staircase. if no power, sure go knock the wall.
@orange manic
after he saw the original house — he pengsan liao
I will go there find orange manic at 5 pm
@Grace Mr/Ms Lost, I think u better get lost lah…cakap seja, no action. U say u wan to sell. Now don wan. Siok sendiri. Cakap song song…I think u r a person which cannot success anywhere. No commitment, how people can trust u.
how to recognize you?? i will drop by by 5pm if you guys are there.
anyone coming besides orange juice?
Tan Pek, agreed with u. Lost=Getting No Where.
The selling price now is RM588,800 Type B (with RM10k discount). Tomorrow, no discount.
Bumi lots they also sell. What I understand, developer just need to pay a Tabung for Bumi the 5% discount if the bumi lot is sold to non-bumi. It applies to any project.
Lost, dare to disclose which unit you bought? People wanted to buy, or you are BH durian?
as i suggest, bring along the OV t-shirt with u for identification. u dont have to wear it but just to bring along put on the table. whoever sees the OV t-shirt on the table will be where we are…..
just came back from OV…very hot leh just now..workmanship totally cannot make it…reminded me of tambun indah pearl indah/villa show houses…especially the aircon piping…same shits…with prices at least half million ++ and such workmanship, is a really a no go for me…seriously whatever you all wanna say, many of us were disappointed because this seems like a brochure projects. look fancy in the brochures, but real works are still some way off…this is first tah wah projects at least try to do better la…next or subsequent how buyers going to have confident liao? GNG concept projects are quite less in mainland…i guess i don’t have much choices for now…i think only millionaires can buy OV now, 568K + 200K = 768K…but millionaires also buy island landed already still care about this so called golden road in bm meh…concept does not apply to real works, long way to go for tah wah…if wanna compare to local developer, metrio development, airmas, to me now better especially metrio although they are new and completed not more than 5 projects but workmanship still ok….airmas no need to say lah, experienced developer…compare with DNP a bit incomparable because DNP considered bigger company…parent company is wing tai asia (Singapore listed company normally venture in retail business)…
Are we going at 5pm today ?
@jerry Jerry. Good comment. Go and buy elsewhere.
Anyone here… I am now at the site
@chin
Since you are there appreciate if you could check with the developer on the following:
1. I have been informed that there’s an upgrading package for the air condition piping. Can you check out the cost involved and when to make payment?
2. Is there plaster ceiling being provided?
Thanks a lot
M here waiting
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Where r u
coming back, wait
Orange juice, we u here waiting, u here?
I am on black shirt but went out to buy cigger. Which one is you???
@jerry
good comment – hopefully you did not purchase. this is chinese style developer. this is lesson learn from me. 1/2 millions house should go for branded developer – like Mah Shing, Ivory,IJM, DNP, SP Setia . . . if you are looking for a house that is more 1/2 millions. Someone ask me to go see DNP – BM Utaman and IJM – Sactuary garden at Bukit Mertajam. They guarded but not gated. Guarded should be ok. was told you can do whatever you want — not like G&G – everything follow rule — my friend laugh at me – pay $$ still have to follow their rules. my friend said next time, people at OV will be like the people in the S’pore movie — FOLLOW LAW !!
V r sitting here waiting for u
@OVian
Bumi lot can only sell after the developer advertise 3 times in newspaper and when 80% of the house is complete.
@lost
Can you get a swimming pool from “Branded” developer with 1/2 million ?
I chet w the developer. They admit show house was ready in short time. This is the minimal spec they can provide. They surely will provide better quality for the other house.
Overall I still quite satisfy with what they provide. No regret at all !!
@lost
Lost and Jerry,
first and foremost, you should decide what you want – GNG or non-GNG. If you want GNG, no matter where you go, you need to adhere to certain rules, adhere to rules doesn’t mean you have no freedom.
then, you should know that you should not compare with Airmas, IJM etc. For example – Airmas Taman Gemilang, it is easily more than 700K ++, and you still need to do renovation. So it is not apple to apple comparison. For DNP, if you like the surrounding and environment, by all means, pls go ahead to purchase over there. I had been DNP properties at Alma, but my problem is too far away from bridge, in this sense, Orange Villa is perfect for me.
Another thing, we can’t expect developer to give everything to you, even Airmas Gemilang, if you want to nit pick, you still can come out with a comprehensive list to complain. So, i think if you really can’t stand this project, you should move forward and look for others. And, having said that, definitely tah wah needs to improve the workmanship, And, i don’t like the staircase holder too, but i think they give you 2×2 tiles at roof top (covered portion) and 1 x2 tiles at open roof top, then why not we compliment them. And, by no means I am rich, do you think RM0.5million is really that BIG that you can get all good stuff, I don’t think so.
Anyway, i think you can still continue bitching about how about is Orange Villa, but the better way is to look for a taman that suits your needs.
@manutd
typo error
Anyway, i think you can still continue bitching about how bad is Orange Villa, but the better way is to look for a taman that suits your needs.
Purchaser will form a closed group at Facebook, next gathering will be next weekend, another gathering on 1st may. Details wait for orange manic to announce.
Hybr1d3d will prepare laptop for video conference for those not able to attend. But purchaser need to come gathering at least once, in order to keep informed in the loop.
Lost, you still didn’t respond to my acceptance to your offer for sale RM518K? Just siok sendiri?
Hi winnie here …. just read the forum since yesterday, i have miss out a lot of activities. Count me in for coming gathering.
I think ‘lost’ have chicken out’ he have no unit to sell me as he have price lower then market. But still want to talk big.
Regarding the house quality, beside you all apply pressure to developer, i could help to press from authority side. (This is the advantage of you all purchaser to have one experiece JMC in your team) hahaha …….
Stress again, i am very unhappy on the actual house quality …. stair case holder is to much cheap stuff as we pay RM0.5-0.7 million for a house.
@manutd
agree with you…everyone have their own opinions…you are trying to justify your buying and i understand that but really with additional 200k to spend for renovation you can go for terrace landed in island…this is fact….among developers you commented, you forget metrio development…they are not that well known as compared to dnp and airmas..but they have completed few projects…their name mostly associated with cendana in juru…latest completion is residency cendana guarded only concept latest price about 500k for semi d and 620K for bungalow (apple to apple comparison)…but certainly their workmanship is better than OV if you bother, you can go and see yourself…if you think concealed piping, staircase handle, wall finishing are extra efforts from a developer, i would not agree with you…i don’t ask for everything i understand that but to me all these are basics..except if you want to compare with tambun indah, then you win…why can’t just accept people opinions? try to think broader you would know why some are disappointed with the show house…i saw the site plan, no retention pond shown.i understand retention pond is required for housing with at least 30 or 40 units…and yeah if you bother, you can check it out as well…and don’t tell me the swimming pool is the retention pond…or near the swimming pool…because i don’t see any space for it….there are good things about OV, good location i must admit…prime or golden area if you like and GNG concept which is the trend now in mainland….however i still hope tah wah can improve when building those other units in terms of workmanship…it would be good for all, developer and purchasers…and yeah, i think i still need time to look for a taman that suits my needs though….
@lost
it just happens that coincidently both me and you feel like being tied up to the strict rules in OV…but i do agree especially on exterior renovations that will make whole taman looks nicer but maybe other small rules i could not agree which is why guarded only concept might suits us better…i am just commenting based on what i see and comparing based on what i know…although opinions might not sounds nice to most of the buyers here but i believe i did comment with responsibility…thanks manutd, actually i am a liverpool fan! haha
guys n girls,
i agree with some of ur comment lor especially on the staircase eh handrail eh material looks si pek cheap n bo sui lor, the air con paiping show out 1 oso looks very ugly n not make sense too lor… developer should not expect buyer to renovate by putting plaster ceiling to cover the aircon paiping by themself lor..how about if the buyer no plan to do plaster ceiling 1? how lam liao lor..
I’m not awared that we will get a line of red brick only as a divider to separate the house backyard from the walkway or if for semi-d unit, a line of red brick too to separate the semi-d houses to the neighbour house? is this true? how about the hedges plant that the developer promised earlier? no hedges plan on the backyard or side of the corner ot semi-d house liao ka? if this is true, then it is a serious issue liao i think la..as less greenery in orange vila liao lor….do let me know if u know on this stuffs lor…i will call developer tomolo to check on this oso …….
@It’s me
yes, you can…dnp and ijm projects you can still get houses with swimming pool…both semi detached houses..of course if you think this is not apple to apple comparison then it is fine…
@jerry
@jerry
I went to cendana residency before i decided to purchase OV. Cendana is cheaper some more with Bungalow, but the trade off is location. So for me, I justified with location. If you are OK with cendana, then no problem.
As for renovation, example for cendana, you will still need to spend $$$ for reno. I am not saying that you can’t have your opinion, but I think the way you justified things are not fair. You said OV needs 200k for reno, don’t you think you need similar amount for Cendana? Handrail for cendana also no better, and no aircond piping too. So, my point is – if OV is RM500K + 200K, you shld consider other project – housing price + renov cost too.
Yes, I try to justify my purchase but I am confused your way of comparison – not apple to apple. And I said, Tah Wah needs to improve their workmanship and there are lots of things to improve. But every project also has things to improve.
Anyway, good luck for your house hunting.
dun woli…i m not from developer la..i m 1 of the owner like u ..hehe… i really like a greenery hedges plan as a house to house divider for semi-d or terrace house eh backyard from walkway as what developer told me b4 i buy the house in orange vila lor…if developer change their plan n just give us a line of red brick to make as a “divider” ..then really make me disapointed to this project liao as developer not keep their earlier promises… i hope developer wil give me a good reason tomolo on why now we just get a line of red bricks instead of the hedges plan…this is over half million house n for semi-d it is near to million n we just get a red brick as a divider ? huh !!! really how lam..i really hope @hybr1d3d comment is not true la…
@manutd
thanks manutd…you said you have gone to cendana and see but i doubt that…because aircon piping cendana is concealed to the wall and staircase handle also made from wood…although the staircase is not fantastic but at least better and nicer…OV’s staircase handle i don’t even want to describe…yes every houses do need renovation but to me if want to compare i believe it would be less than OV lah…OV have a lot of minor minor defects need to do before big renovation…especially plaster ceiling to cover aircon this and that…that costs you money however if other units they build ok then fine…you are right, with prices of 600K++ you can get bungalow already in cendana…but semi d and bungalow which one better? to me of course bungalow, no need to share walls at least but that’s depends on your own opinions too…i did not say i am ok with cendana, i am just comparing workmanship….cendana’s developer although not well known but they have been doing not bad projects…althought location for residency cendana is juru which most people will think foreigners ulu place but it is very close auto city and first bridge…considered not bad lah…if want compare of course OV is better….anyway, man united going to play aston villa later at 10pm…good luck…
@jerry
sorry, 11pm..
For comparison and sharing for what we found, we went to DNP bandar utama show village in the morning as they also have open house event, where we saw the three storey terrace is selling at 518 k – 28k discount, so totally less than 500k. We don’t compare the building design & room layout, just compare finishes and quality, we can see they have provided:
1) wider and taller main entrance timber door, it looks grand, standard unit also come with metal grill, buyer no need to install.
2) the staircase handrail feel more stable, it comes with timber strips at top of the handrail
3) staircase floor finished with timber, which looks more class compared OV’s, particularly OV show unit’s inconsistent steps nosing, as pointed out by @Hybr1d3d. OV staircase really looks cheap like low cost flat.
4) All the wall at toilet shower area come with a rectangular recessed with a marble ledge for putting shampoo and shower accessories
5) Alarm is provided as standard, not like OV’s alarm only for show units, and no option for buyer to add alarm.
Not to say it is better buy, as we also don’t like dnp being only guarded not gated, and its location not our preference.
I was there till 4.30pm, so I hv missed to meet u all. I think we really need to talk to the developer on the stair case. Need to do some cover up if no lift is being installed.
We have to watch out our Maintenance and Sinking fund, avoid miss use to spend on the gardening and plant, those should use as maintenance and should not use as the cost for starting up gardening. We should expect we received the house fully with plant and gardening with developer cost. Red sand and red brick is totally rejected by me as well.
I was told that we have a natrual low plant as the fence, the is the concept that TahWah told me that to make different from Palm Villas as they have too many wall fence. Orange Villa will have low height plant as natural fence.
Do remember, this plant-fence will still need standardization for entire Garden Villa, if we allow individual owner to plant their plant-fence, which mean actually TahWah will create a mess. I doubt if they know how to manage or develope GnG……
DEVELOPER IS GIVING TOO MANY FLEXIBILITY……… then will loss control.
The blame will have to go back to developer as they are not started RIGHT.
Future JMC will have to clear and pick all the shit! Sorry a bit hot here.
AhTu, since you will call TahWah tomorrow, pls help to read my comment and pick the point when you talk to them.
@AhTu
Yeah, using a brick line only for divider for house boundary, for terrace intermediate unit the back yard become “lima kaki” like shop houses, because it is all open and everyone just freely access to all back yard and houses’ back door without any obstacle, for corner unit and semi-d, the extra land is becoming more like a public land as you almost can’t see the boundary. Also over the time, brick can be moved easily, at the end all the boundary become blurred.
@jerry
HI Jerry,
I went to Cendana a few times and almost wanted to buy Arden. Thanks for pointing out my lack of detail on handrail. To me, they are the same to me as I will change as both are no good for me. And, for Arden, the ceiling has a lot of beam and i need to put plaster ceiling too. I am not saying Tah Wah is great but i think location and overall track record (with Palm Villa) satisfy me. And, I am not a very observant people and I am OK with the overall quality, may be my taste is lower…
anyway, Tropicale Residency is nice, if location is not a concern for you.
i went to site yesterday. very dissappointed with the design which is difference than in the brochure. i should admit it really look like”box’ without any design . The exterior colour make it look like low cost house. cant the developer get a better designer to design the house.
Anybody has the contact for the Interior Designer ? I really like the roof top design. Very nice. The karaoke room on the 3rd floor and the kitchen also not to bad.
I don’t know whether this will fit my unit as my one is facing the swimming pool.
@Orange Juice
u r right…i went to DNP’s show house/unit today as well…yup, the materiasl provided by DnP far far better than what orange vila gave lor..this is obsolutely true la !!!….n the surrounding lanscaping n well maintained eh hedges plan along the main road to theirs phase 3 eh 3 storey terrace looks very nice n greenery too…if this project oso got gated n not just guarded only, then i’m sure it will sell like hot cake..of course la, the price may b not 518k liao if their project is under GnG lor…hehe..The combination of building color n interior design on DnP eh show house oso really good although their build up is smaller than orange vila, DnP eh designer really know how to design n use the space n colors..i hv to admit that although i m one of the buyer of orange vila…orange vila eh exterior color really how lam n interior design/color a bit “chap n luan” lor…i not c any theme at all there…especially on its 3rd floor that came with black tiles, i can c very clear on the dust n lak sam on black floor titles, it make the whole show house looks not veili grand liao la…aiyo..as i always mentioned, orange vila eh designer really how lam, like to choose dark n not bright eh color n might be a bit no sense on the combination of color n oso not pandai how to make the color looks bright n contrast lor…..hehe…orange vila eh designer, if u c this comment, pls dun angry with me..hehe..this is my views only la…no offence, we r learning on each other too..to me, your interior design really chap n too fancy liao…may b if looks on the computer or brochure, it looks grand la but not in the actual views lor…i only like the design on the roof top that come with a small reading/library corner nia lor…hehe…
ya..it should not come with just a red brick for divider….if this is true, then we really nid to talk to their project mgr, n if project mgr cannto give us the answer on why hedges plan suddenly jadi red color bata, then we should talk to arrange a time to meet Dato Hong liao…really a bit sian when i c the comment on red bata as our house eh divider !!!!
No Ah Tu. The black color tile on the 3rd floor is to match with the AV/karaoke room. Mana ada karaoke room with light color.
But I agreed there is too much of idea the ID want to throw on 1 unit of show house. This make the house like no Theme. Macam different floor are different house.
Still some of the idea give me a good idea how to design. Like the small corner at the ground floor room.
haha…looks like u hv a good taste on the 3rd floor karaoke eh design….hehe..if u r not from developer, then u’ll sure know only developer hv their designer eh contact la n u may call developer asking their designer eh contact ma…not here la..haha…
saya sudah tanya lah, they said still under renovation. Can not disclose yet. I memang tak suka the sales team in OV. Everything I ask, they try to push to other thing else.
@PonyTail
using black tiles there really how lam la…i talked with few sales girl on this matter too la when i visited 3rd floors, they oso admit that those black tiles really make the whole karaoke room looks likes lak sam n can c lot of dust at the floor lor….hard to maintain la…unless u got maid and everyday ask the maid jaga that dark tile floor la…ur maid will sure how lam 1 la…may b 20mins nid to lap or vacum that dark tiles floor lor..hehe
And I went there 2 times, and ask who is the project manager. They told me he is not there. How come they can launch the show house without project manager ?
Glad to have finally met up with some of u..and few others buyers. at least we have a first meet up to get things moving forward instead of no action talk . For those who like to join the purchaser club, pls drop me an email at jleong328@gmail.com, will send u an invites so to link u to FB. All the detailed discussions n progress status which touch on the comments n feedback of OV will be compiled n discussed on FB.
All genuine buyers, we here all your commnets n suggestions but needs to followed by next course of action. Hope all of u make an attempts to do your part be more participative in the purchaser club to voice your feedback officially. People like Ah Tu, WinneWowWow n many more who have concerns over various expects of the showhouse, we certainly welcome u to be part of the family members of the club.
sorry, rephrase my word. they can’t provide now because this will be under a package they will propose later.
@orange manic
kam xia for taking initiative to setup the FB for orange vila eh purchaser club..but i dun hv FB n i not trust on FB too…lot of hacking techinque to hack FB too..haha..
so let me know when u all wanted to meet up, i will try to join if the time ok for me..hehe..btw, i nid to check with developer on the red bata divider first… this really not making sense !!!! if developer dun want to change exteriro color then i m ok too but using the red bata as a divider really make me disappointed n a bit angry liao…..huh…
ic…u can join the FB on orange vila eh purchaser club that @orange manic setup if u r the buyer la… to show support as a buyer ma…may b u can get the orange vila eh designer name n project manager name too when the team here go to talk to tah wah lor..haha..
AhTu ….. i felt anry and disturbing also with the red rock and no plant-fence. Tomorrow can ask them if they know how to promote GnG and give a good start for GnG project.
Manic, i also very seldom play FB …. just let me know when you have the next gathering. If do it in Island, sure i will come ….. cari makan here marr …. what to do. But still give strong support to you all Purchase Association.
@WinnieWowWow
yup ! i will ask for their clarification on this part tomolo ! Besides location n GnG concept, i bought this project because of the greenery community such as the fence will b a hedges plant n not brick wall….now looks like we will oni get red bata…worst than brick wall…. :(..this is really kidding!!!.
@orange manic
I’ve sent an email to you.
AhTu, look like both of us consider supporter of Orange Villa in the forum also start to be very angry liao.
AhTu and Winnie, I think all of us talking here all hiding behind nicknames and no body responsible of what you have said. In the end, all talk only, no action. I suggest all those interested to join the group, join through FB. If you scare your confidentiality is compromised, you can create another FB account and join. After that we can meet up and put up everybody photos. With this everybody will be more serious and give constructive comments.
@manutd
man utd leading 2-0 now ler…i visited arden too…yes ground floor need plaster ceiling to cover the beam but overall still above average, they use clay bricks and some cement sand bricks on some nimor parts…walls mostly clay bricks…tropicale residency i havent go and see lah…so far got see dnp bm utama considered good although build up smaller than cendana and OV but materials used are good,residency cendana,sanctuary garden just see brochures only also but build up very small…pearl villas also got see lah but workmanship and location not good enough…carnation villa oriental max going for GNG in this project, this developer GNG i think not so good expert ler..
@AhTu
don’t complaint anymore — just save $$ now and do your own renovation. Just because of a swimming pool, G&G, all of us kena tipu liao with the lousy design
@jerry
yes, second half starting soon…
I heard that Oriental Max workmanship also so so only, better watch out…
Gemilang is quite good, but sold out and expensive.. Cendana overall whole taman gives good feeling as all is bungalow and semi-d.
I had been searching around and last year settled on OV. Hopefully Tah Wah can improve
@It’s me
I just think it over on the swimming pool. How frequet go to swimming? maybe new new time, go 3 times a week, one year later, go once a week, 2 years later, go once in a month and 5 years later — sian liao, don’t want to go anymore …
@manutd
what about Jessellton hill and Sactuary Garden — branded developer. Are they good? any idea?
@manutd
you are right!…gemilang cannot go lah for me…cannot afford it although looks nice the project…cendana yes overall good feeling and grand…the main timber door also very big and wide for the semi d too same like bungalow, i think cendana developer metrio development not bad lah got chance to improve again on future projects (I doubt many people more about this developer, i got to know them through residency cendana project too)…airmas no need to say lah proven track records workmanship still acceptable but prices is one of the most expensive in mainland…..good luck to you on OV…man utd i think no need luck already..they can win, aston villa cannot make it one lah…nobody cleared the ball for the second goal..all just look only….haha
@lost
if I am not wrong, both not GNG. And, location is kind of further away from bridge, so not my cup of tea. J Hill looks nice… You can refer to the J Hill and P. Sanctuary section in this website.
talk too many other projects in this OV forum…i better leave already lah…nice to meet you all here…and happy OV!
Ovian, totally agreed with u. It is time to pull our efforts together to make it an official yet formal complaints. It would not help much by showing enger here loh.
@peggy
thanks, I have replied your email.
Hey, lost, oh…sori…should be chicken out or BH durian….no body wan to chai u alreadi and u still talk n talk? RM 518k. Still honor your word?
@AhTu
I fully agree with your view about the interior designer engaged by DNP is better, consistent style throughout the house, simple yet more practical design compared to OV’s design.
Afte seeing OV show house, really disappointed. I doubt how us the clubhouse and swimming pool, it might be turn out something not same as the brochure. Better don’t expect high liao.
I totally with agree with everyone that the actual unit is very disspointing. The Sales person told me what you see is what you get. I noticed the air-cond piping is being provided, so i did check with them and they say this is the upgrading package which the if the purchaser opt to take up have to top up more than RM10K. Moreoever like someone mentioned, the the distance between the staircase railings and the floor is too far apart and it is very dangerous especially with small kids around and moreoevr the house comes with so many storeys which makes things even wrost. If we need to improvise on the railings, gosh that is going to cost a lot of money. I am seriously very dissapointed with this Developer and regretted buying the house.
@TAN
u r absolutely right! The house is so danger ous for kids to live. Staircase railing n d floor is too far apart. D developer must look into this aspects. Pls help to make us proud of yr project, our home. .Tah.Wah.Group,! Keep up to your corporate tagline n motto.
@TAN
after read your comment, lucky i did not buy the house here, i think i will look for other option such as carnationa villa or bayu villa.
@orange manic
See their vision & mission statement:
“Vision
To be a developer of distinction in creating exclusive lifestyles and enriching the communities that we build.
Mission
To develop a brand that symbolizes quality and innovation in propelling the company to greater heights and becoming the developer of choice. “
All buyers, the fb purchaser club is formed nw it is time to help each other as hse owner by participating to put things in official n move fwd. Pl drop yr email to jleong328@gmail.com wit yr name n ov lot number, i wil then send u d invites to link u to our club. PLS BE REST ASSURED TAT YOUR INFO PROVIDED R KEPT CONFIDENTIAL! Some of u might worry about privacy issue on fb, it is very simple, just create a new email address either wit yahoo,gmail, hotmail, useit to create a new fb account, then email me yr newly created email address. Absolutely hassle freee! Pls also pass this msg to those purchaser whom u might know who wanted to voice Sensible comments n complaints.
@TAN
me as well. very very regret. just realise that my S&P haven’t complete sign yet. If I withdraw now, i just need to lost my deposit of RM5K. I will start look for guarded only house – forget about the swimming pool, gymn and those stupid ‘follow law’ rules. The is original house is do damn disappointing.
@lost
u may consider Carnation villa, it GnG with facilities too, the sample house under construction, i m waiting to see the house quality then make decision.
@lost
I am also very concerned with the hollow for the lift area. In terms of the design it definately look like cheap flat staircase from bottom looking to the top. from the top it look totally unsafe . Imagine the railings is so shaky (by the way most the railings are not screwd to the tiles only solder at the side which can be very risky) and the hollow are is so wide, in terms of safety is a definate no-no. I understand from the beginning the house is meant to install a lift however what i have been informed by the sales personnel most the units are not taking up the upgrading lift packages. hmmm…..i asked the sales person they say after OC you can renovate but this part definately cost a big sum of money which cannot be comprised for safety reason.
Guys n Girls,
i just called tah wah on this matter la, according to developer, there’re some misunderstanding on the one line of a red bata n no hedges plant as for the house boundary or as a divider between terrace type unit with backyard walkway n oso the boundary between semi-d eh houses lor……developer said those boundary or divider will be on red bricks too but the height of that bata will b at 18 inches la..there still will hv a hedges plant behind that red brick lor n the hedge plant will b higher than that red bricks for sure…i forgot to ask them how height will b the hedges plant liao..hmm..but i think the height should b around 2-3ft kua…my guess on the hedges plant eh height nia la..if u know developer plan to maintain the actual height of those hedges plant, then pls let me know la….if like that, our orange vila balu looks sui n greenery liao ma…..hehe…good la…
hybr1d3d :
Let’s start a checklist, shall we? list down every voices here, agree or disagree also,
Then we can call for voting later
Buyer’s
1. Change main exterior color to a brighter color
2. Brighter Toilet Tile color
3. point to install kitchen ventilation
4. aircond point
5. Permission to install Motorized Retractable Awning
6. The PBA meter issue
7. Air conditional piping
8. Stair case’s width
9. Extra lighting point for toilet wall (above basin)
10. Swimming pool deepest height should have at least 5′
11. Gym room should have at least 5 treadmills.
12. To have a convenience store inside the Club House, to be run by JMC.
13. To have some structures/color related to orange. Otherwise why we call it Orange Villa, since it is located in Papaya Street?
14. To have marble corner shelve at shower area
15. To give buyer option to choose for solar heater
16. Recycling collection room for community
17. Enforce waste separation that used to be done in Japan.
(Burnable, Not Burnable, and Recyclable)
Burnable includes Food Waste; Not Burnable such as plastic and so forth, Recyclable are materials such as papers, cans and so forth. We can get Eco’s NGO to guide us on this.
Hope OV residents won’t give excuses and complaint troublesome / “Ma huan”. Don’t be lazy
18. Main door width
19. Roof top balcony’s wall between neighbors is too low, although is good for friendly neighborhood during celebration but security and privacy is at risk (JUST IN CASE, any break in, the thief can pass thought neighborhood easily from the balcony) might need to further extension with glass partition.
“20. Provided staircase grip is hollow, not safe and horrible looking, request for more solid grip.
So as balcony guard on the roof. (especially corner unit, shakes easily, very dangerous)
// add in, staircase’s grip is not only shaky but also the width from floor is too wide. if you have naughty kids. this could post safety concern.”
21. Workmanship Improvement
22. Door at roof for air-cond maintanance. (like the front glass door to access air-cond compressor at the show room)
23. Toilet Water Tap position
One more comment about the position of water tap position. As we have seen at the show house plain unit yesterday, the water taps are all located besides WC…some very close to wall corner, making it impossible for user to put a plastic bucket below the tap to take water for floor cleaning, and etc.
We have opinion that the existing water tap position shall be changed to “hand bidet” instead (change the fitting), hand bidet is a basic sanitary fitting used to spray and clean the toilet ware once it gets dirty.
Practically and for avoidance of hacking the already beautifully laid toilet tiles, an additional water tap shall be positioned at shower area, right below the shower faucet, that is a more logical place and the space is wide enough to put a plastic bucket…
See google images for “hand bidet”
https://www.google.com.my/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1320&bih=1225&q=hand+bidet&gbv=2&oq=hand+bidet&aq=f&aqi=g4g-S6&aql=&gs_l=img.3..0l4j0i24l6.1662l3091l0l3281l10l10l0l1l1l0l100l680l8j1l9l0.frgbld.#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=hand+bidet&oq=hand+bidet&aq=f&aqi=g4g-S6&aql=&gs_l=img.3..0l4j0i24l6.4240l5512l4l5779l10l10l0l1l1l0l127l751l7j2l9l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=fabb94035ab8ad25&biw=1320&bih=1225
i agreed with ur comment on the staircase eh handrail lor…haha..i did brought up this issue to developer when i asked them on the red bata n no fence plant as house eh boundary/divider lor….the answer from developer is they’ll look on this matter la…cause really dangerous with that big lubang on the handrail ma especially if those family got small kids…if jatuh then how lam lor.. or accidentally hit the those a bit shakes handrails, then really how lam liao…that time may b developer will kena sue by house owner liao for sure la….hehe
a good developer cannot espect all owners there hor giat n will do a big renovation in their house ma..this is not fair to buyers that having tight budget for big renovation after purchase orange vila liao ma…eg, they cannot expect the buyers to change the handrail by themself, expect buyers to put partition or glass on the roof top’s wall between neighbour due to developer build a very low wall between neighbour ma, n expect all the buyers that plan to take their aircon paiping upgrade packages to install the plaster ceiling lor …not cheap lor if want to do plaster ceiling to cover all the aircon paiping that we saw in the show units, hmmm..estimated might be around 12k++ lor just for plaster ceiling nia…how lam lor…with the aircon paiping show out n not conceal in the wall, n y we need to take developer eh upgrading package liao? hehe….with developer eh aircon paiping upgarding package, then i nid to install plaster ceiling liao, if like that, then i myself better ask external contractor to do it for me lagi bagus ma….still cannot think out the good reason on why i nid to take developer eh aircon paiping eh packages later on lor…? unless the package price from developer is really cheap n cheap lor….then balu can consider la..if not, better take outside eh contractor lor…haha…
Tah wah’s designer really make the show house looks like a crab….don’t know how to design at all….no eyes to see…
@AhTu
Just wandering, did you really by the house? you said how lam how lam, but you seems to be so happy. New house, don’t always said how lam how lah .. no good lah — before move already said how lam how lam — good fengshui also run away
Developer do the lousy staircase bcos they expected owner will opt for lift. RM98K, developer sure get profit of at least 50%. remember, the developer is chinese businessman doing business.
DNP is totally different. DNP is branded and listed in bursa. if D&P house design like OV, sure DNP share price will drop ..like hell
How much do you pay for deposit? mine is RM5K (we know developer close family members), I heard everyone deposit is different .. betul kah?
@Orange Juice
all building materials have been orderd by the developer. start save $$ to do our own renovation. save one month RM5K, 2 years can saved RM120K — not sure enough to do renovation or not ..
@Tan Pek
Tan Pek – I just realised my the other half haven’t signed yet. if you want my lot, I can give you. give me your contact # and I will talk to the developer tomorrow. I just want my deposit back, the rest you can take it up with the developer. he he . . . anyway, I have told one of the sales girl that I wanted to release my unit and just want to take back my deposit and ask her to look for buyer for me, then I will give her some kopi $$.
@ABCO
ya lor……i think developer eh designer will balik tong san liao after this project…haha..
@lost
we always nid to stay happy everyday ma even though at the back we feel how lam lor..haha…always think positive way is good to our health too ma…i noticed from this blog that u plan to withdraw ur unit lor..if u know developer eh close family then u can take back ur 5k deposit ma or u can tell them n ask them to tell Dato Hong to come to read this blog when he got free time la..like that he balu tau how “hot” is orange vila in this blog site lor..haha…..i’ll not withdraw my unit 1 for sure laa..if not, i won’t gave my suggestion n views on this project to developer liao laa..limpek bo an nia eng time to li this project if i not one of the buyer la..haha..
i oso hope developer can success in their first project lor..n i m happy to c lot of buyer aggresively compile n listed the stuffs that they are not happy with n plan to raise to developer lor..u c other housing projects, mana got buyers so re sim or hot heart to complain or suggest to their developer 1 la during early stage of the the project lor…they wait n wait until dapat key balu tembak developer, tembak developer after get key time no point liao lor..will waste time nia lor..haha..but orange vila is different, at least buyers starting collecting feedback with each others now lor…u c the list being compiled in this blog then u know liao that buyers really concerns on this project too lor…this is a good la when buyers starting reunion n provide suggestion n concerns to tah wah developer lor…
in mandarin …tuan jie 9 si li liang lor…haha
@lost
i saw u r actively saying good things on permatang santuary in other blog site, hehe..may b u r permatang santuary eh spy or sales person n come here to kacau kacau nia lor…hehe…if as wat u said u know developer eh close family, then u can ask developer to makan back ur unit ma…i believe developer sure will b happy to take back ur unit cause now not many units for them to sell liao too..i heard only left 20+ units nia now including bumi-lots lor..haha…
@AhTu
Hi AhTu, have you dropped an email to manic, so that she can add you in facebook group?
Send name, contact, unit no, email address for facebook
don’t know what to say …… quality like nite mare to me …..
@lost
If Tan Pek doesnt want, my sister is interested if the price is RM518K, as offered by you. Which unit #?
@Orange Juice
not yet create a dummy FB lor n si pek lazy to create FB too la..let me know when u all plan to gather n if i hv time, i will join u all la..hehe…i’m happy when developer said to me the hedges plant will b as wat they promised b4 i buy the unit there lor..hehe…
@WinnieWowWow
i oso mentioned the quality stuffs during today call with developer laa..developer said they will pay more attention on quality of the workmanship too laa…i hope developer will not just try to paint the nice picture to me laa..i hope they really meant it lor…hehe..let c first lor..if quality of workmanship still not improve, then we all may b can buycoat n no nid to sign to collect the house key lor..haha…let developer re-fix our house eh quality then balu sign the key eh letter lor…bo pien liao ma…this is 1 of the way la if developer just paint a good picture to us but at the back no action at all n give us the same types of quality works…..hehe
@AhTu
yes, i went to permatang sactuary … my comment is the house is small and that area got a lot chicken farm – next time become flies garden. no swimming pool so beh siok. sales man there speak english – high class loh .. tak boleh tahan
@Orange Juice
Mian Tan Lah ! Ah Tu will not join you lah. He is only interested in the hedges plant only.
@Penang BMW
i cannot sell on that price and have no say on the price –sorry about this bcos my the other half haven’t signed on it. if I don’t want the house now, I need to lost my deposit and the developer will take it over. my the other half, love the swimming pool so much that she did not bother about the design. She said next time popo, chat chat, kong kong tiok sui liau lah ..
Shame on u…
@OVOV
why shame on me ??
Ah Tu and Winnie, don’t be lazy la, join FB group, I don’t encourage people to create dummy fb account, show the true color, so we can speak with more responsibility.
Ok laaa …… i will still join the FB with winniewowwow …… i dont trust FB one laaa …… 80% are not real one. Can cause sabotage also. I prefer like AhTu, we meet is better.
We can have a week end at e-Gate star buck or NewWorld Park old town ……
Most make me busy is i am the project Manager for my condo re-painting project. Kind of difficult to contribute more for OVilla. But if my project completed, then i can join d. But people in mid-land most ly dislike to follow rules, this really worry me.
the downstairs room look very small – not sure my old man/lady like it or not. Also, how come the kitchen don’t have a wall to split the dining hall and kitchen. look like, have to built the wall ourself
May be i will ask for this week all Oranger to be meet at e-Gate Penang, at 3pm, coming Saturday. Quiet and less clouded. Will you all come over to Penang? We can have a long chatting there.
Actually we did discuss about the location for next meeting, we proposed @糖伯府 near gemilang (song ban Kheng road) and I think majority people in the group are in mainland. 3pm is ok for me.
@WinnieWowWow
you all from Penang island — no wonder buy OV — bcos is so cheap compare to Penang. Strange huh – penang island people usually are very choosy on developer and they always go branded developer or good quality developer …
If you think that people on mainland like me dislike follow rule, then you go back Penang island lah .. otherwise the mainland people will kek si lu …look like like you also quite classy but how come you choose a developer that got no classy ..
I choose Orange Villa as i wish tom know why is this so call ‘Lost’ …… what to see why u dislike to follow rules.
@WinnieWowWow
i do understand yr concerns but the privacy setting of OV purchaser club on fb has been properly set up. Hope at least can ease yr worries. Look fwd to rcv yr email then. whilst we appreciate yr busy schedule n heavy duties as a project mgr, i reckon d OV is equally urgent n important judging from d huge complaints n disappointment n also very time sensitive, that is why i dont mind travel to mainland to meet up although i live in island n work outside northern region. With yr experiences in JMC n connection wit local authorities v r very sure that u will share a valid advice . In my opinion, the upmost important thing is to sort out the quality issue wit developer n d basics items are meant to be included such as..aircon piping issue, ladder hand railing issue, etc, those r not supposed to be listed in d upgrading package if the developer had planned to do so. Dont u agree.
As for the GnG rules which i realized tat u r particularly have concerned about, those will naturally comes into d topic of discussion once d above issues r sorted out. We look frwd to meeting u irregardless whether d nxt meeting is held in bm or island.
Winnie, you don’t trust FB. No worry….. Join the team meeting at Gemilang to show you are the buyer. You sound like avoiding to meet up with the team, i starting to feel that you are a phantom. i am sorry if i am offended you in any where.
Guys n Girls,
i think no nid to worry on the rules as for now first laa…hehe ..i recall i did ask developer long long time ago on the rules n oso how n when the JMC going to setup lor….according to developer la, when OC obtained, developer will manage all the rules in orange vila for the 1st yr laa…then JMC will only b setup when enter the 2nd yr si laa….JMC will b voted by the orange vila eh residents laa n JMC will be like our state eh yi yuan or “DUN – Dewan Undangan Negeri” lor…hehe..oni JMC members got power to change the rules in orange vila la but definitely they nid to vote among themself first laa…if > than half of the JMC member said OK to change a rule, then the rule will b changed lor…minority followed majority 1 la…hehe.. developer got few seats in JMC too la, may be 2-3 seats are from developer laa..so 1st year is veli important lor since developer char fit the rules ma on that period…but i believe developer sure will jaga baik baik the rules in the deed of mutual agreement la, if they not keep the rules hor sei, then it might impact the strata title approval later on laa..they oso concerns if strata titles cannot keluar too ma…haha.. unless they dun want to do business liao la…that is different story liao la..haha..
yup, u r right on the permatang santuary la…i’m among the few early early birds went to survey their site n the surrounding area n oso their master layout plan…hehe…when i went to the site, that time just c the O tanah eh chia ti lu a small part of tanah nia…hehe
at last i choose orange vila la cause of its strategic location n its accessibilty to good school, pasar n shop lots n oso penang bridge….i always put location as my first point la when i buy house..hehe…swimming pool n club house not so important if compare to the location la …but if can hv modern n classy looks eh swimming pool n club house for me to enjoy life in there, then of course lagi best la..haha..
@OVOV
Hedges plant good ma as be our house eh divider ..hehe…greenery n nice…veli sui later on ..haha.. our orange vila will look green green with lot of hedges plant n trees inside our gated perimeter lor…song lor…for the rest of the concerns raised…hope developer will listen n make improvement on it lor..then lagi sui liao that time..haha….
if developer not open minded n just feel bei song when ppl complaints to them n they oso not making any improvements on this first project after hearing lot of ppls eh concerns n suggestions, then i foresee nia la..meng harap their 2nd project will get support from potential buyers later on liao la especially when their new project is not in a strategic location la..lagi hard to sell la if they’re cannot maintain their good name in this first project…developer not stupid laa, they oso want good name in order to survive in this competitive property world ma…only ppl that can accept other ppls eh reasonable comment on the mistake make can become stronger nia lor…haha..
This is the worst developer I had seen so far….Worksmanship fit for low-cost housing….
No regards for safety…It’s a rip-off if you consider just the price we have to pay minus renovation cost…All that the sales rep can think of is “you all are going to renovate or put up plaster celling anyway”…
most of us i think would try to do as little renovation as possible after spending so much for the house…
Basically, we all got cheated….
Moral of the story….check out the show house first before signing the SNP….esp for house more half a million ringgit…
We can complain to the Housing Ministry…
Although this project will not be affected, subsequent projects of this developer will be under the radar of the Ministry….
@NewBuyer
i agree with u lor ,,,developer should not espect the buyer will going to renovate later on n chin chin chai chai do their work such as given laozy eh staircase n handrail n no plaster ceiling if wanted to upgrade air con piping…as i said earlier ma, not all the buyers hor giat 1 n if hor giat pun, not all buyer plan to do big renovation ma…haha..i support ur comments on developer should not said like that laa….really how lam if developer said like that to the buyer or customer lor…hehe
@NewBuyer
The other day i was being told by the sale person that if intend to take up the air-cond piping, then the casing/piping will be apparent on the ceiling. what is the point the of having consealed piping and at the end we have to do the plaster ceiling. I have not come across any Developer for high end houses which delivers houses without any plaster ceiling. This is ridiculous!!!
I agree we all got cheated by the attractive booklets. I dare not further recommend this Developer.
TAN, my existing house has a aircon consealed piping for 5 years and at one fine day, it spoilt because the was leaking in the pipe. The problem is, which part and need to hack the wall again? We end up connect thorugh another pipe which look very urgly.
I see the point why the piping in the package not consealed…..due to this reason.
@Penang BMW
The aircon piping that not concealed inside the wall is good move laa…i c the point too on why developer make the aircon paiping apparent on the ceiling in their show unit la…but at minimun, developer should cover it up with plaster ceiling ma…we still can c the ceiling eh beams without plaster ceiling in show unit ma…taken the word by sales rep during my visit to show unit time, “wat u c is wat u will get”…if buyer choose to not take up the aircon paiping upgrade with developer, then they oso will get the house with no plaster ceiling 1 meh? if this is true, then how lam la..more than half million eh house come with no plaster ceiling..basic 1 pun takdek…. not making sense laa…that y ppl complaint la…i think developer should give the plaster ceiling la no matter got upgrade aircon paiping or not..if developer wanted to save cost on this plaster ceiling then really teruk lor….aiyo..that is y ppl complaint the show unit looks like low class house lor….hehe
Hi guys, i just wondering anybody get 100% loan finance? Any bank offer loan finance till 80 years old?
If you all really want to put huge pressure to TahWah, i can arrange journalist from KwongWah, PenangProperties and Star to their sale office, and wait for you all to carry banner and shout at OrangeVilla. Dare or not, legally is allowed. I believe Mr Hong hear this, he will feel panic. And his Tambun Indah ex-partner surely will laugh like hell ……
Tell me, if you all want ……. For you in for, i am from one political party in Penang !!!
i would advice you all, to call up your lawyer San Associates, to see any legal advice could be given. Like write letter to MBSB or bank to instruct to halt release the loan. You all should consider this point as most of you all have not release bank loan. This will pressure Mr Hong stand up and calrified and provide better finishing.
I am a buyer as well, i am ready to hang my first 10% to protact my remaining 90% payment or loan. When we plan to do this, we have to be ready to go public … news papaer or internet news. If you want, i can prepare one email to talk about the bad quality of TahWah, i press (send out email) will let entired Penang FIZ, Kulim High Tech Park, Penang Science Park or entire Penang Properties sector to know about this stupid offer. If Mr Hong still not response, may be this will be the end of Orange Series.
If I am Mr Hong, i will publish clarification or provide better finishing true email or thru this forum to all angry purchaser.
Becos, we feel have been cheated. In fact, i have not see any other forum could condamn developer so hush like that !!! Purchaser is really angry !!!
Could this be the end of TahWah or could this be the only project for TahWah, all depend on Mr Hong now.
I am start writing letter to my bank now and lawyer.
To experiense purchaser like us, 500K to 700K house in BM, should have almost received renovated-free house to live in. (mean almost no need reno). A lot of house if you call your self high end, you have to prepare this. You MUST prepare this. Or else, purchaser feel being cheated. Only government low cost house will not have any good finishing. How can i accept such an air con pipe to be hang like this. A big joke laaaa TahWah.
I do not call you self is working of high end project, but actually you are far from classified as high end. Shame of all TahWah purchase.
as far as i know laa..if u r looking for the bank that cn give u the longest tenure period by age 1, u can try to ask Affin bank lor..i heard Affin can give till age 80 last time la but now may b now they reduce it to till age 75 lor..try ask Affin n c..hehe..
@Strike TahWah
wow…look likes u r veli angry lor…may b angrier than angry birds i think ..hehe…calm down ..calm down la…if asking our bank to stop payment to developer will cause us to bear late payment interest later on lor..how lam lor if we buta kena late payment interest later on ma..not fair to us too laa …since u r so angry, no nid so chong tong 1 eh la…my advice is to support the purchaser association lor…..hehe…u can send ur FB account to @orangemanic la n become one of the purchaser association eh member ma…hehe..again calm down..calm down…hehe
Since the unit has been shown to the public and OV buyers, I think the developer cannot simply change the design of the house as it will be unfair to others. Some buyers/potential buyers may already like the colour/design etc.
Threatening the developer is not the way. Now the house not yet build how OV buyers gonna write letter to lawyers/banks etc? Developer’s lawyers surely stand by developer’s side and bank surely wanna release money to developer fast to earn interest. Earlier buyers request developer to put aircond pipe now given this option but still not satisfied. Buyers can choose to install aircond pipe themselves if don’t want those given by developer. Better establish good relationship with developer or else buyers get nuts in the end. Some buyer has political background but don’t forget the developer may have much stronger political link (and money) than you.
Ah Tu,
need you to educate me a bit lar.. is it common for developer to provide plaster ceiling ka?
Ha, the angrybird really angry now….. pls stay cool. I think developer will listen to us one. But when i think of the staircast holder, lousy holder, i start to feel i have make a wrong choice.
What will be our swiming pool and also the high-end gym quality ….
My 2 cents …. normally when a developer sell their house as high-end, normally will come with plaster ceiling and most of the think be conseal. If they do this for all owner, then we could have better standardization to the GnG. Or else, A will hetch here for aircon, B will drill they for aircon. The the GnG will not look good. As i say, a GnG quality, very much depend on the first managerment or developer. If the developer not encourage standardize, then problem d. TahWah should do all the air-con point for a few main room, might not do it for all the room.
Just my 2 cents.
@WinnieWowWow
Again, everyone is entitled for opinion, so do i. Honestly, i think we are too harsh liao on tah wah la.
if i see it correctly lar, gemilang permai juga no conceal aricon paiping ma, and no plaster ceiling too mar. r we asking too much or not?
staircase handrail, ya lar, lousy lar, but hor, you think other one very good meh? so i think we dont put unrealistic expectation la just because of 500k property then u want all good goog good one
my opinion nia lar
AhTu….the exterior & interior color just look nice lor……for the stair case handle I planned to change it in to beautiful design stainless steel, the ground floor air con pipe can cover with plaster ceiling…. only worry the air con pipe in 2nd & 3rd floor lor…cos I don’t want to install plaster ceiling ma…
aun chua hoe……?
I think that for those who can afford to buy higher end house, surely most of them wish to do their own renovation according to their taste. For plaster ceiling, some people want L-box, concealed light box, different cornices, timber ceiling strips, square/round/rectangle shape box, concealed curtain track.. etc. Some more if plaster ceiling is already there, how can we ask wireman to do wire looping to various areas that you want your downlights to be? I am no experience house buyer and not sure how high end developer built plaster ceiling for buyers. I think most probably the plaster ceiling will be taken down later and it’s a waste of money and resources and not environment friendly.
@New
Exactly, OV buyers are too excited and enthusiastic with this project until they put too high hope on it. Higher hope, higher disappointment. Actually this project is still ok lah. Now half a million house in mainland is equivalent to 250k house quality 10 years ago, as house price everywhere has generally gone up substantially, along with material and labour cost.
it will depend on developer la…but wat i foresee is most of the developers gave basic eh plaster ceiling lor.. at least will not c the ceiling eh beams lor..hehe…but if tah wah advertised their project in newspaper saying orange vila is a high end houses then hmms..at least nid some plasters in the ceiling there la to make the house eh ceiling looks nice n a bit class to c to ppls when they visited show unit ma(=their future house lor)…my views oni laa…hehe
@WinnieWowWow
did OV said they build high-end house? No lah, they said they built is cheap and affordable house. Where can you find a house with 31/2 storey with less than RM600K? DNP only 3 storey is also more expensive than OV but DNP built quality house. Go to BM Utama site, all buyer post positive comments.
i understand that the color color stuffs 1 is very subjective 1 lor…i’m still felt that the exterior colors painted there looks dull n not bright lor..but i’m ok if majority of buyers like the current color as minority nid to follow majority eh views ma..hehe…but if the developer can change to more brigther color than lagi bagus la…hehe
for the staircase handle, i went to homedec last sunday lor n ask the shop that do the staircase handle eh la…the taukeh said 1ft of stainless steel with tempered glass for staircase cause around rm300-rm330, for orange vila eh staircase handle, i think it length should b around 55ft -60ft kua, it will b veli costly lor if u plan to change it to stainless steel with glass 1 …around 16-20k just for that lor…how lam lor just for tukar handle nid so much of $$$$..unless u r hor giat enough laa..then u will be veli happy when changed it cause sui ma…hehe…
when i bought my house last time first hand from developer, it came with a default plaster ceiling la…..just a basic 1 la…during that time, i just asked the wireman to korek few downlight holes in that plaster ceiling n install the wire inside the plaster ceiling lor…it save me lot of $$$$ la…if u want a fancy n modern looks eh plaster ceiling, of course u nid to take down the basic plaster ceiling that given by developer laa n ask contractor to do it for u lor..but costly liao ma…haha.
@AhTu
of coz they advertise they are high end lar, everyone says they r high end ma, mana uh lang kong they r middle end or low end eh
@AhTu
of coz they advertise they are high end lar, everyone says they r high end ma, mana uh lang kong they r middle end or low end eh
AhTu…..I am not hor giat lah….. planning to do some internal renovation budget about rm100k-150k only.
the staircase handle change stainless steel only without tempered glass, may be it is cheaper lor….
haha..true oso…haha
@V@gmal.my
ya..it will save a lot if handle is stainless steel without tempered glass to cover the big holes under the handle la, but how about the big holes below the handle le? nid to put something too ma if not veli dangerous lor…hehe
Lim pek has been following this property talk lately and now sipek beh tahan liau. You all expect developer to provide plaster ceiling ah, not practical mah. Lim pek bought many house and have visited many show houses liau. The only mistake that tah wah did is to show a showhouse with aircond paiping whereby other developer would not show it. Lim pek checked with the developer liau, the sales person said this unit has been sold and the owner has upgraded aircond paip for the whole house.
If you go to other project usually the showhouse is not sold ma and which developer wants to show the ugly paip. But to Lim pek it’s good that the developer is so frank at this stage if not later when you upgrade the paip and it’s exposed lagi teruk lo you will sue the developer oh. To me I am ok with the quality But many of you also complained about the staircase handrail, yes lim pek also sipek bo suka and hopefully tah wah would do something to it.
AhTu….the holes also cover with stainless steel design ma ……
Is that a human or something else in the first picture that contributed by @AhTu (17/2/2012).
Not sure if that human standing on top of the roof, since the posture doesn’t look like standing and if look at the baseline how come there is a possibility for human to stand there??? scaryyyyyyyy -.-!
AhTu…. it is good or not if ask developer to do renovation our house…….
@V@gmal.my
oh like that ka..can share estimated how much ah if do like that ? i think stainless steel not cheap oso ma..hehe..
@V@gmal.my
i dun think developer will do renovation for u lor..but u can try n ask them kua..hehe
@grandfather
well said.. no one will respond to u liao coz u r spot on…
i think overall buyers here expect too much liao la. may b buyers here only minority
AhTu…if can good lor…. can save $$$….hehe
@AhTu
for me location is not that important bcos all of us have car. But the design of the house is super important especially the interior design. Just imagine, you are going stay in that house for another 10 years or 20 years and you are going to look at it everyday. if the design is no good — everyday when you open the door, you also will feel no good and then all good fengshui also cabut lah. if house got small kids, your heart will be everyday ping pong tiau … and hope kids fall out for that lousy stair case.
Change the staircase handrail, you also need to change the staircase tile. when you kong kong the handrail, the tiles also will break lah .. you need to have another rm20k to do the tiles — so, total another RM40K. then that house will ended more expensive than airmas
si liao liao
@V@gmal.my
RM100 to RM150K still not consider hor gait ?
@grandfather
who said got no house come with plaster ceiling — go see the house at BM Permai. come with plaster ceiling and complete air-cond piping without having the needs to pay extra one cents.
lost …… I didn’t mention I am hor gait……. I said my renovation budget is rm100k to rm150k only….
Lim pek will find out if what you said is true cost most of your facts are not true. you said change the staircase must hack the tile..if you see the show house you will understand that changing of handrail does not require hacking of the tiles. we the orange villa buyers only want the best for our future home and to live harmoniously in this G&G homes.
I have one more point to add to the toilet water tap issue, the water tap shall be a hot and cold faucet.
While the developer has installed hot water piping ready concealed in the wall, but the hot water only come out from shower head. So if you need to take hot water using bucket for baby or small children to take bath, there is no way, shower head water will just spread out and you can’t collect hot water by putting a plastic bucket on the floor.
Another problem is the position of the shower head, it is too low. I think it it about six feet high, if your height is near to six feet you cannot enjoy the rain shower spreading to your body during shower.
Take a look at the website below showing the standard heights for shower head:
http://www.groheamerica.com/en/for-professionals/installation-advice/shower-head-body-sprays/m/25_71734/page/content/measurement/inst-shower.php
See item h4 in the table, for our Asian people height of 5 ft 3″ to 5 ft 7″, h4 shall be 83″ and 88″, roughly the shower head shall be position at 7 ft
As told by the developer that they are not going to do anything about the car porch roof opening, they are expecting all buyers to install a roof cover themselves . Their designer messed up the design, swapped the letter box/PBA meter box with green area, and leave a hole for buyers, let rainwater dripping into car porch and wet everywhere, how can they not fixing this? We have to protest about this. If developer don’t do it, at the end every house will install their own, with various types, various colored metal roof, glass roof, plastic roof, different profiled tile roof, etc…and spoil the unity of gated and guarded scheme design.
@Orange Juice
if you want to pick bone from chicken egg ah, susah lo. u can pick a lot of bones leh.
this is not big issues la, u will find this type of things in every project la.
come on…
@Orange Juice
I agree with u on the car porch roof opening stuffs….i oso highlighted the same to the developer and get the same answer as u too lor…developer put an opening there to allow sunlight masuk but at the bottom is not a green area . the car porch n PBA simen box sure get wet if rain n if resident not put up any covers there lor…not only the car porch will get wet, day after day the PBA simen box sure get dirty with green alga eh la if titi kena rain..hehe…their designer really no professional la..design things always not think ahead 1, n at last ask the buyer to kau tim by themself the flaw on the design …hehe…if later resident chin chin chai chai covered it using plastic or sa kat pan due to tight budget then how lam liao lor…..resident will say i’m not breaking the GnG rules ma cause the sa kat pan or plastic that i placed on will not be seeing if u see from outside 1 la….just joking..haha….
this is not to pick bone from chicken egg lah. this is the FACT. Cant u see the point? if the developer allows buyer to do on their own, then better still let buyer do/install everything(indoor or outdoor), since buyer would do their own RENOVATION!!!
I won’t point anything if the whole project already completed, that’s wasting my time, but now only show house done, still early and still change improve.
some people here are not the real buyers and like to kacau-kacau. I dont believe if they are true buyers they would not feel disappointing in seeing the show house. Do not want to say no standard, but the flaws are too much to accept.
@justice
half a million hse is becoming a norm right now la and u dont expect everything lar. except the handrail, i think overall still okok lar.
@justice n @New
haha…no nid to argue lai argue ki eh la..simple nia la…if u r happy with wat u c n wat u will get after viewing the show unit , then no nid to join the Purchaser association(PA) liao la cause u r happy with what u will get later on ma, but if u r unhappy with wat u will get like wat u c on show unit 1, n u think u oso want to raise ur concerns to developer, then pls join the Purchaser Association lor….send ur FB account to @orangemanic la(soli forgot orangemanic eh email liao..anyway u find in her/his comments here juga la..hehe) ..n pls note that the list that the PA eh team put up here will b discussed among the PA team first b4 talk to developer eh manager lor or directly brought up to dato Hong if their mgr cannot char fit lor…hehe.. the rules on the concern or suggestion list is same, that is minority need to follow majority eh views…..simple ma…hehe..aiyo..y arguing u r not buyer or u r just minority of buyer that raised the issues? hehe..we r mature person here..not kids anymore la…headache..headache..hehe
if u think location is not that important, then u hv lot of choices liao now …hehe…u can gave up ur unit in orange vila n gave up ur 5k deposit now oso lor…cause there r lot of new project in tambun or simpang empat or jawi or macang bubuk lor..the house price oso not that high as orange vila ma….haha… u can consider the project name BM highland or Tropicale residency at macang bubok liao la if location not that important to u…hehe..i went to c Tropicale Residency long time ago n i recall the sale person bawa me with his pajero to their site, that time no show house lagi, just can c workers are cutting the hill….hehe..from their show house design..really grand n i admited that it is better than orange vila la, n enviromment there si pek song oso cause can c the green forest with fresh air cause the site is above the hill ma…it is oso GnG ma… now tropical got show house liao..i went to their show house too last 3.5 weeks ago, the environment si pek song la n their house design n material given by GTM(developer that ventured in rokok 1)oso good la…but for me, location is my first point lor, that y i not buy laa..want to come out to cari economi rice pun susah liao if stay there lor…..haha…everyone got cars la, but will habis car oil later la when everyday cari different different eh economi rice lor…if u r retire person, then Tropicale residency may be gam lu lor..haha.
This is the spec I got fr developer website.
Ground Floor/1st Floor/2nd Floor – Skim Coat / Plaster Ceiling to underside ofReinforced Concrete Slab
All Bathrooms – Plaster Ceiling
What does that mean ?
@BuyerAlso
i think got slash(/) symbol may mean developer can suka suka give buyers the skim coat ceiling if they bo lui/$$$$ si or suka suka give buyer plaster ceiling if they got lui/$$$$ si..haha…i guess skim coat may b cheaper than plaster la…..may b i m wrong le…hehe..if follow that spec, then aircon paiping need to be under the skim coat eh ceiling or plaster eh ceiling ma…hmm…if upgrading aircon paip below the skim coat/plaster ceiling then upgrade aircon paip jo mik ni ? waste buyer eh lui/$$$ cause later still nid to korek lui/$$$$ to do skim coat or plaster ceiling lagi to cover it lor..looks like double jobs liao..pls correct if i m wrong le..ok 1…i will not angry 1….cause i can learn if i m wrong la…hehe…
True that half a million house is becoming a norm, quality expectation has been increased as well.
Hi guys, the developer just confirmed that they will change the staircase handrail and together with the tiles. Asked about what design, they feedback that still in the stage of design. Hope this is a goods news to all the buyer
Yippies….. hehe
@Kelvin
kam xia for sharing the good news …hehe..as i said, developer is open minded 1 la…hope that they will study the others concerns such as exterior color, skim coat/plaster ceiling, quality of workmanship stuffs lor…hehe….
Hi all Genuine buyers, OV purchaser club will be having a meeting in this upcoming Saturday on 21/4 at 3pm. We will be meeting up at 糖伯府 cafe near Gemilang. Full address is: No.1 jalan perniagaan gemilang 1, pusat perniagaan gemilang 14000 bukit mertajam. If u a genuine purchaser of OV, come join us! How do u identify our members? Easy! When u see an OV t-shirt on the table with a group of people smile at you like an orange..there will be where we are..!
Remember, our meeting is not to arm-twist the developer but to seek fairness and ensure a quality home is delivered to us. Bring along with your impartial suggestions n comments..will address the issues step-by-step n come out with the next course of actions in the meeting.
Some of u who r actively in the blog is time to show up n make things moving…