Wow..So big size 2152 sqf at RM 568,000 => RM 264/sqf…Abit below market price…Is it because no facilities?

In front of it is penang port , a lot of smoke coming out from the container mover and ship

Also it is in front of a highway

If you pasang one air filter should be ok lol

The view partly block by container

So i guess it is worth to buy consider the size build up is unseen

already completed?

Before buy pls think twice, every nite you will have a lot spot light n midnite will have mat rempit

Just went and visit the place.
The wind here is very strong and can see panoview from the rofgarden. Very big house around 800sf living room And dining. Can reali consider this project for own stay Orr holidays home.

@Daniel
Is the entrance at the front of Affina Bay? How much is maintenance per month? Really attracted to the low density and unit size of this project. Looks completed already.

Attracted by the size and 2 units per floor concept. Looks like a not bad project

@Liu82
Guess the only selling points are big size,low density and CHEAPER than current market prices..
But how come nobody is concerned with its facilities?Are there with facilities?

Juz back from site, more than half already sold out and the facilities is indeed nice, got a beautyful infinity pool and roof garden.

If you buy i will say good luck to you n very soon you will regret. Go to mudah check the subsale price for affina bay very cheap with big sqft…,..

Just back from the site. Basically not much units left think 4 or 5 units only.

And again you need to go to the site to checkout yourself the unit if your like it or not.

For me… the view & size is simply marvelous for the pricing. Even Tambun Indah’s Pangsapuri Camelia or the Tah Wah’s Orange also you wont get anything lower than RM330 per sqft.

And about Affina Bay, I wont even buy it if the price is selling at 200k for 1500sqft…. You know what I mean if you visit the site…

@Fire
Actually I don’t understand why Affina Bay has a bad image, when I visited the condo a year ago, it seems like a nice condo. Can you share with us why it is not good?

i was allowed to visit the roof garden at 9pm sat night. the view is simply magnificent

@BB
before penang port expand Affina bay view is good and the price also high. After penang port expand the condo and aprtment nearby such Affina and Ria the price unable to up anymore and drop.

@BB
you know penang port have how many spot light? you can imagine how bright at nite with so many spot light from penang port? try go to see the port at nite so you will know wat i trying to say.

@Fire
go to find out why developer sell so cheap sure have something. Workmanship from this developer also so so only can go to check shineville one of the project from OHM. Do some study before you decide to jump.

@BB
this is my last advise to you in this forum. go to check why the price for nearby condo and aprtment the price so cheap? go to ask the ppl stay highrise building nearby what is the disadvantage at this area? pls always remember developer wont do charity sell with the lowest price.

@AA
Seriously? That is it? Spotlights??? Not land title problem, Air pollution, Structure problems, Management problem or Paranormal activity?? Have you heard of a brilliant invention that was introduced some time ago? It is called ‘CURTAINS’. I think you need to check out this new product called ‘CURTAINS’ as I think it will really change your life.

Seriously? That is it? Spotlights??? Not land title problem, Air pollution, Structure problems, Management problem or Paranormal activity?? Have you heard of a brilliant invention that was introduced some time ago? It is called ‘CURTAINS’. I think you need to check out this new product called ‘CURTAINS’ as I think it will really change your life.

Hi AA, thanks for your input.

Think that Shineville is near to the graveyard and that making it a bad choice for investment or own stay.

There is no right or wrong… Just own personal selective criteria on what is the most important thing that you looking for on the property.

That again is very much depend on what you really want. Either you looking for a seaview at a reasonable price, some place to stay or a luxury unit that fit all your criteria.

But I guess the buyer should be able to make a wise choice based on their comparison with the property in the surrounding area.

And again the question lies back to whether you going to buy it for investment or own stay.

Why is AA so agitated with this project?

Workmanship issue? = Built & Sell
Facilities? = View by yourself
Sporrt Light? = View by yourself

Happy or not, i think this project is sold out

I thought it was a Shop Office/Commercial building when I first saw this project building up,

no sign, no ads, no information at all.

and today I went to the actual site and pay a visit, it was a surprisingly 28 units condo with a whopping built up of 2200.

The living areea is very very big, 4 rooms and reasonably placed at Rm568k onwards, very attractive price. the facilities and poool is big, now trying to get bank loan to purchase

@johnkhaw
Good for you..It’s indeed below market price..But it’s really too big for me..Cannot imagine a 3-4 members family staying in 2000sqf size of condo..Big time spent on housekeeping..Haha..
Still feel that 1400-1600sqf are good enough for me..hehe..

What facilities are they really having now beside pool?? Please share more information..Thank you

unit is huge but too many column… container view basically. think twice. price below market = developer want to get rid off hands quickly = cepat cabut

@BB
Pls buy a good CURTAINS bacause the house is facing west and you need to use for long hour. Use 568k to buy a CURTAINS house? Hope you enjoy it

@DD
go to ask the ppl staying at shineville so you will know. Non of my business i dont want comment too much.

@PING
formula is easy simple developer know well the cons so they use cheaper price + bigger sqft to attract water fish to buy so they can cepat cabut. Their money and their choice let them to choose. After they regret i can tell you they will not easy to sell out their unit buy 568k after consider RGPT and bank interest i think they need to sell at least 750k. In mainland 750k i have a lot of choice and can buy landed as well.

Only the maintenance also will suffer let say 0.20 per sqft x 2000 sqft = rm400/month (not included sinking fund).

@Fire
i staying at this area so i wont buy this area anymore coz i know well the cons of this area.

@AA
Hi AA, can u share with us the cons of the area?

done, bought a unit at above 13th floor.

i’ve went to the place for 4 visits. Morning, Noon, sunset, night time.

so far overall very satisfied, good facilities, perfect view, good workmanship.

what kind of project is this? didn’t even launch and sold out

@johnkhaw
It’s indeed very cheap, lower than market price by 15%-20%…Should be worth buying..
Mind sharing me beside the swimming pools, what else facilities it has?

Any gym, yoga room, meeting room (guest waiting room), tennis court, basketball court , children play ground, squash, BBQ pits and etc..?

Thank you

edisongan :
@johnkhaw
It’s indeed very cheap, lower than market price by 15%-20%…Should be worth buying..
Mind sharing me beside the swimming pools, what else facilities it has?
Any gym, yoga room, meeting room (guest waiting room), tennis court, basketball court , children play ground, squash, BBQ pits and etc..?
Thank you

to me, the facilities is more than enough and its usually rarely used, i’ll just use the gym, the sky garden and pool from time to time, and maybe BBQ,

i was explained very detailed and carefully of the project, i think you should call the sales if you r interested as i think its almost sold out

@johnkhaw
Relax man…I am not “attacker” on this project..But more on curiosity and interest on it

Well, I simply admire its low density (2 units each floor) and big spaces (2152sqf) at RM 568K only..Very cheap indeed..But too big for my small family since I am thinking to go for investment for my 2nd property..Too big is not easy to resell too..

That’s why I need to understand beside the above selling points, what are the facilities like..

Happy to see you find your satisfactory house and wish you all the best, dude.

Wow… 28 units only… your maintenance will be super high..

Let’s take for example… since low density… they start off with only 2 guards.. one for the day and one for the night… at the current rate of guards in Butterworth today… you’re looking at around RM3.8k monthly for the security company… that’s about RM135/month just for guards only…

Add management company (maybe another RM3.5 – 3.8k), swimming pool maintenance company (RM1k or so), cleaning company (min also around RM2.5k for two cleaners), lift maintenance (about RM700 per lift monthly)

You calculate yourself how much the maintenance is going to be lah… really a place for rich man

@Pak Hai Ahpek
Hello Ah Pek, good pointer from you but I think if people are going for such big unit 2152sqf, should be big family..Each of them forks out abit to make it through loh..Haha..

Let say RM0.25/sqf , 2152sqf X RM 0.25/sqf = RM 538 ; RM 538 X 28 units = RM 15K
So, sustainable or not?

RM15k ah…. hmmm… barely enough loh…

Add all the expenses I mentioned above.. that’s about RM12,500.
That’s not yet including monthly payment for the chargman, fire fighting equipment maintenance, etc.

Also, TNB bill could be minimum RM3k / month based on the facilities and how frequently the lifts are used.

GST lagi leh…. fuyooh…. maybe RM600 / month maintenance baru can barely break even….

ANDDDDDDDDDD…………………….. that’s assuming all 28 unit owners pay their maintenance like good boys and girls. But let’s face it, that’s a rare occurence.

Unfortunately, not ALL of the residents will pay the maintenance fees. Think twice before make ur move

Walao eh maintenance fee only can installment one biji perodua Axia liao…..

johnkhaw :
done, bought a unit at above 13th floor.
i’ve went to the place for 4 visits. Morning, Noon, sunset, night time.
so far overall very satisfied, good facilities, perfect view, good workmanship.

You missed out midnite visit……..
Good workmanship? Don’t make the conclusion so fast………

@Pak Hai Ahpek
Hehe..Nowaday they will collect at a lum sum amount for 1 year maintenance fee LOL…Else won’t activate your cards for you…

Anyway, I was only making assumption at RM 0.25/sqf..Management company will work out the actual cost with their desired profit margin one..All cost will be transferred to owners only mah..

Also, it does not seem to have many other facilities, guess much easier to maintain compared to others…

the maintenance fees is only 16 cents psf

Wapiang :
the maintenance fees is only 16 cents psf

LOL almost 400 per month

@Wapiang
What…so cheap? No wonder so many people are having doubts about this project…It seems to be too good to be true…So the monthly overall maintenance fee receivable is RM 9640.96 (provided all are collected)..

Really have abit doubt on how they are gonna maintain it well…

I’m guessing the cost will be as below …
4 x Security (local el cheapo ones) RM1,500 each = RM6,000
1 X Handyman & Building Maintenance RM2,000 = RM2,000
1 X Management Clerical Staff RM2,000 = RM2,000
2 X Cleaners (contracted alternate days) RM1,000 each = RM2,000
2 X Landscapers / Gardeners (contracted) RM1,000 each = RM2,000
Pool Maintenance = RM2,000 p.m.
Lift Maintenance = RM500 each p.m.
Electricity = RM3,000
Water = RM1,000

Minimum RM20,000 is required based on minimum maintenance.

So, 2,152sf. X 28 = 60,256sf. … so after completion, strata and MC is formed … maintenance need to be increased to at least RM0.33 cents psf. to be feasible.

Any rich person that buy this project just have to bear in mind that in about 1 – 2 years, the maintenance will double up.

mainland/penang people really problematic.

wan to stay luxury condo, complain maintenance high, low maintenance fees also complain.

everything also complain like they are so smart.

i think usuaully people that buy luxury project wont be smart alex here

@Wapiang
maintenance fees 16 cents psf guarantee will not up? this is just a trick from developer to attract water fish to buy. After this they increase how?

penangite :
mainland/penang people really problematic.
wan to stay luxury condo, complain maintenance high, low maintenance fees also complain.
everything also complain like they are so smart.
i think usuaully people that buy luxury project wont be smart alex here

Penang People are well known of :

– Expensive Houses = Complain Expensive

– Cheap Houses = Complain (Not Luxury Enough with Expensive House Expectation)

– Basic Facilities = Complain (Not enough Facilities But Want to Pay Low Maintenance Fees)

– Many Facilities = Complain (Later Maintenance Cannot Cover)

– Low Maintenance Fees = Complain (Too Low scare not Enough)

– High Maintenance Fees = Complain (Too Expensive)

Nowadays people just know how to complain, getting closer to Singaporean, the difference is,
Singaporean dare to talk dare to commit
Penang people dare to talk but nobody wants to work on it

Alex
Former Committee Member of Mutiara Villa

haha must complain, thats y smart developer will free 1 year maintenance fee…

Big Fish :
@Wapiang
maintenance fees 16 cents psf guarantee will not up? this is just a trick from developer to attract water fish to buy. After this they increase how?

Developers got power to increase anytime

just visited the unit this morning.
my comments:

positive
1. great view
2. great breeze
3. low density leads to less noise, less waiting time for lift.
4. living hall is huge
5. nice roop top garden
6. rooms with parquet flooring

negative
1. bedroom small
2. Fire escape door at the living room.
3.too many windows for a unit.
4. metal furnitures will rust faster due sea breeze.
5. water will.splatter into the house during heavy rain with strong wind if windows and doors are not closed.
6. there are rubber mounting around the miŕrors which seems to be low quality. Give around 2 years for wear and tear.
7.At the pool , no bracket holding the mirrors. a safety concern for children.
8. the building is exactly behide shell petrol station. possible of gas vapour odour during warm weather
9. expects alot birds dropping at balcony area.
10. Maintenance 0.16 per sqft! only god knows in this economy situation how to maintain the condo with 0.16sqft..

this is just personnel opinion .

I would not call it complaining.. but more of creating awareness…

those who have been in JMB/MC before will know how hard it is to collect maintenance fees (even 80% rate also is hero liao), and also the various expenses needed as time goes by.

Simple economics right? Income > Expenses = sustainable

I realized every project in this Forum also people complain, those project without people complain is not a project.

Because the more you complain, the more people think u r smarter

this project sold out?

Hi, Anyone change their mind and wanted to let go of their unit. Please call me at 0195562779. Only interested in the one above 13th floor and facing the sea not the port. TQ

AA :
@BB
Pls buy a good CURTAINS bacause the house is facing west and you need to use for long hour. Use 568k to buy a CURTAINS house? Hope you enjoy it

Haha…i never see anybody that don’t put curtain in their house regardless the house is 50k, 500k or 5 million ringgit.

I have an unit Double storey house 20 X 79′ with Gated and Guarded with full of facilities at Sg Dua, Butterworth. Anyone interested?

anyone already move in? how is the enviroment?

saw ppl selling 830k at mudah. if got any water fish buy the seller sure huat ar

Actually 2000 sqft selling Rm800k is market price…if this unit at penang sure selling 1million above…now butterworth condo 1000sqft already selling 400k…

I’ve already moved into the condo, so far so good. very peaceful (no motorbike racing as people claim) so far. you dont see much people as its very low density and probably noone moved in yet.

spent around 100k on reno (45k carpentry and 55k on fittings+airconds+electrical stuff)

Congrats Teoh for moving in. With Butterworth Sentral going to be ready by this year & future 3rd link , Nautical Bay price will rise further.

@teoh
R u sure no motorbike racing on weekend n public holiday? You better buy ear plug standby if you want to sleep well

@teoh
motorbike and car racing become worse now a day and no action taken by our police. Anyway i will move out from this area once my new house is complete due to me and my family still want to sleep well on every nite. i hope your peaceful will continue

Anyone here who already move in can comment more on the location/environmental problem there? Any noise on motor racing? Anything not good? Pls share here so that potential water fish (probably me) will not be trapped. Thanks. 😛

@JB

im staying at 16th floor and so far Okay, i clean my balcony once a week and the dust is reasonable. the rooms are all at the back so i don’t really hear much voices during night time. assuming not disturbing. staying for 2nd months n so far so good.

anyone knows if theres anything unit more for sale?

@Ng
you can call developer OHM to ask

thks, just called them and mentioned got 2 last unit bumi release

Any owner here? because need some input about this project because I plan to buy a subsales unit over here. thanks

@johnkhaw
Hello John, since you are the owner for the Nautical bay and would like to get some pro and cons inputs from you about this property because I plan to buy an unit there. thanks

@Sim Sim, you may call or Whatapp me at or elrichchan@gmail.com as I am the Chairman of the Condo Mgmt comittee and have a unit to sell as well.

@Chan
Chan, has been replied you via email.