If it is toll-free as proposed, even the first bridge may tutup kedai.

Actually, I do agree 3rd bridge is somewhat redundant. It’s the population density that need to be distributed more even throughout the state. Even though free toll sounds attractive, there’s other more significant concerns that needs to be address such as congestion, job opportunities, affordable home, un-developed mainland etc.

What happens to the money spent on the tunnel?

Less people use ferry is because the ferry service is TERRIBLE! Long hours of waiting and not enough ferries operate even during peak hours. With the way this ferry service is running, I don’t think it will last very long, as more and more people will rather drive further than waiting hours for it.

Penang second bridge is built for crony to songklap. No traffic, no study nothing. After bridge complete only start to plan for development. What kind of planning is this? It should be planned and built to relieve the traffic of existing bridge, not to built and then wait for development. Now the third bridge can’t even sustain itself for daily expenses, don’t even start to talk about profit and construction cost.

Now after bridge is completed, crony quota still not enough. Start to do painting for the whole bridge. Painting for new bridge is a method of corruption, the job will takes few years just to polish away the existing cement surface and spray a new paint for 20++km. When the painting finish, the first stage of paint start to loose its shine and you need to redo all the process again.

Do you see first bridge having a nice coat of paint? It will be maintenance free for many many years.

Bridge connecting gurney and Prai should be built first and not this Batu Kawan bridge. Third bridge now, I can’t comment further.

The ferry service is really a nightmare and falling apart. And this article has the nerve to say not enough people using the ferry?!
HELLO! Have you SEEN the queue after work on the island side?! TOTAL CHAOS.
Will we live with this level of service for the next 10 or 20 years? When will something be done? How long do we have to wait still?
Why does KL have every highway and every LRT / MRT / Monorail APPROVED?
Sometime I wait one hour for the ferry. The first bridge is jammed with accidents.
Do not even mention the huge White Elephant 2nd Bridge that some genius decided to build in the LOWEST POPULATION place in the mainland AND DOUBLE the length !
As USUAL, the people in the above article are NOT INTERESTED in ANY SOLUTIONS to this escalating problem.

If these people are sincere about finding SOLUTIONS, they should immediately propose a Gurney Drive to Bagan Ajam Tunnel MRT, that will definitely not bring in more vehicles to the precious island, right?
But NON of the NGOs or politicians suggest ANY alternative solutions.
Some helpful bunch these people are.
So WHY are they monopolizing all the newsmedia and hijacking this entire debate?
When on earth this statement suddenly became accepted fact??
“With the undersea tunnel receiving a lot of ‘not so good’ feedback from the public”
All we have been hearing is NGOs and Politicians ! When did we hear from “The Public”?!
KL, when they want to build ANOTHER LRT, got THIS MUCH comments from these people?? I really LOL !

Let mainland people suffer the daily jam. NO to third bridge or tunnel!!!!

Cable car project cancelled because boats cannot pass to go to Penang Port.
So , how to build a bridge to allow these boats to pass through ? Need to be super high !

Never live on mainland. Live in Penang Island. The best always

@Island NGO
Player from Tamarind is that you?? So, no island people work on the mainland is it?? Should join the NGO lah you, they are looking for talented people who can spew torrents of nonsensical statements like you !

@Getha
Haaa, OK, Go and grow own veg raise own cattle generate own electricity dispose own rubbish use your own private undersea internet cable harvest your own rainwater to drink

bridge from bagan ajam to gurney only 6.5 km, so short only y not connect it? islander those stay at gurney can send his child to mainland study no need suffer jam, but second bridge 35km is noob bridge waste time waste petrol duno build for wat zzz

well said @Jurong
i agree with your following statement:
“Penang second bridge is built for crony to songklap. No traffic, no study nothing. After bridge complete only start to plan for development. “

that’s why we need 3rd penang bridge / sea tunnel

3rd Penang bridge is a necessity.Why not?

3rd bridge is the best way to reduce the congested traffic if state government can have proper planning to connect the FTZ/Georgetown to the 3rd bridge, as well as the exit of the 3rd bridge in Bagan Ajam area.

Today, as more people are moving to mainland and most of those folk are staying in northern region, by having 3rd bridge, will ease the jam on 1st bridge from FTZ and Georgetown as people who working in Georgetown who stay in mainland can just use 3rd bridge and reduce the traffic going south.

With less traffic on 1st bridge, will reduce the congested in the North south highway as well as the daily jam in the coastal highway.

So, 2nd bridge will go bankrupt and let the crony die.

So you want those living in simpang ampat batu kawan that works in ftz to go up to congested first bridge. Then go down to ftz?
Second bridge is good and solves connection of ftz to mainland lower half

Forget mainland. Only buy properties on Penang Island. Mainland are for losers!

Getha :
Forget mainland. Only buy properties on Penang Island. Mainland are for losers!

ppl talk about bridge, but u compare property in island vs mainland, mainlander stay at semi d, bu
ngalow but u stay small apartment in island, who are loser? like singaporian said only buy properties on singapora, malaysia is for loser!

This is a narrow view. Roads are built to be used. Flow is to be managed. I agree Penang needs to look into its traffic management. But the bridge is to spur economy and develop new areas. Look at KLIA. Empty and nobody wanted to live there. But now, new exits are built for newly developed areas. Compare it to Bukit Beruntung where speculators built in anticipation of KLIA being built there and it was not to be.

The 3rd bridge is definitely a necessity for this northern Penang island and mainland residents to commute.Those residents can forget using the ferry service or even 2nd bridge when it is so convenient to travel between these two northern areas for work, leisure or even setting up a permanent home would be ideal..

They are more interested to tell people 3rd Bridge will affect the Ferry Services & the ultimate affect will goes to their crony 1st Bridge – which i call this group really Brainless!
3rd Brdige will dispersed the entire PG traffic smoothly. Think again a lot mainland people working in the Island! They are not staying near the 2nd Bridge! If they were to use 2nd Bridge, how much money gone to petrol.
Don’t compare 2nd bridge, those brainless people had make a call to put this bridge at Unpopulated Area.

For the long run point of view, 3rd bridge or undersea tunnel is needed to relieve the traffic jam because in M’sia families, chincai chincai have 3-4 cars for 5 family members..Agree?

Especially those mature town like Georgetown and Butterworth, if the 3rd bridge built mainly cater to help resolve the heavy traffic from G.Town,BW, S.Petani, it’s very helpful and constructive meanwhile the first bridge is cater for BM, Prai, Gelugor, Relau as well as Bayan Baru ..2nd bridge is cater for Batu Mau, B.Kawan, Simpang Ampat, Bayan Lepas ..Isn’t that a great idea to live in Penang?

@thund
Totally agree, 3rd bridge or tunnel can benefit so many people commuting from Kepala Batas and Sg. Petani and Kulim. The morning rush at Seberang Jaya is crazy.
Lots of people will be moving to the mainland in the next 10/20 yrs to escape the tiny and expensive and high density apartments on the island, can you imagine the situation a few years down the road?

PEN is quite similar to HK (HK Island & Kowloon). We can learn from it then modify to meet our need. We should improve our public transport in order to reduce traffic congestion. In common logistic study, traffic always spurs to more develop area (Georgetown), hence, build 3rd bridge or tunnel will make the traffic in town worsen.

Ferry is our heritage. Can’t let the third bridge and tunnel destroy it.

2nd bridge is a waste and should be the 3rd bridge instead , prai and north of butterworth especially raja uda area am already developed , why not build at developed area instead of build at jungle place ? Dont know build for who lol, the traffic sure is low for 2nd bridge because you build wrong bridge man , connecting so far accross ocean yet not easing any traffic

Island is good to stay if you re a millionaire , else those who live in small flat like box call “apartment” better shut up because you dont know how to think about the benefit of 3rd bridge to the majority , the public want the 3rd bridge to ease traffic from the 1st bridge , and those loser who stay in small box that never want to improve yourself or though very good living high density flat as long as it is island no brainer that did not cross bridge everyday just dont understand those who did and want better living environment

I can’t believe that so many people are falling for this political gimmick, wasting their time debating.

Come on la.. who say people dont want this projects.. i believe majority penangite would want this.. it cause jam because everyone going penang using the same road.. if they build a shortcut to tanjung bunga & batu feringgi area – ll definitely ease traffic in town, gurney or masjid negeri area also.. wanna reject & say it cost triple for underground projects – then when offer to build save budget bridge & free for rakyat – then another excuse coming pulak..
Please la , stop all the politics crap for awhile & think wise as malaysian & serve people for better! ferry huh – no mood to comment on this.

I agree , people now rather live in better and modern condo in mainland rather than burned out look old high dense apartment at congested area , unless you re someone that only want convenience above everything , else now all good condo in island already 700k and above , the cheapest at sungai ara , relau also need cost 500k above and many high dense development there due to mostly occupied by foreign worker, factory worker etc …sub sales 20 yr old house which look like 50k flat can now sell up to 350k already at strategic area on island

@Danny
Oh Danny boy, why demand people to shut up? Malaysia is a democratic country afterall and everyone should have their rights to voice out. Those who put up in shoe-box apartments in Penang island have once put on their thinking cap and weighed the pros and cons of living in pigeon holes and not having to worry much about traffic versus staying in huge semi-D/bungalow but suffer from the traffic 5 days per week. Each have made their own decision and time will tell the ultimate winner.

@Danny

Actually the thing that turns me off staying in mainland is not so much of the traffic, but the smell of chicken shit, and for raja uda’s case, the noise and risk of staying below the low flying path of RMAF fighter jets.

@SS Lim
I also agree with the article and SS Lim that the population of Penang is not that high to demand for a third bridge, or even LRT. The issue we face now is that not many willing to sacrifice and live far away from town (Georgetown & BM). As suggested, the state government should instead focus on distributing the population more evenly across the island and mainland. Perhaps lower the land assessment or even giving it away for free for those willing to stay in the suburbs? Also, to improve on our public transport system a.k.a. bus by designating a section of the road as bus/car pool land only during peak hours. Road users should also give way to buses whenever possible and not forcing them to get stuck in traffic with us. Perhaps we should give buses the same treatment we gave to ambulances/fire trucks? I believe people will use back the long forgotten bus services if they are punctual on their schedule. Penang would surely be a better place to live in, if all Penangites are willing to cooperate.

Island traffic is worst by day, i think mostly people who say traffic not jam is driving motorcycle with rain cloth during rainy day lol

Ya like i said if you can tahan the jam, the smoke of factory that you cant see with eye until you go visit the backyard of each factory at bayan lepas , the motor that drive like anaconda then ok lo

Not politically related, the third link (may it be bridge or tunnel) have nothing to do with shipping or ferry’s sales rate. A tunnel can be built deeper while a bridge can be built higher and will not affect shipping route at all. For the ferry, it’s own slow service is it’s downfall. The number of vehicles crossing between island and mainland will continue to increase. Although heritage, there are only 3 operating ferries and it is really slow. Those that tried it before can attest to this. So whether a 3, 4 or 5th bridge is constructed, people will still choose the faster and more convenient way. The ferries can operate as a tourist attraction rather then passenger communal if low sales.

Those that travel frequently between Mainland & island knows that the main traffic congested areas are always Jalan Masjid Negeri, Scotland Road, Jalan Tanjung Tokong/Bungah, Kelawei, Gurney and the ferry/clan jetties. These are always the link for people trying to get from the Northern parts of Penang to the Central part or Penang (ie. to the 1st Bridge especially) Building a 3rd link at Gurney area will ease the traffic as the above mentioned roads substantially especially during weekends as there are many visitors travelling from Kedah and mainland to the beaches along Batu Feringghi. This connection I believe will also spur economic growth at the landing point of both the mainland and island.

For the 2nd bridge, please take note that it is built mainly to satisfy the request of the MNCs as containers or heavy vehicles only had limited time to cross the 1st bridge. Without the 2nd bridge, there could be less MNCs and many Penang people will be left without a job. Yes, the bridge is losing money daily and it is built crooked to increase the construction cost. But still, cronism is not the only reason for the second bridge to be built at its current location. Positively, we can also look at the second bridge and an opening for a new growth area on the mainland as places like Bayan Lepas, Sungai Ara and Relau is also getting over-populated and over priced.

bagan ajam to gurney only 6.5 km, Support Build Tunnel with MRT from B’worth to Gurney more effective.
As me, working in Georgetown and stay in B’worth…wasting my time go up to 1st bridge and Jam with Bayan Lepas folks.

Suggest and support build MRT in Georgetown, to avoid beauty of Haritage area. Town area road already too small…. ( hope Penang Gov saw it )

KL building alot highway and bridge bcs all the big crab stay there.

@leong
Haha..Leong, you are not the only one who has been suffering from this..My colleagues of our Penang office are all from island but our office is located in Seberang Jaya, hahaha..everyday also kena..But luckily they are staying in Sungai Ara & Bayan Baru area so 3 of them are using first bridge and go to work everyday..They seem already used to it now..Haha..

The fact is that penang island road is kampung road tiny small

is like putting 10 cow in a football field vs 10 cow inside a room , sure the different is obvious

penang road itself need to be widen up

it is obvious people are not going to batu kawan or ipoh that often , most people are staying at butterworth, prai and bm area ( which is north and center mainland )

so the 3rd bridge can ease the traffic for sure , people who work bayan lepas dont use the 2nd bridge because they all live at bm , butterworth not batu kawan , so with the 3rd bridge , at least people who work at georgetown wont need to jam together with bayan lepas people

now is like north , center and south of whole penang island getting thru the very same old penang 1st bridge !

wtf

Still say that living on the island is way better than mainland which has nothing at all…..

@Getha

Ya lor, there’s nothing on island actually. So why go and waste money to build 3rd link? Is this going to be the 2.8m bungalow thingy again?..;) waahh…drooling..!

Professor Dr Hassim Mat said the third bridge would only bring in more vehicles to Tanjung Tokong, Tanjung Bungah, Batu Ferringhi, Pulau Tikus and Gurney Drive, and thus cause more congestion.

People got PhD ok?

No wonder the roads in Penang are in dire-strait with such person in USM.

@Aiyo
So such a smart person should come up with some alternative proposals, but as usual these people are only good at making noise, not solving problems.

Nonetheless…..still will live only on the island and could not careless about third bridge or not….who care. Only me and my wonderful Pinang Isle

Since majority people like to use the 1st bridge for the sake of convenience, why not copy the Bangkok “super high way” which double deck their existing highway just need to pay a little higher fare.

What phd talk is nonsense only la , stay at island rich sure say so lol

People who average need live too ,pg not for old folk nia la , people who know complain but no actual solution is like singing

Make more road , flyover , bridge solve all ….those who want live old kampung life ask them move out pg la if cant adapt to changes and development

@getha

Your beloved island will soon be choked with people and car beyond ur imagination lol

See how many low cost and affordable house government is building at tanjung bungah, georgetown and bayan area, all jv for people with low income to stay

So if you now still feel nice don worry, after 1 or 2 year when all the low cost and affordable house oc you will start feel the differences lol when car park tepi jalan even at strait quay there until full whole road just like farlim and jelutong case , double lane parking , soon all area in penang will be like that unless u live at supercondo and million dollar home where people not able to afford then will be totally opposite story lol

Can see alot of islander so selfish, third bridge dint benefit them then keep talk nonsense, if u dint use the bridge doesnt means other no need, phd gt knowledge but duno how to think and otak cacat, if those stay at gurney want go to raja uda eat tomyam then how?

The planning of infrastructure cannot be done overnight. A great vision is needed in order for the state/city to grow. Put this in a simple layman words, we cant be only planning and start to build the bridge only when we need it. Planning and construction will take years and this is what happening in Penang now. Our previous leader does not have a proper planning and this is why we need to wait for years more and hoping that our traffic chaos can be solved. Again, this is all about vision and proper planning years ahead before it comes and it needs to be done early than to only start considering when we are really into that situation. Building a bridge or planning for infrastructure is unlike buying food where we only buy food when we are hungry.

@Here
Haha…Relax bro..Don’t be so serious with few of the childish people..Only minority of social haters or losers like to express their egoistic views because they did not benefit from the development of the state..Just like HK low incomers..So, making noise and becoming keyboard warriors are the only way for them to express their inferiority, why bother to mind so much?

For me, island or mainland belong the same state, we share the same culture, languages, education & medical system. Sorry to say that the GDP in mainland now also slightly higher than island on average ..But because of the history and development of state, island is the administration of government, financial hub of state and more commercial activities due to British positioned it this way where mainland is majorly cater for industrial, logistic and agriculture development, so this made up the Penang state, a balance development

So, people being arrogant or stuck-up unless
1) You are super rich where up to 90% of majority of Penangites cannot reach your level
2) Your academic achievement is super high and famous in the world
3) Your working portfolio has attained an unreachable level for majority of people

So, do you believe that those egoists belong to above 3 ? If not, why being so serious with them while they might be also working for people and drawing average income of RM3.5K/month and want to vent their unhappiness here..

Some Singaporeans being arrogant because they found their country achievement and income are much higher than Malaysia which is so true…Same as some Hong Kongers to mainlanders..

But in Penang, I wonder what make them feel that they are earning double or triple than mainlanders while probably still lower than mainlanders and still need to suffer from higher properties price in island..

For mainlanders, sometimes it is just an option if mainlanders wanna buy property and stay on island only, not that they cannot afford like Singapore / HK cases..So, why is it still feeling so great about yourself? Hahahah…

So, Mr.Here…next time when you read those comments, please take it easy and sit back, relax..

@wayne
Truly agreed with your comment and foresight
Only matter of time. Penang state will be like Hong Kong island to Kowloon & New Territories..

Must plan many years ahead while average Penang families ,member of 5 are with 3 vehicles..More specific is 3 cars….

Building 3rd bridge in early stage also will save a lot of money if build 10 years later…Different cost..

One thing great about island motorist is that their back view mirror dont look back haha and they drive straight like wall never looking back, then accident everyday jam happy

I saw some advertisements in theStar newspaper today on Aspen’s batu kawan new township, looks very impressive. Of course, it takes some time to develop the whole mega township, but I think things are starting to take shape. Very exciting.

@edisongan

I totally agree with you. Mainlanders have higher income than islanders now, so mainland higher class now. We should just forget about building the 3rd bridge since high class mainlanders not going to island, and low class islanders feel too inferior to step foot on mainland.

I strongly agree with you when you said “Building 3rd bridge in early stage also will save a lot of money if build 10 years later…Different cost.”. You are very smart, the Warren Buffet of kampung pinang. Let’s build another 2 airports, 10 hospitals, 3 stadiums, and a 4th & 5th link bridge, as building those later might incur higher cost.

Seriously, Penang need a 3rd bridge. Make sure don’t make the bridge too long just because want to make another record. That’s what we see on the 2nd bridge.

Don’t wait until you going to shit then only you are just too late looking for a washroom. A Penang with a Vision should look for a long term planning.

3rd bridge is good for Penang economy growth and good for the people’s not only islander or mainlander.

Mainlanders will always be second class ppl in Penang. The people living on the Island do not care two hoots about the mainland – ulu place

I really no eye see the Penang people’s. Very selfish. Acting like a high class people but the brain are 3rd class people. That’s why Penang 3rd bridge is to build for Penang 3rd class people. Penang people shame shame

@Penang3rdBridge

How come you are talking about 3rd bridge? What happened to the tunnel? We spent a huge amount of money for the contractor to do detail studies and design you know (the cost of one big piece of prime land to be exact)! Forget about tunnel now? Pay again for the studies and design of bridge? Another one two pieces of prime land? Wah…..contractor really huat ah!!!! another bungalow for you my buddy!

Just take a drive around mainland and you can see what I am trying to get across here

Island is the main tourist attraction and where all the happening things take place , but for future development to take place we cant only focus what we have now, what we have now on island is just what there is left and there is no more land to develop , even sea reclaimation already reach it maximun

The land price is higher for business also in island , you so call live in island people not notice you re eating the same brand of food and restaurant all the time ? Because business cant take place here , rental too expensive, only francais and expensive food can do business at island, those middle range business owner dont want to invest here

So are people going to pavillion kl to eat and shop? No they just go walk most of them , and eat food court . Most of the day in a week they go to cheaper place to eat or moderate price shopping mall like mid valley

The distribution need balance , maybe u from rich family i suppose live landed or supercondo in island but did not mean all people like that , most of the people are average joe and they choose what best for them

Wow so many comment , one thing i know is that beside plane , i always reach pg sentral at butterworth with bus and electric train , too bad island dont have the new electric train service because it is an island , here link until thailand and kl

If the airport is at mainland , and as many attraction as island ,i think the distribution will be more toward mainland as all transportation need pass here first

@Thailand forever
So?? U think only ma..hehe

CM Lim :
@SS Lim
I also agree with the article and SS Lim that the population of Penang is not that high to demand for a third bridge, or even LRT. The issue we face now is that not many willing to sacrifice and live far away from town (Georgetown & BM). As suggested, the state government should instead focus on distributing the population more evenly across the island and mainland. Perhaps lower the land assessment or even giving it away for free for those willing to stay in the suburbs? Also, to improve on our public transport system a.k.a. bus by designating a section of the road as bus/car pool land only during peak hours. Road users should also give way to buses whenever possible and not forcing them to get stuck in traffic with us. Perhaps we should give buses the same treatment we gave to ambulances/fire trucks? I believe people will use back the long forgotten bus services if they are punctual on their schedule. Penang would surely be a better place to live in, if all Penangites are willing to cooperate.

Finally some one is willing to propose a solution, but if you are going to propose such a PATHETIC, LAZY and HALF-HEARTED “solution”, you might as well continue to PRETEND that there are no problems at all with island and mainland conectivity right now. When I read your comically naive, unrealistic and fantasist “SOLUTIONS”, I really pray to god that Penang has others who are more capable of real vision and forward thinking for the future.

By the way, I have just got home after waiting 2 HOURS to get on a Ferry from island to mainland. Dad was driving, he is not in a good mood. I arrived at Swettenham at 6 PM and got on the ferry at 8 PM.

@CM Lim
Let’s say I live at Bagan Ajam, and I want to send my child to the pediatric ward at Adventist Hosp. Maybe it’s an emergency, Maybe the best specialist doctor is resident there.
Should we build ONE 3rd Bridge? Or would it be easier to build and staff another branch of Adventist Hosp. on the mainland?
Your problem is that your tiny, microscopic mind is trapped in it’s own little island world, that is why people like you are incapable of putting yourself in other peoples shoes, and prevents you from seeing things from other peoples perspectives, and makes you incapable of formulating REALISTIC SOLUTIONS to other peoples problems.

I own both property at island and mainland, is good to have a third bridge connecting both place…..when i work i live at island,but when weekend or holiday i will stay mainland ,the feeling just not same more peaceful and less crowded , one thing good about mainland is you can get a high class condo at price of a low cost unit at island, well both got it good and bad , island is convenience for it variety and mainland is good for it peaceful environment if we re to compare

If got money why not buy both and experience yourself

Third link is a must from my opinion for easy connectivity

High class condo where? Which one?

Condo high class at mainland maybe not but at least better than spider web box at island which cost 300k above for 700sf haha

@ck

I assume u never watch out property at mainland since u only focus island property

Check and see this website for mainland property and u will shocked how many they are , lower density and better facility , count per floor unit between them and you will know for property price between 300k to 500k , island is 2 to 3x more unit per floor for this price point , that is why car park is always not enough for apartment and condo in island , because people rent out their room to student and worker , 3 room for example already 3 car while the house got only 1 car park, you do the math how many people need park outside road ?

For the same price you can get better overall package in mainland and mostly more car park slot per unit too

land cost much more at island and its common sense sure got more limitation , i jv bought island for convenience stay after work, not really enjoying the environment cause i only bought normal apartment , so many illegal parking outside , cant even drive sometime need wait and wait especially during dinner time , call police to give summon aso not a good things to do always moreover the lift also need beratur sometime

Ecoworld, aspen, ,sunway, osk and many landed gated community township at mainland d

Many other developer also building nice condo eventhough they not that famous, take a visit then only judge , is not depend pure marketing or commercial only , am jv speak the truth

No matter what living on the island is way way better. The suggestion of a specialist hospital to be built on the mainland truly amuses me. Why are mainlanders always in a constant state of denial?

My opinion on islander prefer to stay in island:
1) Crime rate is higher eg house break in, robbing in mainland compare to island.
2) Traffic condition quite bad on 1st bridge during peak hour as most main lander use that.
3) Mainland is too quite for those who like to enjoy night life.
4) Island has better medical service be it government or private own.
5) Capital appreciation on property in island is very much better.

If the above issues being addressed and improve, then we can see more balance will occur. We will see the 3rd link and LRT to mainland whether will improve some of the issues mentioned above.

@Getha
seriously, what is good for you may not be good for others. Stop imposing your own opinions on others.

You sound like a snob. And you are.

You say island is better than mainland. and repeated this point over and over… WITHOUT any supporting statement.

SS Lim :
Actually, I do agree 3rd bridge is somewhat redundant. It’s the population density that need to be distributed more even throughout the state. Even though free toll sounds attractive, there’s other more significant concerns that needs to be address such as congestion, job opportunities, affordable home, un-developed mainland etc.

Another idiotic comment from a tiny, microscopic island brain that is completely out of touch with reality on the ground.
The population of the island and mainland does not need to be “DISTRIBUTED MORE EVEN THROUGHOUT THE STATE”. This is idiotic statement I have ever heard.
The population of Raja Uda and Bukit Mertajam is huge. Does your tiny brain believe the mainland is a giant empty space devoid of people and development?
Connectivity must be improved between the island and mainland, full stop. Build bridges or tunnels where the population is densest, not in a giant empty land like Batu Kawan.
How can your supposed objective of population distribution be achieved with the horrible and lopsided connectivity that we have currently?

SS Lim :
Actually, I do agree 3rd bridge is somewhat redundant. It’s the population density that need to be distributed more even throughout the state. Even though free toll sounds attractive, there’s other more significant concerns that needs to be address such as congestion, job opportunities, affordable home, un-developed mainland etc.

Another idiotic comment from a microscopic, tiny island brain that is completely out of touch with reality on the ground.
The population of the island and mainland does not need to be “DISTRIBUTED MORE EVEN THROUGHOUT THE STATE”. This is idiotic statement I have ever heard.
The population of Raja Uda and Bukit Mertajam is huge. Does your tiny brain believe the mainland is a giant empty space devoid of people and development?
Connectivity must be improved between the island and mainland, full stop. Build bridges or tunnels where the population is densest, not in a giant empty land like Batu Kawan.
How can your supposed objective of population distribution be achieved with the horrible and lopsided connectivity that we have currently?

@Ranee
In fact nobody denies the development of island since it is already the city status while BM,BW are still town status but we only particularly pointed out some losers and inferior folks that always defocus the topic of future development and visions in Penang and become their egoistic playground here..

Too bad my reply to handgan and Getha is still awaiting for moderation and hasn’t been posted since yesterday I replied to…else, you may read later if it is posted successfully for the HK example in development…this will happen to Penang, only the matter of time..must have visions..

@edisongan

@handgan
Haha..so cute of you like little boy…did I say mainlanders make more money so they are higher class or your pathetic & inferior buddy fellow named Getha from island thought that way..
Like I said,I won’t stereotype all islanders coz I have good cousins and aunt from there, as well as my nice colleagues and ex director..

I noticed in the forum,there is always someone like to de focus the topic while it is talking about future development of state..like other wise comments in here earlier on – we must have vision for future..

Take HK as example, at first only HK island obtained the status as ” city”, others were town or villages, then later on more population grew and development in Kowloon, Kowloon also obtained “city” status from town…and now up to date, even some towns like Tsuen Wan,Shatin & Yuen Long, they are also gradually becoming city status due to growth of population and development
From only one undersea tunnel become 4 tunnels.e.g 紅隧，東隧，西隧 and 大嶼山隧道 if I’m not wrong…why is it so?Because the whole HK are being urbanized …so why not Penang?
Now island had obtained “city” status and soon will more population, BW,BM,BK,SA will also gradually become city from town,agree?
HK now is even building their third runway…15years ago if you ask them,they will behave just like you and your Kawan Getha….

I cannot agree only if you take stadium as example because this doesn’t benefit majorities but for airport,school,hospital, aren’t they getting more and more?so you have slapped your own face…Simpang Ampat is going to have Columbia hospital & first international school on mainland there,Jit Sin also build their branch in Simpang Ampat, Beng Teck also set foot in BM..Besides KPJ already set foot in BM for years…even LGL has expanded their premises in order to accommodate more patients…Nam Wah is also considering to have their branch hospital in mainland so what make you think that they will not be more and more in future when the demand rises?As for bridge, aren’t we now discussing about the third bridge now while couple years ago we only had one bridge…only the matter of time..

So,let’s face to the truth and discuss with more open minded rather than vision less,egoistic & arrogant attitude like I said, unless you are really so so so great about yourself like top 10% of higher income in the state or holding incredibly high position in state with super intimate relationship with Royal people and etc…else, who are you here to comment and classify yourself as first class citizen and others are second? Unless you are the one who calls the shots where to develop and where not to,else,the development won’t stop by itself because you think living on island is higher class..really laugh me to death..

That’s why I was suggesting to Mr.Here to take it easy and relax..after reading and laughing, then have a nice sleep as we just read a good joke…

@lee

Thank you for your lengthy response.
I asked because you said high class earlier. ” high class condo at low cost price ”

There’s a fine line between high class and ‘ better package ‘.
That was my question…. nevermind.

Yes , If you re rich then island is better deal package , for example you can buy quay side condo at strait quay , infinity supercondo, the landmark by bsg , gurney paragon , and all the million homes , because they offer something mainland dont , however if we opt for condo below 600k which majority people are at this level then mainland is a better package ….

For 300k to 400k price point ,can only buy high dense affordable house which need to apply from penang government , almost like singapore HDB apartment , else old house which already obsolete

damn ppl talk about bridge not compare property, just build the bridge if u need just use, if not just stay at ur house dont come out use the bridge, if want compare property, better stay at austalia? singapore? only loser will stay at malaysia, bundle of loser.

Stay australia and singapore is winner d ? If stay at HDB like apartment still loser what

I support 3rdlink . It will alleviate traffic, on northern island distributing the load on first bridge now . connectivity spurs growth.Just like 2nd link spurs growth in southern mainland

Those who afraid more people will come to island because of third bridge or tunnel are really selfish. No offend.

@cincai
Agreed,also are visionless
In prai industrial park,there are up to 30% of islanders daily go and return for working purpose..those 30% not majority but surely can help alleviate the tension of use on first bridge..

If Kulim has successfully built their international airport, this will also help share workload of Penang airport coz I’m from BM, going there only 20 mins compared to going Penang airport takes 35 mins

@Lee
Bro..I can really feel your kind intention to share your good and useful opinion but there is minority of narrow-minded people won’t appreciate and understand one if they don’t remove their self ego and look at the overall future development in Penang..

this is not like Spore and JB, HK and Shenzhen,cross the bridge then income gap is double to triple..Islanders cross the bridge to mainland don’t make them richer but poorer if they don’t enlarge their vision to become Penang state-wide instead still island-wide…島民心態，井底之蛙。。

The fact is now mainland has more than 800k+ population compared to island 700k+ is already the good proof of trend that people now are more moving and staying on mainland due to development.e.g.job opportunities and cheaper property ..In near future, when population breaks through 1million on mainland,900k on island, eventually we Penangites still be the one to suffer from big congestion so building third bridge or tunnel is really good and helpful to people from Georgetown and Butterworth..

If possible and allowable, I hope to have more hospitals, schools, expressways & public transport system like LRT,buses,trams…make it state-wide..

I live at supercondo at tanjung bungah , i wish the 3rd bridge to be build so its easy for me to visit my relatives at raja uda every weekend, direct link from tanjung bungah to gurney drive to butterworth , no need drive from north to south just to cross the 1st bridge and go up north on mainland again

@John
Yeah..that’s the whole idea and ideal situation to help alleviate the usage and tension as population grows along in future

Like I shared before the idealized situation will be 3rd bridge or undersea tunnel majorly catered for Tanjong Bungah,Tokong,Gurney areas in Gerorgetown and Bagan,Raja Uda areas in Butterworth as far as S.Petani and Kepala Batas areas…

Meanwhile the first bridge is cater for BM, Prai, Gelugor, Relau as well as Bayan Baru ..2nd bridge is cater for Batu Mau, B.Kawan, Simpang Ampat, Bayan Lepas and Jawi areas

Isn’t that a great idea to live in Penang when that day comes…it benefit everyone when we can travel as we wish without spending much time to town or countryside because lesser traffic jam and more alternate ways to our destination.

Lately, there some noises from NGOs about the Penang Transport Master Plan and it also kindles some with political agenda to recount the “old issue” of third link（炒冷饭？）.

All in all, we Penangites could only care for what is beneficial to Penang and should ignore all the other jarring, noisy political maneuvers ! We should have better visions about our developments and I believe a third link is nevertheless essential and justified looking (just) 5 to 10 years down the road.

I totally AGREE with John. Give me 5!

@Penang
Give you 5 bananas ?

Now we are selling fruits is it? Give me five durians, Musang King please.

totally we need it to have future vision.
only the HK island already have three bridge one tunnel and 2 bridge.
it will help develope the mainland as well.
why not.????

I understand the feeling of those who stay island which is not 10% of the richest but stay normal condo , they scare with the building of the bridge , their life will be affected as development take place

But even the bridge not builded, affordable housing and low cost flat are enough to make ur existing neighbourhood a nightmare

So no need to struggle to object anything , u should pray more islander go mainland so that island less crowded if that is your concern haha

@Alex
Can you share me what is the meaning from you so called as normal condo? Can give a few example? Just sharing..

100% better on Island than ulu mainland

Getha :
100% better on Island than ulu mainland

NEEH NEEH NEEH Island Better BLAH BAH BLAH NEEAH NEEAH NEEAH Island Better BLAH BLAH BALH NEEEAH NAAEH NEEEH Island Better BLEH BLEH BLAH BLEH

@skynet

Normal condo mean normal condo, only got normal swimming pool, normal gym room and bbq pit ( some even dont have this ) and nothing else , high density and not enough car park , over 16 unit per floor

High end condo for example got panoramic viewing deck, infinity pool, landscape garden, sky gym, sky lounge , jacuzzi, sauna , changing room, aqua gym, media room, yoga room, entertainment room, aerobic room, reading room, kitchen facade , water feature , water theme park, bbq area, spa bed, steam bath, man made beach, sky garden, drop off area, lobby , waiting lounge , grand looking guard house , golf simulator , 360 roof top viewing , alfesco dining , dedicated car park lobby

Maybe you don stay high end condo before so you dont know but as you can see the differences is obvious , i dont want to say which condo is normal or which is high class so not to offend anyone

But you get the idea how much condo in island got at least 10 facility above and which got below 5 then you will know

To add in the list of some high end condo got outdoor fitness station , running track , bicycle track and water fountain too hehe

Some other got cabana, herb garden, sunken deck , windmill , light house, boat yatch , sun bed, in door library , concierge service, mini theater , aquarium and private lift dual key function

Mainland will never be better than the island. Mainland will lag at least 10 to 15 years behind if they are lucky

@getha

No one say mainland will be better than island bro , but people will live better there with nicer environment and maybe get higher end package at lower price

Just cross a bridge and they will have everything on island , is not like you need to be in island all the time and sleep at normal condo or affordable housing which contribute 90% of all property type

But yet everyone makes a beeline for the Island. The properties on the Island will appreciate very fast while mainland….hmmmmmm

Island Better NEEEH NEEEH BLAH BLAH Island Better NEEAH NEEAH BLEH BLEH Island Better BLAH BLEH BLAH NEEEH NEEEAH NEEEH hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@Alex
Sorry Alex. Thanks for your sharing as well. I can see you are refering to those highend condo with new design.. Then how about some old condo’s with abit low density? May 1 block 89 unit but no gym..or swimming pool.. But 1 unit currently price is more than 1M. I think is depend on location &market appreciation.. Not purely based on facility.. Just sharing. Tq

@Getha
Stop using my nickname !! Like I said so many times before, I would rather stay in my nice 2 room flat at Taman Hijau, Paya Terubong, then at the horrible inaccessible and ulu mainland…

Thats why you will always stay that way hahaha

@Danny
Just pay tribute and sympathy to sick and inferior people then wish him speedy recovery..
Most egoists ,supremacists,nacissists are out of inferiority…
So we should not condemn but walk away and wish them good luck…Quite pathetic already lah

Mainland will always be inferior to Island. Island is still the best!

Always avoid mainland properties. Buying mainland properties is sure to spell your downfall

Getha :
Always avoid mainland properties. Buying mainland properties is sure to spell your downfall

buy island properties, got value no buyer. haha

Getha :
Mainland will never be better than the island. Mainland will lag at least 10 to 15 years behind if they are lucky

yes, continue to stay within your coconut shell while we enjoying mainland huge houses

Penang Island propoerties will always appreciate. Mainland properties, like their owners, will be …….hmmm…(answer is very obvious). Take a drive around mainland and what do you see? Ha ha ha

Island property hard to sell even appreciate, the salary is not able to support a 500k property , not to mentioned those 500k above , then what is the point haha

Getha :
Penang Island propoerties will always appreciate. Mainland properties, like their owners, will be …….hmmm…(answer is very obvious). Take a drive around mainland and what do you see? Ha ha ha

I bought one unit at Aston Villa by Ivory in Bukit Mertajam when it was 350K during the CNY promo and everyone said I was nuts to buy at that price, now my “nuts” property has a valuation of 700K and very very few units on the market. So what is obvious? hmmmmmmmmmmmm

typo error ? u meant 530K ?

@Chicken_smell
530K for Aston Villa? Can you please reply me a link to this listing? I want to buy one for my daughter.

i thought you bought aston villa for 530K and not 350K … even this penangpropertytalk link says selling price was ~ 554k

Aston Villa: Terrace

Standard Lot Size : 24’ x 72’
Built Up Areas : 2,850 sq.ft.
Roof Terrace : 388 sq.ft.
Year of Completion : 2011
Unit Price : RM554,800 to RM718,800

now , asking prices are around 700k …..

@williamyl
Bro,HK island got three bridges and one tunnel meh?Thought it’s three tunnels linked to Kowloon which are 東隧，紅隧以及西隧 lah…Anyway, your intention is same as our great visioners…supporting third bridge or tunnel….

@Chicken_smell
Long time ago during one slow year, CNY promo for Aston Villa was 388K for intermediate , that was when I grabbed it, Only BM people will remember that time the selling price. Now Mudah don’t even have intermediate lot for sale.

@Chicken_smell

When a property is “asking” for 700k, most likely it can be transacted at 650k. From 500k to 650k (or even to 700k) for a property that was completed in 2011, I’d say the appreciation is very slow.

@edisongan
Bro we have same wide and long vision ….. :p
i just see from google map agak agak only……. hahaha
just think why HK island can build three link why we cannot…..
some more people is 3 tunnel why we only build one tunnel but so many objection really tak paham….
we are not the first in the world to build tunnel but many fake expertise come out say this say that….polution this broke environment etc so many expert….
who is the person objection is just want to objection thats all……
Another good example is XIAMEN our sister city…..
they even got 4 link – one tunnel three bridge…..

@BM Lang
@Chicken_smell
@Jazz
@Getha
We talk about the bridge or tunnel la hahha
anyhow once the bridge or tunnel build the surrounding price will increase immediately faster than you invest here and there……
Town will jam because everyone go to same road.
if the BM prai people(alor setar or perlis even bukit kayu hitam) wan go to gurney will go thru jetty or lim chong ewe highway this is why there is always jam…
if they can direct reach the gurney so jetty area and lim chong ewe highway will very fast see the improvement…..
but exclude peak season like raya or CNY etc…..
bcos the road only can fit 100 cars suddenly 1000cars coming mana mana pun jam same same

Aaah!!! 3rd bridge,while 2nd bridge is sleeping,try to work out things how to utilize the 2nd bridge which is already there.Use the allocated money to help our poor bro & sis to build up more low cost houses.Please see them happy,build shelter for them,most of them are without homes…renting sucks.Shelter is very important for them not third bridge just to make money out of this project

GOD WILL BLESS