Tree Sparina @ Ideal Vision Park
Tree Sparina, the phase 1 of Ideal Vision Park in by Ideal Property in Bayan Lepas, Penang. This project is strategically located along Jalan Tun Dr. Awang adopting ‘slow-city’ concept that promotes healthy living, environmentally friendly practices, preserving traditional trades and cuisine and, generally, an improved quality of life for residents.
Property Project : Tree Sparina
Location : Ideal Vision Park, Bayan Lepas, Penang
Property Type : Mixed Development
Land Tenure : Freehold
Built-up Area: 1,130 sq. ft. onwards
Developer : Ideal Property
Contact No.: +604-645 6888
Indicative Price : RM500 psf. onwards
@Ryan Ong
what’s your source of info? my source of info told me that the piece of land will be used to construct access road to connect to Jalan Sg Tiram 1.
@richard
Where did you get that info from?
What I got is just that piece of land is belong to the government.
are u referring to this???
http://www.epbt.gov.my/osc/Borang_info.cfm?ID=205616&NoForm=Form4
I went to the show house but sadly mostly sold with just a few units left. My own opinion the project location and design is good. Location is near to new chinese primary n sec schools, airport and with good road access. It looks like it will be a new township there once completed. You should visit the showhouse to personally judge the project.
@richard
The info I got about mosque is from MPPP…. checked with planning and development unit
It’s confirmed, they are required to build a Mosque on that piece of Land.
For any further information, you guys can call to Komtar @ 04-2592020
@Tao
So this is your so called act la. Lol.
@Ryan Ong
MPPP said Setia Greens there got new mosque is it?
If this is true, it is not fair to the buyers that the developer only disclose the new schools but not the mosque. Later the buyers will be caught in surprise.
It’s confirmed that There will be a mosque which is not disclosed by the Developer for this Project
just checked with the sales office, they said the finishing for the flooring is 1″ x 1″ (Small size tiles)
wonder is it worth to buy?
@Tao I get the infor that there will be 2″x2″ except toilet and kitchen
Fast fast buy lah, later the price will “shoot” up to “1000psf” as someone said.. lol
Hi All,
From all the feedbacks on this projects, it seems that there are alot of negative thoughts over this property. Any buyers here mind sharing your personal opinion why this project worth buying? There is no right or wrong, I just want to know from any buyers. Thanks.
@Bryant
I wish to know too, genuine information and thoughts from buyers/investors to share constructive opinions on this property.
For me, personally I feel that the location is unique and good. Near airport has its own pros and cons. If Ideal lived up to their words that there will be schools, hotel, park, then I feel that location wise Tree Sparina is very attractive. Given that it is the 1st phase, there is room for its property price to grow since market price will increase after the remaining phases of IVP are launched.
I have actually booked a unit, but I am not an early VVIP-er, so I did not get to pick and choose “beautiful” units. And I also have a concern with the empty land beside Tower 3 and I’d like to know what will be built there. Based on the discussion above, a mosque will be built there. I dont know how true. And yes, it is not fair if Ideal disclosed information that is beneficial to them only e.g. schools, hotels.
Anyone else care to join in and provide CONCRETE opinions, and not some childish ones? ^^
1in x 1in tiles? Must be first in the world. Thank you for the joke. lol..
Yalor, buy buy buy before the price up till 1500psf, don’t miss up this good opportunities. Don’t regret after 3 years later. Better buy that be sorry. Go Go Go !!!
My opinion is buy this project as soon as possible which 1945 units will be sold out very soon.
grab your opportunity to buy before the price increase to 2,000 per sq ft because the demand in that area is very good!!! whole bayan lepas area until relau got limited units for subsale, demand very good. Rental demand very high! can rent up to 1500-2000 per month for (factory foreigners/permitted bangladeshi)
After that sorry to all non muslim but they will receive a morning call at a very early time so everyone won’t be late to work/school
best deal in Penang!
Hahaha.. what a jokes! LMC outlook design really suit to Bangladesh hostel! Good one!
yeah, will bring up the penang economy as well.. maybe soon will be introducing another block starting price from rm600 and above.. good buy
i dont think the bangla population is that high yet on penang island.. Vietnamese and Myanmar yes..
Not sure bangladeshi, vietnamese or Myanmar, either one or 3 of them together. but these people in need of luxury shelters and they are willing to pay you good rent if you do not mind to let few of them to share a house.
sooner or later, they will have to stay under RM2,000 per sq ft shelter which doesn’t mind any surrounding noise at all
Any word to describe sarcastic + desperate? Really want to know. Hahaha.
Welcome to “Banglasia”. lol..
i think they prefer landed, can contain more headcount.. and most likely the new condo management will restrict the rental to foreigner.
Once the place is allocated for a mosque, there is not much we can do to change it… I checked with MPPP this morning and it seems it is true
To be fair, such MEGA PROJECT(high density) must allocate “Lain-lain ibadat” for the residences there. Surau itself is not enough as this project is too MEGA(high density), so they are required to build a mosque. Of course the sales will not tell you lah, if not how are they going to visualize the RM2,000 per sq ft after O.C.’s dream?
One more pros to share for this project
“All residences are able to enjoy FREE ALARM CLOCK every morning to prevent late to work/school/missed flight”
@Philip Lim
I checked mins ago. Not masjid la. It is a church. You might want to call them to get more details.
hahahahahahahaha, we’ve called and confirmed it’s a Masjid and you said it’s a Church? how funny is that and since when in Malaysia, developers are required to build Church as “lain-lain ibadat”???
you’re so funny!
Thank you all for your thoughts. Anymore positive opinions from all buyers on why this project is a good buy? Appreciate it.
ok ma, airplane sound plus morning call, re-freshing..still market value will going up
I always have problem waking up in the morning for work and my kid always cannot wake up for school early in the morning, this place is the best place, got free airplane and mosque alarm. The best property I must own.
You are quite entertaining as well. keep it up. lol..
ya haha funny….but seriously can someone really really do something about it? Property price everywhere is not coming down, new projects price keep increasing, units getting smaller….
At south west, this is the place to look for, though it is not the best. If you have budget of 600K+, my suggestion is to go for the Reflection nearby. That condo looked classy and completed. It is also not far from the new Heng Ee schools.
This project, if success, it is like a self sustain township. But it still need maybe a decade to achieve that.
Bad things, other than the mosque, this area actually somehow trapped between the key amenities. 3 access to Bayan Baru, but each has it own traffic problem during the rush hours. To the 2nd bridge, still need to route to Bayan Lepas, Permatang Damar Laut, or use the small road beside Robert Bosch. To go to town, it is a long journey. So, if the commercial lots in this area not doing well, it will be a problem for daily life.
If you want a new project, OI still a better choice for me. Or you may look for someone who already start selling The Golden Triangle, still in 500K+ price range and to be completed by 2014.
I think seriously talking… landed properties should be the best bet…. I see too many condos all around….if you can afford it… get a landed three storey house which will be in great demand in the near future
Go for subsales units and you can get bigger with cheaper units. Just that you may need to pay more cash upfront.
@Hemsley
Thank you.. Do you know what is the package offered for Tree Sparina?
Anymore buyers with personal opinions on the advantages/pros of this project?
I bought an unit,personally like the place.I’m not fr penang,need to travel back always.Its location strategic to me to reach airport,for parents to come with flight as well,&parents can get public transport to town or anywhere in case I m working.Schools nearby is a privilege too.
Salesgirl did tell me there’s a surau before decided to buy.Since I’m not buying tower 3,plus it’s high floor,I’m ok with it.
Dont know why not really like Sungai Ara area.Plus if I’m buying a subsale rm450k right now,I need round rm60k for agent fees,legal fees,stamp duty,&10%downpayment.Instead of second hand,may as well go for new launch.
This is just my opinion.Anyhow,I do hope Ideal can really make this project a success!
They are giving early bird promotion 10% off. Not sure if offer still available though.@Bryant
It’s not the best but should be ok.
– location: not bad. Although it’s not that near bridge, town, etc, it’s Surrounded by all main roads. No small lanes through kampung.
– 1st phase. Should make $$$.
– good dibs scheme. Even if price increase 10%, with only 10% down payment, you’ll be making 100% profit
– near schools, etc…
– layout is good
– ideal’s pricing is mostly reasonable
– however, if you are an investor with limited bullets, then you may have to think of opportunity cost. Ie, if you buy this one, your funds will be locked in for at least 3 years
That’s my 2 cents’ worth
I would like to ask opinions to the following questions:
1. Is afternoon sun (indirect) a huge factor to be considered by sub-sales buyers?
2. If the unit is near to the lift, do you think that it will be disliked by sub-sales buyers?
Any buyers/investors that would share some opinions? Thank you.
Just curious is it ‘surau’ or ‘masjid’ to be built at the site? If ‘masjid’, there is already an existing one located 0.6km from the site.
Seriously this project is a good buy, don’t think, just buy.
Because last night during i sleep and I had a dream, a man from the future told me this project will reach RM2,000 per sq ft, it’s definitely a good buy. and I was told there will be a very good demand of tenants wanted to rent off my units too
Must give you golden globe award d. Better than Les Miserable. hahaha..
Yes that’s right. U can always dreaming as it will shoot up to 2Kpsf
@Jacqueline
@Taoist
@S1
Thank you… I think the 10% rebate and DIBS is a real attractive factor plus the location.
I definitely agree with the proximity of convenience to the airport though the sound of the plane might be deafening.
With 5 phases of launches, the first phase would make the most profit in the subsale market in future. If it does sell at 2000psf in future, I personally hope that malaysians will be paid higher to counter inflasion.
Despite the design of the building looks alike LMC, I think the developer knows very well about this matter. I trust there will be something extras to compliment the entire development and be successful and perhaps looks better.
If mosque is a concern, then avoid Blk 3, avoid units facing towards the directions to minimize the level of sounds.
Overall, it is always exciting to see how new projects will grow and develop into a new exciting places. Good Luck to all buyers!
If I am a subsales buyer, yes, I will not choose a unit with afternoon sun.
Whether is close to lift, it is subjective, but I prefer more privacy unit.
@Bryant
About the outlook, if you look carefully in details, it is not that bad. Just the graphic instead of make it more attractive, do the other way. Btw, there is a model at the sales office and those having concern about the outlook, may go to have an idea.
Previously, I thought the D’ Piazza will be very bad outlook also, but end up better than my expectation after it completed. This one definitely will be better than D’ Piazza.
I think the outlook is very attractive, I do not know why.
I like the Design of LMC in butterworth which is comes in 2 tone, simple and straightforward. Same goes to this Project’s facade, so I’m giving this project a 2 thumbs up for the outlook.
Despite the finishing, if the windows come with naco louvre windows would be my perfect ideal home
To those who dreaming that it will shoot up to 1K or 2K psf, just a simple question to ask, why ideal group & sp setia recently launch so many projects in such a short time especially in south west distinct? Why? Hints: if u hold some share in your hand, if u foresee it will increase 100% or 200% soon, will u sell it or hold it?
@Monkeyman
IF I could foresee toto results coming saturday, IF I could make my way to the toto shop, IF I have RM1 in my pocket, IF I could make the purchase exactly according to the forseen results, then I would be rich.
To answer your question, probably ONLY the CEO of IDEAL and SP SETIA can answer you IF they might be able to FORESEE their shares or profit shoot up high, which of course within their control.
Tree Sparina, a RM350million freehold high-rise condo project in Bayan Lepas is set for its launch next month.
Developed by Penang-based Ideal Property Group, the condo is the first phase of its 10ha Ideal Vision Park mixed development. This early, the residential phase has already received positive response with about 1,000 registrations in a month, said Datuk Alex Ooi, Founder and Executive Chairman at Ideal Property.
“The Tree Sparina would be launched next month while the garden and bicycle park are likely to be completed in December this year,” he added.
The 548-unit project will integrate green and spa features that are based from a concept by Cittaslow movement, which promotes slow city living.
Construction work for the first phase is set to be completed in three years, while four more years are needed to complete the entire Ideal Vision Park project, said Ooi. With a gross development value of RM2 billion, the entire project comprises commercial and trade areas, residential units and recreation facilities.
Ideal Vision Park will feature around 1,945 condo units, making it the biggest project providing affordable houses for Penangites. Notably, prices for the units will start from RM400,000 to RM700,000, while sizes will range between 800 sq ft and 1,650 sq ft.
Aside from the residential component, Ideal Vision Park will also offer 500,000 sq ft of commercial space, including three blocks of office towers and 195 shop lot units.
Wow, 195 shop lots, seems like the price will reach RM3k per sq ft.
Very nice affordable houses starts from 400k/800 sq ft
Next week will reach RM 5K sq./ft.
yes nonsense, no need to wait next week, sleep early tonight, it will happen later… lol
@Hemsley I think the brochure was not updated to follow the actual outlook design of the model house. It does look like higher end condo. D’piazza is smack in the middle of the booming township, combining with its residential title, this property has great substance value.
Already pre-launch? Knowing my friend is going to queue for booking an unit. How many days need to queue ahead? 1 week ahead? Hope the developer can prepare some chair and tents for those early birds. I am still under consideration, seems RM500psf quite attractive in current market.
1000 registration received in just a month! Let’s take 20% are serious buyers, will have 200 buyers out there and the queue can be very significant and all good units (or early birds package) would be taken up on the first day launch.
No you are wrong, there will be more than 1500 people and 80% of people will be queuing for the unit,
after 300 units sold, price up 20% become Rm600 per sq ft on the spot for the 200 units
then make money instant Rm100 per sq ft
the project didn’t fly
No need to q-up. You can walk-in the sales office anytime now. But the small and good units all booked. This developer only sell to their VVIP, VIP and existing customer during pre-launch or soft launch. News like open for booking is only goes to those ppl. But first time buyer still can walk-in and book, if you know the time.
@Hemsley
Nowadays those VVIP, VIP and existing customers just call in to book by looking at the brochure and also info from the sales staff. And from what i know they have a very long list of VVIPs, VIPs and existing customers. Only balance units for their first time customer like me to queue.
Grow up, boys, grow up…
Why so many sarcastic comments are flooding the blog.
It’s shameful for Penangites when we’ve just proven ourselves to the Nation on our political maturity during the last election.
Constructive comments are welcome, but not the sarcastic ones.
Agreed??
@元肖日
Refer comment guidelines below:
Avoid Political Discussion
Seriously I think this project not bad, and the concept (Bicycle Garden) which is new and to be the first in Penang.
Yes. With LMC apartment outlook design but selling at Condo price also first in Penang. Lol
Nowadays, LMC also reach RM400 per sq ft.
This is condominium bear in mind, it has Condominium Facilities
@元肖日
Yeah, no more sarcastic comments, we should learn the maturity of Hong Kong ppl in buying and investing in properties!
Any idea usually when dev will release the bumi lots? It seemed smaller units almost sold out..balance few units either facing not so good direction or pending loan confirmation. Hopefully can queue for those bumi lots.
You can Q for …… One imperial sounds familiar?, there are in the pipe line:
(1) Two Imperial
(2) Three Imperial
(3) Four Imperial
Density? More or less like One Imperial ( 700 units) .
So, plus other projects, I lost count how many condos will be available.
I plan to put a grill shop, I mean at least you guys need simple grill if no full Reno.
Reported in The Edge.
my fren said the developer told her ideal vision park units are only for those existing ideal customer who had bought ideal’s previous project…. is that true?
@pengemis
No. If you have the money and you know the VIP launch day. Just walk-in with your cheque. It will be stupid if they don’t allow you to buy. Same goes to any developer.
@Low Thanks for the info. I prefer the vision park location. i feel is better and the bicycle garden concept is unique.
I suggest to check with Ideal frequently, must get a contact of sales. Also, you may look into Fiera Vista bumi lot which will be released after ~60% contraction completed.
Hello,
On the master map, there will be shopping center around Vision Park. Anyone know the vendor name (eg Tesco, Jusco and etc?)?. Someone please say Ikea… hehe…
And there will be hotel also across Tun Dr Awang. Anyone know the hotel name?
@kotun
I don’t think there will be another Tesco, Jusco, or Ikea coming here. Maybe Sunshine Square relocation or a new tenant name. Can’t comment too much as well. Give it another 10 yrs only we can judge.
Schools are the good ones!
Hi all, can i confirm which floor does the unit starts from? And is 5th floor is a floor above he facility floor?
Went to showroom and all units were sold out. Overwhelming response!
By Penang Island standard, consider slow already. Hard sell.
One project at Bayan Mutiara, on 1st day launching, 2 blocks at about 400 units sold out.
Take numbers! like waiting at Government hospital to take medicine, you know. LOL, i myself laugh when i recollect the situation.
Then, saw people quarrel, pushing around, desperate to grab whatever unit available.
When your number is called, inside, people just buy without even know where is the toilet, layout, etc. I mean, just joking, if without toilet one, the purchaser also dont know. Because, the stickers just stick very fast!!
Auntie write cheque like buying vegetables! most “scary” property buying experience…
Does DIBS benefit buyers?
Close to five years now, a majority of developers have been offering DIBS for different types of projects landed, condominiums and serviced apartments irrespective of pricing.
While these financing schemes may seem an easy route to own a property, buyers who opt for a DIBS package may really need to consider if they want to take this route in order to own a property.
The issue of DIBS is brought up once again because according to a developer who declined to be quoted, DIBS packages are not in favour of the buyer.
“DIBS packages effectively push up the selling price by between 5% and 15%,” he says.
A property consultant who declined to be named says there is a difference of as high as between 20% and 25% for a DIBS and a non-DIBS package.
“On a per sq ft basis, the current market value for a property may be RM300 per sq ft. Because the developer is offering a DIBS package, somebody has to fork out the interest. So instead of selling the house at market value of RM300, he ups it by 20% and sells it at RM360 per sq ft.
“The buyer is, therefore, paying future prices today. The prevalent attitude today is, in the event prices do not reach RM360 per sq ft, he will forgo the commitment. But he is still committed to the loan. If he does not pay, the bank will take action to auction off the property. But let’s assume he decides to keep the property, the DIBS package is still not in his favour because if the price does not reach RM360 per sq ft – that being the price he paid on a per sq foot under DIBS – the buyer will have to top up the balance,” the consultant says.
(Beware of greedy and unscrupulous developers and agents …… )
Hey. Anyone there noticed there is bumi promo price stated on the offer to purchase form. Does it mean the unit belongs to bumi lot if the field is filled up instead of list price field?
Penang no bumi lot, but just bumi price.
@Ah_Dog
i have never been a supporter of DIBS, only cause unhealthy speculation, plus up the price. There is no free lunch …
But what to do, gov does not intercept, and let it goes on and on …
At least make the DIBS with conditions (e.g. only for 1st time buyer)
“DIBS” is an alternative for the “build then sell” concept.
Don’t you think so?
@Jimmy I think Bumi lot means it is only for bumi buyer.
Good news … !
Bank Negara said mulling curbs on DIBS
Bank Negara is studying the risks arising from the developer interest-bearing scheme (DIBS) with a view of potentially imposing curbs on it, sources said.
@Ken
I don’t think its a good news for consumers. DIBS is actually a scheme to fight the abandon project. Now, bank negara is helping the developer or consumer?? If no DIBS, consumer will fully bear the risk during construction phase. Touch wood, if the project abandoned then you will have to pay the bank interest forever….. Unless Bank Negara impose the rule that “completed only sell” again, which I think the property price will even go much more higher due to only big developer can do so, they monopoly the market, who cares…Also this regulation will kill a lot of small developer and crash the economy in this field. If this happens, all the construction indon jobless, no income, then what can they do? So…is that really a good news??
@yoyo
you are wrong..
1. under DIBS, buyers still need to pay the interest + principal if project been abandoned. Developer already runway, you think they still bear the interest for you, somemore DIBS is not legally stamped.
2. under DIBS, small developers need to have more capital/more loan from bank to pay for the progressive interest. How can DIBS help small small developers? Your point no logic at all.
@skateboard
1. I am not sure is it legally stamped. However there is a legal channel to go for as long as buyer signed anything with developer which stated “DIBS”
2. Just ask yourself, with DIBS, usually what is the take up rate of the project? It sells very fast right? Unless you do not agree….Once the property is sold, SNP signed then the small small developer is no longer worry about the money anymore, they get progressive payment from the bank…In fact it helps the small small developer to grow bigger…. Just worry the project cannot sell only…
@yoyo
1. DIBS usually only been stated in the booking slip. If developers runway & abandon the project, you think bank will consider that non-legal-binding booking slip and not go after you to pay the interest + principal. haha..
2. so you also know the good take up rate is because of the DIBS attract flipper, and not real demand or attractive project concept/quality. Yeah we did see a lot of no-name developers coming up with LMC-like designed apartments, and bunch of greedy flippers which pay the “future price” and still hope for handsome returns like few years ago when the property price is only ~RM200psf…
Speculators are always in the market. But we’ve to admit that DIBS invites MORE speculators since the upfront capital is low.
More speculators means market will be saturated, hence creating bubbles.
I support doing away with DIBS.
@skateboard
please view things from a genuine buyer and an honest small small developer point of view , you will get my point.
@yoyo
It is very simple:
DIBS – attract lots of speculators with hope to flip
No DIBS – solely compete on price, location, design, serious consideration before buy because of commitment on progressive loan interest
@skateboard
DIBS maintain while RPGT increase 100% for within 10 years (counting only after OC). How about this ? I think speculators will run away as well.
@ezalor
I totally agree. DIBS maintain, RPGT increase 1000% pun tak kisah…..
small unit want to let go…
Which small unit? Level and unit?
@Mi
Which unit are you letting go? Email me at anarchyze@yahoo.com
Level 23, unit 6
Was informed by some reliable source that phase 2 going to be launched in 1-2 months time with price tag of 550 sqft. Anyone can confirm this? Ideal can confirm this?
Mi, how much?
Email me too linalim62@gmail.com
I have a 1100 sq (small unit) to let go, lower floor (hence cheaper :-)), balcony facing pool, corner unit. none of the windows face west…Suitable for own stay buyer
interested pls email me at sean @ bizwave.biz
thanks.
Very carton… With that, then the entire economy will be gone.
@joaQuin
Hi Mi, I am interested in your unit. Kindly email xingtu_2000@yahoo.com
Thanks.
Hi Mi, do email me at danielong1982@yahoo.com thx
@sean I was told the unit is not transferable. Sean, are you Ideal saleperson or a housing agent?
Hi everyone. I’m new in property hunting n hv no experience at all.I brought my apartment 15yrs ago n currently staying.I wish to change for a bigger unit 1300+ to 1600+sq ft for own stay. Need u guys expertise n advise. I’m interested in Tree Sparina,Fiera Vista, Reflection n Setia Sky Vista or any new projects in Bayan Lepas,Sg Ara n Relau area. I’m more favor in Fiera Vista Block 3. Can anyone pls help to advise. Thank you. My email jutanlh@gmail.com
Hi, sorry unit already taken…
@sean
hi.. email me hongteck88@yahoo.com
I was surprised by the scale of this company’s projects…they have huge landbanks and many projects coming. I think they should be one of the biggest developers in Penang?
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/property/241572-ideal-property-positive-about-southwest-penang.html
@Surprise
Still small if compared to PWC.. but after land sold by Ivory, hard to tell.
@Julie
It depends on your needs and budget..
Reflection – Pros: OC obtained, good quality & nice landscaping. No gangster contractor. Cons: internal corridor design like flats, a long corridor with 10+ units and less privacy.
Fiera Vista: Pros: nice layout & location, all units >1400sqf. OC expected within 2 years. Cons: reputation of developer on quality, gangster contractors usually exist per past record.
Tree Sparina: pros: near to “proposed” schools. Cons: same as FV. and Building outlook like LMC.
Setia Sky Vista: Pros: quality assurance by SP Setia. Cons: high density and situated at area full of LMCs. Traffic problem.
Hope this help.
@ John,
Sure or not no gangster contractor. Do your homework first.
@John Do you know as a fact or based on what other ppl tell you and then you form your own opinion? I have personally seen FV / TS developer’s other projects…because i have relatives staying their older projects. They are satisfied with the quality. Anyway I feel every project also got some ppl complain one…cannot satisfy everyone.
anyone know when the S&P will be signed?I made the booking in May and now already in end of july, still no news from the developer.
S&P to be signed only in Dec 2013. Now Ideal is waiting for the advertising permit, which is expected to be issued in August 2013. Tree Sparina is definately a good buy….so be paitient.
I just heard of this project not long ago, but I had been touring around that area. The location I not bad, and with that price of RM500 psf it is consider very reasonable. However, the concern would be the congestion around that area with buildings coming up, and 2 mosques in very near vicinity, ( one that is near to Sunshine Square ) and with all other development around + schools ( 3 schools ), Not sure If anyone had seen the congestion around schools during early morning and 6pm ? All I can say is convenient of the location is good but then you may get suck in traffic whenever you are coming out or going back. If you do not mind the congestion, the noise level ( 1900+ units ) and the surrounding ( lunch time it is always packed ), then this could be a good buy. Just my 2 cents of opinion to share.
@Kane
In general:
Convenient = Noise + Congested
Peace + No traffic = Inconvenient
@Hemsley
Well yes in general, that rule can be applied. But still if put in some effort, there are good locations that can have conveniences + quiet + peace.
On top of that the noise within the locality of the condo itself still an unknown fact, imagine >1900 units in the piece of land and the engine noise in the morning when everyone going out to work.
Just to share my opinion and to provide some points for considerations.
@Kane
This place can’t be more congested than Tanjung Tokong and Gurney Drive. Are Balik Pulau and Teluk Kumbar considered convenient to you? These are the only locations that I think might meet your description of convenient + quiet + peace + not congested.
@Kane
Don only look the # 1900 units. Look at the land size. Other places may hv projects with 5 projects with the same size of land. If not, the condo must be luxury one.
What level of convenient u r looking for? Some may consider near to hypermarkets and shopping center. If u only looking for 7-11, sure u can get what u want.
If now still hv places that convenient (near hypermarkets and schools) and still quiet and peaceful, those places will soon become noisy and congested. My point is, those factors u r looking for are not a permanent one.
Hi, i got one unit to let go.. tower 1 high floor corner unit.
Anyone interested please email me.
lcming82@hotmail.com
thanks..
U only can release back to developer la, snp not even signed yet already wan to greedy to earn ?
@Crime
LOL for those flippers…
btw.. big mosque beside tower 3… good luck
i think it is better than the month long “7th month festival” with super loud concerts daily throughout the night.
@skateboard
You must be dreaming when u sd property prices is at RM200psf few yrs ago. I had my Summer PLace entry price of RM300 in 2009, your RM200 must be 10 yrs back. You dont even know what are u talking about, check your facts before u speak out.
I have one unit to let go at tower 1, corner 1300sqft. PM me if you interested.
subsale market in penang is in a deep shit…. so if you are buying to flip… think carefully…
check with bankers and agent.. over the last 6 months.. we have too many supply than demands.. ..
Subsale property in Penang not maintainance properly, the building look terrible from outside, not many ppl in penang want to buy this type of property which selling too expensive, me personnelly visit place like N Park, sinar bukit dumbar, so on which selling from 280k to 330k, affordable but not go place to live.
how much you intend to sell?
May I know how much per unit ?
Anyone has a unit of tree sparina tower 1 that facing pool? Is there an intention to let go?
@funny
High density apartment or condo is very difficult to maintain, with the inflation of cost of maintenance, it is even challenging. Somemore now some condos come with a lot of facilities like basketball court, tennis court, bar counter, etc. The first few years still OK, but after that, those facilities will be abandon, a lot of examples. The cost to rebuild or repair is very very expensive, and management body mostly already faced financial deficit. When ask for increase in maintenance fees, lot of objection, and more and more refuse to pay. New rule is needed to govern this issues.
@home if you interested pm me your email
allenyeap@ymail.com
@home ady email you. check!
confirmed Ideal( the developer) contributed a piece of land for Surau at the back of tower 3.
@vision,
I am interested in your unit. Please email me fengshui1618@gmail.com. Thanks
@transparent
You confirmed with the Ideal salesperson? The Ideal salesperson told you or when you asked about it then only they tell?
This is not a comfortable news, and it is not very nice of Ideal to not disclose this information in the brochures/model.
@jaoQuin
When i asked, they confirmed it is true.
Many still purchased tower 3 coz got good view…i guess you get some u lose some.
@vision
Still available?Mail me at lovely_lane@hotmail.com
I have one unit at tower 2 facing the pool to let go. Please email me xingtu_2000@yahoo.com if you are interested.
FYI, bank in of deposit cheque will be on this Thursday.
@vision
Interested to your unit. Pls mail me at KateKWilliams@allabouthealthylife.com, thanks!!!
@Opinion
You are a freaking idiot for spreading lies!
I wish that they are allowed to perform daily for a month at the same location. Good food, free entertainment. We fun-loving peaceful locals love that! I bet extremists like you want to ban our traditions & unique cultures!
I have one unit 1,000 sf to let go. Airport/City view.
You can have it for a 5K fee!
I am very interested. Please email at johnL386@gmail.com!
@greener
RM5,000 only!
You are fair unlike some of the greedy sellers here.
@nikko wow….pay 10K deposit then sell for 15K? Can we really do this? I might just be interested to join this scheme.
I have one unit 1,000 sf to let go. Pool view 8-8
@Eujinenia
How much you will let go? Nice number also 8-8..
@Eujinenia
I interested. Can u mail me at lovely_lane@hotmail.com
Raja appanah @ Eugene : if interesting for the propety can email me …. My email address is eujinenia1988@hotmail.com
@Eujinenia
i am interested, please email me: ssbfcuk@gmail.com
@Eujinenia
i am interested, please email me: lewsp85@hotmail.com. Thank you.
@Eujinenia
i am interested, please email me: lewsp85@hotmail.com. Thank you.
@greener
I am interested. please email me @ ssbfcuk@gmail.com
Hi all, I am interested to get a unit high floor facing swimming pool, anyone would like to let go, please email me at ssbfcuk@gmail.com.
Thanks.
i m interested too, pls email gaikpheng@yahoo.com
Hi all, i have one 1100sqft unit to let go. High floor facing swimming pool. pls email chinhangkee@hotmail.com if interested.
R u fr developer?As I know , u r not allow to do that. If u dun want to purchase that unit u must return back to developer.
Ideal developer dont allow to change name la, so u have to return the unit back to them. New buyer can buy from ideal without a single fee.
@Brayan Soo
Yes, those who paid better get back your money from the seller. Don’t get cheated. The developer will not entertain name transfer at all. You can only return the unit
The empty land beside tower 3, is it gonna be a mosque or a surau? It makes a big difference. Can anyone confirm?
i checked with MPPP and IDEAL, it is a surau
Anyone buyer has heard anything from developer regarding progress, when will S&P be ready etc?
se
S&P will be signed in early nov..
now they get the buyers to get the loan approved, those who accept the loan by 1 oct will get two free air-con.
what is the latest selling price psf now? All sold out on all blocks?
Can someone let me know the price for this ?
only remain 1300 sq ft.
u can call ideal to check +604-645 6888
when will 2nd phase launch?
My friend and i just got a 1100sqft unit last week. Just give name to Ideal sales and they will contact you whenever ppl drop. Last 2 day i saw still have 1 unit.
1 units tower2 – mid Floor, facing bridge to let go.
kwooi1984@gmail.com
Loan rejected?
@penangkia
Pm
househouse947@yahoo.com
@Bryant
Every project in penang sure ppl condemn. Try to click other project and see.
I have a unit to let go with a fee. 5th floor, tower 1, facing pool. Email heng4374@yahoo.com if you are interested.
Like others had mentioned here, no name transfer instead buyer need to return the unit to developer if they don’t want that unit, this is what developer told me when I am purchasing a unit.
@hang tuah
I got 4 units, plan to let go 2. One already taken up. Left the last one only.
@Penangkia
i am interested. price? pls email the detail. wongaichin@gmail.com
Those project at Sg Ara like Imperial, Iconic Sky, Sierra Residences, Tree Sparina is not worth for investment. These are consider as secondary location of tons of massive condos coming up. Most of it with “condo alone”! In figures of 20,000 unit, which mean population increase to 60,000. Question: Where to find extra 60,000 people in three years time? How the traffic jam with over 60,000 population at these area? Another concern is most of it do not have supporting accesibility and traffic jam congestion.
Appreciate if any investor/developer could share your valuable comment to debate on the above statement
This newly launched property less than 3 years already in subsale market, after the 30% tax implementation, dont think any owner want to let go the unit. Will see newly launch one will be less in sub sale market.
abt traffic congestion, everywhere is the same. Pg scarcity of land ( island ), you like it or not, the price will go up. Current ruling probably have some impacts but it is only short term only.
Another 36 mths, please check the price again.
Yes, everywhere in Penang is congested but the difference is certain
places it takes 5 to 15 mins to get to your destination whereas some
places you need an hour or more.
based on record,penang house price never failed you. all places congested. if you need good place, you got to place for the price.
@LOLGIRL For every person who thinks like you, there is another who thinks otherwise. So it kind of evens out..most important you must be strong in $$$.
@LOLGIRL
Yes, traffic and buildings congestion location.
New project launched by Ideal–> Solaria Residences. ..
where is this Solaria ? Phase 2 next to Tree Sparina?
Next to Fiera Vista or opposite of Tree Sparina.
I have a unit facing adult pool, unit number 8 ( a few floors above the pool level ) , 1300 sqf letting it go.. genuine buyer may consider. E-mail me @ koayshigang@yahoo.com.
@Congested
If a place totally not congested then no one interested.
What to look for when buying new property ? This is the most important
criteria. Search no more.
1300 sqft high floor facing pool to let go.
whoever interested please drop me an email.
lcming82@hotmail.com
Any showroom ?